/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4664426]

Hatred of emulation seems to come in three flavours on /vr/.

1. I'm too retarded to do it it correctly
2. I've wasted tens of thousands of dollars on games and don't want to admit there's a better alternative
3. Emulation and easy access to roms threatens my retro game cottage industry

[Anonymous No.4664445]

Input lag

[Anonymous No.4664452]

>>4664445
So, the first one?

[Anonymous No.4664457]

>>4664426
Disposable income, materialism, dopamine rush, stabilize, repeat.

The hedonic treadmill, bro. The same goes for collecting any media or object.

[Anonymous No.4664468]

>>4664426
>>4664445
>>4664457
Only correct answer is falseflagging trolls. You're more or less doing the same shit if you deny this.

[Anonymous No.4664480]

You forgot
4. When there are no good emulators for that system (N64, Saturn, Xbox, Dreamcast, PS2, etc.)

[Anonymous No.4664491]

>>4664480
Beetle Saturn works flawlessly.

[Anonymous No.4664497]

Is there anything wrong with having a minor preference for real consoles even if it is irrational?

[Anonymous No.4664504]

>>4664480
dreamcast and ps2 emulation are really good now
n64 emulation is great with the right plugins, but requires tweaking knowledge
mednafen saved saturn emulation
xbox emulation just came out of nowhere

[Anonymous No.4664506]

>>4664497
No. I too prefer the original hardware when possible, but I use emulators all the time. There's plenty of room for both.

[Anonymous No.4664513]

>>4664504
Does JSRF work well? Do GunValkyrie and Panzer Dragoon Orta work well?
Those were all supposed to be Dreamcast games until Sega fucked up.

[Anonymous No.4664514]

>>4664480
Looks like you fall into the first category.

[Anonymous No.4664515]

>>4664506
A middle of the road opinion isn't ever popular on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.4664516]

>>4664514

[Anonymous No.4664524]

>>4664516
What emulator? Or did you just find that pic on google images?

[Anonymous No.4664526]

>>4664513
sound effects are fucked and some graphical effects are missing, but its a solid 60fps
its playable in theory but you might as well wait like a year

[Anonymous No.4664527]

>>4664426
I didn’t emulate in 1988, so emulating now doesn’t feel like quite the same thing. Emulating any console pre-PS1 is pretty trouble-free, but anything after that takes longer to get up and running, and I’m busy and worn out at night and original hardware is just easy.

Also, I’m not a poorfag who only owns a Dell laptop.

[Anonymous No.4664531]

>>4664504
>dreamcast and ps2 emulation are really good now
[citation needed]

>n64 emulation is great with the right plugins, but requires tweaking knowledge
Liar. Several games are bugged when emulated.

https://wiki.libretro.com/index.php?title=Nintendo_N64_Core_Compatibility

>mednafen saved saturn emulation
Requires a very fast CPU to run at a decent speed.

>xbox emulation just came out of nowhere
Literally can only run a few games correctly.

>>4664514
No u.

[Anonymous No.4664535]

>>4664531
I have an i5 and GTX 970. Beetle Saturn runs full speed.

[Anonymous No.4664538]

>>4664531
>Requires a very fast CPU to run at a decent speed.
FX-8350 here. I have absolute zero hiccups at all.

[Anonymous No.4664540]

>>4664527
>I didn’t emulate in 1988
This isn't surprising, as you weren't even alive yet let alone playing games.

[Anonymous No.4664543]

>>4664540
Born in 1980.

[Anonymous No.4664545]

>>4664543
Yeah, man. I was born in 1945.

[Anonymous No.4664556]

>>4664545
You wouldn’t believe me no matter what age I said it was, so why even bother replying?
It’s funny how people around here make assumptions about others based on absolutely no information. It’s projection.

[Anonymous No.4664559]

>>4664556
>yeah, i'm lying, but i can't prove to you i'm NOT lying, so...
>anyway, it is YOU that is the kiddo
Okay, champ. Whatever you say. If you really want to larp that you're some waste of life, pushing forty, that's still hanging out on a kid's anime website then be my guest.

[Anonymous No.4664565]

>>4664559
>you said you’re old, you must be lying
>haha, you’re old, oldfag
When you’re here, you’re here for life.

[Anonymous No.4664570]

>>4664565
No, that's just you roleplaying.

[Anonymous No.4664572]

>>4664570
No, I’m old and fat.

[Anonymous No.4664574]

>>4664572
No, you're just a kid. So relax a little and chill with the larping.

[Anonymous No.4664578]

>>4664574
I’m relaxed, chill, and I have gray hairs.

[Anonymous No.4664581]

Resorting to emulation seems to come in one flavour on /vr/:

1. I'm too poor to play the real thing

[Anonymous No.4664582]

>>4664578
Whatever you say, kiddo. Keep replying and letting me know how I'm totally wrong about you being a kid.

[Anonymous No.4664584]

>>4664574
But you’ve got an interesting perspective. According to you, only underage posters post on the 4chin board dedicated to vidya from before 2000?

[Anonymous No.4664585]

>>4664581
timestamped pics of your most expensive stuff

[Anonymous No.4664587]

>>4664584
Yeah, mostly. That includes you. But please, do continue telling me how I'm totally wrong about that instead of just blowing off some random nobody's incorrect assumption.

[Anonymous No.4664592]

>>4664587
>haha, you got mad when I called you young
I’m not sure what you’re really going for here, but have fun.

[Anonymous No.4664594]

>>4664592
It's pretty clear what I'm going for. I'm telling you to stop fucking larping. It's cringy and no one's buying it, kid. If you're going to do it, at least do it like that "Gramps" child rapist and get a trip so people can filter it.

[Anonymous No.4664598]

4. I'd rather get a flash cart and an original console and not have to deal with obscure emulation problems

[Anonymous No.4664604]

>>4664581
Third category

>BILLY WHEN ARE YOU GONNA GET A REAL JOB?
>MOM SHUT UP! I SELL NES GAMES!

[Anonymous No.4664606]

>>4664598
First category.

[Anonymous No.4664609]

>>4664606
Not really, no. Some games on some consoles require plugins on emulators and other such obscure shit, why do that when you can just load the roms onto the flashcart and never have to worry?

[Anonymous No.4664623]

>>4664457
Disposable income should be deposited towards preservation while funding the hard drive industry as an indirect result. If a hard drive industry crash happens, you can enjoi the results.

>>4664581
I'm never paying for an already dumped arcade game. I'd rather buy a pool table and literally play with myself.

[Anonymous No.4664629]

>>4664623
>hard drive industry crash

What?

[Anonymous No.4664640]

Born in 1981, here.
I emulate the fuck out of everything. Hunting down bios and other shit has never been easier. Slight graphical or audio farts are preferable to digging my old shit out and hooking it all up.

Dreamcast, Saturn, N64, PS2. All emulated due to ease and not wanting a bunch of bullshit clutter. I don't see what is supposedly so unacceptable about the emulation of those.

[Anonymous No.4664660]

>>4664604
Nice projection, but I don't sell my library, seeing as I'm not a poorcuck like OP.

[Anonymous No.4664661]

I guess part of my thing about not using PC-based emulators for more recent games is that I can play a number of PS1 games on PS3/Vita. Which is still emulation, but without any kind of hassle. Also, I play few enough games nowadays period and my gaming interests are narrow enough now that the NES I have hooked up is enough.

[Anonymous No.4664682]

>>4664629
A large reason for our larger HDD's is due to archive.org & various cloud storage sites being their biggest customers.

[Anonymous No.4664703]

I've kinda fall into number 2 but have since started to embrace emulation. I have a setup now that has low enough input lag for me not to notice.

[Anonymous No.4664708]

Feel like the only people who can shit on emulation are the people who are playing on analog CRTs with original hardware. These people with hdmi modded consoles that use xrgb framemisters that clam emulation is not accurate enough are retarded

[Anonymous No.4664773]

>>4664497
>minor preference for real consoles even if it is irrational?

It's not "irrational." Real hardware and real physical media have a historic and aesthetic value beyond just the chips and 1s and 0s and the gameplay on the screen. People who prefer real hardware enjoy recreating the gaming experience from any given era, much like a car enthusiast might drive a bone stock Model T across the country. If you're just interested in a no frills gameplay experience, then emulation is fine. Real hardware also offers that experience but comes with additional elements to enjoy (console design aesthetics, box art, the tactile feeling of shoving a cart in, hooking the systems up, etc) for those interested.

That said, one experience is not objectively superior to another, and any collector who demeans emulation is likely a hypocrite since they no doubt have a Mame setup of some sort, but truth be told, not many collectors dislike emulation. It seems to be a "boogeyman" on here. That might've been true when emulation was subpar, but it's not a common opinion these days.

[Anonymous No.4664865]

>>4664531
Your point about Mednafen and Saturn is actually not such a bad thing, it's just a side effect of a more accurate emulator. Remember, the accuracy builds of bsnes and the like need roughly 3Ghz to run well, and that's just the SNES.

As for PS2 emulation, well...I don't want to say that PCSX2 is garbage, because it's not, but it's far from finished. Last time I ran through Kingdom Hearts there was a major crashing bug right at the end of the game on the Bald Mountain fight, disc swap still doesn't work for Dynasty Warriors games even though the bug's been known for years now, the Punisher game tends to slow down on the first level even on a 4Ghz+ CPU, and Fire Pro Wrestling R tends to skip and has minor rendering issues (This one has been tested on multiple PCs)

[Anonymous No.4665095]

4. I'm tired of configuring emulators and chasing accuracy and flash carts are now very cheap

[Anonymous No.4665101]

>>4665095
This, sometimes running emulators is a bit too much like the bad old days of pc games

[Anonymous No.4665103]

>>4665095
>>4665101
Please refer to category 1.

[Anonymous No.4665105]

You know why it's called emulation? Because it isn't the real thing, it only emulates it. I play the real thing, you don't. /thread

[Anonymous No.4665107]

>>4665103
I know more than you about emulation. Way more. Not going to argue it here because it's pointless, but I will say that no emulator can reach the level of accuracy I want. I even seek out specific hardware revisions of consoles because I want the crappier composite video output of earlier revisions because that would be most accurate to the time when the game was released.

[Anonymous No.4665114]

>>4665107
Am I the only one who thinks a lot of these upscaled / super clear emulated games look like shit? I don't get it, the fuzz of a good old CRT hides a lot of imperfections. Clearing the game up usually makes it look too crisp, ruining both some of the atmosphere but also making a lot of flaws glaringly apparent. These games were designed with CRTs in mind. It's like slapping a new interior into a classic car because it's better on a technical level while simultaneously ruining the vibe of the vehicle.

[Anonymous No.4665121]

>>4664426
Emulation faggotry seems to come in three flavours on /vr/.

1. I'm too retarded to understand why anyone would want to use original hardware.
2. I'm an aging manbaby who lacks gainful employment and thus can't justify buying a few things for myself
3. Emulation allows me to gorge myself on thousands of shitty games and owning fewer games on real hardware threatens my desire to never pursue any other hobbies

[Anonymous No.4665123]

>>4665114
Then use a filter.

[Anonymous No.4665124]

>>4665123

[Anonymous No.4665125]

>>4665123
No filter replicates the look of a real CRT faggot, and I hope your pic isn't supposed to demonstrate that it does because that looks absolutely nothing like a TV.

[Anonymous No.4665126]

>>4665124
>>4665125
And neither does this.

[Anonymous No.4665127]

Imagine this scenario:

>you are interested in a particular hobby
>there are various methods of approaching this hobby, some more convenient than others
>most people take the convenient approach because they only engage it in every once in while
>but you, you spend an hour or so a night at this hobby
>in order to get the ultimate experience with this hobby you must make a grand investment of... $50

That's about what it costs for a modded PlayStation or a Dreamcast. If you have anything more than a passing interesting in retro games and don't play on original hardware you're not really that interested in this stuff at all. Now there are some things that are a little different, such as more expensive systems to find that may not have good piracy support, or playing games for systems that are hard to get working at all like old Japanese computers.

But overall a person who cares much about /vr/ should have a nice set-up going with original hardware + CRT to play their games the "right" way.

[Anonymous No.4665129]

>>4665123
Why use a filter when I can just play the game on the original system + CRT and get a superior experience?

[Anonymous No.4665132]

>>4665127
Correct. However, you are dealing with hyper-autists that do not understand neither the mechanical nor emotional value of playing on original hardware and most likely don't even $50 to spend to begin with.

[Anonymous No.4665135]

>>4664640
I've found that I end up enjoying games the most when I hook up one system and really dig into its catalog for several months. The business of having 12 systems hooked up to a TV at once I see in some "Room of Doom" posts doesn't lend itself towards getting deep into one console's experience.

[Anonymous No.4665141]

>>4665135
Same here. I buy a console or dig an old one out, really get into some of the games I have, take my time enjoying them and maybe research a few new games to buy, and then after awhile put it back, concern myself with something else and revisit it again at some point in the future. I have found that when you have unlimited access to games, you become bored. It's like a child getting too many toys on christmas -- you have so much that you don't know what to do with them and you have no way of appreciating them. Nothing is better than hearing about some awesome game, eagerly anticipating playing it, and then finally doing so and really getting to relish it for a few weeks before moving on to something else. That's what gaming is meant to be.

[Anonymous No.4665195]

>>4665127
If you really like playing with accessories, real hardware is a must. Sure, you can emulate light gun games by using a mouse to click, but it's not the same. D-pad light gun games? Yeah, I'll stick with my gun. The Dreamcast is pretty big about this. If I wanna mess around with the full keyboard+mouse experience, I can without having to worry about accidentally alt+tabbing out of an emulator. And you might as well not even touch the fishing games if you don't have the controller. If you do, bring it to your friends or a party sometime. You'd be surprised how many people are willing to play a fishing game when you have the controller for it. The VMU is another deal.

If you are fan of PS1 racing games, real hardware is a must. I'm sure some jagoff will complain about the lack of z-buffer and blah blah blah, but many PS1 racing games support the link cable. As such, if you have two PS1s and two CRTs, and two copies of the game if it's not a 2 disk game, you can have both players playing on their own screen. Wipeout series, some Test Drive games, Cool Boarders 2, Destruction Derby, R4, SF Rush, and a few others. You can also do the same with some other 2 player games like the Armored Core games, the Bushido Blade games(1 supported First Person View for both players over the link cable, I dunno about 2), C&C:RA, Dune 2000, Doom and Final Doom, and Twisted Metal 3. Beats the flying fuck out of split screen.

[Anonymous No.4665197]

>>4664504
Dreamcast and PS2 are both cheap. Get one for 20-30 dollars and then pirate every game.

N64 is a bit more expensive since millennial hipsters will pay anything for Nintendo things, ruining the market. But n64 emulation is complete garbage, the console itself too is hard to get a good picture out of. Overall, pretty shit console for a few decent games that you can just play on wii virtual console. (Zelda, Paper Mario)

Xbox are cheap as hell and easy to softmod.

Just buy console and mod them, better than emulating.

[Anonymous No.4665198]

I'm not a fan of emulation, I like to play on original hardware. I rarely buy copies of games on a console I own, I always softmod or buy a flashcart.

[Anonymous No.4665205]

>>4664452
Yep
>>4664480
There are good emulators for all those systems except xbox, and there are about 3 good xbox games anyway.
>>4664513
>Panzer Dragoon Orta
Go play zwei, it's a hundred times better

[Anonymous No.4665206]

>>4664426
Flashcarts and drive emulators are the best of both worlds.

[Abwezi No.4665218]

>>4664531
>>n64 emulation is great with the right plugins, but requires tweaking knowledge
>Liar. Several games are bugged when emulated.

>https://wiki.libretro.com/index.php?title=Nintendo_N64_Core_Compatibility

This link doesn't really prove anything, most - all of the problems listed here go away with the Angrylion Renderer

[Anonymous No.4665263]

>>4664457
Edward bernays would be proud, you fucking empty vacuous low iq sad cunting disgrace, get a life you goyim faggot cunt.

[Anonymous No.4665291]

>>4664426
We'd probably be shocked how often all three apply. Anyone who cries muh authenticity or the religious experience of feeling the molded plastic on your fingers that makes the world feel real has at least one of those behind them. At least.

[Anonymous No.4665293]

>>4665263
Nerve status: Fucking HIT

[Anonymous No.4665387]

>>4665103
I have less free time than I have income. If you want to spend your free time fine-tuning your emulator settings so that you don’t have to do as many Fiverr or Taskrabbit jobs to afford a single used 20-year-old console and a few games, then that’s your choice. It’s not what I’m interested in.
Emulation is purely utility for me. I’ll use it to screen games that I might want to play on hardware.

[Anonymous No.4666598]

>>4665125
wrong

[Anonymous No.4666784]

>>4664426
What if I enjoy physically using the hardware? I know the hardware is absolute dogshit compared to what we have today, but I just like owning and using old hardware. The weird things that make it tick. I like emulation, and use emulators pretty often to play games for systems that are either a) too expensive to get or b) test ROM and disc dumps. This boogeyman of collectorfags always hating emulation is irrational, and retards like you, OP, need to realize that not every problem is black and white and everyone doesn't need to take part in this arguments.

[Anonymous No.4666796]

>>4666784
How would you have a 5chin thread without extremely polarized arguments over small details?

[Anonymous No.4666803]

>>4666784

This is the correct answer. I buy physical retro things because I like playing the game the way the developer intended for the time it was released. I also have an emulator for almost every system and a ton of games for when I want to play something but can't justify the cost.

[Anonymous No.4666807]

>>4666784
> The weird things that make it tick.
This has always been one of my fascinations. I love getting a new console and learning about all of the weird features and peripherals it had. The Sega Saturn was one of the coolest for me in that regard, seeing the awesome system menu, learning about the various peripherals and how it could connect to the net, etc. Just really nifty stuff.

[Anonymous No.4666808]

>>4666784

[Anonymous No.4666820]

>>4666808
Is it just me or is this guy like the real life equivalent of a cartoonish villain that you'd see in some cheesy comedy movie like Dodgeball or Zoolander? He has that whole psychopathic yet goofy aura about him. I would love to see Ben Stiller play this faggot, he'd be perfect.

[Anonymous No.4667015]

>>4666808

Even Billy sees the superiority of MAME. Realhardwarefags BTFO.

[Anonymous No.4667031]

>>4665121
underrated post

(and im an emulator fag whose only console is the ps4)

[Anonymous No.4667042]

everyone saying how cheap a modded console is, yeah $50, but all the good games are expensive as fuck (if you can find them) and flashcarts are $200 per system

[Anonymous No.4667048]

>>4664531
PS2 emulation is great.

[Anonymous No.4667051]

>>4667048
fucking lies.

[Anonymous No.4667054]

>>4667015
Heh. Yeah. As for my my gaming, I use real hardware when I want to prove something definitively, or just want to be truly authentic and really feel the nostalgia, but emulators are for the Neo Turf Masters out there . In the case of NTM, it's common sense to either pay Nintendo 9 bucks for it, or to download it for free because paying over 23 grand for it is ridiculous. That really would be deserving of ridicule.

And why do all the emulation haters never acknowledge that emulation has saved countless games from obscurity? Why do they never mention the fact that most video games are not being sold anymore and the options to play them are to either pay pirate booty sums of cash for them or to "do the right thing" and not play. Imagine if baseballs became rare, then imagine insisting that only players with authentic balls hoarded before the great baseball drought came and blighted the land can play games while all the poor bastards with theirs cannot because of a negligible difference.

[Anonymous No.4667064]

>>4664594
It would be nice if you would just fist your ass to death. Serious, you suck as a troll and as a human being. You should be feel bad for doing such a shitty troll job.

[Anonymous No.4667068]

>>4667054
your strawman "Emulation hater" doesn't exist on /vr/.

[Anonymous No.4667074]

>>4667068
You must be new here. Btw, calling "strawman argument" is not an argument and is a strawman in an of itself.

[Anonymous No.4667076]

>>4667054
>Imagine if baseballs became rare

Zach Hample is working on it. Fun fact: He's also a world record holder on a couple of arcade games (Breakout and Arkanoid).

[Anonymous No.4667101]

>>4667042
Sure, but I got a literally smelly-ass Wii for $15 from some rancid cunt that I softmodded to play Wii games off a $7 flashdrive.

I do hate buying anything online, th0, especially ancient hardware from whatever roach invested fleaBay & yard sale fuckers thought it would be a good idea to put almost-busted hardware up for sale, not to mention every flashcarter is a shady turd that I trust less than sending money off to some arcade game dumpers. One of my PS2s had its DVD reading capabilities fry which is relatively uncommon, so the thought of getting another one is nonexistent.

This is in comparison to, you know, getting brandy-new hardware fresh off of the conveyor belt with that new-hardware smell instead of some yellowing, cigarette encrusted, Super Shitendo?

[Anonymous No.4667201]

>>4667042
>are $200 per system

Just sell about 5-10 games for each system if you still own 5-10 games from back in the day for them.

Personally I put in a fuckload of overtime at work and bought one every week or two. I was like a zombie from working so many hours but it was worth a temporary sacrifice of time to gain every game on my systems. I have a friend who is into "collecting" and it sometimes gives me a chuckle when I see him pay amped up prices for even mediocre games. I'm not laughing at him, mainly happy flash carts saved me from doing the same thing. I know myself and know if it weren't for flash carts, I'd be spending ludicrous amounts on games just to satisfy that inane autistic desire which exists in me to collect pieces of rotting plastic.

[Anonymous No.4667219]

>>4667048
Then why won't it work bitch

[Anonymous No.4667223]

If there was one place to download every single retro game in history and all it's dumb ass BIOS shit and all configured to work and all that good shit, I would emulate. For now I'm just sticking with my OG hardware, jailbreaking my Super NT for SNES roms, and using flash carts.

Someone just release a one-stop github clone that has retroarch already all set up, I don't have time for the bullshit.

[Anonymous No.4667224]

>>4667042
If you have a modded system then you just pirate your games.

[Anonymous No.4667226]

>>4667101
You're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.4667227]

>>4667074
>Btw, calling "strawman argument" is not an argument and is a strawman in an of itself.

[Anonymous No.4667342]

why the fuck do the /vr/ mongoloids have this burning need to justify emulation? JUST FUCKING DO IT AND SHUT UP

https://youtu.be/ZXsQAXx_ao0

[Anonymous No.4667343]

>>4664445
use a crt faggot

[Anonymous No.4667357]

>>4664516
>retards still can't compile mupen

[Anonymous No.4668040]

>>4667227

I wasn't really wondering how you looked, but ok.

Today is the last day of the Wii's Virtual Console, I think it's wise for anyone to take advantage of it before it's effectively closed down tomorrow since some emulators still have troubles running certain games. Maybe download some N64 games since most of those are fucked when it comes to plugging their ROMs into just about every emulator that claims to run them. I'd also suggest some NEO GEO games too since running either real ones or correctly running the ROMs remains time consuming or cost prohibitive.

[Anonymous No.4668142]

>>4664426
I love emulation but I also like buying original games, I like box art designs and cd/casette art.

Not at home right now so I can't post a pic but I went to 4 years ago and bought a lot of anime/jrpg Famicom and SFamicom games along with the consoles just because I liked the anime or the art in the box. Never played them but I like having them around

[Anonymous No.4668169]

I was poor growing up and videos games are expensive where i live, so i've been emulating since day one, and pirating for the few consoles i've had. Nowadays i keep doing it out of habit, even though i actually dislike the idea of emulating and i wish i could collect.

[Anonymous No.4668178]

>>4668142
Didn't have enough money at the time but now I also buy PS1 games and tend to play those more. I was born in 96 so I don't remember the 90s but stuff from the era makes me nostalgic for some reason so I'm happy just looking at it.

/blog

[Anonymous No.4668181]

>>4668142 (You)
Didn't have enough money at the time but now I also buy PS1 games and tend to play those more. I was born in 96 so I don't remember the 90s but stuff from the era makes me nostalgic for some reason so I'm happy just looking at it.

/blog

[Anonymous No.4668184]

>>4668142
Didn't have enough money at the time but now I also buy PS1 games and tend to play those more. I was born in 96 so I don't remember the 90s but stuff from the era makes me nostalgic for some reason so I'm happy just looking at it.

/blog

>>4668169
You can play original games with emulators you do know that right. Still, pirating games is not a big deal, only crazed moralfags get mad about it

[Anonymous No.4668193]

I still have a load of my original Commodore 64 and Amiga games from back when, still have two functioning 64s, one of which is the original I got as a kid, my A500 and A1200, plus hundreds of floppies for them, but fuck me with a rolling pin if I don't like emulating over the fun bits of using original hardware, such as:

>the incredibly slow loading speed of non-turboloaded 1541s
>never knowing whether floppy 2 of 4 or something has been corrupted in the 30 years since it was originally written
>digging everything from the cupboard, sorting out leads, oh and hoping to find the Commodore-to-SVHS cable that was cleverly put away so the dog doesn't eat it
>hoping that the ancient joysticks still function and don't give up the ghost the moment you punch a motherfucker in IK+
>hoping that the CM8833 doesn't die on you after digging it out

etc.

[Anonymous No.4668194]

>>4667357
Congrats, it only took, what, 20 years for N64 emulation to stop sucking? And even so it's still not perfect in general yet.

[Anonymous No.4668205]

>>4665125
wrong

[Anonymous No.4668235]

What if I emulate, but have a hatred of people who think Dolphin is an accurate emulator, if not still a usable one?

[Anonymous No.4668242]

>>4664426
>>4664457
THAS RITE!

Anti emulation niggers are collectors who collect games but don't play them.

[Anonymous No.4668265]

>>4668194
It was possible for like 9 years already (since MupenPlus came out), but imbeciles like you wouldn't know it since you can't even follow the simple instructions to set it up.
I bet you are one of those faggots who point at the ancient shit like ZSNES as an example of modern emulation.

[Anonymous No.4668270]

>>4667051
>>4667219
>I have a shitty PC
PCSX2 works great, sorry for the toaster

[Anonymous No.4668381]

>>4668265
>hurr ur an imbecile
Says the twat that doesn't even know that the emulator isn't the issue, it's the video plugin, and a good one wasn't made for N64 until rather recently (for example, Glide64 was only released in 2015).

[Anonymous No.4668394]

>>4664426
Emulation is for faggots that need to be gassed, simple as that

[Anonymous No.4668408]

holy shit you guys are desperate

[Anonymous No.4668449]

>>4668235
Everyone knows Dolphin is inaccurate, including the devs.

[Anonymous No.4668456]

>>4668449
>Implying anyone just in it to play a game casually fucking cares

[Anonymous No.4668496]

>>4668265
Mupen still crashes Banjo Tooie last I checked though, which was about a year ago. Perhaps it's different now but all of the major N64 emulators had a problem with that last I checked.

[Anonymous No.4668548]

>>4668496
I played through both Kazooie and Tooie about half a year or so ago and did not have any problems. I should also note that I played them on an Athom netbook that couldn't run any game made after 2006 since it lacked actual GPU. Mupen worked surprisingly well though, better framerate than the original hardware had even (next to no FPS drops in places where there were some on original N64)

[Anonymous No.4668586]

My ultra chad brother downloaded pretty much every SNES ROM there is and never has any time to play them. That's the problem with emulation elitists, their eyes are bigger than their stomachs. Unless you're a hyper NEET who looks worse than pic related and your ONLY hobby is retro gaming, you really have no need for that many games. It's literally just a digital dragon's horde.

[Anonymous No.4668595]

>>4668586
That's a good point, but to be fair 90% of that list is either garbage or actually unplayable shit like visual novels and sports games

[Anonymous No.4668598]

>caring about peoples opinions on a mandarin chess forum
the problem with newfags flooding is that they don't understand board culture and posting standards
lurk more

[Anonymous No.4668608]

>i prefer to play on the original console
>implying all consoles were built exactly the same and don't trigger different RNG, etc

[Anonymous No.4668618]

>>4668586
>emulation elitists

>>4668595
>SNES
>90% visual novels and sports games

[Anonymous No.4668625]

>>4668548
That's odd, perhaps it was a video plugin issue then. My game kept freezing every 5-10 minutes at random, couldn't even make it out of the hub. But I was running on a GTX980. I'll have to try again. I've got the original cart and N64 so I can always fall back on that but I don't have a CRT available right this minute.

[Anonymous No.4668628]

>>4668595
Isn't there like a crap ton of RPGs?

[Anonymous No.4668687]

>>4668628
JRPGs

[Anonymous No.4668693]

>>4668687
So...RPG's?

[Anonymous No.4668697]

>>4668628
Most are fan translated.
>>4668618
I forgot EA was Genesis exclusive, but they still made a lot of sports trash on SNES.
Chunsoft invented sound novels with Otogirisou and Kamaitachi no Yoru, and the SNES received dating sim ports like Angelique, Princess Maker and Tokimeki Memorial.

[Anonymous No.4668717]

>>4668618
>>4668697
>SNES VNs
There are not that many, but they certainly exist.
https://vndb.org/v/all?q=&fil=plat-sfc&rfil=&s=title&o=a

[Anonymous No.4668729]

>>4668693
Most JRPGs are not really RPGs.

[Anonymous No.4668730]

>>4668205
Now post it in motion.

[Anonymous No.4668736]

>>4668456
why should I give a shit what casualfags do?

[Anonymous No.4668759]

>>4668729
Pong is an RPG you roleplay as a paddle.

[Anonymous No.4668762]

>>4668759
exactly

[Anonymous No.4668764]

>>4668205
Wtf did you just do to my eyes you little faggot, I'll have you know this looks nothing like even a half-decent *photo* of a real CRT, let alone a good CRT in the flesh.

[Anonymous No.4668790]

>>4667343
This nigga knows

[Anonymous No.4669217]

>>4667064
It's sad that you waited all that time just to try to get the last word in. It's sad that you were actually that angry and embarrassed over getting called out that it bothered you for that long.

[Anonymous No.4669231]

>>4668764
That looks like a crt though

[Anonymous No.4669326]

>>4668586
>>4668595
Not to mention bullshit rom hacks and demo scene cra.
And 15 installments of that chibi baseball series...

[Anonymous No.4669343]

For me the only justification for emulation is because the said game / console is too expensive.
Having the real hardware is nice. Also LCD/LED screens doesnt belong to retrogaming, fuck off.
For example, buying a PS2 and installing OPL is actually cheaper than buying a PC that can run the PS2 emulator. Also PS1 is easy as fuck to find one that runs copies. Or at least where i live it is.
As for NES/SNES/N64/Genesis/Atari most flashcarts have 90-100% of compatibility and is a one-time purchase. And the consoles arent even expensive.
Probably the only systems i agree emulation is the way to go are the NeoGeo and the Saturn, because fuck those prices.

[Anonymous No.4669379]

>>4667219
install the bios

[Anonymous No.4669420]

>>4664582
Is it just me or does /vr/ have the lowest quality trolls?

[Anonymous No.4669448]

Pretending people with different opinions than you have disingenuous reasons for liking something they like is the height of childishness, and shows an inability to understand how someone might have a different perspective than you.

I'll never understand why such a thing is so popular these days.

Bring back visible sage

[Anonymous No.4669452]

>>4667076
Posts like this make this board worth it.

[Anonymous No.4671650]

emulate 3d consoles

play 2d consoles on real hardware

[Anonymous No.4671667]

>>4669448
>Bring back visible sage
Moot made it invisible because idiots like you think it's a downvote.

[Anonymous No.4671685]

>>4669448
It was made invisible because it was being used as a downvote. You could always spot the retard in an argument because he posts over and over while saging.

[Anonymous No.4671696]

Depends on the console.

For Gen 1-4, I agree with your main points.

For Gen 5 onward, #1 can be practically unobtainable for an end user, even an experienced one, depending on the quality of the emeulator and the hardware/software configuration of their device.

I still run into esoteric slowdowns on Mupen on hardware which handles almost anything 100% supported by Dolphin without a hitch, across OSes and computer systems. Frames are apparently rendering okay without skipping, but depending on the video plugin, tearing/skipping still occurs. And trust me, slowdown in OOT is very noticeable.

Why not both a console and an emulator?

[Anonymous No.4671701]

>>4669448
>I'll never understand why such a thing is so popular these days.

It's easier for both the writer and the reader to digest than providing an original thesis.

[Anonymous No.4671715]

>>4665125
you know you could just play emulated games on your crt tv of choice, right?

[Anonymous No.4671734]

>>4669326
don't talk shit about powerful pro yakyuu asshole

[Anonymous No.4673794]

>>4669420
Is it just me or is it mentally unhealthy to still be trying to get the last word in days after the fact?

[Anonymous No.4674007]

nice wagecucks in here convincing themselves they like working since they feel good about buying stuff they never use lmao

[Anonymous No.4674043]

This thread should be permanently stickied.

[Anonymous No.4674087]

>>4668586
Oh my, oh wow. He downloaded a No-Intro or GoodSet pack, things that are literally compressed to less than the size of one modern AAA game. What a dreadful thing. He must've waited like 4-5 business days for his copy to arrive.

[Anonymous No.4674119]

>>4664426
4. i know a large number of people emulate and by pretending i hate it, i can get (you)s

>>4666784
you can like using original hardware without caring that other people emulate.

[Anonymous No.4674197]

>>4664426
I don’t hate emulation but the original experience is usually something that’s worth indulging over it if you have the time and means to do so.

I mean if we’re talking about playing AES games, then yeah, it’s hard to fault an interest in emulating them. If we’re talking about situations like SNES where the hardware, flashcarts, and some of the library are still attainable, it’s harder to instantly default to emulation as the recommended experience unless if you’re just that short on space, money, or time to sit in front of a monitor.

[Anonymous No.4674239]

>>4664445
Emulators generally have less input lag than the actual hardware

[Anonymous No.4674240]

>>4664504
>ps2 emulation are really good now
Its really not

[Anonymous No.4674292]

Being an emucuck is like watching your favourite film on a VHS tape instead of a Blu-Ray disc.

[Anonymous No.4674314]

>>4664445
when will this meme end?

[Anonymous No.4674319]

>>4664426
You have some issues here anon. First you have presented this as only 3 reasons when they are many. Many people have huge collections, some are wealthy and 10k or even 100k isn't the same as to others. The input lag is the killer for real gamers anyway. Undeniable.
T. Old collector

[Anonymous No.4674324]

>>4674239
HahahahajjajahahahaahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahHhahaha man you revealed yourself.

[Anonymous No.4674328]

4. i am a hopelessly broken human being who obsesses far too much about "what the developer intended" to be healthy

[Anonymous No.4674329]

>>4674314
When there is not input lag on mega man games. Emulator people are daft

[Anonymous No.4674332]

>>4674328
Why do purist threaten you so much?

[Anonymous No.4674335]

>>4669231
Looks like a dot matrix display.

[Anonymous No.4674408]

>>4664426
cont
4. Insecure emufags constantly shitpost about how great it is to try to convince themselves

[Anonymous No.4674572]

>>4674324
>1. I'm too retarded to do it it correctly

[Anonymous No.4674621]

I emulate all of 3rd gen, 4th gen and PS1+Saturn. All of these have high quality LLE solutions and I have a great PC. I use shaders or I emulate on my Wii connected to my CRT. I use a flashcart for my N64 because N64 emulation isn't quite there yet for my accuracy demands, I hate plugin based anything and buying N64 carts in current year is expensive because of dipshit millenials who will pay 40 bucks for SM64 to relive their childhood.