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4653557 No.4653557 [Reply] [Original]

Any gushing/recommendations for retro rail shooters/3D Shmups/whatever you want to call them? I'm a big fan of this genre, and already like stuff like Space Harrier, Panzer Dragoon, StarFox, etc, so personally I would prefer to know more about some lesser-known titles in this genre, especially ones for the PS1. Also, of course, discuss and argue about your favorites.

>> No.4653567
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4653567

Sin and Punishment for sure.
It's my favorite along with Zwei and SF64. It doesn't have alternate paths like these two, but it's twice as crazy.

>> No.4653586

>>4653567
I never expected such a game to be found on the 64. S&P is definitely my favorite game on the system.

Rez is my second favorite in this genre

>> No.4653630

Panzer Dragoon series is the only good one desu. Space Harrier is also fun, but a bit dated.

>>4653567
That's a Cabal-like, not a rail shooter.

>> No.4653635

>>4653630
>SF64 not being good
Get a load of this faggot. Not enough cringe anime characters for you or what?

>> No.4653719

>>4653630
>That's a Cabal-like, not a rail shooter.
Same as the on-foot missions on PDII. OP's screen is basically cabal.

>> No.4653832

wait if the games where you move your ship are rail shooters, what are we calling these games where your ship stays on a rail and you only control the gun sight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ye--r3_MYk

>> No.4653837

>>4653832
Light gun on-rail shooters.

>> No.4653854

>>4653837
It doesn't use a light-gun. Are you still going to call it a light gun on-rail shooter?

>> No.4653857

>>4653837
It's a positional, fixed, analog controller mounted that moves the crosshair

>> No.4653863

>>4653837
light gun (uses a light to aim): https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ca/63/1e/ca631ecb8eeccbac70afa6bcbdeb50c9--area--atari.jpg
not a light gun (doesn't use a light to aim):
https://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/1181242121268.jpg

>> No.4653870

>>4653854
>>4653857
>>4653863
Fixed gun rail-shooter then.

>> No.4653876

>>4653870
Ok, what do you call shooters where you don't stay on a rail like star fox?

>> No.4653893

>>4653876
Space-cabal-on-rail shooters

>> No.4653932

>>4653893
In Star Fox you can move up and down, how is that Cabal? In the Cabal genre you can only move left and right
"A main character is viewable in 3rd Person, capable of only left and right directional movement;
Additional maneuvers such as jumping or ducking are acceptable, moving forward or backward is not;"
sources:
https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/cabal-variants
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/games/cabal/248774/cabal-the-80s-game-that-inspired-modern-third-person-shooters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cabal_shooters , etc.

>> No.4653953

>>4653932
Space-cabal implies that you can move on the Y axis.

>> No.4654003

I love Gamera 2000, for Gamera and the music.

>> No.4654012

>>4653953
90% of Star Fox happens on planets, not in space. How is that a space game?

>> No.4654015

>>4654012
Space as in you have space to move around, not outer space.

>> No.4654019

>>4654012
in addition, panzer dragoon.
>>4653953
is it a "space" cabal?

>> No.4654023

>>4654015
Do you have any actual references or sources to this "space cabal" genre or are you just making shit up out of your ass? Seems

>> No.4654026

>>4654023
I'm making shit up dude, I thought it was obvious.

>> No.4654027

>>4654026
that's what I thought, it seems like you're trying to reference Corridor Shooters

>> No.4654037

Pokemon Snap.

>> No.4654068

>>4653719
>Same as the on-foot missions on PDII.
Not quite. The unevolved dragon stages in PD Zwei still have you moving forward constantly. In S&P you make constant pauses to fight waves of enemies, which is how it works in Cabal-like shooters- you spend more time standing still (or rolling/strafing to the side) than you do moving forward.

>> No.4654070

>>4654068
In OP's pic you stand there until you take out the fortress.

>> No.4654097

>>4654070
You sure? I don't remember having to stand in the same position for a very long time when I 1cc'd PDII. Can you post a webm?

>> No.4655348

panorama cotton, you fucking casuals

>> No.4655357

>>4654097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqmEjG5u1lU
at around 12:50

>> No.4655360

Gamera 2000 was already mentioned, I really liked it and I have also enjoyed Vanark.

Both of them are quite short and easy though.

>> No.4655402

>>4655357
Interesting. I never actually went that route (and looking it up, you get rewarded less points for going that path). Still, that's the only time it plays like a Cabal-style shooter, so I would still classify it as a 3D shmup/rail shooter, unlike S&P.

>> No.4655413

>>4655402
s&p still has a lot of on-rail parts.
These games all have their own unique quirks (Pd lets you rotate in 360, S&P gets crazy and the last level has a side-scrolling section too).
It's hard to classify these games, they are "3D shooting" games according to the japanese game boxes

>> No.4655454

I've always preferred the term "chase view shooter".