/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4581397]

Can we talk about Donkey Kong Country 3?
It was one of my favorite games as a child on the Super Nintendo, unlike others I didn't felt dissapointed by it, I love the graphics, the music (a reason I don't like the GBA port is the different music), the bosses, the lost world...
It was a vastly different theme from 2, we went from pirates to B-Movie theme but god damn it was it enjoyable.

Fuck the Spider boss using Kiddy tho

[Anonymous No.4581415]

>>4581397
It's a cool game. However, I sense an incoming wave of shitposting coming to this thread.

[Batowl No.4581417]

>>4581397
Cute game.

[Anonymous No.4581428]

>>4581397
Great game and one of the best trilogies of all time. 2>1>3.

[Anonymous No.4581435]

>>4581415
pls no
My favorite music tract is Frosty Frolics, I wish it was used more in the game. I listen to it every winter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m73et5tXg28

>>4581428
I think 1 and 3 are on the same level of quality... maybe 3 a bit more due all the content, but still.

[Anonymous No.4581440]

>>4581435
Did you play 3 first? I had 1 when it came out but unfortunately didn't get around to 3 till 2000 when I picked it up at a pawn shop for cheap. Can't go wrong with any DKC game.

[Anonymous No.4581442]

It's fine.

It's my least favorite of the original trilogy, but it's still solid. The progression with the map was neat.

[Anonymous No.4581446]

>>4581435
This one is pretty up there for me. My other favorites are Water World and my number one would be Cascade Capers. I prefer Eveline's style to Dave's, even in the first game (my favorite there is Northern Hemispheres). I guess my taste for 70's synthesizer ambiance (Klaus Schulze and the like) is showing.

[Anonymous No.4581458]

>>4581440
Actually I played it on this order: 1>3>2 since it was the order I got the games from my folks.

[Anonymous No.4581461]

>>4581446
>Northern Hemispheres
>Cascade Capers
>Water World
You have excellent taste and I would invite you a banana milkshake.

[Anonymous No.4581468]

>>4581461
For the record, I don't think Dave's scores are bad, I just prefer the deep and slightly creepy style of Eveline.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-ATeFGN2Ss

[Anonymous No.4581478]

>>4581468
I get you.
When David Wise got dark, though, it was good. The DKC2 map screen and Lockjaw's Saga were fucking great.
Forest music was also so moody it was amazing.
I want to go back to my childhood

[Anonymous No.4581482]

>>4581397
I love have a DKC thread every 5 days. Keeps this place fresh and new. Bonus points if you mention how DK3 is underrated

[Anonymous No.4581483]

It's alright, not as good as DKC and doesn't hold a candle to DKC2. I thought the bosses were the best part, I thought the Spider boss was really cool. Different strokes but I thought it was cool.

[Anonymous No.4581487]

>>4581482
We haven't had a DKC thread in a while, though yeah, some weeks ago the DKC spam was too much.

[Anonymous No.4581501]

>>4581461
No coconut creampies?

[Anonymous No.4581520]

>>4581482
>>4581487
I wasn't here a few weeks ago, I seldom pop on /vr/, what happened?

[Anonymous No.4581529]

>>4581520
We had almost daily threads for a while, sometimes more than once at a time. They were mostly shitposting and warring on what entry was the best.

[Anonymous No.4581543]

>>4581529
Oh that sucks. I just wanted to make a chill DKC3 thread because I think people throw a lot on unfair shit at it. I still think it's one of the best SNES games, I loved the sound, graphics and level design.

[Anonymous No.4581553]

>>4581543
I unironically love season 1 of the cartoon and I think the graphics used in that season were super close to the DKC1 graphics.

Season 2 when they changed to a Taiwanese studio was when it went to shit.

[Anonymous No.4581568]

>>4581543
Don't worry, this thread is OK. It's very clear when an OP doesn't have bad intentions. I'm pretty surprised to see how the DKC shiposters seem to be completely gone.

[Anonymous No.4581638]

>>4581397
Very good game, but Kiddy Kong is a fucking stupid character concept. It would be 100% better if they had him replaced by Donkey Kong

[Anonymous No.4581717]

>>4581638
That was the original plan until some faggot at Rareware asked "But why would K. Rool kidnap Diddy and not Donkey?"

[Anonymous No.4582042]

>>4581397
I feel like most of the people that shit on DKC3 or say it's the worst would change their minds if Kiddy were DK and Ellie were Ramby. Most of the complaints I hear about the game end up having "KIDDY SUCKS I HATE HIM" at some point, if not being the only point for why they dislike the game. If it were DK and Dixie saving Diddy, I'm sure a lot more people would open up to it.
That aside, I think DKC3 is the second best in the trilogy. I've heard some say that it has a really tough difficulty (which I would have agreed to as a kid, Mekanos was a major roadblock for my childhood) but I think it's pretty easy in the beginning and doesn't truly start to gain any noticeable difficulty until K3, with each world from there experiencing some stair-step difficulty. It's also got the best secret hunting I feel, it's the most fair with how it challenges you because rather than a bunch of jumping in death pits or looking for fake walls it usually hints you as to where the secret is or at the least just takes a bit of exploring to find. I played the trilogy back to back and didn't even need to use a guide for DKC3's secrets, where as I had to use it two or three times for DKC2's harder secrets and quite a few times for DKC1, which is probably the least fun to get all the secrets for because of how cryptic they can be. The post-game world is also fairly challenging without being Animal Antics hard. Cartoonish style and musical compositions aside, I think DKC3's got solid gameplay basis and is great for secret hunting, I still like DKC2 more but I think it's got better polish that puts it above DKC1, which is still great in its own regard despite being the least developed and polished due to being the first.

[Anonymous No.4582049]

>>4582042
The most legitimate popular complaint against DKC3 would be the excess of gimmicky levels. Some people just aren't into that.

[Anonymous No.4582525]

>>4582049
DKC games are all about gimmick levels though. I just replayed DKC1 last night and even in that one almost every level past the first world has a gimmick and they aren't even that interesting compared to what the following two games do.

[Anonymous No.4582569]

DKC3 definitely has the best boss fights in the trilogy...

[Anonymous No.4582575]

>>4582569
That boss fight was amazing and really fun.

>>4582525
I think the minecart stages are fun though

[Anonymous No.4582586]

>>4582042
I like all 3 of the DKC games, and find them all to be exemplary games. But find 3 to be the “worst” because the atmosphere feels artificial to me.
I mean the first and second title feel like going on an adventure. The third feels laid back and like I’m watching a play.

I don’t know if that makes sense. I just don’t feel as connected to the game in the third one as I do to the first 2 games.

Just my 2 cents.

[Anonymous No.4582591]

When I was younger, I always imagined that K.Rool had been horribly disfigured after his defeat in DKC2, and eventually rebuilt by the Kremlings as K.Roolenstein.

[Anonymous No.4582598]

>>4582591
It's weird how he looks like both a mad scientist, and Frankenstein at the same time... almost as if he was stitched back together and then heartlessly began performing horrifying scientific experiments on his own army of Kremlings, explaining why they appear so strange and mechanical in DKC3.

[Anonymous No.4582662]

>>4582586
You write with such an arrogance, as if your opinion holds any weight but the content of your post strongly suggests otherwise.

[Anonymous No.4582858]

>>4582525
Some feel DKC3 gets a bit overboard with the gimmicks, both in quantity and deviation from the standard platforming formula.

[Anonymous No.4582861]

>>4582591
I thought they were separate characters.

But no, turns out he's just a freak with a flair for the dramatic.

Too bad he's a dead character

[Anonymous No.4583269]

>>4581483
>I thought the bosses were the best part

The sea urchin boss and the waterfall boss were not okay

[Anonymous No.4583325]

>>4582591

I liked how they kept him a secret so you thought "Why no K.Rool man? That KAOS thing is LAME!" until he appeared.
ALso I have seen people rambling about this game outing themselves not having EVER played it by using K.Rool's absence as a complaint...

[Anonymous No.4583518]

>>4582858
I really disagree, I think DKC3 laid it's gimmicks at a good pace, making every level fun while keeping a level of "Oh man, what am I in for next!? I can't wait"

>>4583325
>I have seen people rambling about this game outing themselves not having EVER played it by using K.Rool's absence as a complaint
The ultimate form of retardation huh? Wow.
I didn't had the manual or box for the game as a kid, since it was a second-hand purchase but as a kid I didn't focus on games' plot, so I didn't knew KAOS was the "new leader" of the Kremlings at the time.

[Anonymous No.4583551]

>>4581397
3 is better than 1. 2 is best. These are the facts.

[Anonymous No.4583572]

>>4583518
Most complaints are centered around the last world or so for the gimmicks AFAIK.

[Anonymous No.4584023]

>>4583269
I liked the sea urchin graphics as a child, it was disgusting and terrifying

[Anonymous No.4584040]

>>4581482
This, why can't we talk about all the NEW retro vidya?

[Anonymous No.4584134]

>>4581397
I have a lot of nostalgia towards 3 and i beat both 2 and 3 two week ago. This is how i feel.

2:
+Best level design
+Best music
+Better final boss battles
+Best lost world levels
+Diddy and Dixie are great to play as and are almost equally good. (Dixie's better)
+Swanky's quiz
+Good Boss fights
+Kino ending shot
+Enemy variety
+Comfy music in the most stressfull level (Barrels)
+Rambi
+Cranky and Wrinkly tips
+Coins are more usefull
- Too short
- Music gets repetitive after a while
- Cart level with the Hip-hop ghosts
- Ugly backgrounds and levels with exceptions being Vine, Bee, Ship and Castle
- Squawks levels (except the Bee boss, that was a good boss)
- Squawks racing level
- Saving system
- Map and World navigation
- Need coins to choose worlds even after beating the game

3:
+Best world map and navigation
+Setting
+Beaultiful backgrounds and levels (Exception is that place where you need to open the doors)
+Birds sidequest
+Good music
+Enemy variety
+Good boss fights
+Music
+Game Over screen is terrifying for children
+Bears
+Saving system
+More Kong throwing in order to clear levels and get Koins
+Getting the Koins
+Ellie is a fine replacement for Rambi
+Makes me want to go mountain camping
- Easier
- Mediocre final boss
- Squawks levels
- The Last world is FUCKING SHIT 0/10
- Last level before the final boss is the WORST DKC level i ever played. Gimmick inverted controls with cheap enemy placement.
- Dixie is a must for several levels
- Some levels are almost impossible to beat with Kiddie
- K.Roolestein, the genius scientist that is transforming animals into machines, used magic to trap a giant banana bird.
- Swanky is repetitive
- That fucking Enguarde boss
- If you fucked a barrel throw in order to get a Koin you need to die
- No Rambi
- Some enemies appear only in 1 or 3 levels
- Less Cranky
- Silver coins are useless after you get the Mirror and the shell

[Anonymous No.4584137]

>>4581397
>Can we talk about Donkey Kong Country 3?
Someone posts this bread every fucking week m8

[Anonymous No.4584384]

>>4584137
I haven't come here in over a year anon. I had no idea they had a dong spammer now.

[Anonymous No.4584392]

>>4581397
The game is str8 hop 'n bop garbage. I got it for Xmas when it was released and I thought it fucking sucked

[Anonymous No.4584432]

I played DKC3 shitloads back as a kid, it was after replaying the game in more recent times that I realized how bad it was when stacked up against the perfect predecessors. Still better than most platformers, but a bad Donkey Kong.

[Anonymous No.4584465]

>>4581717
>Diddy sneaks off to play hero on his own
>get captured
>DK and Dixie have to rescue him
This is not difficult. It's a fucking Donkey Kong game, they barely have plots in the first place.

[Anonymous No.4584475]

>>4584465
Honestly, I'd be curious to see if someone could make a ROM hack that replaces Kiddy with DK entirely (new sprites included, would probably need a new 3D model to base them off of) and how it would be received.

[Anonymous No.4584584]

>>4584023
It was visually interesting but the hitboxes were some shit

[Anonymous No.4584763]

>>4584134
How can one man have this shitty taste?

[Anonymous No.4585495]

I love this game. It has a lot of charm and atmosphere.

>tfw the bears
>tfw the interesting locations
>tfw the mystery

[Anonymous No.4585707]

>>4584763
Nah, he has good taste. Bad taste would be liking 1 over anything.

[Anonymous No.4586759]

>>4585707
All 3 are extremely solid games nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.4586781]

>thread gives me the urge to try DKC since I never had SNES
>find out about Nintendo mass DMCA from last year

[Anonymous No.4586792]

I haven't played 3 in at least 20 years. I just remember thinking Kiddy was dumb, I wanted DK back.

[Anonymous No.4586824]

>>4586781
>Implying
There are other sites besides Emuparadise, anon.

[Anonymous No.4588150]

>>4581397
about that spoiler, you can throw the barrel upwards

[Anonymous No.4588151]

>>4588150
I know, but dumbass Kiddy throws it on a weird arc it misses a lot

[Anonymous No.4588290]

We rented DKC a lot but DKC3 is the only one I owned and I remember either 100%ing it, or getting really really close but not knowing that you had to circle the rocks (or whatever the fuck that secret was). My little bro figured it out, though.

[Anonymous No.4588293]

>>4584134
DKC2 has some FRUSTRATING levels that get fucking annoying if you saved a few levels back. Toxic tower and animal antics come to mind

[Anonymous No.4588332]

>>4588290

For that they put Blunder in.
He blurts that out if you visit him for the 3rd or 4th time and are in the middle of the game or so, then says sth like "Still haven't found the lost world huh? Not circled the rocks huh? That's all I am saying!"

[Anonymous No.4588337]

[Anonymous No.4588387]

My uncle got DKC3 for my brothers and me for Christmas back in 1996/1997, so it has fond memories for me. I wake up early every Christmas and play through as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.4588392]

>>4581397
I consider them all good but I'm a 2>3>1 kinda guy, I thought 3 was pretty good all things considered. All the bosses in 3 look horrifying and the music probably helped that

[Anonymous No.4589726]

>>4586781
More sites anon, I recently downloaded all 3 and currently am halfway through 2. It's well worth it, using keyboard for a little extra difficulty

[Anonymous No.4590920]

>>4588392
Factory music in DKC3 is omnious as fuck, moreso than the DKC1 factory theme

[Anonymous No.4590949]

>>4581397
funny you ask, i replayed through the whole thing a couple weeks ago, after not touching it since my childhood. I was definitely impressed by the music, it's pretty intensely progressive ambient electronica considering it was from the 90's. the levels aren't that great, and I don't really like how almost every one of them is a "gimmick" level, but I do like the one where the saw is coming up the tree.
The environments are amazing, I remember when I was little I didn't know why the snow world was named K3, now I get that it's a reference to the mountain K2.
I'm not a big fan of all the fetch quests on the overworld, or the "simon" banana bird games. but most of all I really hate the whining and crying when you lose a level, that's probably the worst thing about the entire game....

[Anonymous No.4590956]

1 Was the solid classic, 2 was the masterpiece, 3 was when they tried too much. The game itself was fun, but it wasn't as good as 1, let alone 2.

[Anonymous No.4592798]

>>4581435
what about playing it every winter with the Christmas code?

[Anonymous No.4592838]

It's the Rareiest of the trilogy, for better or worse.

[Anonymous No.4594458]

>>4586824
Can you name a few? I just want to play Megaman.

[Anonymous No.4594569]

>>4589726
>using keyboard for a little extra difficulty

Unless you're using a PS/2 keyboard with a retarded layout configuration like ZX + Arrow Keys, then there's no extra difficulty

If anything, keyboard is far easier for twitchy movements.

[Anonymous No.4594592]

DKC3 has most of what made the series good, but has a few issues that really kill it for me:

1. Heavily nerfed platforming physics that make the Kongs feel super heavy and hard to control compared to 2. Air speed is heavily nerfed, making it difficult to control yourself in the air. It's most noticeable in areas where you have to alternately jump left and right to climb a screen (like in mountain levels). In 2, you would be able to jump immediately upon landing without problem, but in three you have to awkwardly turn around and gain speed on each platform before jumping. It kinda reminds me of the jumping controls in Mario Bros. arcade.

2. Over-reliance on stage gimmicks.
Sometimes it's really cool but the bad ones suck real bad. Reverse-control swimming, half-speed platforming, ghost barrels, lightning lookout, and the koindozer stage are all a pain to play, even when you get good at them.

3. Other physics oddities like how you can get hit out of a roll while still in the roll animation (exists somewhat in 2, but far more common in 3).

4.. The bosses are some of the most creative but also some of the most annoying. This is minor compared to the other two.
(Fuck barbos forever.)

[Anonymous No.4594896]

>>4581397
Yeah, I didn't care for the pirate theme in the second game. I liked that this game was more or less a return to form.