HEAVEN OR HELL: LET'S ROCK

[Anonymous No.4705029]

what is the verdict on this?

Dracula X vs Rondo of Blood

[Anonymous No.4705034]

Rondo's had its dick sucked for long enough.
It's time to recognize Dracula X is the superior game. Even if that means some of us have to admit a game on a Nintendo system is good.

[Anonymous No.4705039]

>>4705034
Makes no sense...

[Anonymous No.4705050]

>>4705034
elaborate how X is superior.

i really wana explore which game is the best on their own merits.

[Anonymous No.4705149]

Rondo is superior but Dracula X is still a good game. They are both pretty good classicvanias.

[Anonymous No.4705160]

>>4705149
other than the sweet pixel art and animation, what is X left with ?

without all those rad features and presentation with the anime style cutscenes, stripped down levels and lack of branching paths, you get a pretty vanilla game with some bullshit game design that is really fucking unfair.

[Anonymous No.4705162]

X is only superior to those who only had a SNES growing up and are riding on nostalgia

[Anonymous No.4705168]

>>4705162
Rondo is only superior to those who only had internet growing up and are riding on nostalgia reading Castlevania dungeon reviews

[Anonymous No.4705171]

>>4705034
>Rondo's had its dick sucked for long enough.
Honestly this, fuck the way people overrates Rondo.
Fine, it's a good game. But it isn't the be-all end-all of Castlevania games, far from it.

[Anonymous No.4705174]

>>4705149
This, honestly. Rondo is just better but both are good.

[Anonymous No.4705180]

>>4705162
This is how it went for me
>14 years old
>get Dracula X SNES for cheap
>it was my second Castlevania game after the first one, loved it
>later on, find out it's supposed to be a botched port of a superior japan-only CD-ROM game
>wonder for years how much I missed by only played the "dumber down version"
>finally get to play it on emulators in the mid 00s
>it's actually a completely different game
>it's very nice but also easier than Dracula X and Castlevania 1

I ended up liking both, for different reasons, but I can't say if one is superior to the other. Rondo has the impressive CD-quality soundtrack, but the SNES game's music is really good too, so I dunno.

[Anonymous No.4705184]

its for me to accept X as a good classicvania since it came after castlevania 4... the one that made so many improvements to the playability.

losing directional whipping and having pedestrian level design makes me hard to accept X as a good one.

[Anonymous No.4705189]

>>4705184
No other Castlevania game could do the controls like Castlevania iv because the programmer of that game went on to form Treasure along with other guys.
Bloodlines tried to implement diagonal whipping but the execution wasn't as tight.
Rondo and Dracula X both added their own new mechanics to the formula, like the item crash or the backflip.

[Anonymous No.4705195]

X was just your average bullshit difficulty CV game that recycled some of Rondo's assets. The level design and scope are just not comparable.

[Anonymous No.4705197]

>>4705195
What about it was "bullshit"? You can overcome everything in the game with skill, anon.

[Anonymous No.4705201]

what always boggled my mind was how amazing richter was in symphony.

he had so many moves and could do all sorts of awesome actions. it was so hard for me to go into rondo and X since he was missing all these abilities and had no way to unlock them.

[Anonymous No.4705205]

>>4705197
Same can be said of I Wanna Be The Guy

[Anonymous No.4705210]

>>4705201
It's basically a different character, you can run, move in the air (WAY more than in Rondo or IV, Richter on SOTN can move in the air almost like Alucard, his weight is like a feather).
It's a shame it's not very fun to play as Richter on SOTN (or as Maria), since the game is designed to play as Alucard. When you play SOTN as Richter you notice how really different it is to classicvania, there's almost no platforming.

[Anonymous No.4705221]

>>4705029
They're both different games and are good in their own right. If you want a challenge play Dracula X if you want to better level design play Rondo.

These VS. threads are retarded

[Anonymous No.4705228]

>>4705221
some people are making good points.

i mean- X really is different, yeah... but that also means it is unoriginal for recycling so much of the sprites and has shitty level design.

other than the graphics and music, what does X have for it?

it has less features than dracula's curse, a NES game.

[Anonymous No.4705237]

>>4705029
X is a botched remake, and one of the worst Classicvanias, if not the worst. Rondo is not only one of the best Classicvanias, but also one of the best side-scrolling action games of all time. There is no contest. Rondo all the way.

[Anonymous No.4705240]

>>4705228
My bad I didn't go through this thread before I posted. Usually these threads delve into shitflinging.

Basically the only thing X has over Rondo is the difficulty.

[Anonymous No.4705250]

>>4705237
>X is a botched remake
It's a different game. New levels completely.
>>4705228
>shitty level design
why?

[Anonymous No.4705251]

>>4705237
If Rondo didn’t exist, how does X stand on its own merits?

[Anonymous No.4705263]

>>4705237
>but also one of the best side-scrolling action games of all time
Holy shit, you're delusional.
Dracula X and Rondo aren't even all that different to each other, Dracula X is like a sort of sequel/new adventure based on Rondo, so how can you have such extreme polarized view on these games? One being the worst classicvania and the other being the best sidescroller of all time, come on.

[Anonymous No.4705423]

>>4705263
>the worst classicvania
So are we honestly considering Simon’s Quest a Metroidvania? Because that’s easily the worst “classic” Castlevania.

[Anonymous No.4705475]

>>4705423
Simon’s Quest isn’t that bad.
It has many obnoxious qualities, but the redacted version totally fixed everything wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.4705491]

>>4705423
Worst classicvania goes to Haunted Castle or the first GB CV game, The Adventure.
If we're not counting the home computer ports of the first game, of course.
I think DX is far from being the worst classicvania, I think it ranks on the same tier as Bloodlines, IV and X68k. So, pretty good.
I'd say Rondo is a bit better than those, but still not the best, that's III.

[Anonymous No.4705493]

>>4705034
>Even if that means some of us have to admit a game on a Nintendo system is good.

there aren't any pc engine fanboys, except that one faggot Tatsujin who forces the "obey pce" meme. just rondo fanboys

Rondo is still a really good game on an underrated system. And it does true branching paths unlike Castlevania 3

[Anonymous No.4705839]

Chad 16 bits vs Virgin 8 bits.

[Anonymous No.4705860]

>>4705839
If we really wanna get technical, Rondo's strengths rely in having thousands of animation frames in-game. The PC Engine could make speedy games, but the graphics were mainly efficient. Very few games actually reached the level of high-end snes graphics (Legend of Xanadu I and II is probably the absolute top)

Dracula XX definitely has the better backgrounds, though I can't say they match the style of the sprites. It's also unfortunate just how many enemies were cut.

[Anonymous No.4705863]

>>4705839
The building looks better on the NEC version.

[Anonymous No.4706623]

Is it me or does the animation in X look smoother than Rondo’s?

[Anonymous No.4706707]

>>4705184
IV is so weak though, Bloodlines is much better

[Anonymous No.4706718]

>>4705029

Rondo. by far. Anyone that tells you that Dracula X is better is being a contrarian

[Anonymous No.4706732]

I'll say Rondo because of slightly better levels and bosses, but it's close.

I don't understand loving Rondo and ranking Drac X as among the worst Classicvanias. Rondos a lityle faster, but they play and look more similar than any other 2 CVs aside from maybe CV and CV3.

Dracula X is easier and less cheap than CV3, I never understood the cheapness/too hard complaint.

[Anonymous No.4707462]

>>4706707
Both are great games, anon, stop being a console warrior.

[Anonymous No.4707656]

The verdict is that a game that was hacked to pieces and shoehorned onto a weaker platform cannot possibly compare to the original. I bet OP prefers the Gameboy version of Donkey Country as well.

[Anonymous No.4707660]

>>4705029
This is like the 20th thread you have made on this subject in a month. Are you a crazy person?

[Anonymous No.4708150]

>>4705184
IV RUINED the controls

[Anonymous No.4708168]

>>4708150
It didn't, and it's also a lie that the levels weren't designed with the diagonal input in mind, lots of enemies coming at you at an angle.
However, the fact IV's controls are so good doesn't mean one shouldn't be able to appreciate Rondo/Dracula X's, which also have their own good things like the backflip or the moonwalk.