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hands down the best controller of all time

>> No.4675149

>>4675137
Fuck no it isn't its way behind xbox 360 for fps and racing and way behind the Saturn for 2d and fighters in what way is it the best the only reason the anolog sticks are there is because there was no other place for them and it was an after thought

>> No.4675160

The d-pad ruins it for me.

>> No.4675162

>>4675137
nope, xbox 360. playing the thumbsticks for too long hurts my thumbs. xbox's designs were always solid.

>> No.4675169
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4675169

>>4675137
Nope. Sony ruined the simplicity and ergonomics of the SNES controller after the separation from Nintendo.

This third party switch controller is legitimately one of the best controllers, and it's sad that no one attempted this before.

>> No.4675181

>>4675149
>>4675162
The 360 has the worst D-pad in the history of first party controllers.

>> No.4675189

>>4675169
um excuse me anon you're not allowed to shill this controller here, ibuffalo and logitech are the only thirdparties permitted on this board.
i'm gonna need you to delete your post and leave, thanks.

>> No.4675190

>>4675181
Yeah but the sticks are better and 90% of 360 games only use it for menus and weapon switch and i think you are forgetting the tiny razor blade that Nintendo called a d-pad on the gamecube

>> No.4675198

>>4675181
>The 360 has the worst D-pad in the history of first party controllers.
No, it doesn't. That would be the GameCube, and the only bad thing about it is the placement. Aside from that, it works perfectly fine.

>> No.4675207

>>4675137
Agreed. I love how it feels in my hand. Make all the gay jokes you want, I don't care.

>> No.4675215

>>4675190
Well, we're on /vr/, and a lot of older games use the D-pad.

>>4675198
The 360 D-pad is useless for games that require precise inputs, as it's likely to slip and give you an adjacent input pretty often. A proper D-pad should NEVER do that.

>> No.4675221

>>4675215
Okay well the Saturn conroller is better for games that need precise inputs

>> No.4675224

>>4675221
Yeah, the Saturn controller is very good.

>> No.4675228
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4675228

>>4675221
>>4675224
Are you guys talking about this one?

>> No.4675231

>>4675228
No i wasnt but that one is still better than the duelshock i was talking about the standard 6 button

>> No.4675237

>>4675228
I know i'm not alone in thinking the Nomad indeed has the best D Pad ever made

>> No.4675250

>>4675189
Faggot. 8bitdo controllers are great.

>> No.4675259

>>4675228
standard Japanese 6 button is the greatest controller ever made for 2d games, but the 3d controller isnt that bad either.

>> No.4675260
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4675260

Best for 2D: Saturn
Best for 3D: 360

There is literally no way to argue against this.

The PS4 controller fixes just about everything I didn't like about the DualShock, but it's not /vr/ relevant

>> No.4675262

>>4675260
Best for 2d would be x1
Best for 3d would be x1
Best for pc would be x1

Try and argue. You will look like an idiot that has never used the x1 dpad for retro games.

>> No.4675269
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4675269

>>4675262
>bought an X1
>calls others idiots

Have they made a game for it yet?

>> No.4675353

>>4675137

Why this one instead of the ps2 controller?

>> No.4675628

>>4675137
Completely ruined by its fragmented D-pad.
>>4675353
Analog buttons tho.

>> No.4675912

>>4675262
I mean, it's an alright controller, but I still prefer PS4 for 2D games on PC, at least.

>> No.4675927

>>4675137
Fuck no, it feels like I'm gripping your sister's cheap dildo. SNES controller was the best.

>> No.4676096

>>4675160
The dpad is the best part of it lol. I would kill a man for an exact replica that I could use to play tank control survival horror games on my computer with. Ps3 and 4 have shitty r2 and l2 buttons.

>> No.4676101

>>4676096
I dunno, I prefer a standard d-pad like the SNES one, or if I want a different kind of d-pad there's the Saturn/Genesis model 2 one. PS's d-pad always felt weird to me, not terrible, but it prevents the PS' pad from being among my favorites.
As for the R2/L2 buttons on PS3, I agree, I played too much bayonetta (I know, ps3 is worst version, I still platinum'd it), and my R2 became loose as fuck.

>> No.4676163

Is the dualshock 2 identical to the psone dualshock?

>> No.4676175

>>4676163
The dpad was pressure sensitive, but little to no games used them.

>> No.4676184

>>4676175
The face buttons were pressure sensitive too, and tons of games made use of them.
Gran Turismo 3, GTA3, and MGS2 are some popular examples

>> No.4676196

>>4676184
Its also lighter. No real reason not to use a dualshock 2 if you have one lying around since they are backwards compatible with PS1.

>> No.4676197

>>4675162
>playing the thumbsticks for too long hurts my thumbs
If you can't comfortably use both a dualshock and a 360 controller, you're either holding one of them wrong, or there's something wrong with your hands.
What part of your thumb is the contact point on the stick? Tip, print, joint, or lower?

>> No.4676202
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4676202

the original tiny japanese pad is better.

>> No.4676204

>>4676202
I like the original xbox controller because it seems to be the only control ever built for guys with massive hands. Shame how fragile OG xbox controllers are. Pretty much forces me to use a third party wireless control

>> No.4676816

>>4675198
the one from the gamecube is way better
inputting text on 360 always took me forever because the shitty d-pad never did what i wanted

>> No.4676824

>>4676096
>>4676101
The PS d-pad was considered to be terribad when it came out.

>> No.4676875

>>4676202
Yeah this controller was awesome. I never owned a Saturn but the Genesis d-pad was also quite good. I ended up liking action games more on the Genesis for this reason vs. the SNES.

>> No.4676912

>>4675137
>adding a couple of tumors to a controller with no care how it affects grip
>good

>> No.4676972
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>>4676204
this one was the best wireless gamepad I've used
but not retro

>> No.4677380

>>4675181
The d-pad on the gamecube was worse at least the 360 wasn't physically painful to use.

>> No.4677530

>>4677380
The only problem with the GC's d-pad is the size, but at least the directionals are certain. The 360's dpad is the worst.

>> No.4677537

>>4675137
how do you judge a controller if your hands are down

>> No.4677538

I've never liked the Playstation d-pad. It feels mushy and whenever I've extensively played fighting games on it my thumb gets sore sliding around it so much.

But that's just me. I know people who speedrun using things like PS4 controllers in sidescroller games and people who are competitive with the range of Playstation controllers in fighting games.

My fav controller is the Xbone controller. I love that d-pad.

t. Uses Xbone controller on PC for console-style games, emulators, and all platformers and fighting games.

>> No.4677747

>>4675169
the playstation control is far more ergonomic than the snes pad dipshit

>> No.4677861
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4677861

Too bad we never got this

>> No.4677880

>>4675137
ds3 is better because of pressure sensitive dpad

>> No.4677890

>>4675250
not him but iBuffalo is way way way better than that and costs 1/3 as much.

>> No.4678620
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>>4677890
ya and they're not bluetooth either so that puts them in an entirely separate category

virgin chorded < chad wireless

>> No.4678627

>>4677861
thats just an upsidedown genesisnes controller. very original phony.

>> No.4678668

>>4675269
>implying you have to buy an x1 to get an x1 controller

>> No.4678980

Eeehhh, no. I bought one close to new (I even fucking checked) not long ago and I kept missing inputs because I didn't press hard enough.

>> No.4679262

>>4675137
Not really anymore. My hands became mitts, grabbing any old controller gives me cramps.

Gamecube controller ftw. Hands down the comfiest and most ergonomic controller evah.

>> No.4679415

>>4675169
why the fuck did you put a 8shitdo image anon?

are you 8bitdo?

>> No.4679417

>>4675250
>>4675169

input lag, bad ergonomics, mush d-pad, desyncs...

how the hell it's a great controller 8bitdo?

>> No.4679423
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4679423

>>4675137
Dear /v/ I can only play fighting games on a playstation style pad, am I an autisim?

>> No.4679432

>>4675137
Trying way too hard to be a contrarian.

>> No.4679613

>>4675228
>just cramp my hand up senpai

>> No.4679887

>>4675137
>ohaiguise look what i just saw on youtube

>> No.4679893

>>4679423
I’ll do you one better friend I can only play fighters with a snes controller. Any other type and my fingers go retarded.

>> No.4679913

>>4675262
The Xbone controller is unironically a downgrade from the 360 controller.

>> No.4679916

>>4675260
PS4 > 360.

PS4 has symmetry and allows for claw grips on either side

very little objective benefits but they are indeed objective benefits

>> No.4679921

>>4677861
I've seen this hundreds of times in threads like these over the years, and this is the first time I've noticed the X and O buttons are swapped.

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4680240

This.

>> No.4680262
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4680262

The steam controller can map mouse controls to the gyro. Think like aiming in breath of the wild but for everything. Truly a hybrid between keyboard and mouse and the controller.

>> No.4680378
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I just decided to test both a PSOne Dualshock and a DS4 (V2) with retroarch.

I can consistently do diagonals accurately with the DS4. The PSOne dualshock keeps just not doing it most of the time. I'm not sure if it's because I'm using one of these. I'm not sure about input lag, it feels about the same.

>> No.4680385

>>4675198
Gamecube's dpad is pretty bad, but good luck getting the direction you want to register on the 360's shitty dpad.

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4680416

>>4679921

>> No.4680419

>>4680385
360's dpad is just a joystick in disguise. It works fine.

>> No.4680420

>>4680378
Get an x1 controller. Tell us how much more you like it.

>> No.4680784

Dualshock 3 is the best one.
Aesthetics and convinience of ps1 with both 360 analogs and working triggers. Minus is the battery.
t. ds3 on PC

>> No.4680789

>>4680784
>>4675137
but I agree that what you posted is, in fact, one of the greatest. Still love mine.

>> No.4680801

The PS controller is decent for Street Fighter or Gundam Battle Assault type of fighting games.

I'd never use it for a Guilty Gear type which utilizes a half-circle roll a lot. Shit's near-impossible for me, I'd even rate the GameCube d-pad as being more responsive as I have played the Wii version with it.

>> No.4680885
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4680885

surprisingly good.. another set of buttons and i would have prefered it to alot of modern controllers.

>> No.4680887

>>4680419
For precise directional presses, it absolutely does not work fine at all.

>> No.4680891

>>4680784
DS3 is a piece of shit. It's a nightmare using that thing to watch a movie on the PS3, every time you set it down the bottom shoulder buttons touch the surface you lay it on and it rewinds or something. They're also slippery and curved inward rather than outward. They could have just made it 360-style triggers, but no. DS1 and DS2 are objectively better.

>> No.4680994

>>4675149
The xbox 360 controller is a lumpy formless mess and I have no fucking idea how anyone could ever like it

>>4680262
HA

>>4675169
I like the design of this one a lot but it's really poorly made

>> No.4681057

>>4675137
>>4675149
>>4680994
Playing Wipeout on my playstation starts to hurt my fingers because of how the triggers are spaced on the dual shock, but when I emulte using an xbox 360 controller I don't get this problem at all. I prefer emulating at this point largely because of how good the controller feels. The gamecube controller is also comfy.

>> No.4681059

>>4680262
Meh, you could assign mouse controls with JoyToKey. It's not fancy.

>> No.4681189

Xbox 360 controller is completely obsoleted by the Xbone controller. It is the same thing, but with a functional d-pad.

>> No.4681530

>>4679417
>mush d-pad, desyncs
wow these are new, where'd you pull these from?

>> No.4681570

>>4676202
Is that the one that has four seperate buttons that acts as a d-pad?

>> No.4681608

>>4675137
Is that the DS2? Then I agree. The DS2 has analog buttons besides R3, L3, Start and Select they're analog unless you use an USB adapter. They don't recognize analog inputs for whatever reason.

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>>4681608
>They don't recognize analog inputs for whatever reason.
A Δ press is a Δ press. You can't say it's only a half.

>> No.4681864

>>4678620
>the scanlines

unf

>> No.4681929
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4681929

Hey remember when Sony tried to make an original controller

>> No.4681964

>>4681843
No, DS2 actually recognizes how hard you're pressing the face buttons. I can personally confirm this with PS2 Burnout games - if you aren't flooring that cross button you aren't playing it right

>> No.4681968

>>4681964
Ultros posts are always puns or jokes.
Google "an a press is an a press"

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>>4676202
this, desu

>> No.4683327

>>4681570
No Sony controller has ever been like that.

>>4681608
>Is that the DS2?
No

>>4681929
Alps made that. They released a variant.

>> No.4683331

>>4680891
This is true. The r2 and l2 fuck up too easily, the ps3 controller is not very durable compared to other controllers.
To me the GOAT controllers are still SNES and Saturn.

>> No.4683335

>>4679921
me too except i still wouldn't have noticed it if you didn't point it out

>> No.4683340

>>4677861
>d-pad without the stupid segmentation plastic over it
>classic SNES style without useless "ergomonic" cones and bults
>6 face buttons
>L and R longer like the SNES shoulder buttons
Fuck this timeline.

>> No.4683443

>>4675137
>>4676202

cancer pads that will give you finger-aids

>> No.4683471

>>4681057
Why u fingers gay?

>> No.4683474

>>4675160
PS1's D-pad is excellent for a gamepad that primarily used for menu navigation in JRPGs.

>> No.4683756

which controller has the best triggers?

All the chink shit I stumble on has only 3-position triggers (0, half, full) and it pisses me off.
I want to drive slowly in GTAs

>> No.4683818

>>4681530
Dunno about mushy but the diagonals on it are way, way too sensitive.
Regarding desyncs: I have an NES30 that after about 10 minutes of usage starts having up to a full second of lag.
The FC30 i own doesn't have that problem so I'd assume the other one has a defect but still, they're definitely not the best ones out there.