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With the recent announcement of Puyo X Tetris coming to PC, let's discuss Puyo, Tetris and other retro puzzle games.

Talk about which puzzlers you like playing the most, set up some netplay matches, post your best scores and so on ITT.

>> No.4570343

>>4570305
>Puyo X Tetris coming to PC
Yay, I can't wait until it sells horribly and the online community dies in less than a week.

>> No.4570346

>>4570343
puyos pretty popular though.

>> No.4570353

>>4570346
On PC?
Pffft HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.4570376

>>4570353
PuyoVS is pretty active...

>> No.4570389

Where were you when you realised that Tetris Battle Gaiden is the best?

>> No.4570443

>>4570353
We'll find out I guess.

>> No.4570480 [SPOILER] 
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finally

>> No.4570513

Should I go with buying Mega drive Puyo Puyo Tsu or the Super Famicom version with remix

>> No.4570520

>>4570513
genesis if u want the most arcade-accurate port, super if u want the most features

>> No.4570563

>>4570520
But good for multiplayer either way? Locally I mean, I want to practice so i can beat my blood related sibling at Puyo Puyo Tsu since they have played Mean Bean Machine which is essentially 1 and i am familiar with tsu's gameplay being different than the first one.

>> No.4570653

>>4570563
For 1v1 Megadrive is the way to go, but Remix lets you play with up to 4 people, and has a practice mode.

>> No.4570762

Panel De Pon > Puyo
Fight me

but panel de pon is dead and puyo tetris is pretty great

>> No.4570789

>>4570762
Are any of the PdP successors worth checking out?

>> No.4570793

>>4570480
GOO GOO

>> No.4570821
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>>4570305
Thank u for this thread OP I was trying to find a place to talk about Tetris

Can anyone give me any pointers for getting used to NES Tetris for the first time as a TGM player? It feels like all the pieces are suddenly covered in glue and I suck horrifically.

>> No.4570836

>>4570821
>It feels like all the pieces are suddenly covered in glue and I suck horrifically.
input delay maybe? are you emulating? pay attention to exactly how long it takes for a piece to respond when you press the button. even the slightest delay compared to what you were using before can have a huge effect, considering all the inputs that go together

>> No.4570852

>>4570836
No I don't think it's an input delay problem, even though I do play TGM in an arcade

There's a radical difference between the two games in that TGM gives you a split second to slide pieces after they land, and NES Tetris doesn't, at all. I just didn't realize how impossible that change would be to get used to.

>> No.4570869

>>4570852
I remember the same thing being in Tetris DS. you could literally touch the ground then keep moving aroudn for almost a second before it locks in place. it's way harder without it.

>> No.4570895

>>4570869
Yup that's basically what I'm dealing with now

>> No.4570926

>>4570789
To my knowledge
Tetris Attack is great
Pokemon Puzzle League is a straight improvement in features, content, and performance (but I like Yoshi)
Didn't play gamecube, but I think it was mostly a pretty port of the original
Planet is good but no VS AI
Didn't play Animal Crossing New Leaf but im sure it's the worst, just cool to be in the game

>> No.4570934

>>4570926
Posting this made me realize it's been 11 years since the last Panel De Pon game came out (9 if you include express, but that was just a cheaper version of the other game)

>> No.4571153
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is there a go-to tetris game that the puzzle game scene uses? I primarily use that tetrisfriends website, that is, until I pick up puyo puyo tetris. I should just play nes tetris exclusively, shouldn't I?

>> No.4571164

>>4571153
everyone either plays puyo puyo tetris or tetris friends in terms of multiplayer

>> No.4571165

>>4571153
Nah, because nestris plays nothing like modern tetris which is all about SRS exploiting.

You're better off starting with tetris ds and then stepping up to TGM3.

>> No.4571193

>>4571153
Yeah, NES Tetris is the most popular for the competitive scene anyways, and generally considered the most "high skill".

I personally like TGM a lot more, but it's a little less popular, and furthermore very hard to find arcade cabs and emulators don't run very well.

Definitely get into one of the two though (NES or TGM); most other versions are considered pretty casual among serious players anyways

>> No.4571195

>>4571165
>>4571153
Also, I don't think it's a good idea to start with TGM3 if that's the route you want to take. Starting with 1 gives you a much better foundation.

>> No.4571232

>>4571195
I didn't say start with TGM3, I said advance to that after you've played Tetris DS for a while (a modern-feeling Tetris but pretty easy for beginners).

>> No.4571241

>>4571232
why not play the first 2 TGM games first?

3 is just weird and hard

>> No.4571367

>>4571193
>NES Tetris
>competitive scene
Wait what? I knew that later iterations of tetris like Grand Master were popular for tournaments but I never heard about the NES version being used for it. Is it a more recent phenomenon?

>>4570305
Does anyone still play Wario's Woods and if so, are some of you willing to do online multiplayer through Snes9x? I consider myself a great WW player but I wanna know if others are just as good, if not better than me.

>> No.4571379

>>4571367
holy shit dude you have an entire world to discover

the NES Tetris world championships are WAY more entertaining to watch than they have the right to be. Please watch all of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdfRQjb5o9k

>> No.4571386

>>4571379
BOOM TETRIS FOR JEFF
other than the meme I find that boring and casual as fuck

>> No.4571394

>>4571386
I don't know how any reasonable person could ever think that

Even my brother, who doesn't actually care about Tetris at all, was pretty captivated by watching these tournaments. It's exciting as fuck for what it is

>> No.4571450

>>4571379
But why NES tetris?

>> No.4571456

>>4571450
I think because it's the most accessible version with VS that doesn't have the ability to hold a piece in reserve or let you move pieces after they land or any other extra features other versions added

>> No.4571457

>>4571394
The game itself is just boring and even more boring to watch.

>> No.4571708

>>4570821
Think about Shirase at level 1200; the gravity is 20G and there's 8F of lock delay, meaning you have a total of 8 frames to manipulate the piece. Obviously this is really fast, but the point is that 8 frames of lock delay is actually still much higher than the lock delay will ever be in NES Tetris.

This is a lot of words to say that the portion of the lifetime of the piece that you have control over is completely opposite. In TGM, you generally have no time in the air and you control the piece by sliding it along the stack. In NES Tetris, you have no almost no control once the piece lands so you have to deal with everything while it's still in the air.
Sub-20G TGM and NES Tetris is actually pretty similar, but 20G/pyramid stacking is extremely suboptimal in NES Tetris because it isn't great for tetrises and it's designed to give you more lock delay/20G maneuverability, both of which are completely irrelevant in NES Tetris.

>>4570869
Tetris DS' rotation system allows you to reset lock delay by rotating the piece. NES Tetris and TGM do not; lock delay can only be reset by dropping the piece.

>>4571232
TGM 3 builds on completely different skills than Tetris DS unless you play world - and I wouldn't recommend playing world. If your ultimate goal is to play TGM 3, you should play a TGM game. The predecessors to the Arika rotation system (which includes NES Tetris and the Sega arcade game) will give you a decent understanding of how TGM 3 works but they won't get you used to any of the foundational skills of that game, like 20G stacking and... well, playing quickly.

>>4571241
I think this logic is good. Most TGM players do not recommend starting on TGM 3; it's a good candidate for the most difficult game ever made it and it's going to be very slow going if you start there because even clearing master requires you to be able to play at a high level.

I started on TGM 3. It took me almost two years to get 500 levels into shirase.

>> No.4571726

>>4571457
>and even more boring to watch.
because you're like a baby looking at algebra, it's simply beyond your low i.q shit brain to recognize what's so exhilarating and impressive about it. The nes tetris comps are intense as fuck to watch.

>> No.4571732

>>4571379
I think (competitive) NES Tetris is significantly more popular than TGM in the US. The only way you'd have any exposure to TGM is if you sought it out (or watched AGDQ I guess). It's also really hard and doesn't have any of the casual appeal of most Tetris games; for most bad players they would be lucky to get five minutes out of a TGM game. It doesn't really help that the most popular TGM game is 3, which actually accelerates you for doing well and consequently has the effect of speeding up your demise most of the time.

Both games have a very high skill cap, but the TGM series arguably has less to offer new players and is more difficult in the long run. The first game isn't all that challenging, but TAP and especially TI have big segments of the game that are inaccessible to people who have been playing the game for *years*. What proportion of longtime TI players have even seen an invisible credit roll, let alone cleared one?

NES Tetris is relatively forgiving and, yeah, most players will never get anywhere near a max out, but they'll probably get in the ballpark.

>>4571195
This sort of goes both ways though. A lot of people who started on TGM/TAP have a hard time getting muscle memory for hold. I generally agree with you, however.

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Where my Wario Woods niggas at?

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>>4571726
Dude it's tetris, it's nowhere near complex.

>> No.4572108

>>4572047
Tetris is... pretty complicated, especially the speed at which it's played in any competitive context. Like yeah, if you're playing at 0.1G in a permissive rotation system you're never going to die, but if you play Puyo Puyo against no one with only three colours it's gonna be pretty damn easy.

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>>4572108
>Tetris is... pretty complicated,
LOOOOOOOOOOOL

>> No.4572115

>tfw can't get the 200k rocket in GB Tetris
After around 100k it starts throwing me the worst pieces possible, what do

>> No.4572116

>>4572115
Who the fuck cares, kill yourself manchild

>> No.4572136

>>4572112
nice

>>4572115
This is sort of the main feature of GB Tetris. The whole game is based on mitigating bad luck. It just takes time and experience I guess.

If you're coming from other Tetris games, the biggest thing is that you have to stack low. Really, really low. The top quarter of the play area is pretty useless. I am not amazing at GB Tetris but I got a lot better at it when I stopped stacking past the top half on purpose. You don't have the same pressure to stack cleanly as you do in NES Tetris and your main concern is just not getting killed by the randomizer.

>> No.4572142

>>4572136
Just to add to this, if you're not really interested in mitigating luck you're probably better off just playing a different Tetris version because that's the distinguishing element of Tetris GB.

Having said that, I kind of like it. I play it when I'm on the can. Sometimes you get 500k, sometimes you get 100k.

>> No.4572154

Only played Super Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo. Is there any difference between this and Puyo Puyo? Seems like they're basically the same game.

>> No.4572175

>>4572038
>filename
That's actually a chain. I'm >>4571367 so let me know if you can play either the NES or SNES versions online with me or other WW players.

>> No.4572227

>>4572154
They're fairly different. SPF2T lets you essentially stick together as many of the same color as you want as long as you don't trigger it. In Puyo Puyo, putting four or more of the same together makes them instantly explode, so chains are about managing that as opposed to managing the respective crash gems. Building is completely different.

There are some other differences. Garbage is different in that it doesn't have a color and doesn't contribute to your combo when you break it. Puyo Puyo is also just generally a faster game.

They're in the same genre though and they're pretty closely related. If you like one, you should probably at least try the other.

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>>4571450
It's the most popular "competitive" Tetris game in the US

>>4571708
All of your advice is extremely solid, thanks dude. And yeah, I get the difference between NES and TGM, I'm just still not sure how to get used to it. "Play more" I guess is the universal tip.

>>4571726
This

>>4571732
I completely agree. I personally sought out TGM first *because* it was hard, but that's just the kind of person I am.

>>4572047
pic related

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>>4572370
Yeah, none of that advice was meant to be particularly mind-blowing, but it's essential to keep in mind that stacking like you do in TGM doesn't really work in NES.

For what it's worth, the original TGM isn't that hard. It's certainly more difficult than your average game but it's by far the easiest TGM game. Getting a GM in TGM is doable from nothing in around a year, I think. The gap between it and TAP is huge, and the gap between TAP and TI is even bigger.

TGM is a reasonable game for reasonable people. TAP is just a more demanding version of TGM that added hard drop so you don't have to play like a jabroni to play quickly. TI really just seems like it's out to get you for having the gall to enjoy it (pic related).

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>>4572370
Pic related. Tetris is gay ass nigga shit.

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>>4572762
I just play TGM1 so I'm a scrub I guess p:

>>4572764
pic related

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>>4572767
Pic related

>> No.4572787

>>4572767
It's not about being a scrub; TGM is certainly a high skill game and I'd never downplay the amount of practice it takes to get the GM. But the series' difficulty really goes off the rails. If you've never seen a TGM 3 GM game, you should really check it out. The requirements are ridiculous.

>> No.4572792

>>4572764
>>4572767
>>4572769
post more hands please
i like hands

>> No.4572794

Played Tetris Attack for years, there were times where I started dreaming of chaining blocks... good times

>> No.4572798

In TGM1, what am I supposed to do when I have an overhang? Do I have to soft drop and wait for the piece to fall? I'm coming from TAP so it feels really slow.

>> No.4572809
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4572809

My favorite Puzzle game.
I like the HD remix on Ps3

never got into the street fighter fighting games but I like puzzle fighter.
Not that i don't like fighting games in general.

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>>4572787
I have actually, it looks terrifying

I only play TGM1 because that's the only cab I have access to. If I get really good, I'll look into getting a home setup, though

>>4572792
pic

>>4572798
Yeah, just soft drop and tuck? No hard drop in TGM1

>> No.4572837

>>4572798
You have to soft drop. It feels slow because it is slow. If you're playing for time and not survival, avoid overhangs before level 500.

>>4572813
TI runs on PCs. It's a bit difficult to set up - it's notorious for producing accidental TASes, where people think they've gotten some incredible time or something but the game's internal clock is actually just slow, making the game significantly easier and the time completely wrong. I think it's worth it, however, unless you have some objection to pirating it. It's not an emulator, so once you get it working it actually runs quite well.

It is terrifying. I've been playing for about two years now and I am nowhere even close to the GM.

>> No.4572839

>>4572837
Yeah but I'd need an arcade controller of some sort. What would you recommend?

Also yeah... aren't there only something like 6 total people who've gotten GM in that game?

>> No.4573375

>tfw to low iq for puzzle games.
I used love watching my older sister play Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean machine. Too much of a brainlet to ever play puyo myself though. Its a shame because I like the character designs and stuff.

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Speaking of Tetris is Magical Tetris Challenge any good?

>> No.4573414

>>4572839
You don't, not for TI. It uses TypeX, which means you can bind the buttons to your keyboard or a joystick if you have one. If you google it you should be able to find it pre-packed with TypeX. If you get it and you're having difficulty getting it to work properly, post in this thread and I'll help. The main thing I would tell you is that you need to test if it's calibrated correctly, and the easiest way to do this is to actually play the game while having a stopwatch running and seeing if the ingame timer and the real game timer are in sync. If they're not, you need to fudge with the settings. There's a mod some people run that just moves their mouse cursor while the game is running to artificially slow the game down.

I have heard that under optimal setups there is one more frame of input lag on the PC than there is in the arcade, but I'm not sure I believe that myself. I've played a lot of TI on real hardware and on my PC and I can't tell the difference. TI also has a lot of input lag by default - there's five frames on native hardware - so I'm not sure 5F versus 6F really makes a difference.

Right now there are 6 GMs but someone has gotten GM in a TI clone, which is a bit easier than getting it on the real thing - the clones don't have the aforementioned input lag - but it's still pretty damn close. Outside of that guy I don't think anyone else is near a GM. There have been a few guys stuck at the rank below GM for a few years, but one of them has said that he doesn't believe he can do the invisible roll well enough to ever get GM so it's probably going to be awhile before we see another one.

Getting a GM in TI is very difficult. If it's not the hardest game ever made, it's pretty close. Despite being pretty popular in Japan and being based on an overwhelmingly popular game, it's only been beaten by six people.

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>> No.4573432

>>4573414
I think I might try to master TGM1 before I try and figure all that out

I do think I'd want to play with a joystick as opposed to on keyboard, though

>> No.4573434 [DELETED] 

>>4573375
>tfw to low iq

Yeah, it does appear to be the case :/

>> No.4573448

>>4573420
I find this color scheme very bothersome.

>>4573432
Depending on what you mean by "master" I'd say that's probably a fair goal. If you mean "get GM in master" then that'll put you in a decent position if you go onto TAP or TI. I will say though that getting a GM in TGM is very dependent on working around the lack of hard drop, which completely ceases to be a thing in TAP or TI. I play a lot of TGM and TI because they're completely different games, despite having a lot of mechanics in common. You might want to try TI just to see if you like the feeling of having hold, three piece previews and hard drop (...this is one of those situations where it sounds like TI is helping you by making the game easier, but it's actually just giving you more tools as an excuse to make the requirements more absurd). Also, be sure to play on classic. World is weird.

The conventional wisdom is that the joystick may have an advantage for sub-20G play whereas the keyboard may have an advantage for 20G play. The most recent non-Japanese player to get a Shirase S13 (Nick) did it on a keyboard. However, if you want to play on a joystick, it's fairly trivial to get a fight stick or whatever to work on PC with TI (or TGM/TAP, for that matter).

>> No.4573463

>>4573448
I've only really played versions of Tetris that don't have a hold option, so when I'm given one I basically never use it...

Also I would just get a fight stick, but aren't the joysticks usually 8 direction? that may be a problem

>> No.4573507

>>4573463
A sanwa eight way can be converted into a four way by rotating the gate ninety degrees. It's very simple.

TGM 3 has been played at a very high level without hold, but only by literally one person and it was Shirase, not Master. Getting used to hold is definitely a hurdle, but in a game already flirting with impossible you are not going to want to handicap yourself.

>> No.4573664

>>4573398
yes it's fucking great
honestly my favorite Tetris game.
I'm sure it doesn't matter to you but I heard it was made by the director of BotW back when he worked at Capcom.

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Been playing the PS4 port of Magical Drop II lately, been taking over my Tetris craving as of late.

>> No.4574805

>>4573398
Does this emulate well? I've only played The New Tetris on N64, never this one
I assume New has significantly better music, just cause it's amazing

>> No.4574828

I guess you guys have watched Gaming Histornian's The Story of Tetris, right? It was epic.

>> No.4574885

>>4572809
i replied to this post. the reply is no longer here.
it wasn't off topic or against the rules.

what the fuck happened?

>> No.4575178

Why didn't they officially bring Puyo Puyo Tsun for N64 as is instead doing a half-baked Kirby reskin? Man, Mean bean Machine was a way better modification...

>> No.4575268

>>4574885
BUMP

>> No.4575302

>>4574828
I did, it reminded me of the From Russia With Love documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhwNTo_Yr3k

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>>4575178
Kirby's Avalanche is worth it just for Kirby being an asshole

>> No.4575350

>>4574828
It wasn't a buzzword, it was informative. Get it right.

>> No.4575937

>>4570305
columns, Dr mario, or Puyo Puyo?

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>>4575348
That's nearly Pooh Bear tier dickery.

>> No.4576108

>>4570821
Late reply but you NEED to learn how the DAS works. It can be abused and it's almost necessary to play at high speeds.

Here are the rules to remember:
>DAS begins to charge when you press and hold the direction key
>takes 16f to charge then the piece moves every 6f
>gets into a frozen state during the ARE (pause time before a piece spawn)
>is only properley reset when a direction key is pressed, not released, and not during ARE time because it is frozen
>gets charged instantly when moving a piece against a wall or the stack (probably implemented to make filling overhangs easier but can be abused the shit out of)

Knowing this, you can charge up DAS once and reuse the charge every piece by only pressing the direction you want during the ARE (so it is never reset) and releasing it when it's at the right place over the stack. (a.k.a. skillstop)
Now, this is pretty difficult to pull off with 100% consistency, that's why you make use of the "instant DAS against a wall" trick whenever you lose your charge. When that isn't possible, you will lose a lot of your mobility, keep mental track of the DAS state so you can react to it when that happens.
This can take a while to learn a pull off well but when you do, it won't feel like it's all covered in glue anymore. Hope my explanations were clear enough.

Good luck!

>> No.4576253

>>4575937
Columns > Puyo > Doc

>> No.4576396

>>4573420
Nyet was made by the german devil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG0ANGRwSl8

>> No.4576642

>>4574779
MD3 is superior but i like the challenge mode in MD2

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>>4576642
Money Puzzle Exchanger > any Magical Drop

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>>4578621
My absolute nigga. Money Idol Exchanger and Puyo Puyo Tsuu are my favorite puzzlers. So many hours spent exchanging yen.

>> No.4580578

>>4572116
throwing balls while sat in the ball pit

>> No.4581080

So the puyo forums will be shut down in a few weeks.

https://puyonexus.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3582

Where am I gonna go to find out about new PuyoVS mods?

>> No.4581091

>>4581080
why are they shutting down anyway?

>> No.4581107

>>4576642
I play MD3 on MAME and I have to say I also enjoy it more than 2. However 3 isnt on PS4 yet lol

>> No.4582471

>>4581091
Nobody uses forums anymore, basically. It's all Twitter and Discord and shit now.

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FIYA BRESSU

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>>4581080
>So the puyo forums will be shut down in a few weeks.
Well shit, I better get to downloading fucking everything from there then because that shit is just gonna end up lost to the internet sands of time.

>> No.4583679

>>4572809
This is now on mobile. called "Puzzle Fighter"
a mobile version of the retro game.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.capcom.smash.retail

>> No.4583684 [DELETED] 

>>4583669
>Arle in OK
But it's freezing af here right now. :x

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>>4583684
That was just the filename when I saved that image a year ago.

>> No.4583820
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>>4583750
Oh, okay.

>> No.4583848

>>4570353
Another retard, I can't comprehend how people will think it won't sell, there's a ton of puzzle games that do.

>> No.4584490

Are there anything more active places to play games like md3 and money puzzle exchanger than fightcade?

>> No.4584765
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>>4584490
You could try meeting some players on mamehub, which supports much more games than fightcade.

http://10ghost.net/MAMEHubDownloads/MAMEHub_4.0.zip

>> No.4584830
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Why did they not include a Japanese audio option for the Switch/PS4 releases again?

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>>4584830
We can only speculate, but why bother now when the PC release is gonna have both? You can finally have your moonspeak again; you could even mod a few characters back into English, or maybe by some miracle they'll allow dual audio options for each individual character like in recent Capcom fighting games.

>> No.4586230

>>4583848
Will this be the first actually good puzzle game on Steam?

>> No.4587446

Is it just me or does TGM2 feel sluggish as fuck on FBA? It's as if every tetromino felt made out of lead or something.

>> No.4587454

>>4587446
It might be just you if it feels any worse than the original. If it feels worse than TI something very irregular is happening since TI even under the best of conditions has significantly more input lag than TAP.

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Endless quarters spent on Puzzle Bobble 4 cabinet at Pizza Hut.

Then got game for Christmas.

Endless hours spent playing Puzzle Bobble 4 at home.

>> No.4587476

>>4587454
Eh, it's probably me being dumb and not being too used to the game physics in themselves, since I'm an Atari Tetris veteran and I haven't touched any other version in years (except maype Puyo Puyo Tetris for a while).
I'll go be a curmudgeon somewhere else and hug my Brad Fuller dakimakura. Bahumbug.

>> No.4587512

>>4587476
There was a controversy in the TGM community a few years ago about the fact that TAP runs at 61 FPS and MAME was handling this incorrectly, which rendered all emulated TAP records up until that point mostly meaningless. It's fixed in MAME now, but it may very well still be broken in FBA.

...Having said that, this had a small impact on the way the actual game ran and mostly only affected the integrity of the timer.

>> No.4588383

fly awayee

>> No.4588397

>>4587472
>not opening your own pizza hut franchise store with a puzzle bobble 4 cabinet
truly a pleb

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>tfw to brainlet too build a chain effectively on the second/third floors

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>>4586230
Sorry?
(also, we need a new name for a genre. This IS a puzzle game, but it's nothing like tetris or puyo or whatever. You actually solve puzzle, have to think logically)

>> No.4589561

>>4588670
DROD is the best puzzle game I’ve ever played. The mechanics allow for very deep puzzling. It’s definitely a completely different kind of puzzle game than the ones being discussed in this thread so far.

>> No.4590481

bump

>> No.4590539

>>4588670
oh plz
what you gonna call it now
action puzzle?
line clearers? vertical dropping match 3 games?

>> No.4591307

Does Diner Dash count as a puzzle game?

>> No.4592547

>>4588670
Playing games with static puzzles is boring once you know the solutions. Games such as Tetris and Puyo Pop are much more interesting and replayable.

>> No.4594351

Bump

>> No.4595751
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>Snood is apparently the most popular puzzle game in all of existence
>never ever ever heard of it ever in all my life until LGR's video about it

It's fucking Puzzle Bobble, what the fuck's supposedly so good about it?

>> No.4596154

>>4595751
>Snood is apparently the most popular puzzle game in all of existence
I only knew of one person that ever played it -- my middleschool teacher a decade ago.

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witch pooyo wud u creampie?

>> No.4597101

>>4597093
Blue Puyo, maybe some good ol fashioned dicking'll take the blues away.

>> No.4598270

>>4581091
Because forums have declined in popularity over the years.

>> No.4598853
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Chaining is hard.

>> No.4599212 [DELETED] 

>>4598853
I demand sauce

>> No.4599254

>tfw you will never get over a 4chain in puyo

I still don't know how people get 15 chains

>> No.4599267

>>4590539
As far as I'm aware games like tetris are already being called action puzzlers so that doesn't sound weird at all desu

>> No.4599506

>>4570934
>>4570926
>>4570789
>>4570762
Any romhacks of pdep?

>> No.4599984

>>4588670
Someone should figure out how to procedurally generate DROD puzzles so we can turn it into one of these tank-based puzzle games.

Then make Tetris vs Puyo vs DROD

>> No.4601343

What;'s the best Deadly Rooms of Death? i want to play one and I might as well do the best one first.

>> No.4601492

>>4601343
Can’t really go wrong with any of them but for a beginner to the series I would suggest Journey to Rooted Hold as a good introduction to the series. If you like the game you can follow up with it’s harder sequels, or go back and play the original King Dugan’s Dungeon.

>> No.4601535

>>4599506
who made panel de pon series?

>> No.4602478

>>4599254
You just need to practice, anon. you just need to memorize patterns.

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The puzzle game everyone should be playing in current mame = Mushihimetama, it impresses me to no end how much depth they managed with essentially a one button game from the time element to the power shot mechanics the perfect gap hit bonuses and the boss fights.

>> No.4603748

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkVyZ2xrQL8

>ywn beat mike's score