/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4600410]

Why is SMB3 so much better than SMW?

[Anonymous No.4600448]

Because in this game Bowser went full psycho and put all his armed forces to wreak havoc.

[Anonymous No.4600450]

>>4600410
I dunno. I prefer 2.

[Anonymous No.4600517]

3 vs world shitposting? Yawn.
At least post some rare art or something

[Anonymous No.4600650]

>>4600410
SMW didn't add anything new to the gameplay of SMB3.

[Anonymous No.4600676]

>>4600410
Because you're playing the japanese version

[Anonymous No.4600679]

>>4600410
it really isn't.
>>4600517
i agree, it's nothing but shitposting for the sake of it.

[Anonymous No.4600687]

>>4600450
Aaaugh what the fuck

[Anonymous No.4600710]

It's just more challenging.

SMW is essentially the proto New Super Mario Bros. It's got ugly aesthetics too.

[Anonymous No.4600724]

>>4600410
Older generation game that had more enemies, more power-ups, more level variety, more mini-games, more challenge, really it just had more everything. SMW was great, but an obvious step backwards.

[Anonymous No.4600749]

I think SMW has a lot of things that are pushed to show off what they can do on a super nintendo, like Yoshi, layer 2 shenanigans, etc. Mario 3 feels like a presentation of pushing the NES to their limit while SMW feels like showing off "here's what we can't do on NES". Depending on you roll, one will feel more comfortable than the other.

Mario 3 definitely has a lot more items but honestly, I'm mostly just using the leaf in that game. Just like how I'm most likely just going to be using cape in Mario world. they let you control your jumps people!

Level design in both them is excellent though for their respective systems.

[Anonymous No.4600763]

>>4600710
Highly disagree. World is still the only Mario game with upward/diagonal up throwing mechanics, as well as its own distinct physics and controls that makes it the favorite of the romhack community. The New series actually went back to a more similar smb3 approach with the controls, as well as adding some new mechanics, but nothing like smw.
Both 3 and World are timeless classics.

[Anonymous No.4600891]

If it's so much better where's the asm-tier romhacks?

[Anonymous No.4601285]

>>4600410
SMB3 is not that much better. The main problem with SMW is that it's a bit unbalanced. The cape is a bit too powerful and and easy to get for the level design in the game.

[Anonymous No.4601293]

>>4600710
Both games are piss easy, why would challenge even a factor to consider in a Mario game?

[Anonymous No.4601475]

>>4601293
I've beat demon souls to dks2 and I would consider smb3 to be on the same level of difficulty as the souls games.
They're not brutal, arcade hard, but certainly they take some perseverance.
A truly breezy game would be the gba klonoa.

Also smw is better.

[Anonymous No.4601508]

>>4601475
This guy gets it.
I usually call these "moderate challenge by classic made for console standards", which is under the hardest console games, thus the average arcade game and finally the hardest arcade games. So it's around 4th tier of difficulty, equivalent to easy arcades such as Nemesis.

[Anonymous No.4601547]

>>4600763
>>4600891
>muh romhacks
Guess the vanilla game is just that shitty, nobody wants to play it

[Anonymous No.4601550]

>>4601547
I played it when I was 10. I'm better now.

[Anonymous No.4601570]

It isn't.
>fighting Boom Boom all the fucking time
>autoscrolling levels up the ass
>every koopaling level is a boring autoscroller
>World 4 is filler

[Anonymous No.4601575]

>>4601570
What's with this recent complaint about autoscrolling levels? What's wrong with those unless you're a speedrunner?

[Anonymous No.4601582]

>>4601575
they create a lower skill ceiling

[Anonymous No.4601587]

>>4600410
I can't believe this is actually a controversial opinion. Even as a kid I knew SMB3 was superior.

[Anonymous No.4601596]

Why ist there no chad SMB3 and virgin SMW comparison yet?

[Anonymous No.4601604]

>>4601596
>thing i don't like
>thing i like

[Anonymous No.4601605]

>>4601582
That's an issue for speedrunning but not much else, man

[Anonymous No.4601608]

>>4601508
>Mario is hard

holy fuck

[Anonymous No.4601617]

>>4601605
so? that doesn't make it not terrible. most of the time the screen scrolls so slowly that the platforming becomes dull.

[Anonymous No.4601623]

I favor SMB3 over SMW, but I played SMB3 way more than the latter. I didn't like the whole Yoshi thing either.

[Anonymous No.4601651]

I prefer SMB3 because of all the powers Mario can pick up. SMW didn't have a kuribo shoe you could jump into to smash goombas and walk on spikes, that alone makes the game lower tier. If SMW had more powers and variation in level design it would probably beat SMB3.

[Anonymous No.4601654]

>>4601547
That's one (retarded) way to spin it.

[Anonymous No.4601656]

SMB3 is better in every way. If you prefer SMW it’s either because it has better quality graphics or nostalgia

[Anonymous No.4601658]

>>4601604
SMB3 is objectively the better game.
If you think differently you simply have bad taste.
Maybe it's time to just accept that.

[Anonymous No.4601660]

>>4601658
oh man. you sure showed me.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.4601661]

>>4601656
But smv3's gameplay is way better though.

[Anonymous No.4601662]

>>4601651
>le meme shoe

[Anonymous No.4601664]

>>4600410
Idk, why do we keep having these retarded threads where we keep debating which game is better than the other? Both games are equally great IMO

[Anonymous No.4601668]

I found enemy design in SMW to be annoying as fuck. Everything takes 2-3 hits to kill and bumrushes you like a cunt while respawning infinitely. Sometimes the game would literally just spawn an enemy on you with instant, unavoidable hit. Where were there even football players, what a random thing to have in a Mario game

[Anonymous No.4601669]

I kinda like smw better mainly because of the engine and how you have so many tricks and shit to do with the plumber

[Anonymous No.4601670]

the new super mario games are objectively better

[Anonymous No.4601671]

>>4601664
Well, what are you trying to get at there?

[Anonymous No.4601674]

>>4601669
How did you think of the graphics in SMV3?

[Anonymous No.4601678]

>>4601668
Were talking about a series about a plumber fighting a giant turtle dragon to rescue the princess of a bunch of mushroom people in a time where somehow monarchy exists but were also in the BC ages with dinosaurs

[Anonymous No.4601680]

>>4601669
And the gameplay as well?

[Anonymous No.4601682]

>>4601617
>everything about games has to be tailored to speedrunning
You probably hate shoot 'em ups since you can't speedrun them (except for the bosses). And yeah, just what I thought, it's the recent speedrunning meme that has made people start to hate these levels.
>>4601608
Mario and le Souls is harder than a lot of stuff, such as the Kirby games or most modern games. But as you can see I didn't consider those really that hard at all, just not absolutely trivial.

[Anonymous No.4601690]

>>4601682
Not that guy. I don't give a fuck about speedrunning, autoscrollers are still shit. I just want to go through the level at my own pace, thats all.

[Anonymous No.4601691]

>>4601670
Nsmb is a guilty pleasure for me. I grew up with them and theyre just so nostalgic to me. Yknow its kinda like when you were 4 and shitting yourself over a joke in a stick figure animatikn on newgrounds that you didnt even get and then when you come back to the animation and actually get the joke its not funny but you figure ah whatever let me be a kid but then your mom comes downstairs and starts bitching about how you need a life and need to stop jacking to off to anime girls and then after the fight you're left on the streets with nothing but a ds and you pop it open to see nsmb loaded up and you play on your 11 year old save file while you starve to death behind a mcdonalds. Its like one of those ay luigi?

[Anonymous No.4601693]

>>4601682
>strawman
>completely ignores my point that they are still mostly boring to play

[Anonymous No.4601702]

>>4601691
I just like those games because of all the added mechanics and having powerups that aren't too overpowered aside from the mega mushroom but that's only temporary and not very common anyway.

[Anonymous No.4601705]

>>4601702
Yeah

[Anonymous No.4601714]

>>4601690
But they are meant to take you out of your comfort zone to add some tension and mix things up.
>>4601693
I'm barely into Mario (and not into Souls at all), btw. I can see you considering these too easy and only enjoying the three higher tiers of challenge I described. However, for a lot of people these games are still a decent enough ("relaxing") challenge they enjoy, it's not totally 0 engaging walking simulator stuff. This is the bare minimum of challenge I can respect, though.

[Anonymous No.4601718]

>>4601714
boring me to death isn't tension. you're not even responding to the right people. i'm done with this illiterate mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.4601720]

>>4600687
You didn't know that the mushroom tops were just their hats?

[Anonymous No.4601738]

<< still the best physics and music, the momentum is just insane, this nigga doesn't need a flying cape

[Anonymous No.4601741]

>>4601738
This nigga heavy and dont stop quick enough is what he is

[Anonymous No.4601747]

Will SMW fags ever stop being in denial about SMB3 being the vastly superior game? It's sad to see.

[Anonymous No.4601759]

>>4600410
It never was
Nice trolling btw

[Anonymous No.4601764]

>>4601718
>I can see you considering these too easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFtcLJVN8yg
>I can see you considering these too easy

[Anonymous No.4602939]

SMW is annoyingly easy. SMB3 is a proper challenge.

[Anonymous No.4603089]

>>4601617
>so?
Because most people aren't insane trannies and don't want to watch insane trannies autistically go through a game quickly deriving no pleasure from it.

[Anonymous No.4603789]

>>4600749
If you can't control your jumps without the game's respective flying items, you're just not very good at the game. Fire flower is the real patrician's choice.

[Anonymous No.4603806]

>>4600676
This ain't Bayou Billy, the regional differences are miniscule. I don't know what you mean.

[Anonymous No.4604032]

>>4601668
>while respawning infinitely
Like in SMB3?
>Sometimes the game would literally just spawn an enemy on you with instant, unavoidable hit
...what? How?

[Anonymous No.4604060]

>>4601668
I always thought the football players seemed out of place too but in retrospect I love them. some of the most memorable enemies in a game full of memorable enemies

[Anonymous No.4604062]

>>4601575
The autoscroll is often very slow. It makes the game more tedious to play when I can only progress at 1/3rd of my preferred speed.

[Anonymous No.4604076]

>>4600410

Funny. I was thinking this today. The answer to me is the jump from SMB to SMB3 was bigger than from SMB3 to SMW.

I still think SMW is the slightly better game. Like if SMB3 was a 99/100 SMW would be 100/100.

[Anonymous No.4604129]

>>4600410
I still haven't beaten world 8.

[Anonymous No.4604298]

>>4600410
It's a little bit better. I love them both but prefer 3 probably for the controls which just felt tighter. I still can't believe that it came out in 88.
>>4601575
Common complaint that's been around for years. They interrupt the pacing of a game.
>>4604129
It's a bastard but it's worth it.

[Anonymous No.4606308]

They each have their different strengths.

[Anonymous No.4606342]

>>4600450
>Manolocabezaehuevo.jpg

[Anonymous No.4606359]

>>4601691
>4 year old on newgrounds.
I've never felt so old

[Anonymous No.4608456]

SMB3 is a better game while SMW is a better work of art.

[Anonymous No.4608464]

>>4608456
>better work of art
What does that mean? Narratively and aesthetically they're almost the same game.

[Anonymous No.4608508]

>>4608464
>8 bit grid on random squares
>16 bit contiguous world

[Anonymous No.4608515]

honestly, i prefer SMW, but only because i played it more as a kid.

[Anonymous No.4608630]

>>4608508
>greater resolution = "better work of art"

[Anonymous No.4608691]

>>4608630
That's what I said, idiot.