/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[04-23] Mr. Friendly alpha release, turns Doom into "an Animal Crossing-like nonviolent social space"
https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly

[04-22] Anon mod release: CLANG.wad, replaces every sound with CLANG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x4k2bxhorxb4vyo/CLANG.wad?dl=1

[04-22] Anon map release: roomv4.wad
http://www.mediafire.com/file/f3xu3bifrox8mb2/roomv4.zip (original)
https://my.mixtape.moe/ylyuxt.wad (update)
https://my.mixtape.moe/aaczhx.wad (another update)

[04-22] Anon map release: no title given, forest/cave map
https://my.mixtape.moe/abvwgx.wad

[04-21] Touhou Doom Episode 3.5 Re-Release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=57817

[04-21] Rumors of a new Doom movie
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100434-another-doom-movie-being-made/

[04-19] Anon's hack of Terminus's Doombike mod
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4718315/#4722307
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=00088901197544308135

[04-19] Doom 2016 OST coming to vinyl
https://twitter.com/DOOM/status/986590166637842432

[04-17] Anon release: Firstmap.wad
http://www.mediafire.com/file/kiu1aq9kqr81zas/Firstmap.wad

[04-17] Trailblazer update 1.4c released, mostly bug fixes
https://pillowblaster.tumblr.com/post/172994870631/trailblazer-14c-update

[04-16] La Tailor Girl 1.52 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1050351#p1050351

[04-16] Booster public test build #2
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1G-Xg0dc8OOwkhq1AHKs2w7wpz-IRB3hD

[04-15] Patch to remove demon runes from D4T
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1050273#p1050273

[04-15] Conversion of Quake Ikwhite textures to Doom format
https://my.mixtape.moe/etefke.wad

[04-13] Anon texture release: Source engine-style devtextures
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=93737565247231239878

[04-11] Heretical Doom updated to v1.2
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=56762

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is golden souls 2 out now

Ey

>>4731480
>that expression
Jesus, too lewd

xth for ur a faget

>>4731508

>>4731508
But why

>>4731508
u r the demons

>>4731543

Honestly, if slaughter is done right it can be pretty rewarding and fun. I just think of it as bullet hell, like touhou. It may looks daunting and annoying. But if it's done well like going down then it's extremely rewarding. It has to go beyond just circle strafe rocket launcher. The mapper has to add little gimmicks and objectives for you to do while dodging projectiles.

So does anyone of any instances of a good slaughtermap?

>>4731563
So can anyone think of any instances**

Dear god, I just woke up

>>4731563
/thread

>>4731563
A good slaughtermap would need something to expedite the monster killing process because there's going to be so many fucking dudes. There's no weapon in the unmodded game powerful enough to do that, so infighting is logically the only weapon with the powerscale to do that. Mixing monster types enough that causing big infights is possible, and also having enough space to bob and weave to aggro more parts of the map without having to kill everyone in the previous part first. Needless to say slaughtershit does neither.

Please tell me i'm not alone. I have no idea why doomseeker people love Complex doom so much. It's literally everything that doom isn't. Hiding, reloading, more hiding, Oh did I mention hiding?

>>4731581
Off the top of my head: You can add switches that crush enemies , you can add switches that reveal barrels. You can add a switch that gives you a cyber demon perfectly placed for infighting. There's lots you can do

>>4731582
Doomseeker is bundled with Zandronum, which has its own community. They highly enjoy Complex+LCA, MM8BDM, Comhotel, and Brutal offshoots. Anything else is sparsely populated.

>>4731582
Mines are one of the only reasons i even care for the mod and you can't use them if you're holding a bigger weapon

>>4731590
Yeah i found that out. Honestly I had some fun with complex multiplayer. So I decided it'd be cool to try it single player and learn how to deal with each enemy a little better. And it was just fucking boring.

Hide, shoot, hide, shoot, hide, shoot.

>>4731602
>>4731601
>>4731590
oh and some of the projectiles are too fast to even dodge half the time. So you can't just run out into a group of enemies sprinting around them blowing their heads off.

>>4731603
Were you just playing the base mod or did you load all the add-ons?

>>4731605
all the addons. Which made it a bit better, but again changed the gameplay to the extreme. I like going down where you get trapped in a room with a bunch of enemies and have to keep moving. I don't like hunkering down behind a wall

>>4731584
I tend to not press random switches during encounters because there's a high chance that it's meant to be pressed at the end/bring more monsters in

>>4731602
The difficulty is obviously meant for multiplayer

>>4731609
If you were playing it with LCA, that's probably why. The base mod is a decent randomizer, LCA turns it into ridiculous gold and blue shit everywhere with bloated mp3 music.

>>4731615
hows hard doom? Do you think that'd be a bit better?

>>4731617
Hard doom is simply a monster replacer which makes the enemies... harder. It can be run with weaponsets if you want, but playing vanilla brings some challenges

>>4731629
hmm guess i'll try and find some weapon sets that would pair with hard doom nicely.

>>4731198
Just checked out the Babel homepage and it sounds like an interesting mod. When will you be uploading the latest?

>>4731629
Not the same anon that was initially asking about Hard Doom, but I have to ask, how does one make sure the weapon set works with Hard Doom?

I tried to do so just now (using ZDL to assist with load order) and I just couldn't figure it out, because I tried with High Noon Drifter and it still was showing the vanilla hud and spawning a chainsaw instead of the boomerang.

Am I the only one who thinks that the Rocket Launcher in Quake doesn't make the Grenade Launcher useless?

>>4731640
Why would it?
The GL can be used in specific situations tied to the level geometry

>>4731640
Grenades are handy for enemies on ledges above you that are much harder to hit with straight-shooting rockets.
This should apply to most games with those two weapons.

>>4731640
the GL and RL work really well together, they make a fine pair

>>4731640
Yeah, the grenade launcher is still good for when you need to get an enemy around the corner.

>>4731641
I've heard some people saying that RL is more precise and allows rocket jumping, therefore it makes the other useless according to them.
I think they just can't aim.

>>4731638
What order did you put them in?

PS1 Doom > Doom 64

>>4731661
I tried it both ways honestly since my last post.

One way I got the vanilla hud but was still using the HND weapons until I saw the chainsaw hadn't been replaced by the boomerange.

And the other way, well I got HND's hud, but the chainsaw was still there. I'm using the latest versions of both mods as well.

>>4731671
I looked in SLADE, I forgot that Hard Doom has its own weapons and HUD. Try commenting the weapons out in DECORATE, and try commenting out the SBARINFO, see if it works.

>>4731682
Alrighty, I'll keep that in mind. Thank you!

Is there a version of fragtrak without the hud?

>>4731581
>Slaughtershit
Stop playing doom, Mark.

>>4731709
Risen3D?

>>4731730
Think so. Or maybe Doomsday.

God, people thought this shit looked good, surely the HD Texture Pack of its day.

>>4731709
>The Virgin Revenant
>The Chad Revanant

>>4730818
I know, I saw the link in the OP. That's why I was thanking you guys.

>>4731748
Quake 3 skins are so much better than Risen3d and Doomsday.They've actually put effort in these.

>>4731753
I had nothing to do with it but I'll happily take the credit

Continuing the discussion in the previous thread I wonder if a Shambler model for Q3 would work. It has a more humanoid appearance, scaling down I don't think it would be an issue.

>>4731764
It's still pretty big, and the three fingered, meaty hands leave a lot to be desired for the weapons. I think the knights and the zombie would work better.

>>4731773
I've seen one porting the Q4 gladiator and was huge. I don't think the hands might that much of a issue if you make a pose strictly for the character.

>>4731796
Oh right, I forgot about that. I guess the Shambler could work at full size, if the user was fine with sticking out from anywhere.

>>4731804
I think scaled down as they did with Cyberdemon model or slightly taller than Tank Jr would be better.
I think an Ogre would be good too.

>>4731817
I could probably make an attempt, if I knew how.

>>4731764
>always 90 fov
>only 150 health and 50 armor
I know this is fake but that'd be dumb lmao

Is there a way to make items in doom unobtainable when they're behind a small slot wall, similar to Duke3d's? When I attempt to do webm related for doom, my character picks the item up before opening the door slot.

So I took a shot at CLANG.wad. Best Berserk themed Doom wad.

>>4731863
You can customize the item in Decorate to only finish the pickup state when it can see the picker-upper maybe?

>>4731869
Thanks. Though I admit I haven't done anything with decorate in a long time, and was hoping for an easier solution within gzdoombuilder.

>>4731864
I wish there was an actual Berserk mod for Doom. Swinging the Dragonslayer, using the arm cannon. It would be amazing.
I mean we have OPM, Dragon Ball, 2 Jojo Mods and yet no Berserk.

>>4731884
I'd definitely play a Berserk Doom wad.

>>4731864
>So I took a shot at CLANG.wad
i must admit, being from /m/ i'm rather disappointed it has nothing to do with robot girls

>>4731840
I think a Shambler wouldn't be out of place in QC. Imagine a power up like Doom 4 demon runes multiplayer.
Slow but can one shot almost everyone or drain 90% of your health

>>4731893

Imagine a shambler trying to use a gun.
>HOW DO I AIM?
>BEEFY SAUSAGE FINGERS NOT FIT TRIGGER
>WHY CAN'T I JUST USE LIGHTNING
>THIS IS DUMB

>>4731893
>the shambler amble

>>4731907
it looks like it has a slight limp

>>4731909
Maybe he stretched his calf chasing down his last dinner

>>4731758
No problem. Just set up Quakespasm and ECWolf. Loving the ability to play these games in 1080p. Makes me feel like it's the 90s again. Only thing I wish ECWolf supported was weapon switching with the mouse wheel, but it's no biggie.

>>4731905
>THIS IS GARBAGE
>*violently throws weapon*
>*accidentally hits a character and kills it*
>YOU' VE TAKEN THE LEAD.

>>4731454
Virgin FPS heavy vs chadgunner

Speaking of hitscan vs projectile from last thread
>https://babel-mod.neocities.org/
Mostly bugfixes but they're pretty important. I also did a full 30 map Oblige run to see how well the mod plays under some of the worst gameplay conditions I can imagine and it made me want to fucking kill myself but it was not as bad as I thought, definitely pretty well balanced. Highlights:
- BFG nerfed but still ridiculously powerful
- PSMG works on maps with Voodoo dolls (previously had infinite ammo)
- Spectre ghosts are now silent to help differentiate them
Still looking to do a bit of a sound rework but sound is definitely one of my weaker points. I may also change the SMG sprite, but I dunno.

Someone needs to make an infograph for the Carnivores series of games. They're pretty great.

>>4731952
Can I just say how much I appreciate the work you've put into Babel? Once you tweaked the pinkies and adding the PSMG I really do enjoy this mod. Your blood system is really fucking neato too, and I like your flavor text for all of the weapons.

>>4731962
Thanks bro. I'm really trying to polish it as much as physically possible. The feedback I've gotten, while a bit sparse, has also been great. Even the stuff that I didn't act on at least made me look back and re-assess my design decisions. The chainsaw thing in particular was a really good idea that I probably wouldn't have otherwise thought of, but works insanely well for reducing annoyance.

>>4731968
What was the chainsaw thing? Not stunlocking pinkies properly?

>>4731969
More than that, it now has a special trait where the pinkie/spectre stun has a far lower chance to trigger rage/teleportation, meaning they can't escape the melee as easily in addition to being stunned more often.

>>4731972
Eyyy that was me awhile back. Yes, chainsaws work way better on those guys now.
I really want to poke at your blood system and use it for my own purposes, though I'm not sure if it's friendly with zandy.

>>4731974
To be fair I cannibalized a huge part of the code from https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=52976 because that blood looks cool as fuck. You could probably port it to Zandybam without too much effort. I can look into it real fast.

>>4731974
https://my.mixtape.moe/cayoiq.pk3
Here, works in latest Zandronum. May require slight sprite tweaking for proper color, as mine did.

>>4731982
well hot damn. Thanks dude, I'll be sure to add you and Zrrion to the credits.
I've been looking for some stylish, simple blood for Combined_Arms that wasn't nashgore as that's been done a lot, and this is a fuckin winner.

It was that or the old Burl_Tumd blood, which, while hilarious, was framerate destroying at times.

>>4731640
GL fires faster, too.

>>4731985
Thanks Kegan. For the record you or anyone else is free to use whatever from Babel as well. It's not fully documented *yet* but I don't believe in restricting use of mods I make. That also goes for the horribly janky systems in older versions that used Decorate, if you can find a pk3 of them.

>>4731986
It has a great noise when firing, too.
>*TWHEMP*

>>4731994
I think all I wanna borrow is the pleasing blood trails, everything else is very much Babel's thing. Though admittedly I kinda wanna yank those pleasing projectile and trails for like, the bullet weapons and the PSMG, they look nice.

>>4731998
Well those are very very janky and somewhat rely on the player's perspective to not show a problem that I haven't gotten around to fixing yet at least for the player's tracers. I'll get to it eventually. but probably ZS-only. I don't know if you can get a proper lerp working in only Decorate and ZS. Also for the record here's the original 64_Blood and my modded version in case you wanted to know how any of Zrrion's effects worked. They're pretty different actually, now that I look at them.
http://www.hatebin.com/agtuzpcfww

>>4731996
>*PLONG PLONG PLONG PLONG*

>>4732006
>ZS
ACS*

Does anyone have either of the following as PDFs?
>The Official Doom Survivor's Strategies & Secrets
>DOOM Battlebook: Revised and Expanded Edition (Secrets of the Games Series)

>>4732009
>*KERPOOOW!*

>author uses abandoned map projects as secret levels

Is Brutal Doom good? I see it getting praised all over the internet, but hated here. Why is that?

Honest question.

>>4732050
no.

next question.

>>4732050
"All over the internet" usually just means games journalists and people who have have a passive interest in doom mods so they barely, BARELY scratch the surface.
Some hate it here, others just dislike it because it borks balance in dumb ways, has bad sound design, feature bloat, and it's poorly coded.

If you're just doing this for chuckles I will find you.

>>4732050
Smooth Doom is better.

>>4732050
Try it for yourself, bud. That's the only correct answer.

>>4732053
>>4732059
Okay.
>>4732056
Thanks for explaining anon. Wasn't baiting, just curious.

>>4732021
Sorry anon. Wish I could help.

Is Final Doomer worth checking out? If yes which class is the best?

>>4732104
Yes
BTSX

>found my original quake copy
>it still has it's original reciept
>10/21/1996 at Sam's Club
>bought a 40lb bag of Morton Salt, the game itself, cat litter, pants, 3 packs of paper cups
this is fucking surreal bros

>>4732050
Brutal Doom is fine, but there are variants of it that polished it before it to the state it's in now. Sperglord was my favorite version, but I'm sure there are better variants out there now.

The core mod is bloated as hell now. Older versions were more focused and therefor better imo.

>>4732163
Neat!
Now I want some salt...

>>4732164
I genuinely feel like v24 was Brutal Doom's peak

>>4732163
>that shopping list
What

>>4732168
Isn't it only on like v20 or something?

>>4732056
All mods fuck the balance up. It's why they should be made as partial/total conversions, not as shit you slap on to a mapset and be done with.

>>4732176
I'm retarded, current version is v21
I liked v20 because v21 fucked with the blood splatters, they look too thin

>>4732179
Some days you just don't want to give a fuck about balance, you know?

>>4732179
Most don't take to an extreme like BD does, nor does BD do much in the way of trying to strike a balance of its own type, that headshot system really borks everything

>>4732104
Definitely worth checking out even if just for standard Doom 2 weaponset

If best as in strongest then Ancient Aliens guy wins out pretty clean followed by Plutonia

BTSX and JPCP guys both have some very strong stuff and some kind of weak stuff, TNT guy is the weakest by far

>>4732179
go back to doomworld

>>4732212
>plutonia guy's revolver

>>4732179

When you finally finish your doom map and realize it's fun

Been working on this level of my wad for a while now and it's good that it plays well, specially with gmota which I had in mind while playing it. It just feels kinda short

>>4732230
>It just feels kinda short
Perfect match for the main character

>>4732234
c o m p a c t

>>4732212
I'd say JPCPguy is pretty up there for someone who only has one hitscan weapon, only held back by a small nailgun capacity.

Do you like the firemace, /doom/?

>>4732263
I have a soft spot for the popcorn gun.

>>4732263
It's pretty good, but it isn't the shotgun-tier weapon that Terminus thought it was for some fucking reason. Jesus Christ, all he had to do was play Heretic for five minutes to learn that the ethereal crossbow is the shotgun equivalent.

>>4732247
He has a top tier BFG and a solid plasma rifle, but the rockets leave a little something to be desired for bigger enemies(Good on weaker ones though) and the single shotgun is pretty ass

Him and BTSX Guy are strong but still a bit behind Plutonia and AA

Only bad character is TNTguy

>>4732274
TNTguy sucks? Why?

>>4732273
you would rather have the firemace in the ssg tier?

frankly, that's an even bigger bad idea

>>4731905
>>4731925

>>4732274
Rockets with no self-damage is still a big deal, even if they're just blinding balls of light instead. I might agree with the shotgun if only because the katana is good when applicable, though it's still pretty consistent for what it is.

BTSXguy I feel is pretty average for the mod's standards. The powerup ball is a bit finicky depending on what kind of map you're on and he has his SSG equivalent either way too short or somewhat inconsistent to be useful over the stock one, but it does hit some sweetspots like 2HKO'ing an Archvile and that's incredibly useful if you can apply it. More often than not I found myself using the rocket launcher more often since it's consistent and safe.

Last time I used Plutguy, the BFG wasn't bad against regular enemies but it sucked at taking down boss monsters, everything else was good but that detail stuck out. I think that puts AAguy on top, whose entire kit is honestly just fantastic.

>>4732290
I think TNTguy's biggest problem by far is a lack of good burst damage that plenty of Doom maps might call for.

>>4732309
This is fucking great.

>>4732290
Relatively weak weapons and an awkward rocket launcher(Good firing rate though), BFG is kind of ass and his chaingun equivalent has very very low damage

>>4732309
EXCELLENT

>>4732306
Firemace is for the BFG slot.

>>4732323

>>4732323
You're joking, right?

>>4732323
Tome of Power is for the BFG slot

>>4732323
that is exactly the problem with the firemace, it is a terrible bfg

>>4731764
>>4731893
>no shaggy coat
Into the trash it goes.

>>4732330
>tfw arcane dimensions uses its own shambler model now that is not only clearly not shaggy but also piss-yellow

>>4732263

I hate it as a BFG replacement. That special spawncode where it can only appear once on a map and has a 75% chance of spawning at all is baffling as hell.
But as a little chaingun/plasma rifle alternative, it's pretty okay. I actually would've taken it as the plasma rifle replacement over the Hellstaff.

>>4731952
>PSMG works on maps with Voodoo dolls (previously had infinite ammo)
Oh goodie, this one annoyed me a bit, but I didn't report it because I thought I was fucking it up with another mod or something.

>>4732327
Tome of Power is an item, not a weapon. It should have replaced berserker pack or one of the other pickups which didn't have a Hexen equivalent. Yet another reason why Samsara is pretty bad for anything other than deathmatch.

>>4732335
Nah it was a weird ZScript problem. Had to offload the regeneration code to a thinker singleton because apparently ammo pool is "global" but playerpawn scripts run per-pawn. I think there's a similar bug with the BFG that's more rare, but I'm not 100% sure. Still investigating.

>>4732338
>thirty second item duration
>replacing the fucking berserk
nah, bro

nah

>>4732104
The fact that the Doom gatling gun is merely a reskinned regular ol' machinegun will never stop annoying me.

>>4732341
Have you never played Heretic? The tome is his berserker pack.

>>4732338
Tome of Power changes the function of all the weapons and has extreme versatility
The berserk pack is more common than the BF, ergo, the Tome becomes Slot 7.

>>4732338
The Tome of Power is what makes Corvus worth playing and changes his entire gameplay dramatically. And, in line with your previous argument, is the only thing as to what makes the Firemace actually BFG rather than a shitty pinball gun. Relegating it to an item with extremely spotty map placement is fucking stupid.

>>4732346
have YOU? the tome isn't fucking close to a berserk pack, it's a complete game-changer

>>4732346
Berserk pack
>only affects one weapon
>used for full heal or gimmick fist-only sections of maps
>lasts entire level
>used rarely in maps

Tome of Power
>affects all weapons
>lasts 30 seconds
>placed very frequently in maps
>used for a huge damage boost

>>4732334
>I hate it as a BFG replacement. That special spawncode where it can only appear once on a map and has a 75% chance of spawning at all is baffling as hell.
>But as a little chaingun/plasma rifle alternative, it's pretty okay. I actually would've taken it as the plasma rifle replacement over the Hellstaff.
You have to take the Tome of Power into account when judging Heretic Weapons.

>>4732334
BFG replacement should be a Firemace bundled with a couple of ToP's.

sarais did nothing wrong except like a game you didn't.

r&i

>>4732375
Hate to respond to obvious bait, but what game are you talking about?

>>4732234
Speaking of short, Doomslayer's weapon seems to have the same reach as Blaz's. Which actually feels even shorter relatively because Doomslayer's taller than Blaz

>>4732381
Backseat moderation is a rule violation.
So is telling others to report and ignore.
>>4732382
Evolve which was actually a good game, if you weren't a brainless normie who jumped in and automatically assumed they knew everything

>>4732417
not retro

http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-minecraft

has science gone too far?

>>4731454
>tfw you finally pull off the E1M4 yellow keycard SR50 skip over the acid pit
Dear lord guys, it felt so good.

>>4732426
Makes me think of a shitty Unity asset flip game.

>>4732426
I kind of wonder what the point is.
Like if you're gonna make it about combat, why not just play regular Brutal Doom in a real level set?

>>4732423
Neither is most of the thread, but let's just keep singling out one poster even though he's just replying to one dude on the subject of discussion.

>>4732426

>>4732432
But can you bridge to rail?

>>4732448
Judging by the video, it's just broodal domb with an autismcraft reskin

>>4732375
>>4732417
>>4732459
yes, yes
poor, innocent, trampled s'arais

i was happy we had a number of threads that were actually really good without you, but now that you're back i guess it's time for autism to reign again until you get chased off again

Speaking of ToP, ToP'd Eleven Wand is underrated?

Demons of Problematique sure looks pretty but the author has a thing for making me fight Barons of Hell with only a shotgun and chaingun and its really pissing me off.

>>4732502
What makes me more angry is the fact that I keep seeing rockets everywhere and I know Im obviously supposed to have the rocket at this point but I cant fucking find it

>>4732509
If you're having trouble, maybe you should clean the vaseline off your glasses

>>4732536
Nice shitpost.

>>4732536
>I posted the funny meme again rather than actually giving advice!

>>4732537
>>4732549
it was really cool of you to throw a tanty over a joke instead of providing an answer

>>4732509
>>4732502
it's actually pretty common for a mapset to provide with ammo for a weapon before picking up the weapon

DoP goes the extreme, though, you don't actually get the RL until (relatively) late in
but i like how they kind of tease you with ammo
i don't like how you get thrown all sorts of barons, though

>>4732562
So I'm actually supposed to hack my way through all these barons and spiders with just a shotgun? I dont even think they give me enough ammo for that. I dont understand why they didnt just use hell knights instead. Guess I'll try running past them.

>decide to try out risen for the first time in years
>decide to download all the HD addons and models
>mfw everything

>>4732576
>jDoom resource pack

>>4732568
yeah, you're supposed to run past encounters

it's something that could be telegraphed more efficiently

>>4732582
>finish me..

>>4732263
I think it's a pretty pointless weapon that brings down Heretic

>>4732491
Tomed Phoenix Rod is underrated, oftentimes people don't even know how it works.

>>4732263
Nah. People like the tomed firemace. That shit wrecks almost everything.

>>4732163
>pretty much the most irrelevant shopping list ever
>"oh and Quake"

>>4732601
For you, it was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was HUHsday.

>>4732603
what if you jumped around spastically irl? would you be able to reach supersonic speeds by building boost off of jumping?

>>4732589
I used to think this was pretty cool.
It's still neat, but it looks like dog shit.

>>4732627
You ever watched an acrobatics competition?

>>4732263
I got balls of firemace

>>4732627
Fuck imagine how epic life would be if you could bhop in person. I bet if exoskeletons were ever made for consumers, there'd be one that could give you air control and forward acceleration if possible.

>>4732595
Especially it's ammo consumption mechanism, yes.

>>4732630
sounds like a bunch of HUH to me.

The sea be a harsh mistress.

>>4732661

That's real fucking clever.

Can someone explain to me the inexplicable silent popularity of Hideous Destructor?
Most people map around vanilla, most gameplay modders mod with the intention of producing something parallel to vanilla, most reviewers and lets-players play vanilla maps and vanilla-parallel gameplay mods, and the only time I see people talk about HD is to do a bunch of (mostly annoying) bitching because they apparently can't wrap their heads around tactical gameplay. And yet....
Somehow it's the most popular mod on ZDoom forums and has a thread 480+ pages long? The fuck? Where the fuck are these people coming from? How the hell is it so popular yet the discussion (outside that thread) is non-existent? Are these people hanging out on ARMA and Rainbow Six forums or something? This shit confuses me dudes.

>>4732668
it scratches an unconventional itch for a lot of people and does it well and in a rewarding way
i think
personally not into it, but i can definitely see the appeal

>>4732679
>it scratches an unconventional itch for a lot of people
I guess. Nothing in the community indicates it is popular, yet it is. Feels really left-field, y'know?

>>4732661
The fact you only ever post this shit in software render irks me.

>>4732686
it's meant for vanilla, i'm not fazed by it in the slightest

I'm hyped, mods told me my map qualified so Joel's gonna play it any time now.
I hope he doesn't mind the only arch-vile I placed there but honestly it's not my fault he doesn't know how to deal with them or how to save ammo.

>>4732690
I think it's because I didn't grow up playing Doom (was too young) that seeing old non-GL rendering bugs me. Also it's a peeve of mine that software rendering obscures so much shit in the distance.
Good to know it will be compatible as fuck though.

>>4732686
>shit
how dare you, sir
this is high quality fertilizer, at the worst.
you'll be hearing from my mother

>>4732695
>texture filtering
nvm, go back to software

>>4732698
nothing is good enough for you

>>4732668
>>4732679
>>4732683

Keep in mind the votes are weighted. Someone voting 5 isn't the same as five different people voting for it. A more proper gauge of popularity would be tallying up how many different people voted for something, rather than the weight of votes.
That being said, >>4732679 is right on the money. It's been around for a long time, offers a gameplay experience completely unique to it, and does it very well.

Anyone here watch BigMacDavis?

>>4732502
I have never once seen a brick layed diagonally

>>4732713
I have.

>>4732714
How do I know to trust you?

>>4732716
I split the handle of a sledgehammer breaking down an outdoor fireplace for my gram and grandad. It had diagonal bricks. The wood pinched the meat of my hand something fierce.

>>4732661
>700x528
Uhh.. what?

>>4732716
what makes you say this? like anyone ITT turned out to be a revenant irl or something.

>>4732309
Amazing.
Is that Ranger on the bottom right?

Does anyone know how to disable texture filtering in KM Quake 2? I tried /gl_TextureMode gl_linear but it didn't do anything.

>>4732787
Nevermind, figured it out.

>>4732661
CAN NOT WAIT FOR REKKR

>>4732804
>9 hours 23 minutes ago
hol up

>>4732806
4chan was kill

>>4731884
>>4731884
doomslayers bombs and knives felt pretty berserky to me in GMOTA

Back to Shufflin'

About fucking time.

JESUS FUCK THAT TOOK FOREVER

Anyway, enjoy this oldschool painted cover, it was intended for Shadow Warrior, way, WAY back during its development.
That game has Alpha builds dating back as early as 1992, seriously.

>>4732812
Mirrored angled rotations I can understand, but A1C1? Come on.

Oh thank God we're back. I was reduced to browsing 8 dot ch /v/ DOOM threads. They have some right crazy conspiracy theorists over there, boy howdy.

>>4732821
i got angry at their stupidity

FUCKING BROKE AGAIN

THANK YOU BASED GOOKMOOT

>>4732821
>>4732826
Friendly reminder to always disregard the Doom threads over there, they're absolutely worthless. /agdg/ is the only somewhat good thread over there, and even then, activity is slow.

Back to Doom talk, any mods or projects you guys looking forward to?

Oh, 4chan was dead?
I was wondering why nobody posted the whole day...

>>4732828
Still waiting for guncaster update.
Also looking at booster to taking shape. But that will take even longer, probably.

I'm back, I decided to give Complex doom another try, downloaded every single possible addon and played it on Counterattack.wad

Holy shit it's actually amazing turns into a massive clusterfuck. When you're all runed up with the entire arsenal and you're fighting hordes and hordes of over powered demons it's extremely satisfying.

>>4732840
> clusterfuck
Heh, funny how you used exactly this word to describe Complex Doom...

The Virgin generic FPS heavy soldier
>Slowly walks forward like he's trying to be intimidating
>Bearly registered as a threat in a firefight
>usually fat
>tries to roast the player through his helmet, taunts are laughable
>has to reload, like, a lot
>carries a low to mid tier shotgun or light machine gun, somehow uses it worse than anybody else
>likely has a massive weak point on his back
>friendless; never seen with another of his kind in any scenario
>struggles to hold their weapon; has to use two hands
>bearly lights a candle to higher tier enemies
>Can't aim for shit
>Wears bulkier version of generic Mook armor
>Pale skin requires every inch of body to be covered to protect from sun
The DOOM chadgunner
>doesn't need to, but stands still while firing because mobility is for virgins
>strikes fear on an instinctual level
>so muscular that they have to wear special armor pieces to accommodate their build
>Lets out a mighty roar when they see an enemy
>does not know what reloading is
>handles the finest UAC weaponry with maximum efficiency
>has no weak points
>always seen in packs
>Holds chainguns one-handed to demonstrate his superiority
>single-handedly tears apart larger monsters
>Fires chaingun with precision to the point that he's practically a sniper
>Adorns himself with the blood of his enemies
>Aims to show off as much as his tan skin as possible

>>4732840
Have you tried using 10x_u.pk3?

>CH's bone wizard makes it where any time a monster dies, a skeleton is born
>>4732828
I'm hoping for Combined Arms' update, because those guns look fun.
>>4731251
If a Caco were to be in QC, would he have four skins with one based off Doom 64 or would they have to cut that one out for obvious reasons?

>>4732852
Oh, goodie!

>>4732850
more like
> does not care about accuracy, compensates with sheer volume of fire, a testament to how much fucking ammo he can carry

>>4732852
Nah,they would slightly change it.After all D4 Caco also has hands.

>classic caco in QC
>holds currently equipped weapon in his mouth
Come to think of it I think there's a pic out there of a cacodemon chewing on a keyboard

>>4732881
there is. i used it for a thread once. the title was "biting commentary" if you want to search for it.

>>4732886
Searched in archive.moe and warosu, I must be using these tools wrong because I couldn't find diddly.
Oh well.

>>4732828
Whatever Null: Face to Face is going to be

>>4732595
The very first level of Elf Gets Pissed makes great use of the tomed Phoenix Rod by forcing you to use it against an approaching army of golems.
>>4732661
I fucking love this.

>>4732850
BAD THING
GOOD THING

Have to admit,Beautiful Doom is so good
The addition of Smooth Doom animations is great.

>>4732921
mapset?

>>4732897
you are bad at computers.

>>4732921
Now only if we can combine it with Dead Marine...

>>4732926
Oh that's why. I searched for biting commentary

Wolfenstein 3D bosses always fucked me up because of how they're larger than BJ and enemies, even their eyes are big as fuck
Imagine if TNO ended with Deathshead getting taller, wider and cartoon eyes while wielding machine guns instead of a mecha

>>4732926
and I also didn't see the subject line there, fuck me.

>>4732924
Doom one
http://www.moddb.com/mods/doomone

>>4732927
Dead Marine is still in Beta state,I think they will add smooth sprites for the enemies too in the future.
Maybe if they release BD map effects only.

>>4732934
>REMEMBER ME, BILLY?

>>4732934
They looked weird but I think that's part of their charm.
On top of that most of them don't even wear an armor,they're dressed like regular soldiers.

Pic related is from August. When'll the next update be?

Haha zandronum be like
bang bang unf "SOULSPHERE"

>>4732907
>>4732662
>fucking
Thanks. It's for a demo intro. You won't see rogue waves attacking you in-game.

>>4732959

What would you see added onto it?

>doom 3 hell knights get to look different in hell
Has any classic Doom mod or mapset ever made it, where enemies get certain changes in their home locations?

>>4732998
No idea. Just wanted to make an updated version of the IWADs and more torrent, and didn't want to introduce one for v8 if v9 was just around the corner.

huh

>>>/wsg/2199264
Impact sound effects and some incomplete visuals (no bullet holes for metal surfaces). Pistol sped up and made silent for testing purposes.

>>4732661
Stupid mod! You make me look bad!

>>4733004
uhu

>>4733003

Not a whole lot more I plan on doing with the image.
There's a bunch of minor tweaks and edits I could make (Pirate Doom moved to conversions, another levelpack in its place, Hangman replaced with QCDE, 200 minutes of /vr/ updated to mention 300 minutes), but I think the image is already pretty solid for a starting point. If I update it again, I'd like another entry for every category.
The "4chan's own mods" section has been languishing for quite some time. Make more mods, guys!

>>4733019
I've made another two since then. But I don't think they're worth listing up there. REKKR could be added when it's launched. Project babel could be added as well, projectILE too.

>>4733019
yeah ditch hangman, I don't think anyone actually cares about it
ant still isn't a word

>>4733018
YOU THERE

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/92574-dimension-of-the-boomed-beta2-release/
I just played the first 2 levels of this and it's really impressive. It's a Quake themed mapset currently in beta.

>>4733047
>Quake themed mapset
INSTA-DOWNLOAD

>>4732914
I love this shit, lol

rate reddit's taste

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/74c2dv/the_best_doom_wadsmods/dnx7cq2/

I HAVE LITERALLY NEVER HAD FUN FIGHTING BARONS OF HELL WHY DO THEY EVEN EXIST

>>4733073
To piss you off.

>>4733069
My only complaint is the poster there called it "Strange Eons" not "Aeons"

>>4733073
like, licherally cringing rn

>>4733069
i don't care/10

>>4732850

>>4733069

One person is not a community/10

Which of the 3000 Maximum Doom levels are worth playing?

>>4732342
Then simply change its sprites via slade3 it's piss easy.
I changed the chaingun with doom 3 machine gun,helped increase the immersion for me.

>>4733105
Oh my, that's a nice HUD. What is this?

>>4733103
it's either all or nothing

>>4733105
where'd you find that? Looks different from the usual version I see

>>4733106
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9kbpvtd9kyprxv/newhud.wad?dl=0
I found it in the doomworld forum, here is the link if you like the hud

>>4733103
just play the 20 commissioned levels

>>4733113
Thanks anon. It's a good find.

>>4733112
i believe it's by shivers

>>4733112
You mean doom 3's machine gun sprites?
It's from Shadows of the apocalypse.wad
Download it,copy the sprites, change their name and vola
I hope your familiar on how to use slade3

>>4733116
You're welcome.
>>4733112
>where'd you find that? Looks different from the usual version I see
You mean the machine gun sprites?
They are from Shadow of the apocalypse wad.
Download the wad,copy the sprites ,rename them and you're done,i hope you know how to use slade3

>>4733069
I don't see anything that's bad, I guess.

>>4733103
None of them, they're quite literally not worth your time, it's D-Zone tier by all accounts, and many of them are even broken, because a bunch of them were computer converted from Doom 1 to Doom 2, and this sometimes broke some levels.

Play the Master Levels instead. They're not amazing by any means, but there's only 20(+1) levels, and some bit of effort went into them.

>>4732998
>>4732959
Shouldn't we seperate it into different images for topic like wads, mods, source ports etc

>>4733047
inb4 it's just quack textures
get a real 3d map format, nurds

>>4733170
there's a sprite shambler right there, you double skeleton

>>4733174
but why did they use the ugly arcane dimensions model?

>>4733179
>Arcane Dimensions Shambler
>Ugly

>>4733183
it's got yellow man-boobs, eight of them

>>4733183
But they're not wrong, it IS.

>>4732850
Friendly reminder doomguy is a virgin and has no interest in sex

>>4733210
May allah/god forgive me for saying this...But H-Doom is canon now....

>>4733210
Doomguy is definitely on the spectrum someplace.

>>4733210
Citation needed

>>4733210
That's where you're wrong.

Anybody have that infographic made by Rekkr dude on how to make a monster sprite? I just nabbed some ripped models and specifically need instructions on lighting and shit.

>>4733227
word of god

>>4733210
that just means doomguy is pure
pure rage

is it possible to change actor height with zscript now

Kegan, you're sure you fixed the SSG for the Doomslayer?
Because i tested it and i still could oneshot a revenant
Maybe i should get again

>>4733289
>get
Check*

>>4733263
When?

Which boss of Wolf 3D is your favourite?
(Mecha Hitler aside of course)

>>4733292
Carmack Twitter

Heads up, Joel's about to start streaming WADs.

>>4733293
why, the death knight

>>4733210
unf

>>4733293
gotta be the ubermutant

>>4733206
I didn't play AD for a while so I don't I remember it.
Sorry.
Do you think it would've been better if they used this one instead?

>>4733179
wait, can't you use the original shambler?

>>4733297
twitch is vargskelethor, by the way.

>>4733289
Yes. The revenants are just on the more fragile side in GMOTA.

I actually didn't know you can regenerate your health with the blood pools in Wolf 3D.
Blazko you madman

>>4733323
A shame it can only be done at single digit health

>platunia

>>4733327
TNT: Fertilization
The Petunia Experiment

>>4733326
Maybe it would have made the game too easy. But then again it's not like you die in 2 hits when they shoot you in the back.

>>4733323
BJ... had a hard life

BTW I'm in the mood for some Wolf 3D.What mods do you suggest me /vr/?
I have ECwolf.The ones for Doom are fine too.

>>4733337
Totenkopf SDL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZtkK8mJnkI

Oooh Joel's talking about that guy who came to this thread to complain about how he played his game in the wrong way, apparently he emailed him.

>>4733323
I think term included it as one of BJ's perks in samsara

>>4733346
>Being so mad that someone doesn't play your map right that you actually email them to complain
What a tremendous faggot.

>>4733346
That's pathetic.

>>4733346
fucking amazing

>>4733236
it doesn't have a lot of info, it's just a general "this is an idea how to get started maybe" thing

>>4733309
in quake or in AD?

>>4733387
in that quake themed wad
why didn't he used the original?

>>4733391
It's a more detailed model that probably translated better to sprite form than the original. That's just my theory.

Come join me in the doom 1 servers. been playing these servers since 2004:

zdaemon.org

Has any of you ever had a Doom related dream or about any classic fps or even mods?
I once dreamed that a new Doom game had FIREBLU and i was talking about it so much, i was on an hospital bed with my family saying "what the fuck is he talking about, doctor?"

>>4733401
what's the name

>>4732907
>The very first level of Elf Gets Pissed makes great use of the tomed Phoenix Rod by forcing you to use it against an approaching army of golems.
Good stuff, also teaches players how ammo comsumption works with it.

>>4733401
holy shit that's vintage

what's the uh, ip

>>4733409

85.214.205.224

There's always only been like 4/5 doom 1 shareware servers so they are easy to find if you organize by IWAD. Unfortunately the US servers have crap settings so I stick to the international ones despite the ping

I was gone for a few years. I used to hang around since to old [ldf] days. Then I hung around the [DX] clan because they were all good and used to just troll everyone.

Servers used to be crammed, but nowadays it's rare to find players. I think many of the other veterans do private servers with different aliases.

At least now a lot of the annoying players are gone so I thought I'd pick it back up and just decimate players in the doom 1 servers like I used to

When a map uses a weapon as an ammo pick up, can it be used as indication that you should use this weapon in the upcoming situation?
Like, if i already had a chaingun and saw one next to a new path, could that mean i not only get more bullets but also that i should switch for that weapon?

>>4733438
servers are graveyards, but then again, doom is nearing 25 years soon

>>4733441
It's there for pistol starts

>>4733438
Is it the FFA?

>>4733456
kek yes

>>4733210
Then he's not an incel, he's voluntary celibate. He's not interested in sex because he's too busy murdering demons.

>>4733501
I'm sorry, my skill is not enough

>>4733538
You're better than most people that join.

>>4733542
I killed myself multiple times in every match, you Zdaemon dudes are on another level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjI1nPEMD90

What are the comfiest laid back easy going wads for those lazy rainy days?

>>4733614
>imp fireballs replaced with SUBAWALA
Holy fuck.

>>4733662
see >>4733614

>>4733662
>cozy
>that window
That room's humid as hell, that's the opposite of cozy.

>>4733678
I'd argue that's frost on the outside.

>>4733614
Canadian squirt gun arsenal when?

>>4733384
thanks duder!

>>4733678
I thought it was a cold day outside the room with the window frosted up. Not mine, I just grabbed it off google images.

>mapping block

>>4733739
>being able to start a map in the first place

>>4732661
Just wanted to say this was a really well done intro.
Clever use of vanilla mechanics.

>>4731454
What is the single most beautiful use of the Doom engine?

>>4733401
I've been gone for a few years and this is pretty much dead. There are hardly any players left.

On the other hand, Zandrodum seems to be where it's at but I can't find any Doom 1 Shareware deathmatches of the classic 8 maps.

I feel like a relic. In the Zdaemon forum I was active from 2004 to 2012. The nostalgia.....

>>4733809
Any other old Zdaemon players here? I used the names [LDF]One_Man, GLUM (terrible admins deleted that one over some [DX] trolling), and others. I'm getting back into it now but it takes time for players to show up.

>>4733809
Multiplayer community is dying, it's mostly just the oldies along with a few new people every year. The singleplayer community has little overlap or interest, and most attempts to change this fail.
It's currently just the veterans hanging with each other, trying to keep it alive.

>>4733798
For official releases? Hexen imo.
For mods? Vanilla? GZDoom? Spritework? Total conversions?
There's a lot out there.

>>4733813
>Any other old Zdaemon players here?
I thought Zdeamon is dead like skulltag...
>>4733818
>Multiplayer community is dying
Only if you are a Zdeamon fan or hahaha Odamex one.
Zandronum seems to be doing fine,if your looking for multiplayer Zandro is your only option it seems

which youtube channels showcase doom or any retro game mods besides icaruslives?

>>4734019
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU9IqAljGhCXPj9RcZ-RlsA

This guy is small but getting started.

>>4733818
Zandronum actually has more players than before.

>>4734032
I've only watched a few videos and so far, he doesn't seem to describe most of a mod's features, even if they're not that missable.

Hello /vr/! I was thinking about doing a super micro-cosmetic update for The Space Pirate that would fix some things up and maybe add some minor flourishes. It wouldn't really be a whole brand new version with all the features I had done for the MK2 release (check out the ZDoom forums if you're wondering why), but would kind of be like a "rom hack" sorta tweak. Would anybody be interested in that?

>>4733739
I really enjoyed playing with Doombuilder, and making pretty and detailed environments (ostensibly), but I realized I actually didn't really have any grasp on level design theory or making good encounters, so I gave up on it.

Maybe I should give it a new go someday, now that I'm older and actually understand encounters and stuff.

>>4734105
I honestly don't see why not. I mean even just fixing up minor things and releasing it could go a long way in garnering interest.

Comical clothing change spin succeeded

>>4734156
Just imagine if that spin did damage to the enemies. Taz Doom.

>>4729031
TNT also had Romero's name written in blood, that awful teleporter puzzle and what i once assumed were "invisible" Arachnotrons.

>>4734174
that teleporter puzzle doesn't even really qualify as much

>>4734174
Romero's name is just an easteregg, and the teleporter puzzle in Last Call is just that, a puzzle.

Nothing of this is really world building or lore.

>>4734156
Certainly brings a new meaning to spinning the thread!

>>4732806
I Could not wait so I made everyone else wait instead

>???

>5.5 hour outage
>again
can we get a site admin that actually knows how to admin

>>4734105
what do you have to lose?

Another 6 hour downtime.

Where do you people go when the website is down?

>>4734265
Let me just get my friend Graf.

>>4734265

It was this cock spanker's fault >>4734197

>>4734272
Yes! Let's put Mommy Rachael in charge of another piece of critical infrastructure!