Saturn General

[Anonymous No.4660895]

/////// SEGA SATURN GENERAL ///////

No console wars, no shitposting, just discussion about the console, its games, recent pickups, memories, stories and other pleasant ramblings.

~//~ USEFUL RESOURCES ~//~

Recommended Games:
http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Saturn

Hardware Info:
https://segaretro.org/Sega_Saturn/Hardware_comparison

Getting Online with NetLink:
https://dreamcast-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8453

Beginner's Guide:
http://www.racketboy.com/retro/sega-saturn-101-beginners-guide

Software Pricing:
https://www.pricecharting.com/console/sega-saturn

Documentation:
https://antime.kapsi.fi/sega/docs.html

[Anonymous No.4660898]

Nice, I hope this sticks around, would be cool to help encourage more discussion about the SS.

I guess I'll throw in a little story. I had an N64 and PS1 as a kid, but didn't own a Saturn. Around 2009, I was at a friend's place and saw that he had one laying around. I asked him if he still used it and he offered to let me have it for free, gave it to me along with Albert Odyssey, Clockwork Knight, Galactic Attack and Gex. Wasn't the absolute best lineup but it got me started and I fell in love. It's a testament to the quality of the console that I still enjoyed it so much despite having no childhood nostalgia for it.

[Anonymous No.4660913]

No exclusive games list?

[Anonymous No.4660915]

>>4660913
This is my first time doing this general so I just included the basic stuff I could think of off the top of my head. Have a link? I'll add it in next time.

[Anonymous No.4660918]

I think I have every reasonably priced (good) Saturn shmup in my collection:
Terra Diver
Gunbird
Layer Section 1 & 2
Strikers 1945
Thunder Force V
Kingdom Grandprix
Sengoku Blade

Anything i'm missing?

[Anonymous No.4660921]

>>4660913
>>4660915
http://segasaturngroup.proboards.com/thread/6820

This is probably good enough but if you have a better one let me know.

[Anonymous No.4660923]

>>4660918
Galactic Attack / RayForce is very good. I think it goes for around $50~70 depending on condition so it's not too terribly expensive. Check that out maybe.

[Anonymous No.4660928]

I just bought a copy of Shining Force 3 the other day, still waiting for it to show up. I'm ashamed to say I've waited this long to play it, but I'm excited. It's one of those games where I've heard nothing but good stuff about it but I've sort of purposely avoided reading/watching much about it so I wouldn't ruin it for myself. What am I in for? Is it as good as I hear?

[Anonymous No.4660958]

>>4660898
> I asked him if he still used it and he offered to let me have it for free, gave it to me along with Albert Odyssey, Clockwork Knight, Galactic Attack and Gex
that's a good friend

[Anonymous No.4660971]

>>4660895
Why do we need a general for the single most discussed console on /vr/? Literally what is there left to bring to the table

[Anonymous No.4660972]

>>4660923
>RayForce
It's called Layer Section in Japan, hence I already have it.

[Anonymous No.4660978]

>>4660971
This is a safe space zone for SS fans so I guess how the Saturn went in the 5th gen actually won't be discussed here so no shitposting thankfully

[Anonymous No.4661027]

>>4660918

Do you count Assault Suit Leynos 2 as a shmup?

[Anonymous No.4661028]

>>4660915
How about a guide to learning Japanese or becoming Japanese?

[Anonymous No.4661034]

>>4660915

Guide to install Pseudo Saturn would be relevant. Also even though it’s “babby’s first Saturn repair”, a guide for changing the system battery might also be nice.

[Anonymous No.4661052]

>>4661027
Not really but I already have that one as well lol

[Anonymous No.4661127]

>>4661028
Why go trough all that trouble when you can use a translation or a translated script?

[Anonymous No.4661130]

>>4661127
I've played games using scripts, and it's a hassle.
Fan-translations are fine but learning the language (and the culture) is a lot more fulfilling.
Anyway english isn't my first language either, and most english I learned as a kid was thanks to video games, Ocarina of Time in particular.

[Anonymous No.4661151]

>>4661130
Mostly using the script for the story dialogue which probably is full of kanji and shit and learning the basics for combat or menu interface to make it less of a hassle and yeah I too learned english Oot and other games like Pokemon

[Anonymous No.4661152]

Good puzzle game and affordable.

[Anonymous No.4661189]

Were many games only ever released on Saturn? I'v played most of it schmups on mame or other ports, Nights into Dreams on PS3, Panzer Dragoon on OG xbox and Sakura Taisen on PSP. I'm on the fence about getting into the Saturns library but I'm not sure how many games are on it that haven't been ported to other consoles and last time I tried Saturn emulation it was almost unusable.
Japanese only is not an issue for me.

[Anonymous No.4661192]

>>4661189
Panzer Dragoon II Zwei is my favorite PD game and it's exclusive to Saturn to this day

[Anonymous No.4661201]

>>4660978
You’re allowed to develop an affinity for a console you missed out on when it was new. For me, I wasn’t even aware of the Saturn’s existence until late 6th gen, and I personally consider it the most worthwhile 5th gen console to own physical games for right now since it has so many unported exclusives and had shoddy emulation until mednafen came along.

Granted, someone not willing to put up with Japanese or else lacking a Scrooge McDuck-style money vault may not see things the same way, but it’s possible to like something while acknowledging that it wasn’t the right product for its time.

[Anonymous No.4661209]

>>4661192
Is it playable on any emulator? Saturn emulation was abysmal last time I tried it.

[Anonymous No.4661230]

Any anons here played Dragon Forces? I loved the shit our of the first one. But could I just burn the translated image of the second game and put it in my saturn (U-80008 by the way.)

[Anonymous No.4661284]

[Anonymous No.4661287]

[Anonymous No.4661303]

I never was a Sega fan but I do consider myself a Segata Sanshiro fan, one of the brightest marketing ideas ever.

Seeing him in Project X Zone 2 brought a huge smile to my face, this guy represents videogames themselves.

[Anonymous No.4661468]

>>4661028
>becoming Japanese

[Anonymous No.4661483]

Best 5th gen system. Fuck the Sony fanboys on this board.

[Anonymous No.4661505]

>>4661284
Delete this

[Anonymous No.4661537]

>>4661284
Was hoping you'd post this again my friend. I like that you made these. I'm going to upload them to imgur or something and put them as links in the next thread.

[Anonymous No.4661541]

>>4661230
I've been wanting to play it for like 5 years but never got around to it. I think I'm going to buy a copy soon and finally get into it, it looks awesome.

[Anonymous No.4661545]

>>4660971
>Why do we need a general for the single most discussed console on /vr/?
If you don't have anything meaningful to contribute, filter the thread and go about your day. If anything, you should be happy that there's a "containment" thread if you really think it's talked about too much already (which is bullshit as the PS1 and N64 are discussed way, way more anyway).

[Anonymous No.4661601]

>>4661537
Actually for once I didn't post it myself. But if you are going to upload the animated charts somewhere, please make sure you use the most up-to-date version, by checking the timestamp in the lower left corner.

This one >>4661284 is an unfinished draft that I just posted in a thread while I was seeking feedback. Many of the JP games are missing cover art and the list has not been alphabetized. Timetamp is February of last year so you can tell it is old.
This one >>4661287 is the latest version, with a timestamp from June.

[Anonymous No.4661702]

>>4661601
Good to know, I'll use the most updated one.

[Anonymous No.4661723]

Saturn is the only console I don't have any experience at all with. That's mostly because apparently emulation is hell to set up? Has it progressed to a decent extent in the last few years? Or better, is there a way to pirate games decently on real hardware? If that were the case, I'd be happy to buy one.

[Anonymous No.4661737]

>>4661723
>Has it progressed to a decent extent in the last few years?
The old Japanese emulator SSF always worked fine for many games, but the major development of the last few years has been the Mednafen Saturn core, which is under active development and already has the best compatibility and performance as far as I know.

>is there a way to pirate games decently on real hardware?
Cheap modchips exist and are easy to install because they plug into a ribbon cable, so there is less soldering involved. There is also an expensive drive-replacement board that lets you load games from an SD card, but it is hard to get.

[Anonymous No.4661779]

>>4661723
>Has it progressed to a decent extent in the last few years?
It’s improved noticeably since mednafen came along, but still not terribly accurate and some games still glitch a bit

>Or better, is there a way to pirate games decently on real hardware? If that were the case, I'd be happy to buy one.
Look into PseudoSaturn, especially if you want to avoid chipping or hardmodding your console.

[Anonymous No.4661824]

I had a thread up earlier but I really want to stress again that I rather quite like Last Bronx

[Anonymous No.4661847]

>>4661130
Because there aren't a whole lot of translations available and they aren't a good substitute to begin with.

[Anonymous No.4661914]

>>4661779
Pseudo Saturn looks really cool, but I hate how the carts cost more than the fucking console.

[Anonymous No.4661956]

>>4661914

The Action Replay carts? I got a clone for like ten bucks from amazon, they're either still being produced or there's warehouses full of 'em somewhere. Heartily recommend it, you can utilize the extra save space on-top of Psuedosaturn now as well.

[Anonymous No.4661963]

>>4661956
How does that work? The clone carts have a USB port or something?

[Anonymous No.4661971]

>>4661956
>>4661963
I'm interested in this too. So I know it lets you play games region free, but it comes with some kind of software too right? Does that mean you can play burnt games or something?

[Anonymous No.4662217]

>>4661963

It depends on what you buy. If you flash PseudoSaturn to an AR, you have RAM cart support but no save support. If you get a Saturn Gamer's Cartridge, you have save support but no RAM cart support.

There's supposed to be a cart in the pipeline by the SGC creator that will unify both featuresets called Wasca, but its progress is about as opaque and slow as that of the Satiator ODE, so you'll potentially be waiting a while to see anything come of it.

[Anonymous No.4662747]

Does anybody have a good resource / specs for printing replacement box art? I have a bunch of loose games and I'd like to whip up a few ghetto replacements with some empty longboxes and printer paper.

[Anonymous No.4662761]

>>4661468
What an ugly group.

[Anonymous No.4662885]

>>4662747

http://www.thecoverproject.net/

Boom

[Anonymous No.4663168]

>>4662217
The RAM cart is unnecessary. Only a handful of Capcom and snk games use it, all which you can just play MAME with less bugs, less missing animation, and a more stable frame rate.

[Anonymous No.4663253]

>>4663168
>emulation
>less bugs

Also, the SNK and Capcom games I played on Saturn that use the extra RAM don't have any missing animations or non-stable framerate. What are you talking about anon?

[Anonymous No.4663402]

>>4660928
If you like SRPGs is great, some battles throw stuff at you that you wont know how to deal with first time (like the rail head bit)
A fair bit of hidden stuff

Play it without a guide first, then try it with
Good bit of advice is dont promote right away, get them to about level 15 first and dont let anyone die.

Playing scenario 2 for the first time and finding it,

Not as good

[Anonymous No.4663406]

>>4661127
Or use Google translate thats on most Android phones, it isn't perfect but it gives you the gist of what it says

[Anonymous No.4663413]

>>4663406
You get something that you may make sense off but it's rarely the original meaning, particularly since they don't pay attention to context or other relevant info.
Plus you practically have to play via AR glasses.
What's the harm from knowing Japanese?

[Anonymous No.4663427]

>>4663406
I tried (Knowing I was gonna get Vietnamese crytal tier dialogue) and it's very annoying to use your phone everytime text appears,I didn't tried with glasses maybe I should,Is there way to quick translate game and turning them into Vietnamese crystal tier dialogue?Just for fun and is better than not understanding shit

[Anonymous No.4663883]

>>4663253
He's an emulation evangelist if you couldn't tell. Ignore him, he will hiss and spit and then walk away with his head down after getting a few words out.

[Anonymous No.4664281]

Alright guys, so I've got a question. I just bought a Saturn and it's in pretty good condition, but it has some scuffs and scratches as is par for the course. I want to make it look beautiful again. I've looked up plenty of guides and videos and the like, but most of them just tell you the common sense shit like q-tips, rubbing alcohol, washing the plastic, magic eraser, etc. I'm looking for more advanced methods, maybe ways of helping to obscure scratches and restore the sheen of the plastic, things like that. If anybody has some resources or suggestions I would be highly appreciative.

[Anonymous No.4664351]

>>4664281
You want something that fills the scratches like in cars?

[Anonymous No.4664363]

>>4664351
>You want something that fills the scratches like in cars?
I thought maybe there was something you could do to give the plastic to give it a smoother finish and obscure the rough edges of the scratches, like a special coating or spray or whatever. I know it sounds kind of silly but I'm sure something like that must exist. I've seen some people use WD-40 for such a purpose but that would probably fuck up your plastic over time so I'm looking for more of a proper alternative.

[Anonymous No.4665061]

[Anonymous No.4665067]

>>4665061

[Anonymous No.4665087]

>>4665067

Do you guys ever think that Japan is a silly place.

[Anonymous No.4665096]

>>4665087
https://www.techinasia.com/japan-used-panty-vending-machines-fact-fiction

Japan is a fucking bizarre place. And I love it for that exact reason.

[Anonymous No.4665146]

>>4660895
Remember when Classic Game Room was good?
https://youtu.be/Fo0JWIYZibs
This video is 9 years old

[Anonymous No.4665147]

>>4665146
Just watched that the other day. Honestly I think he was starting to have money troubles and felt like he had to put on this wacky personality to attract views. Kind of sad. CGR was great, but it all started to go down hill when the reviews went from being semi-informative to downright retarded. Also that "CGR Undertow" shit is cancer, nobody likes listening to that faggot.

[Anonymous No.4665191]

>>4661034
Holy shit anon thank you so much. Why? Because I thought you needed to solder a chip into the Saturn to mod it based on research from when I bought a Saturn on a whim like 10 years ago. I no longer have that Saturn since I gave it to a friend, but I will be using that Pseudo Saturn mod next time I decide to pick one up. A softmod makes a new Saturn a higher priority as well...

[Anonymous No.4665309]

>>4665191

I had a buddy solder the chip onto my saturn. It's actually pretty easy all in all. Didn't take any time at all.

[Anonymous No.4666270]

man what could have been

[Anonymous No.4666297]

>>4666270
>Shenmue
And nothing of value was lost.

[Anonymous No.4666308]

>>4666297
>Dissing Shenmue

Where the fuck do you think you are, faggot?

[Anonymous No.4666312]

>>4666308
Sorry but I play games to have fun.

[Anonymous No.4666314]

>>4666297
Something of memories was lost, child.

[Anonymous No.4666339]

if a rom has (RE) what does that mean? Reproduction? Why dump a repro?

and what does (1m), (2m), (3m), and (4m) mean? I see this with many Japanese roms.

[Anonymous No.4666354]

>>4666339
>Why dump a repro?
Lmao, you know repros are using the same data as the real game right? It's not like making a repro of a game means you are altering the ROM...

[Anonymous No.4666363]

>>4660928
>Is it as good as I hear?
Probably not no. It's alright but SF2 is a lot better.
>>4661209
When did you try it? 1999? Saturn emulation has been good since about 2004/2005.
>>4661230
Yeah but you'd need a mod chip or swap trick for it to work.
>>4661723
>emulation is hell to set up
Nah it's easy. Mednafen made it even easier and now even normies can do it.
>>4663253
He might be talking about the SNK ports, they only used 1MB extra ram and are missing tonnes of animation and in some cases the sprites are just awful looking (waku waku 7)
>>4666270
It came out on dreamcast and was far superior as a result.

[Anonymous No.4666371]

>>4666363
>It came out on dreamcast and was far superior as a result.

I just find it really interesting that they even had it as an idea for the saturn. It would have needed an 8meg ram expansion and would have been a lot of discs but it's really fascinating how they would have gone about it

[Anonymous No.4666425]

>>4666354
but in order to make a repro you need an original dump, so why the fuck would you fucking dump the repro...

it's not like I'm talking about games that don't have a non repo dump, I only see that (RE) shit along with dumps without it.

I mean, even if that (RE) even stands for repro, which I'm not sure of

[Anonymous No.4666428]

>>4666425
also those (RE) roms have a different file size than the non (RE) roms so there is something different about them

[Anonymous No.4666624]

>>4666371
c.f. Mizzurna Falls

[Anonymous No.4666625]

>>4666428
It probably doesn't stand for repro. That other guy wasn't answering your question, he was just calling you out.

[Anonymous No.4666747]

nobody knows what those suffixes mean. emugen doesnt. there's not a single useful result on google. no other rom set uses them. fuck, I guess I'll just let that shit waste space on my drive just in case

[Anonymous No.4666826]

>>4666363
>He might be talking about the SNK ports, they only used 1MB extra ram and are missing tonnes of animation
I heard some of them do, yeah. Actually the only SNK game I played on Saturn so far is Real Bout Special, and as far as I can tell it has complete animations, but it has loading times.

[Anonymous No.4667285]

>>4666826

I played a bit of SamSho4 and the sprites where constantly blotting out into their hit boxes.

[Anonymous No.4667670]

>>4666747
I couldn't figure out what (RE) means (probably just "redump" i.e. somebody didn't like the older ROM for some reason and made their own), but quick googling revealed the 1m, 2m 3m stuff probably just means multilingual ROMs with that many extra languages.

[Anonymous No.4668943]

[Anonymous No.4669065]

Has anyone tried one of those Saturn USB controllers? I love the Saturn dpad and using a good copy with non Saturn games would be great

[Anonymous No.4669282]

>>4669065

I had a Saturn to USB adapter, I forgot where I got it but it worked okay.

[Anonymous No.4669980]

Ended up picking up a Saturn last year for cheap only to realise I had no games. Got Bust-a-Move 2 and Sonic 3D Blast for cheapness sake, only to say "Fuck this noise," and followed it up with a CIB copy of Burning Rangers. Then the console stopped reading discs.

Spent more time looking up the console's inner workings than playing its games. Found out it was the laser assembly acting up, so I just bought another jacked up Saturn to swap out laser assemblies. Second one came in box with the booklets, Saturn stickers, demos, and Christmas NiGHTS. Before it arrived yesterday I tried fixing the first one; turns out I just needed to adjust the focus or whatever. So now I have a working Saturn and one with a fucked up VDP1 chip for no fucking reason.

[Anonymous No.4669985]

>>4669980
What makes you think the VDP1 is fucked? How is that related to the laser? Are you sure the lens just isn't dirty? Just fix any issues, swap out the best parts from both and sell the leftover console to recoup your losses.

[Anonymous No.4669994]

>>4669985
The first Saturn wouldn't spin the disc, which could indicate an issue with the laser, which was the case, as it just needed to focus. The second Saturn reads the discs and displays the 2D graphics correctly, but only the 3D graphics look garbled. I checked the laser assembly, it seems fine, the VDP1 chip looks like it either overheated or someone tried resoldering it and failed. Now it just shows Saturn logo (with more heavily garbled 3D behind it) and blackscreens.

[Anonymous No.4670039]

Morning Saturn General,

As a kid, I had both an NES and Genesis. Though I had a ton of NES games, the Genesis always won me over because of the Sonic games.

I was never interested in a Saturn as a kid, but for some reason, for the past 3-4 years, I've kinda been wanting a Saturn.

I don't know what it's best games are (I only know a few off the top of my head: Sonic CD, Battle Monsters, uh...), but I kinda want one just to have one.

But also, I heard a few years ago when I was really into /vr/ that the Saturn can be made to play Japanese games. I really like how the JP Saturn cases look like and have heard that they have way more games to play. I mean look at them!

Sorry for blogposting but I will know explore the links in the OP.

[Anonymous No.4670067]

>>4670039
Sonic CD is on Sega CD, not Saturn.
Saturn has Sonic Jam, but sadly Sonic CD wasn't included there (that would have been too awesome)

[Anonymous No.4670072]

>>4670039
Morning anon. So I was actually in a similar boat for awhile. I grew up with a PS1/N64 and didn't even know the Saturn existed until about 2008. Around that time I started developing more of interest in niche consoles. Started doing some research, and the Saturn immediately stuck out. I tell you all of this so that you know I'm not speaking from a nostalgic standpoint when I say that it's a great console and definitely worth owning. With that said, there are some things to consider.

So first off, games. Many of the console's best games are arcade ports, or at least very arcade-like in nature. If you like fighters, shmups, racers, etc., this is the console for you. With that said, there are plenty of other great games: good ports of Quake and Duke Nukem 3D, platformers like Rayman and Clockwork Knight, RPGs like Shining Force III, and even something of a Zelda-like in Legend of Oasis. As you mentioned, you'll want to import Japanese games, as the western library is a bit smaller and a lot of good Japanese games didn't make it to the west, but there are plenty of good NTSC-U games regardless.

There's one catch: price. As consoles go, the Saturn is one of the more expensive to buy for. Typically speaking, a CIB copy of most games will range anywhere from $80 to $300. So, your best bet is either to get a modded console that can play burnt games, or buy loose discs (which are much cheaper).

If that doesn't turn you away, this console has a lot to give. It's an incredibly sturdy machine, it has built-in memory, perhaps the best 2D controller ever made, a really cool system menu, and there are even a few games that support online play. It's really a nifty little system with a lot of cool quirks.

If you have any particular questions or want game suggestions, let me know.

[Anonymous No.4670095]

>>4670072
>CIB copy of most games will range anywhere from $80 to $300

this is bullshit

[Anonymous No.4670112]

>>4670067
>Sonic CD is on Sega CD, not Saturn.

Crap, got mixed up with all the freaking peripherals Sega pumped out during that time period.

>>4670072
>a CIB copy of most games will range anywhere from $80 to $300
Ouch that stings. I don't know if I can justify that. Lemme take a look at some eBay listings or something.

>>4670095
I just looked for Burning Rangers on eBay. People are asking $300+ for the US version. $170 just for the Disc.

What the...

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1311.R1.TR5.TRC1.A0.H0.Xburning+ran.TRS0&_nkw=burning+rangers&_sacat=0

[Anonymous No.4670126]

>>4670112
>>4670072
Yeah, I'm good with the Sega Saturn. Way too expensive to try and collect. Just too much. Even SPORTS games are $15+. Clockwork Knight $90.

[Anonymous No.4670159]

>>4670112
Yep. Burning Rangers is fucking ridiculously priced, I got my CIB copy for $230. The game's okay but I love the soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDWsZh9qXsQ

[Anonymous No.4670162]

>>4670159
>I love the soundtrack.

I LOVE that song dude. And the art. That's why I was hype if I could get it for relatively cheap.

I had that song on my phone for a long ass time. Shame Spotify doesn't do much in the VGM department. Thanks for sharing again, been a while since I heard that.

[Anonymous No.4670164]

>>4670162
Found it on Spotify actually.

[Anonymous No.4670168]

>>4670162
I remember hearing it for the first time playing Phantasy Star Online for the Dreamcast in a downloadable quest. Putting out fires in the first level and saving civilians, all while that song fucking played in the background -- it's an amazing memory. So when I saw BR for under $300 I had to jump on it.

Here's another good song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVHiQB-9wOM

[Anonymous No.4670183]

>>4670112
>buying physical Saturn games for a format other than NTSC-J
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.4670191]

>>4670183
Shiiit baby I don't even try to pay that much for new games.

[Anonymous No.4670194]

>>4670183
>Implying I can understand moonspeak

[Anonymous No.4670557]

>>4670159

I just had my system modded to play "back ups" recently and yeah it's an good game I actually like a lot but 300 bucks. fucking crazy.

[Anonymous No.4670559]

>>4670194

Sega was still a pretty hardcore "arcade" mindset around this point so a good number of games are very import friendly. I don't think BR is really one of them compared to the others but it's not hard to power through it.

[Anonymous No.4670654]

>>4663253
>Also, the SNK and Capcom games I played on Saturn that use the extra RAM don't have any missing animations or non-stable framerate

Then you haven't played the originals. Metal Slug is missing half the animation frames, Cyberbots has an edited intro, Xmen and Marvel vs SF both have sprite flickering and framerate drops when the action is hectic, all CPS2 games run in the wrong resolution, Vampire Savior has different sounding cutscene music (they used the Saturn synth for the VS screen and character win screens), and that's just from the top of my head.

[Anonymous No.4670658]

>>4666363
>and in some cases the sprites are just awful looking (waku waku 7)

Oh, I forgot about that one. It actually has most animation intact as far as I can tell, instead it has the backgrounds turned into Commodore 64 quality.

[Anonymous No.4670678]

>>4670095
>this is bullshit
Uh no it's not.

[Anonymous No.4670684]

>>4670126
Sega Rally, Virtua Cop, and Virtua Fighter 2 are cheap. Fighters Megamix, Panzer Zwei, and NiGHTS are cheap if you import.

[Anonymous No.4670697]

>>4670678
it is. Akumajo Dracula X is the only game ive paid over 40€. most of them were 8-20€

[Anonymous No.4670718]

Looking at picking up a Saturn now that I know HD Retrovision cables work on my receiver and look fucking gorgeous. Most vibrant shit I've ever seen from a Genesis.

Why are fucking Saturns now like 100 dollars?

Months ago they were maybe 50.

[Anonymous No.4670725]

>>4670718

Gee it's almost like price goes up with rarity.

[Anonymous No.4670757]

>>4670725
no. I wanted one.

[Anonymous No.4670769]

>>4670718
Because you're either buying for the wrong region or not looking hard enough.

Tested Japanese machines with just console and no cables are going for $50 BIN.

[Anonymous No.4670805]

>>4670654
>all CPS2 games run in the wrong resolution, Vampire Savior has different sounding cutscene music
That's just nitpicking irrelevant stuff, have nothing to do with missing animations or framedrops.
If the sound was awful, or the resolution made the too different from the original, I would concede, but nah.

[Anonymous No.4670808]

>>4670697
Unless you're talking about solely Japanese releases or shovelware, you are wrong. Just take a look at prices on eBay.

[Anonymous No.4670824]

>>4670769
>Japanese Sega Saturn
No. I want a black American one.

[Anonymous No.4670825]

>>4670824
Rude dog was rad as fuck

[Anonymous No.4670839]

>>4670825
don't you mean rude as fuck?

[Anonymous No.4670882]

>>4669980
>Second one came in box with the booklets, Saturn stickers, demos, and Christmas NiGHTS
I'd be pretty happy to buy a broken Saturn with all that

[Anonymous No.4670973]

>>4670718
Given that there weren't all that many units made to begin with and the console is almost 25 years old, $100 isn't bad. Also you need to look harder. I just bought a Saturn in near-perfect condition with all hookups and a controller for $90 after shipping. The deals are there, you just have to be discretionary.

[Anonymous No.4670980]

Just started playing this again today. I had it like 10 years ago but forgot almost everything about it, and going back now reminds me of what makes it so great. Absolutely kicks the shit out of the average Zelda game and stuff like Alundra. I forgot how richly interactive and detailed the world was. So awesome.

[Anonymous No.4671125]

>>4670805
>That's just nitpicking irrelevant stuff

It means the games aren't arcade perfect, and the resolution change means the game is in the wrong aspect and has either smaller arenas or you can walk out of the screen more (at least one game, X-men cota, allows you to pick).

>If the sound was awful
They are all notably lower quality, depending on game it can be more or less.

>have nothing to do with missing animations or framedrops.

Go play Marvel Super Heroes with the ram cart.

[Anonymous No.4671253]

>>4671125
>It means the games aren't arcade perfect
We weren't talking about "arcade perfect", we were talking about missing animations and framedrops, you just moved the goalpost yourself without consulting.
>and the resolution change means the game is in the wrong aspect and has either smaller arenas or you can walk out of the screen more (at least one game, X-men cota, allows you to pick).
Vampire Savior and other Capcom fighters also have the "arcade screen" mode. Anyway, as I said, it's not something that greatly changes the original game. It's a nitpick.
>Go play Marvel Super Heroes with the ram cart.
I was talking mostly about Vampire Savior, I haven't tried MSH on Saturn yet.

[Anonymous No.4671496]

>>4670757

Well too bad. You missed your chance and now we all have one and you don't.

[Anonymous No.4671706]

Does anyone know why Pseudo Saturn doesn't support saving on this thing? I replaced the save battery on my Saturn and I'm running out of space on the internal memory.

[Anonymous No.4671914]

Post and rate.

[Anonymous No.4671917]

>>4671706
Clean your console you fucking swine.

[Anonymous No.4671924]

Just started playing this. Gotta' say... I'm pretty underwhelmed. I knew it had problems with framerate and whatnot, but god damn, what a dark, ugly, janky piece of shit this is. You can't even dick around with the cheats because you have to enter them inhumanly fast for them to even work. Are PowerSlave and Duke worth checking out if I hate this?

[Anonymous No.4672251]

>>4671496
NO

[Anonymous No.4672274]

I've always wanted Dragon Force after seeing a rolling demo on Sega Flash 2.

Is it actually a good game?

[Anonymous No.4672349]

>>4671706
Because the firmware uses the save space. Just get a separate save cart, they're cheap as chips from Japan.

Also >>4671917

[Anonymous No.4672352]

>>4671924
Why did you want to play quake on a console anyway?

[Anonymous No.4672687]

>>4671924
It's more a "it does somehow work" than a game. Fantastic as a demo but kinda unfair towards the players.

[Anonymous No.4672693]

Forgot - yes, Powerslave is a really good game. Duke is ok.

[Anonymous No.4672705]

>>4671924
Trolls and lies. The color is far better on Quake for the saturn. Can't you understand wanting to kick back on the couch and enjoy? Or sometimes I go on my knees in front of the screen and stare at the screen from 1 inch away and take in all the color. The console version is better than the PC for the color, some red tint on some textures. And they took away annoying advanced lighting and now it's simpler, simplicity is best

[Anonymous No.4672710]

>>4660928
Shining Force III is good alright, if you play all the scenarios and not just the localized one with the removed plot points.
Scenario 3 is fucking great, and probably one of the best SRPG experiences I ever had.
When the 3 armies join together, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.4672735]

>>4671924
Actually I take it back. It's starting to grow on me a bit. Still pretty janky and that perspective warping on the walls is cancerous, but there's something kind of charming about it. I like the way the guns feel compared to the other versions.

[Anonymous No.4672740]

>>4672705
are you the same guy that had a tantrum in that quake 2 psx thread?

[Anonymous No.4672907]

>>4672687
>It's more a "it does somehow work" than a game.

Nah, it's also a good game, and back in 1997 it was one of the most impressive versions of Quake, with the coloured lightning and all.

[Anonymous No.4672913]

>>4672907
It is a good game, but I wouldn't call it "one of the most impressive versions" given that there are only 3 versions and it's the most downgraded.

[Anonymous No.4672926]

>>4671253
>we were talking about missing animations and framedrops,
And I mentioned some and you derided that I am just nitpicking.

Metal Slug has half the animations missing and some graphics lining up wrong. Marvel Super Heroes is missing 2/3rds of the frames without the card, runs at 5fps with it. Waku Waku 7 has 8-bit backgrounds. Marvel vs SF has flicking sprites whenever there are too many on screen (do a win with a team super), and it frequently drops the framerate of the game to half to keep up with the action. When you win with a team super, and it shows the attack name, sometimes they don't even fit in the screen due to the resolution. X-men vs SF may have all those problems too since both games are practically just character and background swaps.

All of those games use the RAM carts.

>We weren't talking about "arcade perfect"
I was, from the beginning.

All those Saturn ports were great FOR THE TIME, back when a typical arcade port ran half the resolution, half the colours, used either 1khz samples or FM synth sound, and had voices/characters/backgrounds missing. Coming from all of those, from the 16bit era, the Saturn arcade ports are a gigantic step up. But they are NOT perfect, they have tons of flaws and changes from the original games. We have actual arcade perfect ports now on more modern systems, as well as the ability to perfectly emulate the arcade originals. So praising the Saturn ports as "perfect" in this day and age comes off as nothing more than just buyers regret over your hundred-dollar-plus games not playing as good as you'd expect them to be.

[Anonymous No.4672936]

>>4672926
>Metal Slug has half the animations missing and some graphics lining up wrong.
Who the fuck even notices or cares about this kind of thing? Get some sunshine.

[Anonymous No.4672947]

>>4672926
>And I mentioned some and you derided that I am just nitpicking.
I was talking about you nitpicking the sound/screen ratio of Vampire Savior, which doesn't have any missing animation or framedrop. I was never talking about "arcade perfect". I only pointed out that the games I played that use the extra RAM, like Vampire Savior, or Real Bout Special, don't have missing animations as far as I can tell.

[Anonymous No.4672961]

>>4672936
>Who the fuck even notices or cares about this kind of thing?

Missing animation messes up hitboxes. But more importantly, one of the biggest charms of Metal Slug is the absolutely incredible 2d animation: taking out half of that is taking out half the game.

Not that it matters because the game has MASSIVE slowdown on Saturn. Any time you have more than a few soldiers on screen, the game runs at 10fps. Yes, the original MVS version has slowdowns too, but not even half as much as the Saturn port.

>>4672947
OK, so you played two games which played fine, so all others must be perfect then. Do you have any actual, logical arguments, or do you only have personal anecdotes and "who even notices or cares about this"?

[Anonymous No.4672967]

>>4672961
>so all others must be perfect then
There you are again with the "perfect" thing. I was just discussing the animation frames/framerate thing, I originally replied to this post: >>4663168
>all of which you can play MAME with less bugs, less missing animation, and a more stable frame rate.
So yeah, evidently not "all of which".
Maybe you weren't even that anon, I don't know, but that's what I was originally arguing about, not about "arcade perfect" stuff.

[Anonymous No.4673125]

What are the best SHMUPS for a beginner to play on the Saturn?

[Anonymous No.4673164]

>>4671917
I horse-laughed, but strongly support your message, anon!

[Anonymous No.4673374]

>>4673164
I just don't get people who don't take care of their shit, video game consoles or otherwise. If you spend money on something, do you want it to last as long as possible, give you the most enjoyment and at least look aesthetically pleasing? It takes 30 fucking seconds to take a rag and give your console a little wipe down every week, and once every few years take it apart and give it a good cleaning. It's not hard. When I see a pic like that, I see a person with a cluttered mind who probably takes care of his things about as well as he takes care of himself.

[Anonymous No.4673449]

>>4671924
Funny you bring this up, I bought a copy a week or so ago and just got around to playing it too. I had a thread about it but it died already. Personally, I think it's pretty cool. My only real complaint is that there seems to be a lot of shimmering and some weird visual stuff. Aside from that, I enjoy it more than PC in some ways. I feel like people blow the framerate issues way out of proportion, it feels pretty smooth to me. Also, the atmosphere is fucking awesome. Really dark and brooding but also colorful. Definitely the best shooter on the system.

[Anonymous No.4673557]

>>4670980
So happy to know someone else is enjoying this gem. I'm playing through it right now, no clue how this isn't as up there are Crusader of Centy and other zelda clones.

[Anonymous No.4673686]

>>4673557
Yep, it's a great game. Super lush graphics, good audio, good controls, fun gameplay that's similar to Zelda but offers it own unique twists, etc. My only complaint is all of the egregious typos. Were it not for that, it would be almost a perfect game.

[Anonymous No.4673758]

>>4673686

I played the shit out of the Genesis one but never finished this one. I really should.

[Anonymous No.4673847]

>>4667285
That's a problem with the cart. Sometimes with action replay carts that will happen, but the 1mb it shouldn't.
If it does happen with 1mb cart, pull it out and put it back in again.

I had the same issue, so I changed replay cart to 1mb and bam! Sprites working as normal

[Anonymous No.4674614]

>>4673847

Now this is dumb sounding, but mid game? For whatever reason I always assumed yanking the PRA out is a bad idea

[Anonymous No.4674616]

What are the best Japan-only games?

[Anonymous No.4674674]

>>4674616
A lot of the JP exclusive shmups are great and obviously language isn't really much a barrier to enjoying them
Princess Crown is also pretty good. Scenario 2 and 3 of Shining Force III were also JP exclusive but they have a fairly good fan transtion now

[Anonymous No.4674773]

>>4670980
I disagree. Pretty unimpressive considering the same year OoT was released. A 2d zelda clone impresses you when when you have full 3d happening elsewhere?

[Anonymous No.4675214]

>>4674773
>this game sucks because, if we were still living in 1998, a totally different game would be coming out on a different system later that year
Are you functionally retarded or what?

[Anonymous No.4675236]

>>4675214
Huh? Are you stupid? A 2d zelda clone in 1998 wasn't impressive.

[Anonymous No.4675240]

>>4675214
>>4675236
In fact Donkey Kong Country was better and better looking than that shit, and DKC came out 4 years earlier.

[Anonymous No.4675697]

[Anonymous No.4675716]

>>4661824
Great fighter, wish we'd see it come back at some point.

[Anonymous No.4675719]

>>4675716

I still don't understand why it didn't get at least one sequel. Even if it didn't do well in the US it was pretty huge back in Japan, getting a whole bunch of tie ins and even a (woeful) live action movie. I can't imagine a Dreamcast sequel wasn't on the table, even Fighting Vipers got one. Which I really should get around to playing one of these days.

[Anonymous No.4675720]

>>4675236
>Are you stupid?
No, are you? I repeat, we aren't living in 1998 anymore retard. I don't give a fuck what was revolutionary 20 years ago, I care about what's worth playing in 2018. Oasis might have seemed unimpressive compared to Ocarina at the time, but 20 years later it holds up better graphically and it isn't any less of a fun game. How many paint chips do you eat exactly?

[Anonymous No.4675721]

>>4675697
I remember this picture as a thumbnail in a old gamefan as a thumbnail in a review of Fighters Megamix.. how does one, 20 years later, get a full resolution picture of this? Blows my mind. I mean I've seen this a thousand times reading the same mags on the toilet for 20 years but somehow this fullblown picture exists.. please enlighten me anon

[Anonymous No.4675727]

It sucks that they never went further with this. A full game using the Sonic World engine would have been amazing. The graphics were so aesthetically pleasing, and controlling Sonic felt really good.

[Anonymous No.4675729]

>>4675721

Well you can try running things through Waifu2x, though it doesn't always work super well. Gave it the ol college try here though. Seems alright. Best I can do really.

[Anonymous No.4675740]

>>4675720
Found a pic of you playing Oasis on an emulator. No, Oasis doesn't hold up today unfortunately. OoT is an all time classic though, many people's favorite game of all time in fact.

[Anonymous No.4675758]

>>4675740
>find pic of retarded guy
>LOL THIS IS YOU
Whooo, sick burn.
>No, Oasis doesn't hold up today unfortunately.
Yeah actually it does. Pretty sure beautiful 2D graphics hold up a lot better than early polygons running at 20fps my dude.
>OoT is an all time classic though, many people's favorite game of all time in fact.
You're right, it's a great game, and I get to enjoy both on original hardware while you talk shit about a game you haven't even played.

[Anonymous No.4675787]

>>4675758

Stop replying to Nintendoposters

[Anonymous No.4675791]

>>4675787
You're right of course, I just hate seeing stupidity go unpunished.

[Anonymous No.4676249]

>>4675721
I think he got the 1024x768 desktop image from the LZH archive file on the game disc. I think this image appeared after you beat the arcade mode with Honey in the Euro/Japanese versions, but it was changed for the North American release probably because someone felt it was too risqué.

[Anonymous No.4676258]

Replaced the battery in my Saturn and started playing the Policenauts translation. Great so far, just wish I could use a light gun on my TV.

[Anonymous No.4676265]

>>4660895
I have the white Japanese Sega Saturn. I originally owned a black American Sega Saturn. Games I have for Saturn include Fighters Megamix, Virtua Fighter 2, Resident Evil, Batman Forever The Arcade Game, Mortal Kombat Trilogy, Street Fighter The Movie, House Of The Dead, Virtua Cop, Virtual On & Nights.

[Anonymous No.4676292]

>>4676265
Nice, now you just need to get some of the big hitters like Guardian Heroes, Dragon Force, etc. I'm personally fond of Albert Odyssey, fucking amazing music.

[Anonymous No.4676306]

>>4675697

[Anonymous No.4676308]

>>4676292
I plan on it. :) I have Guardian Heroes on Xbox Live Arcade, but I plan on buying the physical copy for Saturn.

[Anonymous No.4676345]

>>4671914
I gotchu

5/5 - Guardian, DoA, VS, PD2, SF Z3

[Anonymous No.4676361]

>>4676345
>Albert Odyssey

[Anonymous No.4676386]

>>4675729
I guess what I'm asking is, what is the origin of the picture? I thought it was just a promotional picture. Or is it a screenshot from FMM?

[Anonymous No.4676389]

>>4676249
thanks man, case closed!

[Anonymous No.4676397]

>>4676361

[Anonymous No.4676425]

I come back to the Saturn emulation from time to time, but no matter how many times I go through its catalog there's just nothing to play. There's barely anything left once you take out the arcade ports which are better played on Mame/Model 2 Emulator and the games which are just better or more convenient to play on their PS1 versions. And I already played the likes of the Panzer Dragoon trilogy, Nights and Fighters Megamix enough back in the day. Compared to the Mega Drive, for which I discovered a bunch of great games over the years, the only hidden gem I found for the Saturn (that's still fun to play today) was Bulk Slash. It's a shame, because I have a usb adapter for the controller and the idea of playing those chunky games appeals to me, but once I sit down to actually do it I realize I'd rather play something else.

>>4676306
How horrifying.

[Anonymous No.4676498]

>>4675727
>It sucks that they never went further with this. A full game using the Sonic World engine would have been amazing.

That's the same engine they used in Nights, and they later ported it to Dreamcast and ran Sonic Adventure on it.

[Anonymous No.4676767]

>>4676498

We still needed that proper saturn sonic game

[Anonymous No.4676878]

>>4670824
hey dweebs
ya think ya hot shit, dont ya?

[Anonymous No.4676924]

Id like to get a Japanese saturn for the white shell but I don't really like the color of the power and rest buttons

[Anonymous No.4677305]

>>4676345
What website did you use to make this?

[Anonymous No.4677314]

>>4675758
>Yeah actually it does. Pretty sure beautiful 2D graphics hold up a lot better than early polygons running at 20fps my dude.
Well the rest of the world disagrees with you. OoT is a classic, might be the best video game of all time. It holds up fine.
Oasis is a forgotten, mediocre, 2d, 7/10 game

[Anonymous No.4677337]

>>4677305
https://bighugelabs.com/mosaic.php

[Anonymous No.4677421]

>>4671914
8/9

>>4676345
5/5

[Anonymous No.4677487]

>>4677314
The fact you're correlating a game being 2D with being bad is enough to tell me that you are functionally retarded and not worth arguing with. It's time to leave now.

[Anonymous No.4677602]

>>4675758
>>4675740
>>4677314
This HAS to be bait.

I am a big Zelda fan and Majoras Mask is my favorite game. I am playing through Oasis right now, and I can tell you without a doubt it holds up far better. No one can disagree that OoT is adored, a classic, a popular childhood favorite, but you need to take a step back and look objectively. It is a VERY unanimous opinion that the 5th gens early 3D games did not age well at all. Are there some good looking games? Yes, but most 3D games of the time were very blocky and not too detailed. To compare it to a 32-bit 2D video game is no contest. Even 2D 16-bit games hold up better than 64-bit 3D games without a doubt. Pixel art is detailed, colorful, sprites are big, and they are easy to pick up and play without figuring controls out.

At the end of the day, Oasis plays more like ALttP than Ocarina does. Is it a 10/10 game like it? I don't think I would say so, but it is definitely a great game worth playing if you enjoy overhead Zeldas. This dude is either stupid or baiting, no sane person in 2018 would use logic literally 20 years old. Pic related, incredible sprite art with levels of detail you just won't find in Ocarina.

[Anonymous No.4677609]

>>4677602
>age
Anyway, it's silly to make aribtrary statements like "all 16 bit games are inherently better than any 3D game". I often prefer 2D, but it's not a golden rule.
Also, why the fuck are you still going on about this nonsense OOT vs Oasis argument?

[Anonymous No.4677703]

>>4677602
I wasn't saying that being 3d is the sole reason OoT is so much superior, but it's a good example of why Oasis really wasn't neat when it came out. By 1996, there were more than a dozen zelda clones. By 1998, when oasis came out, I remember thinking "wow another one." Yes, it's nice looking. But is ANOTHER fucking 2d, top down zelda clone, and it's from 1998. That's pretty late to be making 2d zelda clones. It's an ok one.
It's not quite in the same category as something which commonly gets ranked #1 best video game ever made. Or, the entire world is wrong and a few contrarians on 4chan are right and Oasis is beautiful and not just a 6/10 forgettable zelda clone on a shitty console, willfully ignored by the rest of the world.

[Anonymous No.4677892]

>Nintenshit ruins a good thread

[Anonymous No.4677901]

>>4677703
>I wasn't saying that being 3d is the sole reason OoT is so much superior, but it's a good example of why Oasis really wasn't neat when it came out.
Dipshit, you're completely missing the point. It doesn't matter if it was neat when it came out, it's not 1998 anymore, it's 2018 and nobody gives a fuck about what happened 20 years ago. If it's fun to play today, then what the fuck is your problem? You just felt the compulsive need to come into the thread and start shit for no reason, all because somebody was enjoying a game that wasn't Ocarina of Time. I happen to love OoT, but this retarded mindset that you can't like two entirely different games purely because one might have seemed more impressive 20 years ago is severe autism on your part. Nobody is going to tell you it was more unique or revolutionary than OoT, it's just a fun game and it has its own merits. Stop being an insufferable faggot and get over the fact that people might actually enjoy playing a game that isn't widely considered to be the best by popular consensus.

This will be my last response to you, and I suggest everyone else ignores this clown shoe and his inevitable reply so that we can actually get back to good discussions instead of dealing with a mentally disturbed troglodyte.

[Anonymous No.4677937]

>>4660895
>vsrecommendedgames
Into the trash

[Anonymous No.4677950]

>>4677937
>Into the trash
Along with your opinions. Safe travels.

[Anonymous No.4677984]

>>4677901
It's just not that cool of a game, considering it was 1998 by the time it came out. If asterods came out today no one would care, you can make 3d FPSs in Unity very quickly. That's an extreme example, but by 1998 no one cared about 2d zelda clones. In 2018 you should care even less. Oasis will always be a forgotten game, just like the dozens of 7/10 zelda clones that would follow it.

[Anonymous No.4677993]

>>4677984
People cared about Geometry Wars even though it was little more than a Robotron clone.

[Anonymous No.4678014]

>>4677993
Once in a while older-styled games improve on the gameplay so incredibly that they get massive attention.
Stardew Valley was another example.
Unfortunately Oasis didn't innovate very much, it was decent quality but overall disappointing considering the number of extremely similar games. If Oasis had offered something more to the Zelda formula perhaps it would have been a success or fan favorite, but instead it's pretty forgettable.

[Anonymous No.4678062]

Whatever happened to the development of a flash cart that used the Video-CD expansion port? I haven't followed the scene in some time.

[Anonymous No.4678073]

Im posting a picture of Virtua Cop 2 now. It was a good saturn game. Talk about more good saturn games.

Man I actually need to get a new light gun. I tried importing one of the black japanese ones and never saw it.

[Anonymous No.4678180]

>>4678073
I just ordered a copy of this yesterday. I'm super excited. I've been meaning to play it for years now but just never got around to it for some reason. It's one of those games where I'm 99% sure I'm going to love without even knowing about it, just from what little I've seen.

[Anonymous No.4678229]

>>4678014
ugh how do you manage to be pretentious AND autistic? Jesus fucking christ you're going out of your way to insult a game that no one remembers. OoT was a piece of art but it looks old as shit now, it hasn't held up well, at least Oasis doesn't look blocky.

[Anonymous No.4678301]

>>4677892
An unexpected change of pace at least, usually it's sony cockroaches who ruin Saturn threads.

[Anonymous No.4678983]

>>4678062
Last publicly announced update to it was mid-March, so it's still going. In theory units will be rolled out to Patreon backers sometime this year, but who knows considering how long development has dragged on.

[Anonymous No.4679025]

>>4678229
Oasis wasn't blocky, but it wasn't impressive at the time either. Rather forgettable I'm afraid, a bland clone game.

[Anonymous No.4679253]

>>4662217
I'm considering buying a Saturn Gamer's Cartridge, anyone have experience with it? I mainly want it to be able to play my english translations of Shining Force III Trilogy on the original hardware, and this seems like the most effective and easiest way to do so.

Is it purchased through here?:
http://ppcenter.webou.net/satcart/#gamers

Also, any other translation patch/hack Saturn games I should check out!?

[Anonymous No.4679820]

>go to check my memory because I want to play an RPG and want to make sure I have space
>HDD is nearly full.
>VF2 took up like 200 blocks

WHY!?

[Anonymous No.4679824]

>>4679820
>Saturn
>HDD

[Anonymous No.4679826]

>>4679820
VF2 has a complex AI learning system based on player gameplay that takes up a lot of space.

[Anonymous No.4679928]

>>4662217
https://github.com/hitomi2500/wasca

[Anonymous No.4680224]

Stop using memecarts and just go with the modchip + AR 4in1 like we have been doing since the dawn of time

[Anonymous No.4680309]

>>4680224
Noob to modding Saturn here, what's the benefit of a modchip+AR over a memecart? I am this guy >>4679253 and thinking of getting the Player's Cartridge.

[Anonymous No.4680316]

>>4680309

It's way way cheaper and you don't loose the memory back up. Soldering seems intimidating but if you're careful it's not hard.

[Anonymous No.4680368]

>>4680316
It's certainly tempting. I've done lots of soldering to make arcade sticks etc, but I've always felt too scared to do it to a console for some reason.
Where's the best place to buy a mod chip for Saturn? Ebay?
I also understand Saturn doesn't have proprietary screws, which is a nice benefit to modding.

[Anonymous No.4680508]

>>4680368
It’s been years since I installed my modchip but it was easy ,you might be best giving it to someone with some soldering experience though.

There’s a program called Sega Saturn region patcher which is useful ,it lets you patch an iso for whatever region your system is,and since your system is still region locked it’s useful to have a action replay cart to play official imports.

[Anonymous No.4680519]

>>4660895
>https://segaretro.org/Sega_Saturn/Hardware_comparison

I'd take this comparison with a massive grain of salt. Apparently according to an actual real Saturn homebrew developer out there, this page is based on a complete misunderstanding of how VDP2 works because whoever wrote this got confused between internal cycles and pixel output as referred to in the leaked VDP2 documentation.

[Anonymous No.4681519]

>>4680508

I understand it can be real different depending on what model you have too. I got some flavor of a model 2 but it was piss easy.

[Anonymous No.4682109]

>>4680309
>Noob to modding Saturn here, what's the benefit of a modchip+AR over a memecart? I am this guy >>4679253 and thinking of getting the Player's Cartridge.
Price and not having to make it an either/or decision for RAM vs. save functionality. It comes at the cost of not being plug-and-play if you need to get another Saturn, though.

That said, considering how a SGC is $80, it would honestly be cheaper just to get a flashed AR, replace the internal battery, and periodically backup the save data to a memory card if you're paranoid about messing something up while chipping. The total cost would come out to between $20-$30 less than getting a SGC.

[Anonymous No.4682115]

>>4680224
Since I had a bad experience with an AR cart with wiped out saves, I bought an official Saturn memory cart, and just used AR for pseudo. I know modchip is better but honestly now I don't need to.

[Anonymous No.4683864]

Just received my copy of this today. Super fun. I can't believe I waited this long to give it a go. I love the funky soundtrack, multi-layered combat and all of the ways enemies and characters react to different situations. Best beat 'em up I've ever played.

Do you ever unlock more heroes, and is there any way to play as the undead knight?

[Anonymous No.4683879]

>>4660895
piece of shit. PC is better by far

[Anonymous No.4683885]

>>4683879
>piece of shit. PC is better by far
Nah, not really. PC is only good for id and Blizzard games. Outside of that, there really isn't much worth mentioning. Saturn isn't the most popular system or anything, but it has some really quality titles. Get your money up and you'll be able to enjoy both instead of being the living manifestation of fox and the grapes.

[Anonymous No.4683892]

>>4683879
pleb

[Anonymous No.4683905]

>>4683879
team peep confirmed homogay

[Anonymous No.4684074]

>>4683864
>Do you ever unlock more heroes

If you beat the game you can play as Serena later. Or use the dip switch code to unlock her right away. As for the UK? No. Not outside versus mode anyways. In that thing you can play as everyone that has a sprite. Even the mouse.

>I love the funky soundtrack

Fuck yeah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvfpwJNnHkU&t=0s&list=PLXRkwGvXTai7pro2XGElnONfF02jlpRjK&index=13

[Anonymous No.4685851]

>>4682109
Why would I need a flashed AR if I'm chipping?

And yeah I have 2 Saturn's atm, one PAL and one JAP model, so the SGC is pretty tempting as I can use across both if I wish.

[Anonymous No.4685853]

>>4683864
Really a wonderful game, one of my most played saturn games for sure.
I loved just replaying and finding different endings and bosses. I feel like there's at least four or more?

[Anonymous No.4686403]

>>4685851
He's saying if you're not chipping it's a better deal than the SGC because it's cheaper and you get the ram expansion.

[Anonymous No.4687153]

How are the cheap Saturn controllers, from alibaba, compared to the original controllers? Are they worth it?

[Anonymous No.4687158]

>>4686403
Thanks I must have misread.

I might look into chipping again. Where to buy the chip from? EBay?

Also, is there a benefit to chip either JAP or PAL model over the other?

[Anonymous No.4687498]

anyone ever get/play one of these? played it more than most of my shitty library lel

[Anonymous No.4687604]

>>4687498
I don't remember that disc in particular, but I used to get Sega Flash or something with the UK Sega Saturn Magazine. Used to love those, and bought a few games based on good demos. I miss demos so much.

[Anonymous No.4687873]

>>4687158
Back when I chipped mine you had to get a specific chip for each model, these days it seems they sell a universal one so it doesn't matter what system you use.

Sold here: https://www.r43ds.org/products/Phantom-Universal-Sega-Saturn-Modchip.html

Extremely easy, just connect a couple ribbon cables and solder one wire to the power supply. There's plenty of videos on youtube if you need reference if you just search "saturn phantom install"

[Anonymous No.4688576]

>>4687153
bump

[Anonymous No.4689186]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfFM5lTEOMs
Saw this video and am now thinking of doing these exact mods. Anyone have any experience with the combo?

[Anonymous No.4689203]

>>4689186
Is the mod chip even worth it nowadays with pseudosaturn?

[Anonymous No.4689239]

>>4689203
Yes as has been said before, it's cheaper and doesn't waste your ram expansion/memory card

[Anonymous No.4689763]

>>4687873
Thank you! I'll do some research this weekend. I might even still go with pseudo saturn, but the chip sounds like a really good option, and realistically the better option. Just depends on how lazy I am.

[Anonymous No.4692017]