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>Animality

Was this the beginning of the end of MK quality?

>> No.4632202

>>4632197
Dinosaurs aren't even animals, they're vertebrae

>> No.4632204
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4632204

you act like mk wasnt bootleg bullshit from the start

>> No.4632207

>>4632197
MK9 for PS3/360 is literally the only good game in the series.

>> No.4632214

>>4632197
Well all of MK3 was. Series peaked with 2. Animalities were lame but no lamer than the rest of the game.

>> No.4632220
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4632220

>>4632202
>Dinosaurs aren't even animals, they're vertebrae

>> No.4632223

>>4632207
MK2 was the high point IMO.

>> No.4632228

>Scorpion's Animality
>becomes a penguin

>> No.4632246

>>4632214
This. MK2 took the violence of one and added some goofy fun to the mix. MK3 decided to go full retard on the goof.

>> No.4632258

MK3 was really dumb. The only good thing about it was the sick cover art of the Playstation version.

The series didn't get back in form until V.

>> No.4632262
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>>4632197

>> No.4632278

>>4632262
Wrong thread lol

>> No.4632285

>>4632228
UMK was a mistake.

>> No.4632291

>>4632258
Try harder

>> No.4632298

>>4632285
that would be too obvious

>> No.4632317

MK was never good.

>> No.4632327

>>4632207
Why?
Not arguing, I genuinely want to know compared to X and 2.

>> No.4632328

>>4632258
Yeah because eating KanO's was super serious.

>> No.4632330

>>4632262
I hate having to pause/play a webm to properly comprehend strats. You got a flowchart?

>> No.4632331

>>4632330
10/10

>> No.4632335

>>4632262
does this work on every enemy AI? it would be hilarious to see a juxtaposition of the whole tournament played like this

>> No.4632339

>>4632317
This. It was always a meme game that had awful sluggish controls compared to its direct competition in the arcades and only gained popularity due to
>muh fatalities
>muh get over here

>> No.4632342

>>4632197
Mortal Kombat never took itself seriously, but the general shift in tone to outright silliness beginning with 3 was what killed it. Before that it was always "Bloodsport with supernatural themes". Violent tongue-in-cheek martial arts action with humor, but never outright absurd like 3 was.

>> No.4632356

umk3 is the best one gameplay wise, 2 is too sluggish.
9 and XL are good too

>> No.4632357

>>4632228
>>4632285
>>4632298
Sheeva's animality was a scorpion.

>> No.4632360

I can't believe how many underage shitheads on this board talk smack on mk. Just because your big brother kicked your ass at it doesn't mean it isn't one of the top fighters of all time.

>> No.4632368

>>4632360
It falls apart at a high level of competition. MK X seems pretty tournament worthy. The 2D ones are all garbage at anything more than a casual level, though.

>> No.4632398

>>4632360
I’m 35 and am telling you that mk 1, 2 and 3 are unequivocally trash, all style no substance

>> No.4632407

>>4632202
please just shut the fuck up

>>4632327
MK9 is way better than X because it doesn't have those shitty background interaction elements and feels like clunky, there's a lot more colour to it too instead of all shitty dark browns. The story mode is actually really fun and well-written until it shits the bed in the last chapter as opposed to MKXL which is up there with MVCI as the worst story mode in a fighting game. It also has a far more complete and bigger roster whereas MKXL just crams in horror movie icons.

I think MK9 also had a lot more secrets, especially in dat krypt. Even the challenge tower was fun!

>> No.4632409

>>4632407
Oh and also, MK9 doesn't split each character's moves into 3 different styles so that's also a plus. No microtranscation dogshit with easy mode koins either

>>4632328
Are you really using Krypt secret gags in MKDA? lol

>> No.4632471

>>4632335
That was the only way I could ever beat Goro in MK1.

>> No.4632479

While all the animal looked bad in MK3 the “new characters” in Trilogy animals were the worst, just the fucking worst and the animations were child like color crayon.

Scorpion was a penguin and Cage was a Kangaroo. If you get a chance look them up, the animation was sooooooooooo it if place it was done in under 3 seconds.

>> No.4632486
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>>4632479

>> No.4632495

>>4632207
UMK3, MK2, MK9. All others are not very good. Kinda funny how good MK9 turned out to be now that I think about it.

>> No.4632501

Ultimate Mk3 in the arcade wa the high point of graphics and sound. MK trilogy for the N64 was the high point for gameplay.

MK2 was great when it came out but MK3 was better simply because of the run mechanic and combos. MK2 is horribly slow. Compare it to trilogy on N64 and it’s no contest as to which one is he most playable.

>> No.4632505

>Liu Kang's animality
>it's just his fatality from MK2 but the dragon looks shittier
Seriously why did they have that bad coloring and thick tracing line? The dragon on MK2 looked great.

>> No.4632508

>>4632505
Because it looks cool.

>> No.4632510

>>4632505
You must have forgotten the mod 90s. Neon colors were all the rage back then. Fucking millenials...

>> No.4632513

>>4632508
So looking like shit is the new cool?

>> No.4632516

>>4632510
What the fuck are you talking about? It looks like shit, not neon.
And yeah, I'm a millennial/gen Y, I'm from 1985.

>> No.4632521

>>4632510
nude patch for sheeva when?

>> No.4632526

>>4632207
This, I hadn’t played an MK game since Ultimate 3 when MK(9) came out in 2011, and it was a legitimately great fighting game. So great I thought “maybe I really was missing out all these years”, so I went and played 4, Shaolin Monks and Armageddon. And they were all awful.
X was okay but 9 is still he standard bearer for the series imo

>> No.4633454
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4633454

>>4632197
Mortal Kombat 3 definitely took the series in a bad direction. They should have rehashed the atmosphere from Mortal Kombat 2 with new characters, backgrounds, music, etc. and added those MK3 combos too.

>> No.4633459

>>4632197
Nah
It's just an extension of the cartoon ridiculousness. The series did go to shit after that, though. Although I played one of the non-/vr/ games (DA?) and it was okay.

>> No.4633654

>>4632202
I know you're trying to be funny, but shut the hell up

>> No.4633661

>>4633454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK0UOZWUeGw
warning: may contain memes

>> No.4633669

>>4632197
MK3 was pretty much the end of MK quality itself.
>Poor attempt at cyberpunk
>No misteryous fantasy asian setting
>No Ninjas
>No Cage
>White washed Sub-Zero
>White washed Shang Tsung
>Striker
>all fatalities look the same
>Same boss the last game had
>UMK3 is pretty much a DLC
>MKT is more of the same plus a mess of recicled/mismatching assets

>> No.4633672

>>4632360
27 here, mk was never good. I liked it as a kid for the violence, but even back then we would always go back to SF.

>> No.4633749

>>4633672
Delet this

>> No.4633776

>>4632204
fuck you original mk was GOAT

>> No.4633789

>>4633749
well he isn't wrong. mk is truly a wonky game. It reminds me of streetfighter1

>> No.4633796

>>4632197
kek
being on the receiving end never felt good since to pull it off you need to win the 3rd round, mercy, kill again
higher humiliation than flawless victory

>> No.4633808

>>4632197
>midway
>quality
Mortal Kombat is barely any better than Pit Fighter. All midway games are horrible, with those awful digitised sprites, unresponsive controls, and terrible cheating AI. Only good thing they did was their arcade cabinets had fantastic audio quality.

>> No.4634094

>>4632202
"No".

>> No.4634186

>>4632197
Mortal Kombat has always had its goofs, MK3's animalities were a magnificent touch. You all complain about Scorpion not becoming a Scorpion but forget Liu Kang has an awesome dragon animality which is a reference to his MK2 fatality. Stay mad.

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>>4632360
What the fuck did you hope to accomplish with this post, anon?

>> No.4634762

>>4634186
>Liu Kang has an awesome dragon animality which is a reference to his MK2 fatality.
>reference
It's a rehash, and it looks shittier, too.

>> No.4634802

>>4633808
sadly pretty much this.

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>>4632360
Don't listen to them. Just neckbeards that won't hear how any game outside their weeaboo garbage could be good.

>> No.4634829

>>4634762
>Rehash
>Thinks it looks shittier thus admitting it's not a rehash since that would mean the graphics are different
Also the animalities look fine so what are you smoking?
>>4634824
Truth.

>> No.4634835
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4634835

>Animalities look just fine!

>> No.4634836

>>4634835
What the fuck.
It's literally the same sprite but with less colors and a weird outline that makes it look like it was copypasted into the scene.
Why did they do it like that? memory saving? I get the use of less colors to save memory, but why the fuck is that outline there?

>> No.4634843

>>4634835
/thread.
It was fun while it lasted.

>> No.4634846

>>4634836
>Why did they do it like that?
Laziness pretty much. A lot of MK3 was ambitious but ended up dropping the ball. Animalities were a neat idea as another kind of finisher, but like so much else they really half-assed them.

>> No.4634853

>>4634836
It's supposed to look like it's glowing. Not a real animal, but like a ghostly spirit animal. It just looks like shit.

>> No.4634861

>>4634835
You can perfectly make out the shape of the animals, stop being an idiot. Also the animality is recolored and given a badass outline, it's not the same.

>> No.4634863

>>4634861
Yeah, I'm glad they added that outline, I couldn't tell the one on MKII was a dragon if my life depended on it.
And yeah the lack of colors is just fine, who needs all these shading details and such? Minimalist coloring is best!

>> No.4634867

Why was Reptile's animality a monkey? He's a reptile...

>> No.4634872

>>4634867
Because they don't make any real sense, it's just random animals.

>> No.4634876

>>4634863
It's not about determining the shape, it's the badass glow that matters. The minimalism gives it a good consistent style.

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4634883

>>4634876
>You can perfectly make out the shape of the animals
>It's not about determining the shape

>> No.4634889

>>4634883
Reread my post faggot. The part about determining the shape was in regards to you criticizing the outline.

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>>4634889

>> No.4634964

>>4632197
>Was this the beginning of the end of MK quality?
No, because regardless of how silly you think those animality finishers are, MK3 is still massively superior to MK2.

>> No.4634981

>block button instead of holding back directional
>run button instead of double tap

Mortal Kombat... was a mistake.

>> No.4634992

>>4634981
>this game is bad because it doesn't follow a pre-determined mold

>> No.4634994

>>4634981
Holding back to block results in crossups, MK fixes this issue.
Why the fuck would they use double tapping to block when there are so many special moves and finishers in MK that use those commands? The run button is more intuitive.

>> No.4635009

>>4634981
> be you
> never played mortal kombat
> only seen fat neckbearded streamers fail at it
> game must be bad
get out.

>> No.4635012

>>4632486
> green blood
yea no real mortal kombat fan plays with green blood enabled.

>> No.4635117

>>4634994
>crossups are bad
lol

>> No.4635147

>>4633669
>>White washed Sub-Zero
>>White washed Shang Tsung

They were white washed from the start, tumblr.

>> No.4635160

>>4634992
Yeah, except it copies the basic SFII fundamentals of 2D fighting games. Except it really clunky ways. Commands don't work in a fluid manner. To perform a basic projectile with you kang you don't do a qcf in a swift movement, you have to input each directional, and diagonals don't matter.
It's a charming franchise because of the characters, lore and most of all the violence and the digitalized photorealistic graphics that made MK stand out.
It's not original enough to not be included under the SFII school, but it didn't improve on it and in fact made controls worse. It's still not a bad game, a bad game is I would say rise of the robots. MK games are fine, definitely playable, but I don't see how anyone would prefer this to any capcom or snk game. Or eveb other lesser known fighters like yu yu hakusho or gundam endless duel play a lot better than MK

>> No.4635167

>>4635160
>Yeah, except it copies the basic SFII fundamentals of 2D fighting games.
Not really. Each character has the same hitboxes, trades don't exist, way more characters have projectiles.

MK was an answer to SF2, yes, but it became its own beast due to a lot of the design choices. Fatal Fury has more in common with SF2.

>> No.4635195

>>4635167
Fatal Fury actually went further and implemented the plane-switching mechanic, as well as desperation attacks (a much better and gameplay-focused element than fatalities). FF also went further with grab mechanics and commands, while swift like in SF, are still different enough to make FF and KoF games have their own distinct commands.
MK didn't add any substantial element to the genre.

>> No.4635208

>>4634994
You hate crossups because you suck at preventing them?

>> No.4635258

>>4634964
>MK3 is still massively superior to MK2.
Wrong nigger

>> No.4635284

>>4635208
That's Mortal Kombat fans for ya

>> No.4635357

>>4635258
Faster, more advanced gameplay with extremely practical combos put MK3 way above

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4635449

>>4635147
>Sub-Zero and Shang Tsung don't look asian at all in MK2

>> No.4635467

>>4632505
I'll bite.

Considering the limited palette of MK3 characters and/or the really small animals from the UMK3 ninjas, maybe it was to save some space (or like Ed Boon usually says, "to save memory")?

>> No.4635787

>>4635467
To be fair, when it's a ROM chip, it is essentially memory.

>> No.4635818

>>4635787
>>4635467
Yeah. Animalities were literally a last minute addition born from a joke, there wasn't much space left so that's why they look like that.

>> No.4635827

>>4635357
Weak bait

>> No.4635828

Mortal Kombat was never good to begin with. Neither were Killer Instinct or Primal Rage.

>> No.4635831

>>4635828
Sounds like someone got shit on lmao animalities were dope, always got good laughs out of it when you could land one

>> No.4635917

>>4635828
KI is good. The best of the western fighting games.
I'm still sad Primal Rage wasn't good. The idea and graphics appeal to me a lot, but yeah, not good.

>> No.4636005

>>4632197
3 was garbage

1 and 2 will always be all-time classics, regardless of what the hipster wannabes say

>> No.4636013

>>4633454
1 had the best atmosphere/music

>> No.4636014

>>4636005
Nobody is denying their classic status. They're clunky, mediocre fighting games, but their lore has charm, and nobody can deny the cultural impact they had in the west in the 90s.

>> No.4636015 [DELETED] 

>>4635117
Why do you like shitty hitboxes?

>> No.4636018 [DELETED] 

>>4635208
Why the fuck should you be penalized for defending because some moves have bullshit hitboxes?

>> No.4636020

>>4633808
>>4634802
>samefag trolling this hard

>> No.4636025

>>4636005
>Calls people hipsters for not liking 1 or 2
>Calls 3 garbage
I hope you just mean 3 and not Ultimate 3.

>> No.4636032

>>4636014
MK2 has as good human vs human game play as any other 2D fighter

Just because it's not your taste doesn't make it untrue

>> No.4636347

>>4632197
>MK quality

haha