Pinball General: Futuristic Tiddies Edition

[Anonymous No.4579553]

This is the thread for the discussion of the wonderful game of pinball.

A beautiful Future Spa appeared at one of my locations today. I love these early solid-state Bally games, especially the widebodies (another nearby arcade has Hotdoggin', and I've turned the counter over on the Space Invaders table at a big convention). Future Spa in particular has a really great layout with things like the lane looping around the eject, the far left side "kicker", and of course those Bally inline drop targets.

What pinball have you been playing recently?

[Anonymous No.4579784]

Dialed In, although it seems often broken when I find it on location

[Anonymous No.4580130]

REMINDER THAT PINBALL IS LITERALLY THE BEST GAME EVER

[Anonymous No.4580416]

>>4579553
Santa Ana?

[Anonymous No.4581423]

Stern announces a partnership with NYC street brand Supreme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uoBXWyOnFg

Probably will be extremely limited. Notable because it's very different than other pins from a graphic design perspective. Not a giant mashup of conflicting colors and art.

[Anonymous No.4581903]

If pinball gets to be video games then airhockey and foosball do too

[Anonymous No.4582360]

>>4580416
Yep, looks like it replaced Paragon. I saw Paragon at AYCE Gogi in Van Nuys, maybe it's the same one.

[Anonymous No.4582550]

>>4579553
>turned the counter over
Real men 9 out early Bally SS tables

[Anonymous No.4582612]

I've been obsessed with the Pinball Arcade version of Fish Tales, and by that I've been frustrated as shit with it. Those shorter than standard flippers are as much a hassle as they are a godsend.

[Anonymous No.4582631]

Eurofag here. If you love pinball, head to the pinball museum in Budapest, Hungary. Super cheap entry, get to play all you want and it's a museum too. Hidden gem.

[Anonymous No.4582908]

Is there any other reason behind why pinball machines are so high scoring other than because pinball players are foolish enough to be subconsciously excited by really high numbers? Don't get offended if you're a lover of really high numbers, I think it's great that you've found something to enjoy.

[Anonymous No.4582912]

>>4582908
By high scoring I mean that you could convey the same amount of info with a lower score. Or would that even be possible?

[Anonymous No.4582950]

>>4582360
Bro OCSA here, can confirm, that barrcade is sick

[Anonymous No.4583060]

>>4582912
How would that top playfield even work?

[Anonymous No.4583276]

>>4582908
terrible bait and shitpost, good pinball players know it's all relative and aren't fooled by anything, we know what a good score is where as your normie plebian is most likely to hav a 2 min game and think their "millions" score is actually good.

>>4582612
what? i play irl one and pin arse and never noticed them having shorter flippers, on the real one that fucking ball lock is a complete shite that loves to deny you whilst pin arcs has the usual hoover lanes crap that makes it more a drain monster than irl in some ways, also you can back hand the lock shot something i've never managed to do on real one.

[Anonymous No.4583280]

>>4583060
>How would that top playfield even work?
i'd guess a flipper each.

[Anonymous No.4583523]

>>4580130
too much RNG

[Anonymous No.4583534]

>>4583276
So why are scores in the millions and billions? Just for normies? Not trying to bait or offend.

[Anonymous No.4583537]

>>4582908
Big numbers look cooler and feel more satisfying to score than smaller numbers, simple as that.
No need for subconscious shenanigans, I consciously know I like my numbers big. But there's a balance to this, though. Some pinball machine go a bit too far on their BIG scoring and it starts to feel artificial and hokey when every single target seems to award millions or even tens of millions and game scores have like half a dozen zeros at the end, implying they're just there for looks. The really big jackpots and awards still need to feel significant compared to the ordinary ones. Attack From Mars comes to mind as an example. Kick ass machine, but the scoring could use removing some of the zero padding.

[Anonymous No.4584053]

>>4583534
Because it feels instantly rewarding but like i said good players know the relativity and what a good score for each table actually is, it's pretty obvious.

[Anonymous No.4584768]

One thing about pinball: it has a lot of """waifus"""

[Anonymous No.4586207]

Is it just me, or is the billion point shot in Bride of Pinbot not very good game design? It overshadows everything else you do. Also, in your opinion, which Python game has the best ruleset/gameplay?

[Anonymous No.4586210]

What are the best pinball games for pc?
Total beginner here.

[Anonymous No.4586214]

>>4586210
Pinball FX 3, Pinball Arcade, Stern Pinball Arcade, and Visual Pinball.

FX 3 is made-up impossible tables, the two arcades are simulations of real tables, visual pinball is a free software that's been around for along time. The three paid games all come with one free table. I think there might be one more game for steam.

[Anonymous No.4586217]

>>4586207
>Is it just me, or is the billion point shot in Bride of Pinbot not very good game design?
It's a fun shot but it should of been for the jackpot and not a billion points. Seems crappy that someone plays a great BoP game and scores lets say 42,000,000 is outdone by a guy who has 1,011,000,000 points.

[Anonymous No.4586367]

>>4582912
That looks pretty fucking awesome.

[Anonymous No.4586381]

>>4584768
Nice wallpaper.

[Anonymous No.4586606]

>>4586210
Pro Pinball series.
Timeshock! and Big Race USA are both god-tier. Fantastic Journey has the same impeccable physics engine as the other two, but the table isn't quite as good. Still definitely worth playing, though.
For Timeshock!, grab the HD remake (pic related).

[Anonymous No.4586646]

a gentle reminder that sonic the hedgehog was inspired by this game

even though it seems quite obvious, not everyone gets that
took me years myself to realize that hard fact of life

[Anonymous No.4586707]

>>4586606
i second this but disagree on table rating, for me fantastic journey is top tier as is big race, timeshock ultra is truly a sight to behold but is my least fav table design wise (still great though).

>>4586207
>Is it just me, or is the billion point shot in Bride of Pinbot not very good game design?
it's dire, i have one on location near by that i played once, left ramp all day, got the bill shot and never played again, trash table.

[Anonymous No.4586712]

>>4586214
how the fuck can you list all that shite and miss pro pinball? fucksake sort yourself out. timeshock ultra is the best available on steam by FAR if you value photo realism and the best physics and a super deep ruleset.

[Anonymous No.4586883]

>>4586707
Interesting, probably the first time I've heard someone ranking Timeshock as their least favorite post-The Web PP tables. Any particular reasons it's at the bottom of your ranking?

For me, FJ's table design lacks that certain feeling of flow that TS and BRUSA have with their connecting shots and combos, instead going for a more old school feeling stop-and-go gameplay approach. Many of its game modes also feel less varied to me than those on TS and BRUSA. For example the main quest modes in FJ all follow the same pattern of hitting the currently lit target while occasionally hitting the spinner to keep the mode active.

[Anonymous No.4587467]

Agree or Disagree: I think Reversed Flipper modes are lame. Doesn't that kind of thing weaken muscle memory, however slightly?

I do like Inverted Flippers, though.

[Anonymous No.4587579]

Fellas, I think I've discovered my new favorite pin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghFmIK7ENYY

[Anonymous No.4587785]

>>4586207
Python was really more of an ideas guy than an actual designer. All of the most popular games that he worked on had at least one other major designer on it as well. And it shows. BOP is mostly a Trudeau design, Taxi is mostly a Mark Ritchie design, etc.

[Anonymous No.4587928]

>>4587467
>Doesn't that kind of thing weaken muscle memory, however slightly?
That's the point. It gets you out of your comfort zone. I just fucking hate it when a reversed flipper multiball doesn't have a brief ball save afterward. Fuck Ghostbusters.

[Anonymous No.4588074]

>>4586883
I'm more an old school pin fan so maybe that answers it, fantastic journey is just super satisfying but not overly deep, i love the multiball and learnt that shot so well that i often start the game mode with 2 locked then kick it off and lock the third giving me multiball in game mode all the way to crystal collect, the wizard mode is top tier, the style, music etc i love, i just enjoy everything about it. Timeshock isn't exactly low just i think it's a little over deep and it's just annoying somehow, defo more of a drain monster.Pic related is my pb for FJ btw which cleared the table twice, currently trying to break a billion in brusa.

[Anonymous No.4588893]

Do any of you have any experience with virtual pinball machines like this?

[Anonymous No.4589375]

>>4587928
I meant that it weakens muscle memory when you go back to regular flippers. But it's a marginal effect, I admit.

[Anonymous No.4589401]

The first time I play a table for the day, I almost always hit the outlane or drop the ball perfectly between the flippers immediately.

[Anonymous No.4589459]

LIONMAN

[Anonymous No.4589648]

>>4584768
Still makes my inner 12 year old's wiener tingle

[Anonymous No.4589650]

>>4584768
Still makes my inner 12 year old's wiener tingle

[Anonymous No.4589687]

Gotten kind of addicted to High Speed. While The Getaway is an obvious and welcome improvement, there's just something very raw about the first one. Both of them are amazing to blast high octane music to

[Anonymous No.4589706]

>>4589459
>LIONMAN
DEFEATS THE BALROG

[Anonymous No.4589727]

>>4589687
I so want a F-14 Tomcat. There is a couple near me but I'm not gonna overspend on a project that needs a playfield replacement or a players that some guy on craigslist wants 500 more than it's worth.

[Anonymous No.4589728]

>>4589687
oh dude i feel old now

[Anonymous No.4589753]

What's /vr/'s opinion re: GnR?

[Anonymous No.4589756]

>>4589727
I used to have one. Funny enough, I sold it to make room for a Getaway.

[Anonymous No.4589779]

>>4589727
>I so want a F-14 Tomcat.
Great pin. Good choice especially as a first table.
>There is a couple near me but I'm not gonna overspend on a project that needs a playfield replacement or a players that some guy on craigslist wants 500 more than it's worth.
The f14 tomcat pin is the 2nd most produced table so you can be picky and keep your eyes open for better deals.

[Anonymous No.4589882]

>>4589753
never played one, looks sick though.

[Anonymous No.4589885]

>>4589779
>The f14 tomcat pin is the 2nd most produced table
this can't be true? sure twilight zone surpassed it? i know 1st is addams family.

[Anonymous No.4589903]

>>4589885
>F14
14,502 units
>Twilight Zone
15,235

Had to look it up but your right. My mistake.

[Anonymous No.4589920]

>>4589903
I actually felt the need to look this up.

The Addams Family 20,270
Eight Ball 20,230
Flash 19,505
Playboy 18,250
Firepower 17,410
High Speed 17,080
Kiss 17,000
Star Trek 16,842
Mata Hari 16,260
Capt. Fantastic and The Brown Dirt Cowboy 16,155
Twilight Zone 15,235
Terminator 2: Judgment Day 15,202
Harlem Globetrotters On Tour 14,550
F-14 Tomcat 14,502

So yeah, not even top 10 most produced.

[Anonymous No.4589938]

>>4589920
Yeah. I got the memo. And I understand the policy on making mistakes on/vr. The problem is, I just forgot this one time. And I've already taken care of it here>>4589903 so it's not even a problem anymore.

[Anonymous No.4590424]

>>4589938
wasn't a problem anyway lad, even still that run for tomcat still surprises me.

[Anonymous No.4590462]

>>4588074
>I'm more an old school pin fan so maybe that answers it
Oh yeah, definitely does. FJ clearly has that classic, focused approach to its table design as opposed to the sprawling TS and BRUSA.
Funny, apart from the initial learning curve, I don't time TS to be particular drain monster, though its left and right ramps are a hazard zone. Along the course of the game you'll need to make a LOT of those ramp shots to charge the timedrive and any miss that bounces off the side of the ramps can be dangerous, especially if it puts the ball in a fast horizontal motion.

[Anonymous No.4590476]

>>4588074
>I'm more an old school pin fan so maybe that answers it
Oh yeah, definitely does. FJ clearly has that classic, focused approach to its table design as opposed to the sprawling TS and BRUSA.
Funny, apart from the initial learning curve, I don't feel TS to be a particular drain monster, though its left and right ramps are a definite hazard zone. Along the course of the game you'll need to make a LOT of those ramp shots to charge the timedrive and any miss that bounces off the side of the ramps can be dangerous, especially if it puts the ball in a fast horizontal motion.

[Anonymous No.4590645]

>>4589920
>Capt. Fantastic and The Brown Dirt Cowboy
This one's new to me. I didn't know Elton John had a pinball table.

[Anonymous No.4590986]

>>4581423
for what purpose?

[Anonymous No.4591057]

>>4590645
It's one of the most popular EM games, and a lot of fun, too. The big pinball show I go has it next to Bally's other "Tommy"-based game, Wizard.

[Anonymous No.4591678]

>>4589727
Dude, same. When/if I ever get a pinball machine, I'd want my first to either be F-14 or Swords of Fury. Hell, any late-80's Williams would be fine for me. They're relatively affordable and I love them all.

[Anonymous No.4591825]

>>4591678
>When/if I ever get a pinball machine, I'd want my first to either be F-14 or Swords of Fury.
Is Cyclone your 3rd pick because that's exactly how my collection has turned out. I have wall space for one more pin but not sure what I want yet.

[Anonymous No.4591862]

>>4590645
>I didn't know Elton John had a pinball table.
how could you not? surely you've heard of a little film and accompanying track entitled "pinball wizard"?

>>4591057
love that era of pin, i'd love a dolly parton table.

[Anonymous No.4591864]

>>4590476
well i hit my brusa target of 1 bill so maybe now i'll go spend some more solid time with timeshock ultra, it's so daunting though with all those modes i mean christ my pbs on brusa and fj are hr long games already.

[Anonymous No.4591865]

>>4591825
>I have wall space for one more pin but not sure what I want yet.

Helium Tank by save me from retinal cancer. You would have to pay me to take that /mlp/ monstrosity

[Anonymous No.4591867]

>>4591864
mean to add*

[Anonymous No.4591874]

>>4591825
>Is Cyclone your 3rd pick
Nah, I'm actually not a big fan of Cyclone. It'd probably be Pinbot. Or maybe Grand Lizard. I don't know, it's too hard to narrow it down at that point.

[Anonymous No.4591905]

>>4591865
>Helium Tank by save me from retinal cancer. You would have to pay me to take that /mlp/ monstrosity

[Anonymous No.4592432]

>>4591905
STOP PUTTING COLOR LEDS IN YOUR GAMES

[Anonymous No.4592630]

>>4591864
>>4591867
Oh, yeah, Timeshock's calling, you know what to do.
The daunting factor goes down quickly once get the basic hang of the ruleset.

Meant to add pics of my scores, but of course I had all my best ones on my previous machine and the only one worth any kind of showing on my current PP installs is this 1 billion+ on the classic Timeshock. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.4592636]

>>4591862
You're in luck, although it's a solid state game.

[Anonymous No.4592863]

>>4592636
no silly, i meant i'd love to have one because i know it exisrts, im not a dolly fan or anything just love the table and the little music notes on the drop targets.

>>4592630
yeah, getting through all the time zones is nuts.

[Anonymous No.4593250]

>>4581423
That's fucking sick. It looks amazing.

[Anonymous No.4593318]

>>4582631
Hunfag here, daily reminder that our government tried to shut down the pinball museum, cause apparently a bunch of pinball machines set to free play are considered gambling.

[Anonymous No.4593487]

>>4592432
Seeing as only Cyclone has them, he probably bought it that way and just never changed them.

[Anonymous No.4593539]

>>4584768
Agreed

[Anonymous No.4594230]

Someone please help me, there's a pinball game I don't remember the name of and it's driving me insane.

I played it on PC in early 00s. It was fully 3D rendered with a dynamic camera and the table I remember had a jungle/volcano theme. There was an announcer too. When you got your ball in a volcano, he yelled "it's gonna blow" and things like that.

[Anonymous No.4594610]

What's your guys take on pachinko

[Anonymous No.4594683]

>>4594610
Not a game. Nip slot machine fun for a diversion but nothing more.

[Anonymous No.4594689]

>>4584768
yeah

[Anonymous No.4594718]

>>4594610
Pachinko is a straight-up gambling device.

[Anonymous No.4594748]

>>4584768

[Anonymous No.4595421]

>>4594748
Woah

[Anonymous No.4596906]

>>4581423
Looks good

[Anonymous No.4597087]

Where do you all play at? Pocketeer billiards in Buffalo for me.

[Anonymous No.4597712]

>>4597087
Pinball Gallery in Malvern

[Anonymous No.4598235]

Anyone have a chance to play Houdini yet? I'm always interested to see games from new manufacturers.

[Anonymous No.4598925]

>>4597087
Pacific Pinball Museum near San Francisco, in Alameda.

>>4594748
>>4584768

[Anonymous No.4598930]

>>4593318
You should probably call yourself a Hungfag or Hungafag, since Hun used to be a name for a German.

[Anonymous No.4599512]

>>4598925
>"I can... speak"
>"O H * N O"

[Anonymous No.4600621]

What video games have real-life pinball cameos in them?
Silent Hill prominently features Medieval Madness in the starting cafe.
Manhunt has a very poorly disguised Sharkey's Shootout.

[Anonymous No.4602926]

>>4599512
sensible chuckle everytime

[Anonymous No.4604609]

I was dicking around trying to find obscure digital pinball games when I stumbled on Little Wing Pinball. These are really fun from what I've played, but it's now impossible to buy them since the company is apparently MIA. You can still download the demos and if someone had access to keys or a keygen, you could get the full versions from here. Anyone happen to know more? I kinda want to really dig my teeth into these.

http://www.littlewingpinball.com/doc/en/downloads/index.html

[Anonymous No.4604803]

I hate that these can't be bought anymore, I'd totally pay up. The physics are surprisingly good and the music and layouts are pretty enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.4604815]

>60 second demo time
Have fucking mercy...

[Anonymous No.4604897]

Just played at a pinball league for the first time. Came in 2nd in one game. Learned a lot, now I know what to practice.

[Anonymous No.4605360]

>>4604609
>>4604803
>>4604815
I used to have cracks for all of them up until Monster Fair, but after I got a new computer and tried to look for them again, I couldn't find them. You might be able to if you search for them. It really does blow that they've completely left the PC full versions for dead.

[Anonymous No.4606025]

>>4605360
Damnit. So close. Thanks for checking though. I so badly want to play all of these and I haven't had a shred of luck finding cracks. Like I said, I'd totally pay up if these guys would have their friggen store open.

[Anonymous No.4606108]

>Tfw I will never win the championship in 3D ultra pinball Nascar

[Anonymous No.4606112]

>>4594230
3D ultra pinball the lost continent

[Anonymous No.4606668]

I think it would be cool to make another Pinball2000 game, like Revenge from Mars or Star Wars Episode 1. Maybe not. I don't know, it might be cool.

[Anonymous No.4606709]

>>4606025
You can grab the Mac versions, but you're going to have to set up an emulator to run them. Or own an actual Mac capable of running this shit. http://macintoshgarden.org/author/littlewing

[Anonymous No.4607168]

>>4604897
Why are lewd flipper gags the best?

[Anonymous No.4607317]

>>4606668
>think it would be cool to make another Pinball2000 game
they all suck though.

>>4606025
i actually bought a couple of them years ago but since lost that hardrive. I'll have a little search around online shortly for complete versions though.

[Anonymous No.4607502]

>>4606668
It was an interesting idea, but the time for that has passed. Modern pins with LCD screens work far better.

[Anonymous No.4608448]

>>4607502
>>4607317
Maybe we'll try again in 2099.

[Anonymous No.4608469]

>>4607168

Because puberty isn't over for you yet. Why are you posting on an 18+ site?

[Anonymous No.4608970]

>>4606709
Hey this is a great little start. Also I had no idea they made a version of Eight Ball Deluxe. I played the shit out of that in my local pinball league.

>>4607317
Good luck and god speed. I'm thankful for your efforts.

[Anonymous No.4609580]

Been a few years since I actually played Pinball (I used to play every night). Saw this machine while waiting for my movie and gave it a try.

It's either the absolute worst table I've ever played or is neglected as fuck.

Objective:
>Nothing really fun, all the challenges are dull. Sound design was garbage.
>Ring area at the top has these weird bar flippers that make an annoying as fuck sound whenever you flip. Even at max volume the audio cant be heard over CLACK CLACK CLACK
>The only decent way to score is to use the top flippers to get the ball into the hole at the top. Flippers are weird as fuck (They are just lengthwise bars that push) and you cant see anything up there
>Seems like it was designed to send the ball out of reach of the flippers very often. I'd say I had to shove one in four times to keep the ball in play

Technical:
>Ball got stuck coming out of the ring (Where the guy is pictured with his hands out at the top). Machine tried to fix it but couldn't. Ended up having to jerk the machine so hard I tripped the tilt. This happened for that entire credit
>Speaking of tilt you need to fucking tackle this table to cause a tilt. I gave it some hard shoves and only got a warning. I was afraid the shitty plastic legs would break under it
>Entrance skill shots are worth nothing and are so much worse points/setup wise to sending the ball to the back it's not even funny

[Anonymous No.4609592]

>>4609580
I was playing this a week ago and trying to figure out what I thought of it overall. I don't think it's that bad, but it's probably the weakest of the post-AC/DC Stern games. The layout isn't very fun and none of the modes or scoring features really grab my attention like Metallica/Star Trek/Star Wars etc. do. The sound design is indeed miserable. The only speech clip with any oomph to it is the "Welcome to Wrestlemania!" opening line. The theme songs for the different wrestlers are nice, but the music is very low on my machine.

I haven't made it too far into the later modes, so I'll have to go back and play it some more.

[Anonymous No.4609618]

On a scale of 1 to 10, how shitty is your average Visual Pinball recreation?

[Anonymous No.4609656]

>>4609580
The movie theater that I go to has a Stern Rolling Stones pin that is in terrible shape. I can't believe that anybody would ever leave a game in that condition on route. All the lights are out, the Mick Jagger target is broken in half so all that's left is his legs and the flippers are weak as fuck. My brother has one and while it's not my favorite game I know it's better than what's on site.

[Anonymous No.4609660]

>>4609580
>It's either the absolute worst table I've ever played
I played one myself at an arcade on the coast here in mint condition and i to thought it was fucking junk, boring as fuck, terrible design and a complete piece of shit.

>>4609656
unfortunately nobody wants to keep machines up to scratch because they require regular maintenance on top of stern has bollocks build quality.

>>4608970
i found a torrent with 7 of littlewings games but can't get no seeds, a couple broken links and their facebook group which looks still active so imma pm them on there for info on getting pc ones.

[Anonymous No.4610582]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8iUCpALEa8

Is there any pin with more theme integration?

[Anonymous No.4610753]

>>4584768
I played TNA for the first time today and wow. I was already buying one but I can't believe how amazing it actually is. The wait for mine is going to be terrible.

[Anonymous No.4611210]

>>4609580
It ain't got shit on Data East's Royal Rumble. I fucking love that game.

>>4609660
I can't thank you enough for this.

[Anonymous No.4611394]

This is my 1980 Williams Firepower. It really is a fun as hell table with a terrific rule set.

I have all new boards in there, including a Rottendog MPU327 and Rottendog power supply, along with a Swemmer sound board. The table has been waxed, and I installed a protector over it. Ball slides BEAUTIFULLY now. All new LED's as well. I had to go with colored LEDs though, because my backglass has some open areas, and finding a new one in suitable shape is next to impossible. The LED's do help.

The only other thing I really want to do with it is maybe get a reflection-free playfield glass for it.

[Anonymous No.4611423]

>>4604609
Anon light Merlin Magic, given email and pw to full game.

May your ball last long pin brother.

BOB
672945168943170367753049

[Anonymous No.4611576]

>>4604609
>>4604803
>>4604815
I can't even find them to download anymore.

[Anonymous No.4611583]

>>4611210
You really need to get a monitor with a pivot function.

[Anonymous No.4611586]

>>4611394
It's fun, but I never really liked the playfield art on it.

[Anonymous No.4611595]

>>4611394
Firepower really is an excellent layout, but it's a shame that there's only one drop target. Would've been cool if the main 1-2-3 targets were drops.

[Anonymous No.4611669]

>>4611595
>drop target

Mine doesn't have any drops at all. I do know the really early ones had drop targets in place of the spring targets like mine have. If you have seen one with drops, it's either a retrofit, (they make kits), or it was a pretty early example.

[Anonymous No.4612004]

TNA brought back Inline Drop Targets. What other forgotten pinball game mechanic is going to be brought back?

Ex: Multiple bottom flippers.

[Anonymous No.4612008]

>>4612004
Does PotC's spinning disk count?

[Anonymous No.4612397]

>>4612008
Yes! Great point. Haven't seen spinning disks in a little while. There was that one on No Good Gofers.

[Anonymous No.4612565]

>>4612397
Well Tron Legacy had one but it's tucked in the back of the playfield, not smack dab in the center

[Anonymous No.4612649]

>>4583523
>too much RNG
Unskilled underage detected.

[Anonymous No.4612714]

>>4586207
>>4586707
The billion point shot puts you in a SEPARATE scoreboard. Stop qqing because you're not good enough to get on either scoreboard.

[Anonymous No.4612716]

>>4611423
Holy shit thanks!
Which games on there will this work for?
I think the name has to be in the form of an email address too

[Anonymous No.4612721]

>>4611576
http://www.littlewingpinball.com/doc/en/downloads/index.html

They're all right here my man. I think if we can find working email/keycodes, they just convert themselves to the full versions.

[Anonymous No.4612936]

>>4589375
That's now how it works. You could train muscle memory to be as good for reverse flippers, without weakening standard - just needs to be done in tandem. If you ever get the chance check out what those kids in the Rhythm game generals get up to with control scheme training.

[Anonymous No.4613013]

One thing about watching interviews with Pinball people is that they're really not good at salesmanship or dealing with press. Maybe they don't have to be, I don't know.

[Anonymous No.4613060]

>>4613013
By pinball people I mean the people who work for the manufacturers, of course.

[Anonymous No.4613130]

>>4611423
can you explain a bit better? the pin might be right but we need an email.

[Anonymous No.4613132]

>>4612008
>>4612397
Full Throttle has spinning disks for the motorcycle wheels.

[Anonymous No.4613216]

>>4612004
>TNA brought back Inline Drop Targets
Metallica isn't that old.

[Anonymous No.4613227]

>>4579553
What's the best pinball table released in the last 5 years?

[Anonymous No.4613719]

>>4613227
Dialed in

[Anonymous No.4613793]

>>4613227
TNA

[Anonymous No.4614085]

>>4613227
I still never get tired of playing Metallica. And I don't even care for the band.

[Anonymous No.4614964]

What's your favorite Steve Ritchie game? I was out tonight playing a lot of No Fear. It's a great, very balanced game, but I'm wondering if it's not as good as say, Terminator or Getaway because of its' atypical design (no jets, very few targets).

>>4613227
>>4613793
Seconding TNA. A lot of the Stern and Jersey Jack games are great, and have deeper rules, but the complete package of TNA and it's resemblance to an early solid state game made it an instant hit with me. It would be the first modern table I would choose to own if I weren't a poorfag.

[Anonymous No.4615462]

>>4588893
looks infuriating

[Anonymous No.4615575]

>>4586207
there are other methods to scoring above 1B points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NdLxVX10qs

may not be entirely possible irl but I walked up to a real BoP and looped that center ramp just as easily as the video game.

[Anonymous No.4616160]

>>4613130
email, hell no! that will unlock Crystal Caliburn. Download the demo and then use that info to unlock the full game.

[Anonymous No.4616162]

>>4611423
Download the Demo from littlewing.com and use that info to unlock the full game. NO, you don't need to entire an email, just put "BOB"

[Anonymous No.4616164]

>>4588893
The pinball hall of fame in Vegas had one, guy working there complained it broke down more then the real machines. Next year, it was gone.

[Anonymous No.4616468]

Picked up Pinball Arcade season 2. Cactus Canyon and Victory are so far my favorites of the bunch.

[Anonymous No.4616597]

How much do pinball machines on location cost in your area? In the Bay Area it's mostly $1.00, but I've heard it's cheaper other places.

[Anonymous No.4617005]

>>4616160
>that will unlock Crystal Caliburn.
ahhhh now im with you, i didn't know which game it was for.

[Anonymous No.4617028]

>>4611423
>it fucking works
BASED ANON!!
...you...you wouldn't happen to have any more would you?

[Anonymous No.4617173]

>>4616597
$0.50 unless it's a modern Stern or JJP, in which case it's $1.00

[Anonymous No.4617180]

>>4589920
where do you look these up? i want to see where Elvira and Mars Attacks are.

[Anonymous No.4617530]

>>4617180
IPDB

[Anonymous No.4618030]

>>4617180
>Mars Attacks
Why do people still make this mistake?

[Anonymous No.4619086]

Went to a Pin Golf night today. It was good, but they should have just explained how to complete the challenges on a piece of paper. Would have taken an extra couple of minutes to type up at max. A lot of hearsay was being thrown around. Not that it matters, there was no prize money I don't think.

[Anonymous No.4619532]

Was NBA Fastbreak the first game to do the sort of interactive "ball save" that we're seeing more of lately where you have to complete a challenge to get you ball back?

[Anonymous No.4619732]

I downloaded Pinball Arcade the other day and have been playing at least a couple hours every day on that Arabian Nights table. Holy shit it's so fun. I've gotten 31.7M so far.. to anyone that's played, how high have you scored? I've erased all local scores from the table. I want some new goal to climb to.

[Anonymous No.4619746]

>>4619732
It's been quite a while since I last played PA. How's the physics engine nowadays? Any changes for the better?

[Anonymous No.4619762]

>>4619746
no changes, still fucking junk.

>>4619732
it's shite, look at the leaderboards for competition opbviousaly.

[Anonymous No.4619809]

>>4619732
In the hundreds of millions. The bonus sounds are so satisfying

[Anonymous No.4619843]

>>4618030
Born this century.

[Anonymous No.4619939]

>>4619746
I tried playing Gladiators on it and the physics are shit. pic related, my current best score on the real deal.

[Anonymous No.4619956]

>>4619762
>>4619939
As a Pinball casual, what's wrong with the physics?

[Anonymous No.4620556]

>>4619956
>what's wrong with the physics?
what's right with the physics? no spin model on the ball, as weird hoover lanes programmed that makes the ball speed constant when then hit, no speed regulation, can't do hardly any flipper tricks, they implemented live catches in a horrible arbitrary way, it's just junk and nothing whatsoever like real life, pro pinball and pm5 vpx are the only ones that get close. Pinball arcade makes every game to easy which is why ppl like it i guess.

[Anonymous No.4620558]

>>4619956
also good luck doing cradle separations on pin arc.

[Anonymous No.4621185]

>>4620556
I can't wait to see how badly they fucked up Banzai Run.

[Anonymous No.4621231]

>>4619762
>it's shite, look at the leaderboards for competition opbviousaly.

their leaderboards need a wipe, multiple histories of tables posting to the wrong board for months.

[Anonymous No.4621241]

>>4621231
>wrong board for months.
especially ToTAN

[Anonymous No.4621275]

>>4619762
>no changes, still fucking junk.
Well fuck... :|

Pinball Arcade has to be among the most frustrating game I've ever come across. The honestly ridiculous table pack selling model notwithstanding, the premise couldn't be more awesome: tons of officially licensed, really well done (for the most part) recreations of real life pinball tables. What could go wrong? Yeah... the physics. When they're off, a pinball simulation just falls flat on its ass, with no redemption possible from any other features.
And what makes it even more infuriating is that the physics in PA aren't laughably off and so shitty it's funny. No, it's just decent enough that it's possible to almost start suspending your disbelief and getting into the simulation, and then you begin noticing all the flaws and quirks that then immediately start sticking out like a sore thumb and make the game unbearable.
No ball spin, balls are floaty af, nudging the table is complete ass on keyboard (Really? Keyboard nudging is full force all the time?! Like Timeshock didn't have variable force nudging in 1997...), no feeling of varied friction change anywhere (flipper handling kind of depends on that...), some ball movements seem scripted and happen the exact same way every time, etc.
Such a massive shame. I would REALLY love to like Pinball Arcade, but the physics just break the illusion. It would have been so glorious with the Pro Pinball physics model...

[Anonymous No.4621281]

>>4621275
this, farsiight have a history of poorly programmed shit aswell, if you think pinarcs bad try gottlieb collection on ps2, it's fucking miserable.

[Anonymous No.4621315]

>>4621281
Just checked out some Youtube footage. Ouch... doesn't look too good.

But what about pic related? That would high up on the list of potential picks for the worst pinball game physics ever. Such a colossal turd that it's almost funny.
You can imagine my disappointment as a kid, buying this dumpster fire of a game, having already been exposed to the Pro Pinball series before...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJYXWdiTiWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsFy1cAVhQ

[Anonymous No.4621413]

Wouldn't it be great if machines had a foot-pedal as a substitute for the action button? You could have the action button there as well, if people prefer it. I guess if you're going that far you could just have the action button on the side. A foot-pedal would still be cool though.

[Anonymous No.4621418]

>>4621275
Yeah, I was wondering if the Pinball Arcade had some scripted parts. Left ramp on Creature from the Black Lagoon, for example. I figured it was just my imagination. Has anyone experimented and figured out for sure?

[Anonymous No.4621425]

>>4621315
You ain't seen the tip of the shit, anon. The gbc version is the worst rendition of pinball I've ever played, and I'm a fucking junkie for this genre.

[Anonymous No.4621483]

>>4621315
yeah i had that to, fucking cruel to have spirit of 76 on it with moon ball physics.

[Anonymous No.4621492]

>>4621418
>Has anyone experimented and figured out for sure?
it does, on t-2 you can right lane round to held up left flipper nudge after bounce to make it catch in left lock rinse repeat. the easiest proof is just ball launch on tables that feed into letter slots like gorgar, it will do the exact same thing every time if you pull back full power or 50% etc.

[Anonymous No.4621521]

>>4620556
>pm5 vpx
You mean PM5 and VPX, right? Because I'm pretty sure PM5 is a special version of VP9 and VPX is different.

[Anonymous No.4621625]

>>4621425
Well, with the GBC version the devs had to work with severe hardware limitations, so I think that port deserves at least some credit for the effort, whereas the PC original had absolutely no excuses for its atrocious physics modeling and dreadful gameplay. But hey, at least the ball doesn't float around like it's on the moon.

[Anonymous No.4622156]

>>4621492
Well, that seems more like determinist physics than scripted. At least the full plunge is, I would expect the 50% plunges to vary slightly due to changes in power. Unless I misunderstand.

[Anonymous No.4622169]

Would Pinball 2000 have taken off if Williams had sold their pinball assets instead of just shutting down the pinball division like a bunch of petty assholes?

[Anonymous No.4622206]

>>4621625
But those limitations could have made for a more fun pinball experience. If you would have taken Revenge of the Gator or Pinball Dream's pinball engine and slapped a Haunted House or Spirit of 76 themed playfields into those, holy fuck that would be so damn fun. Instead we get something with physics so bad that even Jaleco's launch pinball game on the system feels way better. I mean, which of these two games look more fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtOSSeeVFb4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRfla8RKdSQ

[Anonymous No.4622354]

>Arcade Expo is going to have Magic Girl
Now I want to go just to say I played this train wreck.

[Anonymous No.4622357]

>>4622354
>ON DISPLAY
Well, nevermind. Though I guess simply looking at the game still gives you the full experience of it.

[Anonymous No.4622461]

>not having Epic Pinball, Balls of Steel, and 3D ultra Pinball Thrilldrive on your PC

[Anonymous No.4622473]

>>4622156
>I would expect the 50% plunges to vary slightly due to changes in power
yeah they dont, it's 100% predictable always was my point.

>>4622206
first time i've seen gbc version, hopefully the last.

[Anonymous No.4622513]

>>4621315
>>4622206
I really wish there were good simulations of pre-60s tables available. There are some good ones in Visual Pinball, but most of the best table makers focus on 70s-today. I particularly would love accurate recreations of the 30s flipperless games.

That being said, what's the oldest table you've played in person. For me, Knock Out from Gottlieb, 1950, at Silverball Museum in New Jersey. One of the tables in the aforementioned Microsoft game.

[Anonymous No.4622539]

>>4622513
>that flipper gap

[Anonymous No.4622542]

>>4622513
Humpty Dumpty at Pacific Pinball Museum in California. First machine (or table, if you prefer), with flippers. 1947.

[Anonymous No.4622564]

>>4622169
>Would Pinball 2000 have taken off if Williams had sold their pinball assets
No. Pinball was dying, and the Pinball 2000 gambit proved insufficient.

>instead of just shutting down the pinball division like a bunch of petty assholes?
I don't think you know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.4623295]

>>4622564
Not him, but why do think Williams didn't sell their pinball division? In The Battle to Save Pinball, the theory is presented that the management didn't sell it so that they wouldn't look bad to the shareholders/their boss if someone was able to use it to make a profit when they couldn't. But it's just a theory. Is there a more plausible explanation?

[Anonymous No.4623514]

>>4622564
Stern electronics sold their pinball division, assets & factory to Data East, who then sold them to Sega, who then sold then to Gary Stern who then founded Stern Pinball

Williams could have done the same thing, so why didn't they?

[Anonymous No.4623667]

>>4623514
Because it was a decade later and the market wasn't the same?

[Anonymous No.4623670]

>>4623667
>Because it was a decade later and the market wasn't the same?
SEGA sold their pinball itinerary at the exact same time, though

[Anonymous No.4623686]

playin some dirty harry on VPX

[Anonymous No.4623740]

What most physically red pilled pinball, m8s?

[Anonymous No.4624374]

>>4622513
Gottlieb's Airport from 1969

Played it at a neighbor's hunting cabin. Good times.

[Anonymous No.4624658]

>>4623740
What?

[Anonymous No.4624906]

>>4623740
PotC, according to this guy.

[Anonymous No.4626047]

Please, other than Heavy Metal Meltdown and Radical, what games do wicked sick riffs every time you make a shot? I live for this shit.

[Anonymous No.4626106]

Edgar Allan Poe pinball. A big bell, a swing pendulum you have to hit or hit behind, and a beating heart under glass like the creature in Creature from the Black Lagoon.

[Anonymous No.4626187]

>>4626106
>A big bell
AC/DC's swinging bell is probably my favorite bash toy from any game. It feels so satisfying to hit.

[Anonymous No.4626298]

>>4626047
Dirty harry has a pretty good guitar part in the music

[Anonymous No.4626453]

>>4624658
Pinball with best physic.

[Anonymous No.4627582]

I want a black knight 2000 so bad, but would that be a good machine to start with?

[Anonymous No.4627635]

>>4627582
Huh. I just played one at an arcade about a week ago. Kickass tunes, too.
It's too bad my pinball skills are weak shit, would've liked to hear the music longer.

[Anonymous No.4627698]

>>4627582
You will get bored of it extremely quickly if it's your only machine.

[Anonymous No.4627704]

>>4627582
>>4627698
They're fucking gremlins. I haven't even gotten my TNA yet but here I am buying a game this weekend

[Anonymous No.4629416]

Casuals don't care about points. Even during pac-mania, a lot of players didn't care about points.
What statistics do they care about? Kill-death ratios. The price of bitcoin. Box office grosses. Rotten Tomatoes scores. Views. Likes. Favorites. Subscribers. So make a pinball machine where one of those is the score and another is the secondary score, like ghosts in Ghostbusters or Gold in GoT. I don't know if other people enjoy thinking about this stuff; it's fun for me. I could see how other people might be annoyed by it.

[Anonymous No.4629530]

>>4589753
One of my favorites

[Anonymous No.4629558]

>>4629416
Scott should put a longest game time leaderboard on TNA

[Anonymous No.4631650]

Just tied for 3rd in a Pinball tournament (league night). Shit was so cash.