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TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THREAD

Having problems running old games? WELL THEN GOOGLE IT, YOU ASSHOLE!

Google doesn't help? THEN ASK HERE!

I can't get digitized speech to run in Ultima Underworld 2. I can get speech running just fine in Ultima Underworld 1, but not 2 for some reason. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong?

>> No.4610123
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4610123

Also, how the fuck do I get sound to work in System Shock 1? I'm playing it in DOSBox.

>> No.4610245

>>4609854
>>4610123
I think I got both of these working, but does anyone know where I can get a download of the GOG version of System Shock 1? Not the Enhanced Edition, just the original vanilla release.

>> No.4610412

>people asking for help getting things to run under DOSBox's shitty emulation
OP, I dunno if you are using the GoG versions or not, but this might be able to help you with your sound issues:
https://www.gog.com/forum/ultima_series/how_to_get_the_most_out_of_ultima_underworld_2
>>4610123
Try this:
mpu401=none
gus=false
pcspeaker=false
Sound Blaster (220,IRQ 7,DMA 1)

Seriously though folks, DOSBox is old, hacky, and hasn't seen any official release since 2010. Daum is an improvement, but that got abandoned in 2015 as well. PCem or 86Box is where it's at.

>> No.4611591

How do you enlarge DOSBox while still keeping it in a window?

>> No.4611604

>DOSbox

Using a frontend might fix most of your configuration issues since you'll have a graphical menu for setting all your options. There are dozens of frontends out there. D-Fend Reloaded isn't a bad choice for Windows, and there's DBGL for GNU / Linux.

https://www.dosbox.com/wiki/DOSBoxFrontends

>> No.4613471

I'll look into it.

>> No.4613602 [DELETED] 

GTA IV in windows 7 help.

>> No.4615458

>>4613602
nigga wrong board

>> No.4617587

>>4609854
Anyone have a HD version of the OP pic?

>> No.4617626

>>4617587
https://bigboxcollection.com/images/2khi/UltimaUnderworld2.jpg

>> No.4619446

>>4617626
I kind of meant the textless version from the OP.

>> No.4620040

Does anyone know if it's possible to get DOSBox to display in full screen with black spaces on the sides so that it can retain the 4:3 dimensions of the original games?

>> No.4620578

How to play cd games made for windows 95 on new rigs? I constantly hear about virtual machines but am apparently too dumb to make it work. Any retard proof way?

>> No.4620593

I can't Lego Chess too work on Win 7 or Win XP, doesn't matter if I use patches or not

>> No.4620616

>>4620040
Literally the second result when I google "dosbox 4:3 fullscreen".

>>4620578
>too dumb to make it work
If you can't follow instructions from the many videos on youtube explaining how to do exactly this, how the hell do you expect us to help you? Either learn how to do simple tasks, or wait for GoG to add it to their library and buy it.

>>4620593
Make a Win95 or Win98 virtual machine and use that.

>> No.4622363

>>4620616
will look into it

>> No.4623328

Not sure if you guys can help me, but here is the situation:

I have some old SNES games that I wanted to get the saves from, to use on an SD2SNES (and I'd like to do the same for some Genesis games as well), or maybe emulators at some point.

To do this I picked up a Retron 5. I don't intend to use it for playing games, just pulling the saves off. However, the saves that I get from it are .sav, while the Everdrive and the emulators I've tried to use them with seem to require .srm files, which are apparently not the same as they do not work even when I rename the file.

Any suggestions? It seems like someone put together a converter for .srm to .sav, but not the other way.

>> No.4623393

>>4609854
>Ordered a bunch of new button contacts for a bunch of my controllers
>Half the controllers have bad screws that strip to shit if you so much as try to clean them with a dry cotton swap
What do now

>> No.4623449

>>4623328

Okay, found the fucking converter to do what I need to do. If anyone finds this in the future and wants to resolve this:

https://www.retro5.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=257

At the very least, I have it working in SNES9x. Hopefully it works on the SD2SNES as well.

>> No.4623487

Not exactly /vr/, but I did it specifically to play GB and GBC games.

I replaced the screen in my original GBA with an AGS-101 screen with the ribbon cable converter. It works fine, but it has an issue where sometimes it doesn't power on the first time I flip the power switch. I'll have to flip it a 2nd time to get it to turn on sometimes.

Any idea why that might be, and how I could fix it?

>> No.4625054

>>4610412
Nah mate this is bullshit. There are tons of variants which are still in development. If you want to use latest DosBox with proper shader support use
https://github.com/aqualung99/dosbox-0.74-ES

>>4610123
You need to manually use the setup.exe or install.exe (don't remember which it is) to setup your sound card. This step comes after you have first setup a proper config file for dosbox. You need to match the irq etc settings..

>> No.4625824

>that feel when you can't understand half of what's written in this thread

>> No.4625893

>>4623328
>>4623449
You know you could've just gotten a Super UFO instead, most people think of it as a really shitty flashcart when it's actual purpose is for save backups and real time hack/translation application kinda like what you wanted.

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I'm attempting to run an old RPGmaker game called Palette in a Windows 98 VM, because I've heard that's the only way to get the colors to work 100% properly. I managed to get everything together and the game running, but for some reason there's no sound. The VM can play sound fine, just not the game. Is there a setting I need to change or an audio driver I need to install?

>> No.4627540

>>4627337
get AND OLD MACHINE AND INSTALL WINDOWS 98 IN IT emulators are not realhardware!

>> No.4627553

>>4627540
You seem like a waste of oxygen.

>>4627337
How old are we talking? If it's asking for Win9X, I'm guessing it's from RPG Maker 95. That output audio as either .wav or .midi format. You're probably playing .wav fine, but can your VM handle .midi audio?

>> No.4628183

>>4627553
Checked earlier today.
All the sound files are in .wav format. I can open said files in the machine's media player but they don't make any sound. Looking around for a solution to that, I can only seem to find fixes for if the file doesn't open at all.

>> No.4628186

>>4627553
>>4628183
And yes, it's RPGmaker 95.

>> No.4628305

>>4628183
>I can open said files in the machine's media player but they don't make any sound.
Can you open other .wav files, or is it just the game's audio files that come out blank? Also, what are you using for your VM?

>> No.4628429

>>4628305
I had no other wav files on the machine so I just transfered one from another rpgmaker game. It played just fine.
To be doubly sure, I grabbed one of the wavs from Palette, made sure it worked on my host, and transferred it to the machine to see if it would work. It did not.

I'm using Oracle VM. I tried VMware as well but couldn't even get it to turn a machine on. Some bullshit about a connection to this or that.

>> No.4630000

>recommending that people buy hardware just so they can play a PC game

>> No.4631847

How the fuck do I get the raise/lower terrain commands to show up in SimCity 2000? Does this just not work on modern operating systems or what?

>> No.4633384

>>4631847
nevermind; figured it out

>> No.4633853

When I turn on my NES the red light keeps blinking and the game won't turn on. Is my NES broken or what?

>> No.4633882

I’ve got a Dreamcast that is refusing to read some games normally, but after sitting and applying some rubbing alcohol to the laser lens and surrounding area, it works with those games for a couple start/shutoff cycles before going back to failing to read them. Have any anons had similar issues in the past? Is this symptomatic of laser calibration issues, or is the inside of my Dreamcast just super nasty and in need of a cleaning?

>> No.4634085

>>4633853
What does it show on the screen? Make sure you describe it EXACTLY down to the color and any blinking pattern or whatever else.

>> No.4634090
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Why does System Shock 1 look like this when running at 640x400 or above on Windows 98 DOS mode?

>> No.4635239

Bump

>> No.4636608

>>4634090
did you try using compatibility mode?

>> No.4637203

>>4636608
There is no compatibility mode on Windows 98

>> No.4637212

>>4610245
https://goggames.goodolddownloads.com/game/system_shock_classic

>> No.4637513

Trying to emulate ps1 with an emu called bizhawk. Shit just boots up into the bios and doesn't load the game. help

>> No.4637519
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>>4623393
Order replacement screws and a set of these special bits for extracting stripped screws.

>> No.4637520

>>4630000
Why would you not have old PC hardware lying around? Are you under 18 or something?

>> No.4637523

>>4633853
That is like the most common problem in all of /vr/. So much so that I think this is a troll post.
But the solution is either to clean/reorient the 72pin connector (you can bend it slightly back into position so that it makes better contact with the cartridges), or to cut the relevant pin on the 10NES security lockout chip.

>> No.4637524

>>4634090
Don't use DOS mode. Boot to real DOS or use a dedicated DOS machine.

>> No.4637541

>>4637524
See, it works when I do real DOS mode, but it just crashes after a few minutes

>> No.4637545

>>4637513
BizHawk uses Mednafen for its psx emulation. Most likely cause of your problem is a bad disc image. Make sure you're loading the cue not the bin, or ccd not the img, etc.

>> No.4637560

>>4637541
I have occasionally had that problem with some games when using joysticks, but I doubt you are using a gameport device to try to play System Shock. That does kind of make me wonder whether it's a problem with your soundcard or drivers though.
For what it's worth, I can't play System Shock within Windows 98 either. The intro and menu run, but once you try to go in-game it crashes.

>> No.4637607

i was playing mother 1 using nestopia.

the rom file is "Earth Bound Zero (Neo Demiforce v1.01 Hack-2) (U).nes". i think someone on some forum said it's the definitive rom.

after about one hour of gameplay it froze during a battle with a hippie or a farmer.

what gives?

>> No.4637620

>>4637607
Sounds like they didn't get around the anti-piracy shit in the ROM properly. Some of this stuff won't trigger until late in the game. I recommend just getting Mother1+Mother2 GBA rom, patching it with http://mother12.earthboundcentral.com/ , and playing it that way.

>> No.4638502

>>4634090
>640x400

why though

>> No.4638506

>>4638502
80 less lines to draw

>> No.4639015

>>4638502
I said anything 640x400 or higher; I wanted to get it running at 640x480 but that fucked up too, as did 800x600, etc.
320x200 and 320x240 work though

>> No.4639406
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4639406

I've been trying to get Langrisser 1 on PC to work, but I'm not exactly sure how to get it working. My main issue that I've been stuck on is getting the CD image to be read as the Langrisser CD, but it keeps saying that it's either not recognizing it as Langrisser or not reading it at all. I've tried looking the issue up online, but even on that one forum dedicated to the game, I can't figure out how to fix this issue. All of the documentation that came with the files for the game also confused the heck out of me. Not really sure if maybe I just missed a step or completely messed something up. One thing I noticed was that the download I found had the music files already in .wav form, and the guide I've seen talked about converting the .ogg files to .wav, so I'm not sure if maybe the files available to me are just not compatible with this method or what.

>> No.4639578

>>4639406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWB0gdOZvjY

http://theisozone.com/downloads/pc/windows-games/langrisser-i-the-art-of-the-swords-war/

I hope one of these is helpful.

>> No.4640604

>>4639015
oh ok

>> No.4640609
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>>4609854
How can I run this shit smoothly on my Snes classic mini? I've tried all google has to offer with no results

>> No.4642269

>>4640609
Did you even get it on your SNES Classic yet?

>> No.4643352

>>4637519
Anon might also want to buy a high quality screwdriver which actually fits the screws he's trying to work on, otherwise it's going to be strip city all over again when he replaces them.

>> No.4644317

>>4637513
I can't get any PS1 emulation to run at all.

>> No.4645814

>>4609854
I'm trying to get GZdoom running on my bros laptop but it freezes at startup and sometimes cause the laptop to crash

i have the necessary WAD files but i can't seem to figure out what is wrong.

>> No.4645894

>>4620593
That's good taste, anon.

>>4620616
I read that virtual machines don't support 3D graphics, is that true? I want to run Lego Chess and Lego Island

>> No.4645963

>>4645894
Not true at all, if you are using PCem or 86Box. That's actually one of the main draws of using those, since it allows for playing Win9X games with 3D graphics using API's like 3dfx Glide or S3D. I see videos online of people playing Lego Island through PCem, so it should work fine.

>> No.4646174

>>4645814
Have you read the OP in the Doom General Thread?

>> No.4648438

>>4644317
This is a very good sign. It is necessary to ignore PSX emus until they can do it right.

>> No.4650295

>>4648438
that's bullshit

I just wanna play some PS1 games

>> No.4651171

>>4610245
Why play with a worse control scheme?

>> No.4651356

>>4642269
Of course, I have the patched rom, the japanse rom, the tools the IP I've tried header and no header, got the C7 error and stuff...

>> No.4652982

Do SNES rom hacks that are simple translations work with flash carts? Been thinking of picking one up because I don't really like emulating shit on PC for whatever reason.

>> No.4653659

>>4652982
Most will work fine if the game works. Some romhacks are made with feature that only work in certain emulators (taking advantage of the emulator itself), so those won't work on real hardware. "Simple translations" probably aren't like that.

>> No.4653895

>>4653659
Thanks. I figured as much but y'know, better to ask before spending the money.

>> No.4656474

How do I get Sega Model 3 emulation working?

I mostly just want to play SpikeOut.

What is the latest version, where can I get it, and how do I set it up?

>> No.4656609

>>4656474
OP specifically says to GOOGLE shit yourself first, and the emulator is the first result for "Sega Model 3 Emulator". If you won't even put that amount of effort into this, don't expect me to walk you through setup.

>> No.4656647

>>4656609
And that shit doesn't work for shit.

>> No.4657146

>>4656647
>supermodel doesn't work
Yeah, that's why it's the recommended Model 3 emulator, because it doesn't work.

>> No.4657391

>>4657146
AFAIK it only works for about half the games.

>> No.4657460

>>4657146
I've seen people refer to newer versions of the emulator than what is available on the official site, and apparently these newer versions are better/required for running some of the games. Where would you even get shit like that?

>> No.4657526

>>4657460
Hint: Check other pages on the official site, like the forum.

>> No.4658780

Someone on /v/ said that you don't need to "mount" ISO files and can just extract shit from them and run or install games that way. Is this legit and if so how is it done?

>> No.4659339

>>4658780
If you are talking about like, old PC games, yes, you can do that with some of them. It's the equivalent of copying the files off the CD into a folder and then running the installer from there. Some games won't run without the CD in a drive (virtual or physical) though.
You can open ISOs with 7zip. This is also handy when you just need one file from the disc.
Some games don't even need to be installed, you could just copy the files and run the exe and it might work. Other games will work partially but fail because they look for registry keys that haven't been set, etc.

If you don't understand this stuff easily, you should just stick to following step-by-step directions.

>> No.4661009

>>4659339
Is there any way to tell which games will work and which won't before you go waste time doing that?

>> No.4661309

>>4661009
Researching which games set registry keys etc. would take more time than just double clicking on the exe and seeing if it runs.

>> No.4662685

I've found that with some emulators older versions will run better on my PC than the newest versions. Is there any quick way to tell which version of an emulator will give the best performance on your PC, or do you have to just figure it out by trial and error?

>> No.4662931

>>4609854
I have audio going from av cables to a cheap pair of wal mart speakers (black spider I think they're called). I would like to somehow direct it to a pair of Bluetooth wireless headphones, but I'm not sure how. The speakers I'm using have a headphone jack. If I put a Bluetooth transmitter in that could I pick it up with my headphones? Or could I bypass the speakers entirely with a transmitter that accepts an av cable? Would something like this work?
https://m.ebay.com/itm/2in-1-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Wireless-A2DP-for-TV-Stereo-Audio-Adapter/112480101345?epid=500706002&hash=item1a305623e1:g:czcAAOSwxxdZZ3cE

>> No.4663682
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>>4662685
It depends, but basically no. Some specific emulators like MAME famously have dozens of different versions that are known to have substantial differences in speed and compatibility, so you might be able to look up specific information about those. But for the most part yes it is going to be trial and error. If you experiment for a while, you might start to get a sense for what kinds of things are more likely to be faster on your specific machine.

>>4662931
Bluetooth "transmitters" for audio are not very common devices, but if you want to send audio from an analog source to wireless BT headphones, that is probably the only way to do it. As for your other question, do you understand what pic related is for?

>> No.4664989

>>4663682
>but if you want to send audio from an analog source to wireless BT headphones, that is probably the only way to do it
Gotcha, thanks. I ended up ordering the transmitter from the link in my last post. I'll let you know how that works if this thread is still alive when they arrive.
>As for your other question, do you understand what pic related is for?
Yup. I'm actually using something similar to connect the nes audio to the speakers.

>> No.4666124

>>4664989
>I'm actually using something similar to connect the nes audio to the speakers.
Then you see how you could use the same thing to connect the NES directly to the transmitter, without using the speakers at all.

You may have big problems with latency though. BT audio latency can be in the hundreds of ms, which you will notice.

>> No.4667427

>>4663682
thanks for the info

>> No.4669110

>>4651356
no idea what to tell you

>> No.4669885

>>4611591
I think you can fuck around with the configuration file? I dunno. Some GOG games have a setup executable that you can run to modify that stuff.

>> No.4670185

>>4611591
Look in the configuration file and mess around with these parameters
>windowresolution=1024x768
>output=opengl
>hwscale=2.00

>> No.4672198

>>4670185
Yeah, there's a bunch of shit you can do by editing the configuration files, assuming that you know exactly what you're doing.

>> No.4672334

>>4672198
>there's a bunch of shit you can do by editing the configuration files
As it should be. All aspects of a program should be configurable. If the program you are trying to use has extensive configuration files, you can feel more comfortable that you are actually in control of what it is going to do.

>assuming that you know exactly what you're doing
It might look intimidating, but you don't really have to know anything. Anything you change, you can change back, so you can experiment without risk. It's much easier than having to change settings through a menu, which you might not even be able to access again if you accidentally break the program.

>> No.4673957 [DELETED] 

>>4672334
I think you're overestimating the average person's knowledge of computers.

>> No.4673964 [DELETED] 

>>4672334
I think you're overestimating how much the average person's knows about computers.

>> No.4673967

>>4672334
I think you're overestimating how much the average person knows about computers.

>> No.4674375

>>4673967
The average person (who probably has more misconceptions about computers than actual correct knowledge) doesn't use dosbox.
If you want to use dosbox, you should at least learn the basics. If you're not willing to do that, stick to browser-based emulator websites, SNES classic, etc.

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>>4609854
Anyone know how to change the username for the old MS-DOS games like "Girlfriend" & "Vida"

>> No.4676193

>>4675073
Do they not allow you to enter a user name?

>> No.4676989

>>4663682
Is there any version that would have gauntlet dark legacy actually work?

>> No.4677108

>>4676989
I did a little searching and it looks like it runs in MAME, but the hardware requirements to run it smoothly are unreasonable.

>> No.4678812

>>4676989
In MAME? I doubt you could run it full speed.

>> No.4678830

>>4676989
>gauntlet dark legacy actually work?
Works in MAME as of 0.155 as far as I know. Just played it a while ago using 0.170, i5 2nd gen with 8GBs of RAM, ran at mostly fullspeed. Took 15 minutes to load the game(seriously, 15 minutes), but it ran well.

Dunno why it takes 15 minutes to load when Gauntlet Legends only takes 1-2 minutes to load.

>> No.4679792

>>4676193
Nope for GF it just defaults to Nigel when you try & enter a different name it just get's scrambled

>> No.4680806

>>4679792
That's weird.

>> No.4680985

I can't get Army Men Air Tactics to work on Win 7, installing works but it says I don't have the disc insterted when I want to play it (doesn't matter if I try physical or virtualy mount)

>> No.4682882 [DELETED] 

>>4680985

>> No.4684667
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I bought a Nyko Hyper Pak Plus for my N64 on eBay. It's one of those 2-in1 memory card and rumble pack deals with 4 "pages" of memory cards.

It was giving me constant errors about being corrupt every time I turned off the console, so I replaced the internal battery thinking that might be the problem. This doesn't seem to have fixed the issue at all.

If I just hit the reset button, the saves will still be there, but if I actually power the system off, none of the saves hold at all and it will again say it is corrupt. I also tried using different controllers in case that was the issue.

Is it fucked? Anything I can do to fix it? At least the rumble function still works, so it's not a total loss.

>> No.4686897

>>4684667
Is there an internal battery in the device?

>> No.4687291

>>4686897
There is, but after replacing it it still isn't working.

>> No.4688860

>>4687291
Then I don't know what to tell you, because that's exactly what I was going to suggest.

>> No.4688876

Do snes game pcbs git into super famicom shells?

>> No.4690745

>>4688876
repeat this in english

>> No.4691487

>>4690745
It's a one-letter typo with a letter that is adjacent on the keyboard. "Do SNES game PCBs fit into Super Famicom shells?" is what he meant to say. Did you really have difficulty understanding that?

I don't know the answer, and it seems like a pointless question, but he's obviously asking because they are similar sizes and shapes.

>> No.4692283

>>4652982
they do playing though final fantasy VI right now with the old translation patch on the 3ds

>> No.4693716

>>4691487
You really want to put the guts of a Japanese game into the American plastic casing?

WHY?

>> No.4693740

>>4693716
Did you even read my post?
>it seems like a pointless question

>> No.4695484

>>4693740
WHY would you even want to do that?

>> No.4695583

>>4695484
You're a slow one, aren't you. Please READ my fucking post if you are going to reply to me. I don't want to put SNES games in sfc shells. I just replied because you couldn't read English with one minor typo. If you have ever seen the cartridges, you can see why someone might be curious about that (similar sizes and shapes, as I said), which I only point out because it makes the interpretation of the question obvious.

I don't know why that other anon wants to do it. He probably bought a cheap caseless chinese repro with a fan translation of a JP-only game like Live-A-Live and wants to install it in the original case so that he can look at the original art while still playing the game in English. Or he has a caseless everdrive meant for a SNES and wants to know if he can install it in a cheap sfc casing he found on alibaba. Use your imagination. However, as I am now repeating for a third time, it seems pretty pointless to me.

>> No.4697176

Bump

>> No.4698068

>>4639406
I had no idea there was a PC port of that.

>> No.4699698
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I have a 486DX4-100 machine and I use the Win98SE DOS at the moment. This game does not work on it so far. It just kicks me back to the DOS prompt. I have never tried the game before, and it looks a lot like Power Drift which I loved in the arcades. All my other old DOS games work, like Halloween Harry, Wing Commander 2, Tyrian, Princess Maker 2, Civilization, Sam & Max: Hit the Road, etc. but those were games I had from US computers, I think this World Rally Fever game is from Europe. I don't know if it is a bad copy of the game or just something with Euro games. Any ideas?

>> No.4700054

>>4699698
Probably not related to being European. Is it a DOS game or a windows game? Have you tried launching it from DOS (i.e., without windows loaded). Also, check your system memory. Some games need almost all of the 640K available. Optimizing memory use is a bitch but necessary for gayman.

>> No.4702130

>>4634090
Did you seriously take a photograph of your computer screen?

>> No.4702146

>>4702130
Hush, this is on a dedicated retro machine without internet; there's also the fact that it's a native DOS game, and that I wasn't sure how it'd turn out looking in a screenshot