Removed / Cut Content Thread

[Anonymous No.4697009]

Post your rarest and best footage/content that we never got to play

[Anonymous No.4697037]

[Anonymous No.4697041]

>>4697009
what level is that supposed to lead to?

[Anonymous No.4697043]

>>4697041
idk, go track down the beta cart and tell me

[Anonymous No.4697048]

[Anonymous No.4697050]

>>4697048
dont remind me

[Anonymous No.4697052]

>>4697048
>>4697050

[Anonymous No.4697059]

>>4697041
Judging by the location and the fact that Mario is descending slightly when headed towards the painting, I'd say it's a beta Tiny-Huge Island.

[Anonymous No.4697070]

this weird texture always intrigued me

[Anonymous No.4697135]

>>4697037

CUTE
U
T
E

>All that missed out on porn

[Anonymous No.4697140]

>>4697135

[Anonymous No.4697154]

>>4697070
>wide-screen
hmmm

[Anonymous No.4697156]

>>4697140
I'd imagine they'd be din's fire and farohs wind and Nayru's love. Those powers are similar to the medallions in alttp

[Anonymous No.4697160]

left or right?

[Anonymous No.4697172]

>>4697050

This probably would've been generic but a lot more fun to play than bad fur day

[Anonymous No.4697193]

>>4697160
Well, one is a properly designed and fleshed out location, and the other is a hastily assembled proof of concept mock-up that is just a blurry floor texture and some simple gravestone models plus a prototype Poe model. It does have atmosphere in its simplicity, though.

People would probably pick the left one because it appeals to nostalgia and a sense of mystery that provokes the imagination, like the prototype forest screenshots or this one. There probably isn't anything there, but it evokes the feeling of a whole wide exciting world just out of your reach.

[Anonymous No.4697204]

>>4697160

Well I'd sell the right one definitely more, the left looks so barren, but the unfinished low poly look has its charm, it's also the dark gloomy look, it looks more mysterious, you just want to explore those simple unfinished beta worlds and see what you might find...

[Anonymous No.4697208]

>>4697193
>simple gravestone models
they are far more simple in the final game

[Anonymous No.4697250]

[Anonymous No.4697259]

[Anonymous No.4697776]

It'd be nice to try one of these OOT prototypes.

[Anonymous No.4697783]

>>4697208
Stop smoking crack.

[Anonymous No.4697786]

Waiting for Mario 64 and seeing pics on magazines is one of the most memorable things for me regarding beta and prototypes.
I remember in a Club Nintendo magazine they said the door behind Mario (on the pic bottom-right) was a Bowser trap, but I think in the final game that door just leads you somewhere else. Still that room looks different on the prototype.

[Anonymous No.4697813]

>>4697250
The polygonal Hyrule Town has a dreamy look to it. Reminds me of Quest.

[Anonymous No.4697818]

[Anonymous No.4697841]

>>4697160
The terrain model is pretty much the same with slopes and everything. But I think it used to be in the middle of Hyrule, not after Kakriko village.

You wouldn't find the Shadow Temple behind it...

The original Shadow Temple used to be the Bottom of the Well.

And most of the Shadow Temple dungeon was actually the Wind Temple, so I guess the Wind Medallion power was that floating thing that was transformed into the Floating Boots...

The Wind Temple is actually wind themed.

[Anonymous No.4697847]

>>4697818
lordy mammy

[Anonymous No.4697852]

>>4697841
The Shadow Temple is actually wind themed.*

I guess they bring this concept back at BotW...

Because Lost Woods has a wind theme into it... the mysterious wind creating illusions and stuff.

That's pretty much what part of the Shadow Temple is about...

Everything was swapped, we'll never know how the game originally played.

[Anonymous No.4697913]

>>4697786
>I remember in a Club Nintendo magazine they said the door behind Mario (on the pic bottom-right) was a Bowser trap

There's a video showing the insides of that door, and it's not anything trap related, just a regular hallway which I think was the same as OP.

[Anonymous No.4697923]

>>4697913
Scratch that, go to 5:15.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSNdyRx4zoc

[Anonymous No.4697925]

>>4697913
Scratch that, go to 6:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSNdyRx4zoc

[Anonymous No.4697942]

>>4697070
The castle can be fucked, who knew?

[Anonymous No.4697945]

Castlevania IV beta had different bosses, level select and two player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fa4qSyDAHw

[Anonymous No.4697947]

>>4697172
Either that or it would've been like Fur Day, complete with sex jokes.

[Anonymous No.4697956]

Halo was originally going to be 3rd person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSq-Jd5c73I

[Anonymous No.4698009]

>>4697956
I'm not sure if the pre-Xbox versions of Halo are allowed here. While what we got isn't /vr/ Halo was in development for a few years.

[Anonymous No.4698142]

>>4697160
Right works better for the game we got, but left would have been perfect for a more open game like a 3D successor to the original Zelda 1.

[Anonymous No.4698176]

>>4697786
I feel this so much, news on N64 and even early Gamecube material had such a weird feeling to it, and I didn't really know what to expect from the games even after seeing all the screenshots.

With youtube trailers and all that it feels like the mystique is gone, not to mention that developers, and Nintendo especially, tend to show off only things that are in the final game ( the exceptions probably being Zelda, what with that Wii U tech demo, and the first traielr for BOTW supposedly being actual gameplay footage..bullshit )

[Anonymous No.4698309]

[Anonymous No.4698426]

>>4697913
Didn't this door went to the third floor?

Maybe the bowser trap was actually the infinity stairway.

[Anonymous No.4698480]

>>4697193
>a sense of mystery that provokes the imagination, like the prototype forest screenshots or this one. There probably isn't anything there, but it evokes the feeling of a whole wide exciting world just out of your reach.

I remember those pics of Link in the big, vast town in those days. Like this one: >>4697250

It seemed huge to me as a kid and I could scarcely imagine what it was gong to be like to get lost in that place.

[Anonymous No.4698512]

>>4697009

Sorry, if I am ignorant about this, but I swear I played the beta version of super mario 64 in a store in somewhere in 1996. Can anyone confirm of there were indeed beta copies out for playing in stores? I swear I dis not dream this.
Okay, sorry if I am completely ignorant about this but was the beta version of super mario 64 ever on display in stores for playing? I swear I played it in 1996 in a store somewhere and it was indeed the beta version. Can amyone confirm this?

[Anonymous No.4698529]

I always had it in my head that the stained glass on Peach's castle in SM64 was a secret painting.

[Anonymous No.4698539]

>>4698512
Some stores did have demos of earlier versions yes

[Anonymous No.4698616]

>>4697250
>>4698480
It's neat as a prototype, but it probably would've been tedious to traverse if it were as huge as it appears in the beta screenshots and had roughly the same amount of content as the final version.

[Anonymous No.4698691]

>>4698616
True, but as a child my imagination was not concerned with such things

I just wanted pic related:

[Anonymous No.4698716]

[Anonymous No.4698748]

>>4698716
I wonder what the obelisk was for.

[Anonymous No.4698750]

>>4698691
I want a Zelda game with that guy's art direction.

[Anonymous No.4698783]

>>4697009
3D was new technology back then. Mario 64 started as just a tech demo of a talking mario head floating in space.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkOlJ2a-TQM

[Anonymous No.4698794]

>>4698783
then they built princess toad peach's castle. notice the moat door is not added yet.

[Anonymous No.4698798]

>>4698794
>>4697070
it appears to be a compass. Mario 64 had minimaps like zelda at one point

[Anonymous No.4698805]

>>4698798

[Anonymous No.4698807]

>>4698805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys723F9wiwU

[Anonymous No.4698808]

[Anonymous No.4698812]

i want to explore beta defino isle

[Anonymous No.4698816]

[Anonymous No.4698823]

>>4698816
say something nice to beta yoshi

[Anonymous No.4698862]

[Anonymous No.4698869]

[Anonymous No.4698901]

[Anonymous No.4698905]

[Anonymous No.4698974]

>>4698750
So do I. I have since I was a kid and I first read the Link to the Past player's guide (where this artwork comes from).

[Anonymous No.4698989]

Do entire cut games count as cut content? There was a port of Resident Evil being made for the GBC. I really wanted to play it.

[Anonymous No.4698990]

There is no picture or footage of it at all (pic related is fanart), but there was a Twin peaks RPG in the works for the NES.

[Anonymous No.4699025]

>>4698805
>>4698807
Looks strangely similar to the minimap that map that appeared in Mario64 DS.
Reused code?

[Anonymous No.4699027]

>>4698989
This ROM was leaked in the internet, anon.

[Anonymous No.4699031]

>>4698823
Oh sheit.
Why was the sprite art in Mario World so janky?
At least they fixed yoshi, why did everything look so weird compared to mario 3?

[Anonymous No.4699034]

>>4699031
Peach looks a lot better than her SMB3 incarnation though.
I think the spritework for SMW was great, although I think it was weird that the koopalings and Bowser himself had fewer colors than the SMB3 ones. I still like how they look though, especially Bowser, SMW bowser is still the most badass.
Another thing that always puzzled me was why did Ludwig had white hair in the games, but blue hair in the official art.

[Anonymous No.4699110]

>>4698823
I really like his design.

[Anonymous No.4699160]

>>4697818
This one was such a tragedy. Fuck 3D Rayman.

[Anonymous No.4699281]

[Anonymous No.4699287]

>>4697009
I always wondered what the big castle-esque was in the alttp dark world as a kid.

[Anonymous No.4699334]

>>4699281
>>4697009
nice

[Anonymous No.4699346]

>>4697786
That texture with the bullet bill is so cool.

[Anonymous No.4699363]

>>4699027
Is it the full game?

[Anonymous No.4699367]

>>4699363
Yes, you'll need to download a patch that allows you to beat certain parts, but it's almost the complete game.

[Anonymous No.4699381]

>>4699287
That's Ganon's Tower atop Death Mountain's left peak, with Turtle Rock on the right. You can even see the bridge connecting them.

[Anonymous No.4699385]

[Anonymous No.4699387]

>>4699381
Fuck, I can't believe I never thought of that.

[Anonymous No.4699404]

>>4699025
It's basically the same map, why would it not look similar?

[Anonymous No.4699454]

>>4699381
isnt turtle rock south of that?

[Anonymous No.4699480]

>>4699454
Ganon's Tower is on the west peak, Turtle Rock is on the east.

[Anonymous No.4699502]

>>4699480
but isnt that view facing north and above the map?

[Anonymous No.4699523]

>>4699502
I guess the perspective is a bit weird and of course Death Mountain is closer to the pyramid than the background there would lead you to believe, but that is certainly what it is. When you beat Aghanim, that's where bat-Ganon flies away from before crashing into the pyramid. They even have a speck of light shining through to indicate the area beneath little bridge connecting the peaks.

[Anonymous No.4699540]

>>4697841
>>4697852
if youve played twilight princess then rest assured that you've played the original TRUE and HONEST version of ocarina of time.

[Anonymous No.4699561]

>>4699540

[Anonymous No.4699567]

>>4699561

[Anonymous No.4699787]

>>4697160
Gee Link how come your mom lets you have two swords

[Anonymous No.4699798]

>>4698512
>>4698539
Are there are dumps of these betas out there?

[Anonymous No.4699816]

>>4699798
Not even in the current realm of possibilities. If there was one, I can assure you some collector would have probably paid thousands of dollars just to hoard it indefinitely.

[Anonymous No.4699832]

>ywn get to hear Mario's psychopathic screams of pain
It's all I ever wanted

[Anonymous No.4699936]

>>4697009
Levels 1, 2, 3, 32, 35, 37, and 38 in Mario 64 level select have been removed. Those were supposed to be beta levels that didn't appear in the final game.

[Anonymous No.4700041]

>>4698539
Have any proof that's the case for Mario 64? I know that some store demo carts of DK64 and Majora's Mask contained unfinished versions, but I've never heard anything about that for Mario 64.

[Anonymous No.4700045]

[Anonymous No.4700057]

>>4699567
is there more to this, and/or sauce

[Anonymous No.4700124]

>>4700057
>>4699567

okay seriously who made this and why is it so hard to find!? This is literally the best analysis I've read of Zelda 64 beta stuff in all my time on the internet, but all traces of it seem to have been wiped from the internet? Apparently it was from a twitter (@thehyliadojo) which is gone. This is the only other scan I can find. Does anyone have more? This is fascinating.

[Anonymous No.4700146]

>>4699160
This is from the OG Rayman... Y'know, the one on Atari Jaguar.

>Also, I liked the 3D Rayman games (the only exception are the Rabbids.

[Anonymous No.4700240]

>>4700124
>a Tingle Tuner in the shape of a Gameboy Color

Wut?

[Anonymous No.4700257]

>>4700124
found another

[Anonymous No.4700267]

>>4698808
>To this day Kamek has still never been playable in Mario Kart

Fucking why, there's so many semi-important Mario characters they could be using, but instead we get shit like Honey Queen, Wiggler, Pink Gold Peach, Mecha Waluigi, Baby Donkey Kong Junior, and Black Shadow.

[Anonymous No.4700268]

>>4698812
The giant strollin' stu is what intrigues me the most.

[Anonymous No.4700278]

>>4700257

[Anonymous No.4700320]

>>4700124
>>4699567
>>4699561
>>4699540

It's pretty cool, but I think the original order was like this:

There was no Young Link...

There was no Forest Temple neither...

I think it used to be like that:
1- Link starts at Hyrule Town. (that's how it was supposed to be).

2- He had a friend in the city, could be Saria or other NPC, we used the Ocarina to talk telepathically with this friend. This friend would guide us through the game. (Note how Saria's song is useless in the game, it was the original Ocarina's purpose).

3- We'd gather the three spirit stones.

4- The first three dungeons used to be different.

5- Deku Tree was supposed to be the first dungeon from Zelda 1, not an alive being.

6- Dodongo's cavern used to be Turtle Rock. (check beta images)

7- Jabu Jabu wasn't a dungeon at all, he'd transport us to Zora's place. But I don't what it was supposed to be instead. But I think the cavern used to be dungeon. Something like the Zelda TP Water Dungeon.

8- We'd find the Master Sword in the Lost Woods, it was in after the stairway that leads to the Forest Temple, leading to the Temple of the Light chamber. (note that the Temple of Light was added later, the translation reflects it, it should be called Light Temple)

9- Shields were breakable, that's why it had a number by its side, that was its durability. (check beta images)

10- The first temple could be the fire one, you'd get the Din's fire power using the fire medallion alone and the Fire Arrows combined with the bow.

[Anonymous No.4700332]

>>4700320
11- You'd go to the Ice Temple, melting its ice with the Din's fire. The Ice Power was the Ice Arrows and the Song of Storms. The Ice medallion was transformed into a song. It used to be the Ice Cavern, but was later changed into the Water Temple.

12- You'd go to the Spirit Temple by filling the oasis next to it with the the power of the Ice Medallion.

14- I think that Kaepora Gaebora used to be responsible to take you to the Wind Temple, not sure how you'd trigger the event, but it was probably by using the Spirit Medallion, by controlling the owl. It was something like the canon of Zelda TP. There's an actor for a Spirit Arrow.

13- You'd open the Shadow Temple by using the Wind Medallion inside the windmill. The wind power was the floating boots, there's an actor on the code for Wind Arrows.

14- The Shadow Temple was overhauled, they transformed the Wind Temple into it. The original Shadow temple was the Bottom of the Well. The medallion would turn things into night.

15- And finally, you'd use the power of the Shadow medallion to open the Light Temple. The medallion would turn things into day. It'd be used in the puzzle rooms where light was needned, like the mirror's room, and the rooms with the sleeping sun thing.

16- I think there was also an Earth Temple, but it was scrapped, they started its delevopment, it used to be the Gerudo's Training grounds. There's a beta image with of this area with a map and a compass. I supposed that the Medallion power was an earthquake, the arrow power could be something with explosion capabilities.

[Anonymous No.4700347]

>>4700240
>he never found the long lost blue Tingle Brother

[Anonymous No.4700348]

After all these years I'm still fascinated by beta OoT images. No other game gets my imagination rolling when I think about how different it could've been

[Anonymous No.4700353]

>>4700320
>>4700332

17- After Miyamoto had entered in the project, Goron's city and Gerudo's town were created...

18- Young Link was supposed to visit Gerudo town and use the Slingshot to knockout the Gerudo... it wasn't supposed to be done with adult Link. That's why we can't kill the Gerudos with the Bow.

19- You could paint your clothes with a variety of colors, once you had the medallion power within you, you could access cold/hot areas without problem. That's why the text says the sage power was "added into him".

20- I also think that the Iron Boots power could be related with the "Earth Medallion", that's why link sink into water.

21- You'd only find weapons inside the big treasure chests... the Deku stick probably used to function like the TWW Deku Stick, you couldn't load it from the inventory.

Also, most of the problematic/convoluted areas for someone to advance in the game came from this overhaul, like the bombing the rolling Goron so you can get the Goron's Tunic or giving a fish to Jabu Jabu so you could enter inside his belly...

Also, the Shadow Medallion ability could be the "Lens of Truth" ability.

[Anonymous No.4700373]

>>4698529
The big rumor in my school was that its the door to star world. We would tell each other all kinds of bullshit criteria to meet in order to get through. By the end, everyone had been there but only when playing alone and you had to agree with everyone to not look like a liar. Kids are retarded.

[Anonymous No.4700378]

>>4700278
>>4700257

Now we're just getting into game theory territory.

[Anonymous No.4700386]

[Anonymous No.4700589]

[Anonymous No.4700802]

>>4699567
>>4699798
>>4699816
sorry, went to bed. here's the rest

[Anonymous No.4700812]

>>4700320
>>4700332
>>4700353
where'd you find all this?

[Anonymous No.4700828]

>>4700812
Actor withing the game, deducing, reading the interviews, stuff left behind, internet discussions...

The Temple order is probably because Zelda OoT has a strange pacing when accessing dungeons...

Some stuff went to newer games too, like painting clothes.

[Anonymous No.4700850]

>>4698823
it reminds me of something disney for some reason

[Anonymous No.4700856]

>>4700802
That's interesting, that would make sense for TP being OoT Ura...

But they went on and tried to create the "golden land" thing, it didn't work and it became the Twili World...

And there's also the wolf thing...

I guess they tried to make it different, but just broke the game.

Maybe, originally, OoT wasn't about Time Travel, but about traveling to the Golden Land, Like Zelda III.

Also, it'd connect to Zelda III better, because there'd be 7 sages, that would tie in with the 7 Zelda II towns that have the name of the OoT sages, and also would tie with the 7 sages descendants from Zelda III.

And not only that, but the school of magic would be perfect with Fire/Ice, Light/Dark, Wind/Earth and Spirit, that's the junction of all elements.

[Anonymous No.4700860]

>>4700856
Since, in the beginning, there was no Gerudo, Kokiri or Gorons... they were all Hylians, That'd tie everything perfectly.

[Anonymous No.4701184]

>>4699281
Gotta love the fact that "Super Mario 64" was a place holder name.

[Anonymous No.4701417]

>>4697135
am I going to have to solve this problem

[Anonymous No.4701431]

?

[Anonymous No.4701458]

>>4699287
Aghanim flies from there and crashes into the pyramid once you beat him at the tower.

[Anonymous No.4701459]

>>4700386
Bulbapedia has an entire list of Beta stuff here: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_unused_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_character_designs

[Anonymous No.4701549]

>>4701459
They fucked up a lot of Pokémon designs, the concept art dragonair/dragonight PKMN green version actually makes sense.

It's all strange in the american Red Blue and recent gens. It doesn't look like to be the same chain of evolution.

[Anonymous No.4701848]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l123vCUALDU

[Anonymous No.4701876]

>>4701848
https://youtu.be/ZfqUiJnSNQY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z_cTsKHFDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z_cTsKHFDQ

[Anonymous No.4702195]

[Anonymous No.4702197]

[Anonymous No.4702198]

[Anonymous No.4702219]

>>4702195

This looks pretty aesthetic

[Anonymous No.4702225]

Doesn't Aonuma always say that every Zelda game that had cut content had its cut content recycled for some newer entry? Do you feel that's a lazy excuse or do they genuinely take entire unused dungeon layouts and copypaste them into newer entries? It's understandable that they would use "concepts from previous entries" but there's a difference between "if we add all of the cut content to the older zelda, we get a sky palace and some other shit that we've done already" to "if we add all of said content, you're going to end up literally with a low poly arbiter's grounds"

[Anonymous No.4702226]

>>4702197
To be fair they produce like 2-3 kirby games every year, it's not much of a loss at this point

[Anonymous No.4702270]

>>4702225
I think they reused it, but the dungeons were never 100% completed.

TWW is missing at least 4 dungeons...

The dungeon that you get the third pearl, in game it's explained that Ganondorf has destroyed the island and froze the world in night (it's really, really badly explained) and then you find the bombs inside Tetra's ship.

I also really believe that there should be a Ghost Ship dungeon, that's where you'd find the Skull Hammer. It's so cool the way you find the Ghost ship... but in the end it has nothing but a Triforce shard... amd also there's a Ghost Ship in Phantom Hourglass.

And then there's the Ice and Volcano island with their own assets and stuff...

Originally you were supposed to revisit Hyrule, I guess that's true, I do think that we'd be able to beat all the original dungeons and stuff. So we'd be able to complete the original "school of magic" system, which would now include the excluded Earth and Wind dungeons from OoT.

[Anonymous No.4702285]

>>4698309
where's this from?

[Anonymous No.4702296]

>>4702219
i was really excited about it back int he day, and I didnt even know about the other mother games

[Anonymous No.4702931]

>>4702195

This looks a lot better than the actual prototype that was plalyable. Like, it's more in the spirit of EarthBound. Tthe prototype looked more like it wanted to be realistic.

[Anonymous No.4702983]

>>4698798
>>4698805
>>4698807
proof that super mario 64 is an open world rpg

[Anonymous No.4703005]

>>4701549
Looking through the index list of Gen 1 Pokemon (which is pretty much the chronological list of their design) you can see that Dragonite was created and put into the game some time before its preevolutions. It leads me to believe that making them all the same family was an afterthought for the sake of having more 3-stage lines.

[Anonymous No.4703017]

>>4703005
Oh, same thing with Wartortle/Blastoise. I'm almost certain there was a scrapped Pokemon (index number 181) that Wartortle was originally supposed to evolve into before they realized they already had a boss tortoise design from the early stages of development. Blastoise doesn't have the squirrelly features its preevos have and differs significantly in skin tone and belly patterns.

[Anonymous No.4703140]

>>4698750
>>4698974

My dudes. I thought I was the only one. Zelda II sequel with BotW's engine and that art style brought to life would be the best Zelda of all time.

[Anonymous No.4703183]

>>4698990
I would play the shit out of that.

[Anonymous No.4703327]

>>4699367
Holy fuck

[Anonymous No.4703436]

from dk 64

[Anonymous No.4703840]

>>4703005
The Dragonite from Pokémon Green has an "snake like" design, just like the concept art Dragonair.

Dragonair "ears" is transformed into the Dragonite Wings... it fits.

But they didn't follow the original concept and broke it.

But yeah, I do think that, at up until mid development, there was no concept of evolution.

Each version would have a "strong rare pokémon" that ressembled a weaker version of it. Or they'd have counterparts...

But a lot of designs are like that, Haunter is much more "gassy" on the Green version the he is on american Red/Blue...

The artist kind of ruined some of Pokémon designs.

[Anonymous No.4703897]

>>4699034
Wendy looks racists in SMW

[Anonymous No.4703987]

>>4698807
Those fucking eyebrows

[Anonymous No.4704032]

[Anonymous No.4704050]

>>4697009
Enough with the Mario & Zelda shit... This is something you never heard of: An early trailer for Re-Volt, found in the game, Machines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JSDwBg4KrI
>Fun fact: The Lap indicator & the green "Zig Zag" car were both cut.

[Anonymous No.4704057]

[Anonymous No.4704095]

>>4697050
As much of a curiosity as it is, Conker's BFD was an amazing game. The only title we have to go on was the Game Boy Color version and it was horseshit.

[Anonymous No.4704225]

>>4698748
Palm Tree?

[Anonymous No.4704252]

>>4703140
We can dream.

[Anonymous No.4704259]

[Anonymous No.4704268]

>>4704057

you can play it with a code

[Anonymous No.4704269]

>>4704095

it's all style and no substance

[Anonymous No.4704270]

>>4700386

always wanted to play that demo

[Anonymous No.4704271]

[Anonymous No.4704275]

>>4704269
>all style and no substance

[Anonymous No.4704280]

>>4698805
>>4698807
>tfw you will never ever play that unfinished version of Mario 64
Why even live, bros?

[Anonymous No.4704284]

>>4704280

Nintendo should at least make a video showing off some of these beta versions like rare did with their betas

[Anonymous No.4704286]

[Anonymous No.4704290]

this egg texture is still in the files

[Anonymous No.4704315]

It's been several months since faggot Frank dumped this.
>still waiting for upload

[Anonymous No.4704356]

>>4699540
>>4699561
>>4699567
>>4700124
>>4700257
>>4700278
>>4700802
>>4700812
This was from r/zelda I think. The twitter account is still around, just inactive. https://twitter.com/hyliadojo

[Anonymous No.4704618]

I think Nintendo is missing out on a lot of money, they should release "From the Vault" series of games? on the Switch that show prototype, beta artwork, concept art, cut content, original scripts etc. from their popular franchises including fully and semi-playable incarnations of them.

[Anonymous No.4704708]

>>4704618
Some people would definitely buy it, I know I would, but I honestly don't think the market is that huge. You might even get people who would totally miss the point and complain that the included games are buggy or can't be completed.

[Anonymous No.4704762]

>>4704290
>SM64 mightve been intended to have a post game involving a ridable yoshi
>They didn't have the time to implement it and we just get the extra lives easter egg
It hurts

[Anonymous No.4704772]

>>4704708
Yeah, there's already people complaining about artbooks or stuff like the hyrule historia.

Personally more than scraps I would definitely like to have a third game in the "zelda 64 series" or whatever you want to call it. Already when I was a kid playing OoT I wanted more content, more dungeons and more shit overall. The Ura Zelda announcement on some weird magazine I used to buy at that time that used to report on japanese upcoming titles made me real excited. To be honest, while it wasn't what I expected, Majora's Mask ended being up probably my favorite zelda anyways.

I saw videos of different romhacks that tried to reimagine what was the extra content or the early betas, but with so much time and dedication put into those, isn't there any decent OoT or MM romhack out there?

[Anonymous No.4704808]

>>4704275
That creature in the cake reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCEDjEp60aE

[Anonymous No.4704943]

>>4704708
We're not the seekrit club that you may think we are, youtube videos about cut and beta content are somewhat normie.

[Anonymous No.4706047]

Kirby 64 was apparently going to be a bigger game on the 64DD

[Anonymous No.4706072]

>>4704618
I remember hearing rumors that the Playstation 2 Darkstalkers Collection was going to include the location test build of Night Warriors, since it was somewhat infamous (players still tell stories about how broken Donovan was), but in the end it wasn't included.

[Anonymous No.4706074]

>>4704943
Don't get me wrong, I agree that there are certainly people out there who love this kind of thing, but is it enough of a market for Nintendo to find it worth going through the effort of gathering a sufficient number of old builds, packaging them up in a marketable form, and selling them for profit? My feeling would be perhaps not, but I could certainly be wrong (and happily so).

Do we have any instances of companies actually doing this kind of thing? I know there were some free early versions of Shadow Warrior officially released recently and Treasure included the store sample prototype of Gunstar Heroes in a collection with the retail game, but I'm drawing a blank for others.

[Anonymous No.4706081]

>>4706074
When people said for years that Nintendo should make its own version of video game leveling tools, everyone said "THERE'S NO MARKET FOR THAT!" and then Super Mario Maker was a massive success. There's just something mysterious about Nintendo, and people eat that shit up.

[Anonymous No.4706104]

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[Anonymous No.4707173]

Even this game still had stuff that was too much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvt-yuDpfGw

[Anonymous No.4707242]

>>4700240
>Tingle turner

[Anonymous No.4707365]

>>4704270
RIP Hobo Cop

[Anonymous No.4708006]

>>4701549
>>4703840
Do you have a picture of concept Dragonite?

[Anonymous No.4708034]

Professional game testing god here...We beta tested COD 5 competitive Coop before it existed Online or Offline. We were once like gods and we were all killed off like mortal men.

[Anonymous No.4708408]

>>4707173
Man that first one is seriously one of the most horrific "implied" things I've ever seen

[Anonymous No.4708552]

>>4704225
It was a stone spire. I remember seeing pictures of it showing the top but can't find any now.

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[Anonymous No.4709009]

>>4697259
My friend and I wanted to play as Connery in Goldeneye so bad. There was a gameshark code for it, but all it did was put Brosnan in a white suit.

[Anonymous No.4709067]

>>4699561
>Dark Link's reaction to ice arrows
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.4709394]

>>4697786
>the shadows are realistic
lol those were simpler times

[Anonymous No.4709451]

>>4704943
normal people don't watch youtube videos about videogames. all those e-celebs mentioned here? ive never watched a single youtube video that wasnt a music video.

[Anonymous No.4709452]

>>4709067
If you use game shark and fight DL with Ice Arrows you'll see that he'll react to it. It means that the Water Temple wasn't his original position, or that you'd acquite the IA before the fight.

Also, the Moblins get frozen by the IA... but by that time you don't need to enter the Forest Temple...

Things were changed a lot.

[Anonymous No.4709469]

>>4702197
Good lord, what is that one in the bottom right? I've never seen it before.

[Anonymous No.4709475]

>>4704772
Still mad they never let Grezzo make an original game in the same engine after they finished Majora's Mask. Shit woulda been rad.

[Anonymous No.4709480]

>>4706072
On a similar note, Sonic Mega Collection was supposed to include the original 1990 Tokyo Toy Show demo of Sonic, the one with 7 layers of parallax and the monster enemies. No one at SEGA could find the ROM though. Fuckin' tragic, really. I hope we get video footage of it some day, at least.

[Anonymous No.4709482]

>>4709475
Heard something about both Grezzo working on some new Zelda and Zelda 2 being remade. Maybe that's what they'll do, but I'm not even sure.

[Anonymous No.4709483]

>>4709475
Rumor is that they're making a 3D Zelda right now. They say it's Llink's Awakening inspired, but it's more open like Breath of the Wild.

[Anonymous No.4709487]

>>4709483
>>4709482

If either of those are true I'm gonna cum everywhere.

[Anonymous No.4709489]

>>4709452
(Good) games are built modularly.
You could write: Enemy X responds to Weapon X, Weapon Y, Weapon Z and Enemy Y responds to Weapon X...ect

Or you could write Enemy Objects responds to Weapon Objects. And build upon that for specific cases.

[Anonymous No.4709501]

Fire Emblem 64

[Anonymous No.4709514]

>>4709487
Who knows, it's all rumors. The thing is that Nintendo is supposedly always developing some zelda (apparently they start development of a new zelda right before one is out) and now they have more people dedicated to it.

Call me old fashioned or something, but I would want some new 2D or 3D zelda that is not like BoTW. It's an excellent game in my opinion, but I always find joy in being able to 100% a Zelda game and I'm never good at doing that with a game that has a similar amount of content to something made by Bethesda. I always considered Zelda games to be basic adventures and not this thing where you craft shit and activate towers. ALBW is decent, but I'd like them to experiment more in a different direction.

[Anonymous No.4709583]

>>4709514
I'm down for whatever. I always like Zelda games, no matter their differences, even the DS ones.

[Anonymous No.4709601]

>>4697160
The tomb style on the left makes the game looks like if it's set in "modern" times, while the right one looks better for a fantasy world.

[Anonymous No.4709604]

>>4702270
Nice, unused Zelda stuff discussion.

Aonuma initially said TWW would have the most dungeons in the series so far (lol). Hyrule Historia indeed has quite a lot of island concepts (some repurposed for PH)
Most interestingly is a fisherman concept that would warp Link between Old Hyrule and the Great Sea surface. Old Hyrule has far more expansive geometry and detail than needed, some entrance polys in the distances in mountains and the castle, a river zone and an ice zone obscured. I'm betting the triforce quest was originally 8 dungeons in Old Hyrule instead of mandatory sidequests.

>3 dungeons (2 in final, Jabu scrapped)
>tower of gods
>hyrule castle
>at least 4 elemental dungeons (2 in final + 2 singleroom dungeons and 2 dead sages and some rooms in ToG with a doll partner)
>hyrule castle (more of the dungeon)
>8 dungeons in old hyrule
>ganon's lair
>more stealth minidungeons
>more town islands
>more side islands
>more items

If you look at the number of dungeons in TP made in the same engine it's not far fetched.
PH was a dumping ground for ideas removed from FSA and TWW.
ST had some of PH ideas, but still has content removed of its own, like a darkness realm and dungeon. Concept art in Hyrule Historia and some files in the games confirm that, and the 30-floor dungeon has some dark rooms in the top levels unlike everything else in the game - which were interestingly made optional in the Japanese version to simplify progression because the producers didn't think those belonged.

Flagship's handheld Zeldas were gutted too. An entire third game cut, instead consolidating some of the already made work as two games, and Minish Cap was considerably simplified.

[Anonymous No.4709605]

>>4709583
I don't think that's a very good mentality.

[Anonymous No.4709613]

>>4709514

If Grezzo is indeed doing the next Zelda, 3D or otherwise, i'm sure it will be smaller in scale than BOTW with a more reasonable task for compleltionists.

In any case, i'm sure we'll be getting another 2D game before the next big Nintendo developed 3D game.

[Anonymous No.4709620]

>>4709605
>Being positive isn't a good mentality
Que?

[Anonymous No.4709629]

>>4709613
Oh yeah. 2D zeldas won't die, perhaps 2D graphics on Zelda, but the perspective will still be there. I don't think Nintendo is even done with the Super Marios with 2D perspective, despite putting out mario maker.

Honestly I didn't even expect Nintendo to re-release Majora's Mask and not only did they do that, they didn't just plain release a port, they actually changed quite a few things about the game (though I would say, they did definitely fuck up a few aspects and could have improved on some tedious shit that the original had).

I do want something similar to any 3D zelda between OoT and TP.

>>4709605
Hey, I understand the hate for the DS releases a bit, maybe because of the controls (which I could never get used to), but still it's not like everytime Nintendo tries something new they fuck it up. Perhaps Triforce Heroes recently, but that's it.

[Anonymous No.4709634]

>>4709489
>>4709452
Don't forget Moblins are always around, even after you beat the Forest Temple. It's only logical they still interact with later items.

>>4709604
>Old Hyrule has far more expansive geometry and detail than needed, some entrance polys in the distances in mountains and the castle, a river zone and an ice zone obscured. I'm betting the triforce quest was originally 8 dungeons in Old Hyrule instead of mandatory sidequests.
Yeah, that would make more sense.

[Anonymous No.4709638]

>>4709620
Not what I mean, I mean liking everything that has the name of your favorite series on it, regardless of the content.

If somebody said the same thing about Sonic the Hedgehog you'd think they were a crazy person.

[Anonymous No.4709641]

>>4709638

[Anonymous No.4709649]

>>4709638
Oh, I didn't mean that. Whoops. What I should have said was:
PREVIOUSLY, I've always liked Zelda games, no matter their differences, even the DS ones.

If a new game came out, and it was junk, obviously I wouldn't be interested. Case in point; I forgot about Triforce Heroes completely until it got brought up a few posts ago.

[Anonymous No.4709665]

>>4704284
The real magic would be doing "arcade archives" releases of them, but it will never happen. They don't want to put out in-dev code that wasn't bug tested yet, who knows what could happen.

[Anonymous No.4709674]

>>4709629
>Triforce Heroes
That's not a real Zelda. Yet another Aonuma original dolled up.
Same goes for FS and FSA, initially a Marvelous, then a Zelda 3 remake, then a 4-stage-per-level game cut down to 3.

[Anonymous No.4709675]

>>4709674
I just don't understand. Wasn't Majora's Mask an Aonuma original?

[Anonymous No.4709685]

>>4709674
>Marvelous

Man, I wish Aonuma would have kept making those games instead of slowly transforming Zelda into the same sort of linear text heavy puzzle game. It looks like that might be a thing of the past now, but if he got that shit out of his system by making Marvelous games on the side, we wouldn't have had such a dark age of Zelda games between 2003 and 2013.

[Anonymous No.4709697]

>>4709604
It makes sense, the Ice Island and the Volcano Island could've been the Ice Temple and the Fire Temple. That would make sense.

I'm pretty sure that the Phantom Ship was a dungeon too... or at least a mini dungeon. I really, really think that you'd recue your sister and the kidnapped girls on that dungeon, because the Phantom Hourglass Ghost Ship dungeon has the same concept...

But then you find the girls in the Forsaken Outpost.

Sadly I think the last really completed Zelda game was Zelda III and IV...

It's sad that they opted for the chaotic development environment, thanks to that we'll never a complete Zelda game again.

[Anonymous No.4709707]

>>4709674
>Marvelous
What's that?

I don't know this game.

ALBW used to be a Z3 remake too.

[Anonymous No.4709723]

>>4709707
Look for Marvelous: Another Treasure Island on the SNES. Japan only, but it has a translation patch.

Similar graphically to ALTTP, it's a pretty peculiar puzzle filled game.

[Anonymous No.4709739]

>>4709707
Aonuma's puzzle adventure game before he worked on Zelda. It's based on the ALTTP engine but it plays nothing like Zelda, it's linear, and much more focused on puzzles and text heavy story bits.

[Anonymous No.4709742]

>>4709501
Is that a typo or a way to over-accentuate つ?

[Anonymous No.4709748]

>>4709739
Haven't played that in a while, but I did find that island where humans turned into plants to be creepy as shit.

[Anonymous No.4709759]

>>4709742
I assume it intentionally indicates a slightly prolonged, emphasized hold of the "t" sound, so yeah.

[Anonymous No.4709910]

>>4709723
>>4709739
Speaking of Marvelous, it never released properly.
It was originally a SNES CD first party with 11 minutes of TMS animated goodness and lots of voice acting.
Some of its content ended up released 4 years later scattered on three different releases (1 SNES and 2 Satellaview) and Aonuma said he wanted to remaster it on the N64 in original form and... yeah. By then Nintendo hated 2D and he was recruited for OoT.
Now he just reminisces about it wistfully in interviews.

[Anonymous No.4709943]

>>4709707
>ALBW used to be a Z3 remake too.
That one is pretty evident from the map.
ALBW even has incomplete files for a full layout port of Zora River.

Zelda 3 was in turn a reboot of the original game. Even has meat and stop-clocks in the code.

They eventually hired a bunch of novices to remake Zelda 1 for the Satellaview... and probably Zelda 2 (considering hints of its existence in test cartridges and prerelease screens in 1988 showing off how the super famicom could do more colors and have KANJI!! in text)

There's speculation OoT is heavily inspired by Zelda 3, considering the dungeon themes. Some speculate also about two medallions plus the light sanctuary, and a dungeon whose rehash in the final dungeon doesn't match its current elemental theme.
That's not even getting into the myriads of alternate events still in the game (like Gerudos kicking out CHILD Link) and the content that would have been programmed for the 64DD including golden variants of enemies (the idea was used in the oracle games) as Ura, but by 2000 Nintendo stopped all N64 development and cobbled whatever they did on Ura as a literal dungeon romhack as Master Quest.

Majora's Mask was supposed to span more than 3 days but similarly I don't think that they did that much progress on it. It's pretty good for a game developed in one year.

[Anonymous No.4709963]

>>4709943
>alternate events
Yeah, but that's every game. As a game is finished loose ends are bound to be left... loose.
>golden variants
I've never heard of this. I know Aonuma said something similar about Twilight Princess but still not necessarily golden. Though I know they were in The Minish Cap from this same time.

[Anonymous No.4709965]

>Follow-up: >>4709943

TP cut the magic meter, the fire arrows, some dungeons have more geometry than accessible that's blocked off by rubble. Lots of interiors cut. It's still a marvel they could fully realize TWW's vision and still fit within the GC disk (barely).

Skyward Sword has some hints Nintendo was thinking about more Mole Mania games even that much years later. I didn't find juicy stuff about it. Amusingly, Fi's text is in its separate text blob after four text blobs for each major zone, and it's BIGGER.

BoTW has the hookshot (some animations still there), different way to get/lose the master sword, filler shrines, modeled but buggy Agate Mt., message for maxed out hearts that can't appear since there are yet 12 more shrines/3 more heart containers required, you could get stamina containers out in the loose, and discarded ideas for themed elemental items/dungeons all over the place, and of course various impossible situations.
Regarding the story, it was cut down to prioritize gameplay, so planned more detailed tellings of how Hyrule fell, specifically how King Harkenian died, and the secret of the Sheikas infatuation with banana-shaped things. Nintendo also avoided showing the game off early on because they significantly downgraded it, but some screens with the nifty effects still leaked. That was probably to salvage the Wii U version. In turn, a lot of features relying on the WiiU pad thing were trimmed to not make the switch version inferior.

[Anonymous No.4709994]

>>4709963
>>alternate events
>Yeah, but that's every game. As a game is finished loose ends are bound to be left... loose.
OoT is a special case in that it was designed for possible future expansions so the engine had to accomodate alternate event flags that come with the new content.
It's like how dataminers find shiny Pokemons and hidden distribution events before they happen, except OoT's expansion never happened in its intended form as Nintendo abandoned the 64DD idea entirely by MM.

[Anonymous No.4710007]

>>4709501
Advance Wars 64 too.

Intelligent Systems struggled with 3D on N64 because of how obtuse it was to work with and how unsupportive Nintendo was, so they developed on the Super Famicom instead, and the original director still had the time to publish the last FE in 2000, resign, develop a new game from scratch for the PS1 and release it by 2001, much to Nintendo's ire.

Some say it met the fate of Far East of Eden 64DD and Mother 64 and released on the GBA as Fire Emblem Sword of Seals but who knows.

[Anonymous No.4710013]

>>4698807
cute af

[Anonymous No.4710048]

>>4709994
Yeah but that's all just speculation when it comes to OoT. There's no hard evidence Ura was more than MQ. Just like I think you're speculating about golden enemies. The telephone game just blew things out of proportion and still is.

[Anonymous No.4710054]

>>4697925
Thanks for posting this. I get a real insight of the times and how hype the N64 was.

[Anonymous No.4710065]

>>4710048
>Just like I think you're speculating about golden enemies.
That supposedly came from a Miyamoto interview about OoT and the potential of the 64DD. Some of the datamining done so far on the dangling 64DD compatibility left within OoT supports that additional enemy variation and NPC events, not just very limited dungeon layout variations, could have been done.

As for whether all of that made it past concept and prototype phase, that's a different matter. I personally don't think so. Just Master Quest's files are labeled 64dd in the 3DS remake so that might be the extent of what they *implemented*. It's still a fact they cut short N64 developemnt around 2000 and focused on TWW.

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[Anonymous No.4710082]

>>4698748
In case you didn't know where to go?

>>4699281
Regenerating health, interesting.

[Anonymous No.4710574]

>>4709723
>>4709739

Thanks, I'll look into it. Looks good, it's something like Link's Awakening then.

>>4709943
I've played the reconstructed Zelda 1 Sattleview, it's pretty cool, I like it much more than the original one.

About OoT... I agree with everything, specially with the sages thing sealing Ganon.

Yes, the Forest/Wind themed room in the Ganon Tower doesn't make sense.

Also each puzzle in Ganon's Tower seems... primitive or out of place, just like the Bottom of the Well and the Fire Temple. It's hard to describe, but it feels there's something missing, you know?

Like their designs aren't as good as some of remade dungeons.

[Anonymous No.4710587]

>>4709469
Apparently it's from one of those GBC sewing cartridges.

[Anonymous No.4711035]

>>4703897
Dat Nintendo...

[Anonymous No.4711139]

>>4697048
>>4697050
>>4697052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl7K2d1R5ac
>that gasp at 15 seconds

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[Anonymous No.4711189]

>>4711167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyo_AXQLIdI
I love hearing the original demo arranged music by Mitsuda

[Anonymous No.4711421]

>>4711189
ohhhh, this middle age map explain why there used to be domes all over place in the future...

The domes occupied the places of the Windmills...

[Anonymous No.4712468]

This thread can do better than 237 posts.

[Anonymous No.4712469]

The Macross PS1 game Bandai completely finished localizing before Harmony Gold bastards who had nothing to do with it patent trolled it out of existence.

[Anonymous No.4712529]

What if Nintendo just made a new zelda game, closer to the original one, based on all the N64 assets? I bet many would buy it

[Anonymous No.4712553]

>>4712529
you mean ever oasis.
same engine as OoT 3D remakes.
few bought it.

If you mean a new game with low buget assets and engine with the zelda name attached, they would have a new asshole torn like with star fox zero.

[Anonymous No.4712615]

>>4712529
I'd love a game closer to the original Zelda 1 but I don't see any reason to use N64 assets specifically.

>>4712553
Star Fox Zero tanked because it had forced motion controls that were very bad, and it retold Starfox 64 yet again, so i'm not sure what you're bringing that game up for.

A low budget Zelda title would probably be eaten up by the fans as a thing to satisfy the fans waiting for the next big 3D game,

[Anonymous No.4712673]

>>4712553
>>4712615
I mean a game using 64 assets...think about it.. so many people nostalgia over the games.. so many secrets and cool feelings simply due to the way the assets were.. I'm sure if Nintendo made a game on the original N64 assets a lot of old fans would love it.

[Anonymous No.4713165]

>>4698990
>tfw I'll never get to see 8 bit Cooper giving me a thumbs up

[Anonymous No.4713919]

>>4712615
That's weird. I definitely remember reviewers and people bashing star fox zero for the bare bones graphics in particular.

For OoT 3DS you still see 3D Unity HD fan remakes trending everywhere and graphic whores raving how that should be the way the remake should have been, and that the 3DS should die so that further remakes will magically be like that.
Bringing back N64/early PS2 assets? Haha no way. Even for Zelda models when they needed them for new games on 3DS (Brawl, Musou, etc) the poly count was GC era tier. 5th gen early low poly 3D nostalgia is still a contentious subject nowadays, even the indies who want to jump on the bandwagon of retraux nostalgias find out the hard way audiences tolerate low effort art in that style less than pixel art.