/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4656050]

emulation > original hardware

[Anonymous No.4656053]

only if the original game is too hard and needs savestates

[Anonymous No.4656058]

>>4656053
Or if the hardware itself simply doesn't work. Like the Atari Jaguar CD.

[Anonymous No.4656070]

Emulation is certainly superior on some respects, such as convenience.

[Anonymous No.4656072]

>>4656058
Or if the game is exceedingly rare and emulation is the only way you'll ever get to play it.

[Anonymous No.4656074]

>>4656050
In some cases, yes.

[Anonymous No.4656078]

>>4656050
I don't care how you play, as long as you enjoy good games.

or if you enjoy playing bad games just to see why it's trash, whatever

[Anonymous No.4656083]

>>4656072
Or has some kind of licensing issue that means it'll literally never be ported or re released. Or was never released in the first place. Or has unused content buried in the code that you want to access.

[Anonymous No.4656091]

fast forward is a godsend for an old fart like me.

[Anonymous No.4656120]

>>4656050

[Anonymous No.4656318]

>>4656050
I disagree however I still like emulate consoles I never plan on owning.

[Anonymous No.4656331]

>>4656050
I dunno man, c64 just isn't the same without the insane load times.

[Anonymous No.4656336]

>>4656331
I never use VICE without true drive emulation enabled--you don't get the authentic C64 experience without waiting 25 seconds to load an 8k file.

[Anonymous No.4656408]

Yes pretty much, original hardware usually has less input lag but that's about the only benefit unless you're a fag who cares about "muh developer intent".

[Anonymous No.4656420]

>>4656408
What about le developer intent or writing sprites and backgrounds to be drawn on crt tvs? That's a plus. As well as using original controllers.

[Anonymous No.4656449]

>>4656336
Sometimes i fall asleep playing old c64 text adventures, its nice. Been playing alien.

[Anonymous No.4656493]

>>4656420
The author also intended for it to be bought at retail and not used. You can't get the saem experience buying it used as knowing you paid for corporate lawyers beforehand since it's one of the greatest parts of the gaeming experience.

[Anonymous No.4656541]

[Anonymous No.4656554]

i wonder how many people here listen to analog only recordings on vinyl thru tube amps or if they listen to an mp3 thru their phone or computer instead and for just a split second consider that maybe there are concessions to be made for the sake of convenience, space and practicality in general. enjoy your hobby but stop being a faggot about it. not accusing anyone in this thread about it but lord whys everyone so dogmatic.

[Anonymous No.4656560]

>>4656420
You can plug those into your computer. You don't know developer intent, you can only guess it. Even if you did know it, why let developers dictate what's the best for you?

[Anonymous No.4656565]

>>4656554
where do you think we are?

nerds spend all their time bundled up in their rooms to themselves, it's really no surprise that they become manifestations of their consumption and interests. as a result they become fickle and over self-righteous about superficial things. put a nerd next to a normal socially active person and the nerd will actively find ways to ostracize himself. only a small amount of us are self-aware.

in tandem, i am completely in tune of how much of a failure i am, other people should own up to it as well.

[Anonymous No.4656590]

>>4656565
I love you for this. I'm going through this process of discovering what a piece of shit I truly am and this really helped. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4656610]

>>4656554
Yeah but this is about video games not music. Real hardware or bust kiddo, I only use an emulator to test out discs I've dumped.

[Anonymous No.4656613]

>>4656541
Yet you replied anyway. I think you're just butthurt.

[Anonymous No.4656620]

emulation will always have more input lag than hardware

[Anonymous No.4656621]

>>4656620
Not when that hardware breaks down.

[Anonymous No.4656626]

>>4656621
straw man if I ever heard one

[Anonymous No.4656627]

>>4656626
You have no idea what that word means.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41rivol-cxQ

[Anonymous No.4656629]

>>4656620
Dolphin

[Anonymous No.4656630]

I used to be into emulators and I still think theyre pretty cool. I have noticed though that my snes muscle memory does not really translate over to emus. Has anyone else experienced this? For example, i have a much tougher time cape bouncing in smw im emus for some reason.

[Anonymous No.4656635]

>>4656560
and on that not if you've rly only got a flatscreens lcd but you wanna play a game with dithered fog should you just fuck off? That mentality is beyond tye pale to me.

[Anonymous No.4656653]

>>4656091
This is a godsend for turn-based jrpgs.

[Anonymous No.4656659]

>>4656050
Sneed

[Anonymous No.4656661]

>>4656590
haha, i was being cheeky for the most part but yeah we get too way too heated about video games and how we enjoy them

seriously, we sit down in a spot for intervals that can range from 15 minutes, several hours, 3 days, or wait for it SEVERAL YEARS hitting random buttons and we don't even make money from it. this is coming from somebody who likes PSO

[Anonymous No.4656732]

emulation is better but not without a crt and usually a correct controller

[Anonymous No.4656736]

>>4656449
Your picture is silly. You're silly.

[Anonymous No.4656740]

CPU Overclocking blows original hardware out of the water. There's no reason to tolerate slowdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJzK9nq3O34

[Anonymous No.4656757]

>>4656620
The only arguments from a collector fag

[Anonymous No.4656760]

>>4656740
why not play the arcade if you truly wanted a challenge

[Anonymous No.4656794]

If it weren't for the original hardware, console games wouldn't have even existed in the first place.
If it weren't for emulation, it wouldn't have made games more widespread to people nowadays and stuff like TAS videos wouldn't have been possible.

Why pick any side if you can acknowledge both for what they are and simply choose what's more comfortable to use at the moment? Oh wait, I forgot this is one of those bait threads where people keep false-flagging trolling just because they're bored. Oh well, whatever makes you feel happy ...

[Anonymous No.4656807]

>>4656053
You can save state on most original hardware with flash carts.

[Anonymous No.4656915]

>>4656740
>There's no reason to tolerate slowdown
That's actually part of the challenge
>>4656794
>and stuff like TAS videos wouldn't have been possible
And that's good?

[Anonymous No.4656918]

>>4656050

[Anonymous No.4656945]

>>4656915
>part of the challenge
Nintendo wins again, baby!

[Anonymous No.4657046]

>>4656449
I've played Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on real hardware--don't do this without a fastloader cartridge, it's not nice.

[Anonymous No.4657180]

>>4656053

[Anonymous No.4657406]

Original hardware and/or flashcart for official games
Emulation for romhacks

[Anonymous No.4657414]

>>4656629
Dolphin has several frames of input lag. Emulation is never going to be good for competitive, and in some cases, even casual play.

[Anonymous No.4657426]

>>4656760
I will never understand why anyone would emulate a snes port like turtles in time or mk2 when they could emulate the vastly superior arcade versions

[Anonymous No.4657428]

>>4657414
Make an issue report. I'm sure they can fix it.

[Anonymous No.4657431]

>>4656620
That makes it more challenging you noob.

[Anonymous No.4657434]

>>4657426
because the snes port of turtles in time makes changes that benefit the game, for instance the bosses are better and the enemies have actual hitstun instead of you just smacking into them

[Anonymous No.4657519]

Emulation for 1995+ consoles.

Original hardware for older console nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.4657747]

>>4657414
I'm not so sure that's still the case, this is as of a november blog post. Looks like your monitor's response time is a bigger factor now.

[Anonymous No.4659059]

>>4656050
Thank fucking god there are still people like you with common sense.

Having SOFTWARE that you can easily modify and download anytime you want is seriously the smart way to go.

Enjoy your easy to lose/steal/break hardware, faggots.

[Anonymous No.4659101]

Emulation for anything less than 32-bits.

Modchip and CD-Rs for CD-based systems.

Flash cart for N64.

[Anonymous No.4659104]

>>4659059
but muh electrons

[Anonymous No.4659125]

>>4659104
but muh vidya game 'experience'

And you wonder why you can't afford to please the people you love, while you're buying thousands of unnecessary bullshit you could easily emulate and even download hacks for. Fucking eh, man, I'm doing you a solid favor by telling you that you can actually do this. But no, you're still going to stay on your high horse and claim that only true gamers actually buy the games they love.
A fucking easily see-through illusion that people still fall for to this day. Especially when the brands have ripped you off multiple times, promising games, gameplay, and features they announce... only to further slamdunk their useless hardware down your throat until you gracefully shit out all the hard earned money you've made.

[Anonymous No.4659129]

>>4659125
there's thousands of games that you can't emulate accurately,and pc mustard jews still get suckered in to spending thousands on steam games and microtransactions and lightup keyboards and all kinds of shit. please stop the false notion that gaming platform preference denotes actual income or wealth.the fact that you're worried about penny penching over electronics shows that you're the poor one.

[Anonymous No.4659335]

>>4659129
You sound furious.

[Anonymous No.4659485]

>>4656050
I own a lot of original hardware and I do agree with this most of the time.
Emulating (for most systems) is just so fucking convenient that it outweighs any drawbacks.
But I take the attitude of "why not both?"

[Anonymous No.4659538]

>>4659129
>What do you mean, you don't spend all of your money on old hardware? W-w-what are you, poor????

Sure, anti-social. Keep telling yourself that.

[Anonymous No.4659557]

>>4659538
I will always be amazed that despite 50% of America being poor or low income, and 63% of Americans can't afford a $1,000 emergency, somehow 99% of 4chan is wealthy

[Anonymous No.4660338]

>>4659129
>Thousands of games you can't emulate accurately
I have several emulators and this isn't really true. I've only ran into problems with two games(DmC 1 and F-Zero GX)

[Anonymous No.4660602]

>>4659129
>>4659125
I want both of you to know that i do both of the things you are describing. I own physical games and play emulated ones. Wtf does it matter?

[Anonymous No.4660605]

>>4660338
Is it the sand level in f-zero? I can never get that one to run right.

[Anonymous No.4660660]

>>4656050
You can only say that when the N64 doesn't have dogshit emulation.

[Anonymous No.4660686]

If an emulator stops working, all you'll need to do is uninstall it and redownload the files. It will cost you an hour and some groans.

If your vintage system breaks down, you will either have to get it repaired or replaced entirely, which can take days or even weeks and cost prices as high as $100 or even more.

[Anonymous No.4660704]

>>4660686
An emulator won't explode because of a shitty Chinese capacitor either.

[Anonymous No.4661057]

>>4656083
that's true, although we were lucky sometimes

[Anonymous No.4662056]

>>4656083
Or it features graphical details that can't be seen at all on its original platform (granted this applies less to retro and more to/v/ for now).

[Anonymous No.4662118]

>>4660686
>If an emulator stops working, all you'll need to do is uninstall it
>emulators that aren't standalone executables
MOOOOOOOOOOODS

[Anonymous No.4662186]

>>4660686
Or you could fix it yourself.

[Anonymous No.4662325]

>>4657406
But you can play romhacks on original hardware with flashcarts.

[Anonymous No.4662338]

>>4657426
The snes version of tmnt has so much differences from the arcade version that you could consider it a remake not a port. I like the snes version better, the enemies hitscan feels so weird on the arcade version.

[Anonymous No.4662536]

>>4662118
Deleting a standalone executable is uninstalling it. It's just a simpler/cleaner procedure.