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Why is this game so incredibly stressful? Every time I play I feel like I'm close to having a stroke, especially during the tough platforming sections like the start of 4-2 and the end of 8-1. Beat it once in my entire life.

>> No.4613929

I used to think that the whole SMB1 is hard thing was a meme, but now I'm not sure anymore.

>> No.4613930

Because Mario controls like ass in it.

>> No.4613935
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Well, to answer why it may be more stressful compared to later mario games like Super Mario Bros 3 and Super Mario World, It's because of the jumping physics and the way the levels are designed. Many levels in the game are flat and there's a lot of high falls and long gaps between the base ground. Mario can't turn when in midair and the arc of his jump lifts him off the ground really fast and then he falls again like he's an anvil in a looney toons cartoon. I still have a great time playing it but it's very spasmodic. A lot of clones that were made soon after it came out are programmed a lot worse though, because if the screen doesn't scroll properly with the character you can't even see a death coming. In this game more than any other mario game I feel like the deaths come out of nowhere, but the control is so well programmed for a game of its time that it never felt unfair for me. I used to feel that hammer bros and bowser were impossible but the game encourages you to not overthink and just keep running a lot which saves you from most of the times you'd otherwise die.

>> No.4613969

>>4613925
try the lost levels.

>> No.4613973

>>4613969
At least it has legit continues

>> No.4613974

>>4613930
>Because Mario controls like ass in it.

this. mario is incredibly slippy and his acceleration is weird and you can't stop on a dime the way you can in SMB3 and SMW

>> No.4614045
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Remember anon, beating the game with warps, the 1-up trick, or any cheats or save states is only half the game. Once you're able to beat it all in one go without skipping levels or exploiting glitches, you'll have truly understood what Super Mario Bros. has to offer.

>> No.4614135

>>4613930
>implying it isn't the most precise 2D Mario game in the franchise
git gud

>> No.4614148

>>4614045
Going to 4-2 and then 8-1 gives you SIGNIFICANTLY less lives than going in sequentially. What you're describing is a much easier way of beating the game.

>> No.4614157

>>4613974
>you can't stop on a dime the way you can in SMB3 and SMW
This is what makes SMB1 better than those games.

>> No.4614225

I prefer the All-Star version.

>> No.4614646

>>4613925
Because it has a timer and requires skill and isn't slingshotting birds at pigs

>> No.4614653

>>4614225
>no bounce back when you hit a brick
>your upward momentum continues
This alone is enough to ruin the game for me. The physics are fucked.

>> No.4614680

Maybe you just suck.
Have you tried playing better?

>> No.4614681

>>4613925
If you run out of lives you have to start over from the beginning. I like that though, it makes both victories and defeats have more impact.

>> No.4614691

>>4614148
That's not even what he said.

>> No.4614695

>>4613925
Probably because it's connected some sort of repressed trauma that triggers some sort of nervous breakdown when you start to remember it.

>> No.4614845

>>4614681
This is a good point. Most people don't know about the continue cheatcode.

>> No.4614935

>>4614225
Does the 2-player 5-2 infinite lives glitch work in All Stars?

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>>4613925
I recently set out to beat the game, as I don't think I ever did as a kid.

It was TOUGH! Much tougher than I thought it would be, and I was doing the warp route. I think it probably took me 50 attempts.

I was either emulating or playing all stars, depending on my mood. I have a real NES now, so in going to try warpless on it, and track how many tries it takes me.

>> No.4615726

OP here, I beat it again just now. The weird thing about platforming in this game is that it often feels, as somebody here mentioned, spasmatic. The jump that doesn't pose that much of a problem at first may completely jeopardize a run another time. It rarely ever feels unfair, but there are some questionable glitches. For example in 8-2 there is this cannon that stands in the middle of a bottomless pit. One time I tried to jump at it, but when I was already airborne it shot out a bullet on which Mario accidentally stomped and bounced over the cannon and into the pit, outside of my control. That was pretty unfair.
8-4 is kinda funny. When you're small the underwater section seems like the easiest one. The Bloopers can't reach you when you're at the bottom. However when you're big or when you have a fire flower, it's really easy to get hit.
All in all, the relative difficulty and arcadeness doesn't take away from the fact that this game is still very addicting.

>> No.4616805

>>4613925
>can't git gud at this game because I'm used to DX physics
just

>> No.4617943

OP here again. Sorry to all who more or less agreed with me, I was being a massive retard and a faggot. All I had to do was to git gud. Reached 8-4 warpless today, still having some trouble with Bowser when powerless

>> No.4617956

>>4614157
yeah, I always thought laser point precision movement in platforming games was dumb. that shit is needed for run and gun games where the main thing is dodging bullets, or action platformers where enemy placement is its usually where the difficulty lies.

>> No.4617968

>>4613973
Just hold A on the title screen

>> No.4617976

>>4614653
There's a patch to fix that, look up online. Was literally one var that should have been the opposite value, funny programming goof that I'm surprised made it into the final release.

>> No.4617983

>>4616805
I'd love a rebuild of DX into SMB1, though I dunno if it would be worth doing the boo challenges that way, you could see too much.

>> No.4618004

>>4617968
It's a cheat, fuck that shit. It ain't SMB2

>> No.4618086

it's not a hard game, but whenever I play it I'm very cautious

I've played through the whole thing on one go about 4 or 5 times. It's been several years

>> No.4618210

>>4613925
NEVER BACK ALWAYS FORWARD

>> No.4618228

I hope this is a troll thread.
I'm not even sure anymore with this board.

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>>4613925
it is the only game I have beat without dying. now and then I'll turn it on just to see if I can speed run it. typically get killed at 8-2 or 8-3

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>>4617956
>we need artificial difficulty from shitty unresponsive controls

>> No.4620368

>>4614653
I always see people post this, but I've tested it and failed to replicate it. I can't see any difference.