Stupidity

[Anonymous No.4556071]

Just as the title says, absolutely stupid things you've seen people post here on /vr/.

>The Amiga has no games!
>flashcarts kill consoles!
>CD-R's kill consoles!
>all the SNES/PSX has is JRPGs!
>MAME is too complex to use!
>accuracy doesn't matter in emulation!
>if you haven't played X in Y way, you haven't really beaten the game!
>emulation is bad!
>emulation is just as good as real hardware!
>they are called belt-scrollers!

What's the dumbest shit you've seen posted here?

[Anonymous No.4556095]

>>4556071
>>if you haven't played X in Y way, you haven't really beaten the game!
Okay so you're saying playing a game in god mode with infinite health cheats counts as beating the game. Great logic there, redditor soyboy retard.

[Sinistar No.4556105]

>>4556071

[Anonymous No.4556107]

>>4556105
Hey look another namefag. Filtered.

[Anonymous No.4556108]

>>4556095
>spews memes, purposely misconstrues what is said
So you're one of the idiots who spews "If you didn't play it at the arcade and 1CC it, you didn't actually beat it" and other assorted shit like that. Keep being triggered, it won't make you any more intelligent.

[Anonymous No.4556109]

>>4556071
>>The Amiga has no games!
The Amiga has lots of games, and most of them suck. Nice artwork and music, though.
>>4556071
>>CD-R's kill consoles!
Lasers will wear out faster, it's a fact. There's a limited supply of replacements, also a fact.
>>4556071
>>accuracy doesn't matter in emulation!
Accuracy matters, to a point. When you reach Higan levels, you're just being an autist.

Dumb shit I've seen here includes idiots that think FPGAs are in any way comparable to shoddy emulation running on a raspi, and MAME's insane over-bloating on non-arcade crap isn't a big deal.

[Anonymous No.4556113]

>>4556108
>"If you didn't play it at the arcade and 1CC it, you didn't actually beat it"
But that's correct you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.4556124]

>>4556108
>comparing a child who wasted 60 lives to get through the third boss to a veteran player who can confidently and consistently beat the game in 1 credit

[Anonymous No.4556178]

>>4556124
Continues killed arcade games. Sure, it seemed like a good idea at the time. More money in the machines, players are happier because they can see the whole game. But then shit started to go downhill once players were done feeding their way through and then never played the game again. And all these years later, the decision still haunts us in the form of creditfeeding in emulators. At least they could have made no (or limited) continues the default operator settings. But nope. Oh well, that's just how it is.

[Anonymous No.4556182]

>>4556178
Arcades were never good business model, period. Good riddance.

[Anonymous No.4556216]

>>4556182
>try a game for a dollar or less to see if you like it.
>buy a game for 60USD with no way to know if you'll like it.

Wonder which one is the better model.

[Anonymous No.4556219]

>>4556216
well now that we have the internet...

[Anonymous No.4556223]

>>4556216
>play game for a dollar for 30 seconds and get your ass raped
>never play again
>buy multiple games for 60 dollars
>enjoy yourself forever with fair reasonable challenges instead of mindless button mashing and credit feeding

[Anonymous No.4556225]

>>4556182
You were't there during the golden age. I was. You know what else wasn't in the golden age? Continues. Yep, play almost any 80's arcade game and it won't let you keep shoveling in quarters. You're going back to stage 1 every time.

[Anonymous No.4556286]

That games don't age well or poorly and deteriorate like a person.

[Karakasa-Obake !!bwTnifX4END No.4556302]

>>4556071

That's most of it. Also have heard:

>genesis music sounds like farts.
>SNES is just baby games
>It's easy to learn Japanese and only takes a month or two

[Anonymous No.4556309]

>Buying a copy of a game and keeping it is "killing" the hobby

Fuck off

[Anonymous No.4556317]

>>4556071
>What's the dumbest thing you've seen here
Your OP would be a strong contender

[Anonymous No.4556367]

>>4556071
Console warring in general. As far as the usual popular game consoles go, it's absolutely asinine to say they have no games, or that all the games on it are shit. Prime example being SNES and Genesis. Saying that either of them have no good games just means to me that you haven't bothered to look into the library of whichever you're bashing and only have knowledge of surface level games or metaljesus-tier "hidden gems". Or you're just shitposting because /vr/ is a slow and easily baited board.

TL;DR - the idort way is the only way.

[Anonymous No.4556396]

>>4556223
>mindless button mashing and credit feeding

Except this is a personal problem, nothing to do with the game.

[Anonymous No.4556480]

>>4556113
Depends on the game

[Anonymous No.4556482]

>>4556219
And yet people still preorder total garbage despite all the warning signs. Really makes you think, huh?

[Anonymous No.4556515]

>>4556482
Like those losers who pre-ordered Paprium and still haven't received the finished game or even saw a gameplay video that's not a highly edited short trailer.

[Anonymous No.4556597]

>>4556071
the stupidest thing i've seen on /vr/ is the current influx of /v/-tier wojack memes and "muh soy"
seriously, go and stay go

[Anonymous No.4556679]

>>4556071
Well, OP, if you infinitely credit feed a game that doesn't send you back to a checkpoint, use cheats and abuse save states can you really say you've beaten a game? You could say you had fun personally with it, but not really beaten it.
The belt scroller thingy is to distinguish 8-way beat'em ups from the others I guess.
Other than that, spot on. Here's mine:

>Donkey Kong Country is bad because it has too much ludonarrative dissonance: the motivation to get the bananas is weak and egotistical, it feels like you're the bad guy.

>>4556178
Yes, the average home gamer didn't understand how to play them when playing 1:1 ports or emulation and they began to collectively thought they were worthless outdated games.
>>4556182
As a business model, even if not perfect, it was probably the best. The average arcade game is MUCH better than in home systems. It was the only place where casual "games" weren't the trend: the fact that games had to satisfy both operators (by being hard and brief) and players (by being fun and fair) and the stiff competition for space just meant that games had to be tight as fuck. You can try a game for 1 coin and see it was crap, or even watch others play it. Only quality stuff was even allowed to survive with few exceptions.
The problems arcade games had were preservation (I like being able to play games for years, you know) and, in the long run, letting people credit feed gave the games a bad image to less informed players.
The best model in theory are heavily arcade inspired home games. However, home gaming's model doesn't push for these games and thus when arcades died they also began to disappear on home systems.
>>4556286
The thing is, game aging is true in theory, and when you compare games from '78 to '98 you can clearly see it. However, modern gaming (say '98-'18) has supposed such a decline in game design that saying games have aged since is a disservice, since standards have morphed / lowered, you can't even compare the games.

[Anonymous No.4556790]

>>4556113
And to clarify, if you don't 1CC on your first try, it doesn't count. If you can't beat a game on that first quarter, you're just credit feeding and you're the cancer that's ruining this hobby.

[Anonymous No.4556809]

>>4556790
You know you're on /vr/ when you can't tell if this is a shitpost or serious

[Anonymous No.4556820]

>>4556071
>Metroidvania
It's Metroidlike.

[Anonymous No.4556825]

>>4556124
>a veteran player who can confidently and consistently beat the game in 1 credit
After said veteran already blew through hundreds to get to that point sure, but unlike the “””veteran””” the kid wasn’t autistic enough to keep playing the same game daily for years and decided having a life beyond a dying niche hobby was a more worthy investment of their time and money.

[Anonymous No.4556834]

>>4556825
>1cc
>daily for years
/vr/ is an absolute disgrace

[Anonymous No.4556835]

>>4556071
I don't know how to setup MAME though.

[Anonymous No.4556851]

I actually don't get mame. all the rom dumps don't work with the latest version, so you have to get a completely new set of roms everytime you update mame? easier to just emulate the PSX/Saturn port of the arcade game

[Anonymous No.4556853]

>>4556216
>he doesn’t know about rentals
>he doesn’t know about returns
>he doesn’t know about the second hand market
>he doesn’t know about simply borrowing and lending games among friends
On the other hand your average arcadefag is probably too much of a sperg to interact with store clerks or have friends in the first place, so all of those options are clearly non-starters for you sad fucks.
>>4556482
And yet people still credit fed shitty arcade games despite the warning signs. Really makes you- oh no, it STILL probably doesn’t.

Are arcadefags just the stupidest lot on this board or what? They seem to be getting worse as of late, just competently detached from reality. I’m all for arcade game design but the simple fact is that as a business model it’s simply meant to eat quarters in a time when their main competition was staring at washing machines in a laundromat or reading the same old magazines laid out on a stained coffee table.

[Anonymous No.4556856]

>>4556853
>And yet people still credit fed shitty arcade games despite the warning signs
Rarely, the quality of the average arcade game is much higher than the trash that comes out nowadays. Either way this has nothing to do with what I've said. If anything it just proves that people don't spend their money wisely despite having all kinds of resources of information freely available to them, which is common sense.

[Anonymous No.4556863]

inb4 someone reposts the pictures where the guy hooked the red audio cord into the red video input

[Anonymous No.4556868]

>>4556105
tripfag

[Anonymous No.4556878]

>>4556809
It's clearly a shitpost.
>>4556825
You can play 1 coin a day, clear actually good games and have a life.
>>4556853
Arcades are much more social, what the hell. You had to go to a place with others playing, and there was competition, be it direct (versus) or indirect (scoring).

[Anonymous No.4556884]

>>4556853
The business model is what lead to arcade game design. The two are so deeply intertwined that respecting one without the other is just ignorance, wilful or not. You can hear the developers themselves describe how the various unique pressures that come with the format influenced their game design and lead to many different innovations, both big and small. The drop in popularity of the business model was most likely inevitable, but it's far more than just some kind of scheme to steal your money.

[Anonymous No.4556956]

>>4556071
The list is to long to post but one of the stupidest things I've seen posted on /vr/ today is this thread

[Anonymous No.4556963]

It's not the stupid thing I've seen here but I was baffled by an autist in a SaGa thread who had never ever played any single entry in the series yet was disregarding certain games for supposedly being casual friendly (IE RS2 having bug fixes that made some enemies weaker and others stronger), and that if you did beat the game that way you actually didn't beat it.

He was completely serious too, shitted on the thread until it reached bump limit.

[Anonymous No.4556968]

>>4556868
Newfag.

[Anonymous No.4556972]

crt's are heavy
crt's take up a lot of space
not liking atari

[Anonymous No.4556998]

>SNES is more powerful than Genesis because it has [insert enhancement chip here]

[Anonymous No.4557009]

>>4556972
>facts are dumb
The atari thing is subjective, but CRT's are heavy and are big.

[Anonymous No.4557023]

>>4557009
They are heavy only if you are a manlet

[Anonymous No.4557092]

>Dreamcast isn't retro

by virtue of being a Sega console, it's fucking retro

[Anonymous No.4557130]

>>4556884
Indeed, the business model is what shaped it in the first place. All I'm asking is that nowadays some devs still keep selling games inspired by what came out of the model but for home games. Like it happened back then, we got made for home games that were very arcade-like in design. This has almost died these days.

[Anonymous No.4557160]

>>4557023
"Heavy" doesn't mean "oh shit I can never lift this thing wow it weighs so much", anon. It just means it's heavy.

[Anonymous No.4557304]

>>4557092
Pat said that original Xbox games are skyrocketing in price, so I think we should include that in retro now.

[Anonymous No.4557369]

Streamfags trying to justify why they watch people play games over playing games themselves

[Anonymous No.4557665]

>just emulate it

Except you're literally playing a different game. Original hardware, original cartridges only.

[Anonymous No.4557669]

>Waifu threads
>Generals outside of /vg/
>Tripfags and namefags
>"Which version of X is superior?" threads
>"Which sequel in this long-standing series should I play first, without ever having played the original game?" threads
>Console clone threads, which are most certainly marketers
>Flash cart threads, which are Krikzz marketing a vast majority of the time
>Emulation threads, which quickly get overtaken by Retroarch and Mednafen shills
>Resellers desperately trying to justify their practices to us, as if arguing with half of /vr/ is going to help them sleep at night
>/vr/eddit threads where an anon needs complete strangers to dictate what they play based solely on popular opinion, because these underage faggots are incapable of formulating their own opinions

Basically, all the forced marketing and underage shit that doesn't belong on a board whose primary demographic should be much older than it actually is. /vr/ is worse than /v/ in some ways. Frequenting this place can't be good for anyone's mental health.

[Anonymous No.4557684]

>It's not nostalgia

[Anonymous No.4557695]

>>4556071
>Emulation is literally a different game.

[Anonymous No.4557714]

>6th gen is retro

[Anonymous No.4557729]

>>4557669
If you stick to the good threads you avoid most of the crap. The waifu ones for instance are pretty embarrassing indeed, but I just ignore them. They don't flood the board that much for them to become a problem.

[Anonymous No.4557767]

>>4557729
>They don't flood the board that much for them to become a problem.
There's at least three active waifu threads at any given time. Some non-waifu threads also get hijacked into full-on waifu posting, effectively derailing the thread and ensuring no further discussion can take place. Usually threads about game series that tolerate moe posters.

[Anonymous No.4557791]

>>4557767
Yeah, but it doesn't affect me. I guess it's because I happen to not like games with moe characters on them.
Still, it's not as bad. It's not say /v/ levels of bad where you truly can't have nice things.

[Anonymous No.4557802]

>>4556809
I've seen people unironically argue some of the dumb shit about 1cc's, but not on here. If you creditfeed to practice later stages it doesn't count, if you're not in an arcade in Japan it doesn't count, if you practice on home versions/emulators it doesn't count, if it's not on original hardware it doesn't count, etc.

The spazoids arguing this shit are usually the types that have never 1cc'd anything in their lives anyway. The autism just never ends with this kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.4557810]

>>4557791
>Still, it's not as bad.

>>4474696
>>4549626
>>4540693
>>4553839

Video game ad threads are always certainly laced with waifus, and those are regurgitated like generals.

I recently ducked out of the Bomberman thread as soon as it dissolved into bickering about anthropomorphic lolis or some bullshit. So yeah, waifu posters do nothing but shit up this place even further, and need to be purged in good measure.

[Karakasa-Obake !!bwTnifX4END No.4557848]

>Should I sell my collection, I'm a manchild incapable of making up my own mind.

[Anonymous No.4557865]

>>4557810
If they get more out of hand I wouldn't mind this. For now it's not too bad, for me at least.

>>4557802
>If you creditfeed to practice later stages it doesn't count, if you're not in an arcade in Japan it doesn't count, if you practice on home versions/emulators it doesn't count, if it's not on original hardware it doesn't count, etc.
I wasn't prepared for this autism nuke.

[Anonymous No.4557872]

The dumbest thing so far in this thread are the /v/ memes. I thought I was among adults here. That and thinking DKC1 is shit.

[Anonymous No.4557874]

>>4556071
PSX bashing in general. It only has shovelware, it only has jrpgs, it has no good games, loading times make games unplayable, it ruined gaming, etc.

All bullshit posted by assblasted n64 and Saturn fanbois who are obsessed with console wars bullshit.

Also, I'm not a fan of Saturn shit posting. People saying it was the best console because of launch titles, or weeby shmups that only ever came out in Japan.
Saturn was a decent machine, don't get me wrong, it's just that 90 percent of its supporters are just spewing memes and have no further knowledge of the machine beyond that.

Similar with n64, actually. Though there it's mainly people comparing it to other consoles, but showing no functional knowledge of the other consoles. Like how n64 is better than PSX because Mario 64 is better than crash bandicoot 1. But no mention of any other games at all. Just generalizations based on just one game on each side as if that were enough to make one better than the other or not...
And again, I like n64 just fine. Fanboiz are just retards.

[Anonymous No.4557879]

>>4557874
So basically, consolewarring. Which is already bannable (or should be if the hotpockets were actually doing their jobs, for free)

[Anonymous No.4557882]

>>4557865
>If they get more out of hand

Exactly how out of hand does it have to get? /vr/ is a slow board. 4+ active waifu threads is literally more than /v/, one of the most high traffic boards on the site. Yes it's absolutely a problem, and it's been this way for months.

For all I know, you're one of the most avid waifu posters on /vr/. You're awfully intent on trying to diminish my argument.

[Anonymous No.4557889]

>>4557882
I'm not, and as I said I'd gladly not see any waifu shit here. How do we enforce it, though? And again, for some reason the threads I frequent don't suffer from this and I don't feel anything I care about is dying due to the waifu threads.
If you decide to ban this stuff them I'm all for it, just saying it's still not that bad for me yet.

[Anonymous No.4557928]

>Doom is a good game

[Anonymous No.4557951]

>>4556851

The key is to not update, they rarely add or change anything worthwhile anyway. Just grab a semi-recent version, look for a romset of the same version and go to work. Unless you really want to build your pachninko/mahjong collection you won't need to change anything.

[Anonymous No.4557962]

>>4556109

On a happier note we'll probably have USB/SD drive replacements for every console before all the lasers have died out and ceased being made. It won't be a big deal in the long-run.

[Anonymous No.4558771]

>>4557962
USB/SD will be ancient and obsolete by the time all the lasers have died

[Knuckles No.4558778]

>>4556071
>every CRT will be dead soon better switch to hdmi
>all the old consoles will be dead soon better get a super nt

[Anonymous No.4558786]

>>4558778
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve

Guess what end of the curve 20-30 year old hardware is on?

[Anonymous No.4559290]

>>4557160
So you are a faggot that cant even lift half of his body weight, ok

[Anonymous No.4559297]

>>4556071

> Games don't age
>The Amiga was bad (clearly spoken by an American who did not have an Amiga at the time)

[Anonymous No.4559346]

>>4556071
the problem is here is that they're all contrarian arguments

[Anonymous No.4559378]

>>4557848
Donate it to Pat, he knows best what to do with your investment.

[Anonymous No.4559915]

mame doesn't recognize my usb saturn pad, is it a known problem?

[Anonymous No.4559928]

>>4559290
>Reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.4560204]

>>4558786
Neither

[Anonymous No.4560635]

>1CC still counts even after the first quarter
>1CC counts if you went in with any prior knowledge of the game
>1CC counts if you didn't get the high score

[Anonymous No.4560639]

>>4560635
only the first one is wrong, do you even know what 1CC even means, retard?

[Anonymous No.4560642]

>>4560639
Sure do. If you try again from the start, it's not a 1CC. It means ONE CREDIT CLEAR. Not practice with 500 credits and clear it eventually. If you can't do it on the first try, you should probably just find another hobby.

[Anonymous No.4560659]

>>4560635
>>4560642
this le epix trole is hilarious xD

[Anonymous No.4560671]

>>4560659
Spotted the credit feeder.

Maybe try to be at least passable at gaming if you want to talk with the big boys.

[Anonymous No.4560690]

>When judging a game, you have to consider the time in which it was released.
>Also games "age" and get worse as people's standards change

[Anonymous No.4560691]

>>4560642
exactly, so what does having knowledge of the game or reaching high score judges whether a 1cc "counts"? single credit clearing the game is all there is to a 1cc, retard.

[Anonymous No.4560698]

>>4560691
It's like using a player's guide on an RPG. It's just going through the motions and isn't about skill. If you can't 1CC on your first try, you can't 1CC.

But people who aren't appallingly bad at games already know this.

[Anonymous No.4560716]

>>4560698
the whole point of 1cc is to clear the game on a single credit, which means being able to be good enough at the game to clear it without using more quarters. Literally zero people apart from you think its like using a strategy guide, otherwise you would never hear people talking about single credit clearing.

[Anonymous No.4560717]

but OP, Amiga really has no games
prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.4560719]

>>4560716
>I'm so bad at games I can't even conceive that anyone else might be!

[Anonymous No.4560724]

>>4560719
has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[Anonymous No.4560725]

>>4560724
>has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.4560727]

>>4560725
lurkmoar

[Anonymous No.4560729]

>>4560727

[Anonymous No.4560730]

If I like sonic spinball, am I stupid?

[Anonymous No.4560738]

>>4560730
It's the best Sonic game with the best soundtrack, so, no.

[Anonymous No.4560746]

>>4560730

Not all shovelware is shit. Sonic Spinball is actually pretty rad.

[Anonymous No.4560847]

>Sega consoles aren’t just for kids with divorced parents

[Anonymous No.4560850]

>>4556071
>What's the dumbest shit you've seen posted here?
Shills advertising their crappy chinx emulation boxes.

[Anonymous No.4560859]

>>4556216
>try a game for a dollar or less to see if you like it.

Computer magazines used to include CDs or DVDs full of juicy game demos, man. Try dozens of games for a few bucks to see if you like them, and just then, purchase them.

[Anonymous No.4560891]

>>4556071
> The (decade old sixth gen console) is not retro and never will be!
Back to /v/ you go. It's 2018.

[Anonymous No.4560932]

>>4556071
>The Amiga has no games!
But it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.4560971]

>6th gen is retro

[Anonymous No.4560996]

>Neo Geo is only fighting games
>Street Fighter is a good game
>Nintendo
>PSX is a PS2

[Anonymous No.4561009]

>>4560996
>>Neo Geo is only fighting games
But that's correct thoe.

[Anonymous No.4561020]

>>4561009
How do you survive being that retarded? 60% of the library isn't fighting games, but degenerate brainlets like you can't be bothered to pay attention.

[Anonymous No.4561029]

>>4561009
>what is Metal Slug
Although to be fair, when you think of a Neo-Geo title that's not a fighter, you think of Metal Slug.

[Anonymous No.4561037]

>>4560690
The thing is, I'd say standards have not only changed so much in modern times, but also overall lowered, to the point that people that have only played modern games almost consider classic games alien.
I've encountered it before, even with people born in around 1990. If a game doesn't feature a plot, or aesthetics that click with them, or any kind of progress system to get addicted to they just instantly write them off as worthless. Like, why would they ever play a game without any of that stuff, it seems a pointless experience to them.
Modern gamers have grown to like video games, sure, but not to engage with game mechanics, but to enjoy the for entirely different reasons. They play for the extrinsic reasons and don't find gameplay or challenge by itself intrinsically fun.

[Anonymous No.4561069]

>>4561037
>progress system
Remember to filter this word, it's that same retard again.

[Anonymous No.4561532]

>>4561069
You surely need a trigger warning every time this word is mentioned, Jesus.

[Anonymous No.4562119]

>>4560891
No, you'll be the one going back to /v/, at least if you want to have a discussion about 6th gen+ stuff.

[Anonymous No.4562125]

>>4561532
He's right, though. It's just one retarded kid repeating it.

[Anonymous No.4562208]

>>4558771

True, but by then so will the human race. I just hope the roaches get some use out of my GD-EMU.

[Anonymous No.4562235]

>>4562125
Is it a wrong statement, though?

[Anonymous No.4562767]

>SNES sounds better than Genesis

[Anonymous No.4562772]

>>4556071
>emulation is bad!
That's 100% correct except for Genesis GX on Wii

[Anonymous No.4562791]

>>4560971
It will be in a few short years. The 20 year rule will apply then.

[Anonymous No.4562981]

>>4562791
This board doesn't have a 20 year rule.

[Anonymous No.4563084]

>>4562767
depends on game desu familama

[Anonymous No.4563258]

>>4562235
If you're asking about >>4561037 then yes, it's a wrong statement pretty much entirely. I think the term is "projecting" yeah? Where your own particular view on a subject is the only one you seem capable of grasping so you just assume it applies to everyone? Yeah, don't do that.

[Anonymous No.4563442]

>>4560730
Unff...thanks doc!

[Anonymous No.4563486]

>>4562981
Man, they really want it to have one, though. They think if they just keep bringing it up it'll suddenly become real.

[Anonymous No.4563580]

>>4563258
Then tell me how I'm not wrong.
Just today I went to a friend's house to play some Super Punch Out, Dogyuun, Smash TV, Splatterhouse and Final Fight.
His buddy (he shares the flat with two other guys) was instead playing HearthStone alone because he had to get the daily rewards or something.

[Anonymous No.4563581]

>>4563580
how I'm not right*

[Anonymous No.4563592]

>I would like a translation of this pre-internet game without the memes.

[Anonymous No.4563597]

>>4562772
>It's all bad everywhere
>Except for this one specific thing on this one specific platform, which owes itself to bad things

This is more like Stupidity on 4chan though.

[Anonymous No.4563645]

>>4560738

Sonic spinball music sounds like oldschool porno film music, its insufferable

[Anonymous No.4563656]

>>4563645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj66eoC8ntI

[Anonymous No.4563659]

>>4563580
You're not right because you're trying to paint an entire global hobby community based on your own personal experiences. How do you not understand this?

[Anonymous No.4563663]

>>4560738
>with the best soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh2WTCQZkdg

[Anonymous No.4563667]

>>4562981
Well who died and made you drag queen of /vr/.

[Anonymous No.4563668]

>>4563645
>not listening to it in the background while rouge porn is showing

[Anonymous No.4563679]

>>4563659
Well, it's not like my particular experience is that uncommon. What are the kind of games that sell nowadays? That's right.
I'd agree that if I based my argument only on that it would't be enough, but game sales and the like are a objective measure. Classic games without those elements I mentioned aren't popular anymore, maybe for people watching streamers and the like but not much else and even then only the most popular of the older games.

[Anonymous No.4563683]

>doom is a better game than duke because duke relies too much on hit scanners.

[Anonymous No.4563687]

>>4563679
If for some reason you guys keep doubting me then read this http://www.housemarque.com/arcade-is-dead/

[Anonymous No.4563696]

>>4563580
dailies are absolute cancer thank you WoW expansions

[Anonymous No.4563702]

>>4563696
It's one of the worst kinds of progress systems. It makes people anxious when not playing a game, a cheap way to get the less informed consumers addicted.
Sadly, it works.

[Anonymous No.4563707]

>>4563679
>but game sales and the like are a objective measure.
Oh yeah, real objective on a board dedicated to discussing/playing games that most of which haven't been sold in decades. C'mon, man.

[Anonymous No.4563710]

>>4563707
Eh... It shows you that games similar to those discussed here aren't being sold very much anymore (they exist but in limited supply an aren't popular). And those who are sold feature the elements I mentioned, not common to classic games EVERY time.

[Anonymous No.4563712]

>>4563710
Yeah, there's not a really huge market for 30+ year old entertainment software. Who knew, right?

[Anonymous No.4563717]

>>4563712
Sure, gaming has changed. People aren't into pure arcade fun anymore (just engaging with game mechanics), and play for aesthetics, plot, getting permanent rewards... Glad to see you agree at least.

[Anonymous No.4563721]

>>4563717
But I don't agree with you, as you're trying to paint entire demographics with absolutes. You're acting like modern games selling to modern gamers is some profound insight, or some injustice. It's neither. There are plenty of younger people interested in older games, and that doesn't exclude an interest in modern stuff, either.

[Anonymous No.4563725]

Some anons are hardcore stupid on this board. Often i leave here scratching my head at the bottomless stupidity that is /vr/

[Anonymous No.4563727]

I, too, like to make vague shitposts without quoting any particular post for the purposes of trolling.

[Anonymous No.4563741]

>>4563721
That's cool and all but it doesn't change the fact that games designed with classic style are becoming extinct and you have to refer to older games if you like these at all.

[Anonymous No.4563754]

>>4563741
>the fact that games designed with classic style are becoming extinct
Oh, ffs. No, they're not. They're just not. People are still making these sorts of games, and people are always going to buy them. Stop with the alarmist stuff.

[Anonymous No.4563758]

>>4563754
http://www.housemarque.com/arcade-is-dead/

The trend is for them to disappear. If you don't see this you're delusional.

[Anonymous No.4563759]

The myth and notion that survival horror constitutes a real genre and not a theme.

[Anonymous No.4563760]

>>4563758
lol no
They're not going to disappear. Don't even understand who thinks this stupid shit, other than the people like you linked to - people disappointed that "arcade game #181" didn't make 90 gorillion dollars in its first week.

[Anonymous No.4563763]

>>4563741
>>4563754
They're not as much becoming extinct as they're becoming economically unviable for any kind of teams. They become relegated to inexperienced amateur developers who use them as stepping stones and simply don't understand how to make good games. If you look at steam, there are quite a few arcade games being made but very few can even match mediocre arcade releases.

[Anonymous No.4563769]

>>4563763
Which is completely different than alarmist bullshit about the "extinction of arcade style gaming" or whatever. You a different poster, or just moving the goalposts?

[Anonymous No.4563773]

>>4563760
>arcade game #181
This just further shows that you don't know what you're talking about. It's a relatively high budget new release which was partially worked on by fucking Eugene Jarvis and is developed by an experienced studio which has quite a few quality titles under its belt.

[Anonymous No.4563775]

>>4563769
Different poster. It's as close to dead as a genre can possibly get though. Otherwise no style can truly "die", because there will always be halfassed attempts at it here and there.

[Anonymous No.4563780]

>>4563759
Indeed, they are adventure games with some action elements. A lot of people play them for the aesthetics though (the horror aspect) so that's why they are hell bent on calling it its own genre.
It's not that stupid, though: their action aspect is based on survival, having to manage limited resources and stuff instead of overpowering enemies.

>>4563760
The people I linked are devs that made games like these that have decided to stop doing so due to them not being sustainable at all anymore due to their decrease in popularity. This guy gets it >>4563763
>>4563769
Yes, he's a different guy.
And I wouldn't call crappy Steam indie remotely arcade inspired as counting, most of the time they don't get the point of these at all and make them for cheap until they are able to make the stuff they really want to. I've seen arcade style games there boasting about having unlockables ffs.

[Anonymous No.4563782]

>>4563773
Yep, and THIS flopped. And these guys are like "don't be an alarmist, there are furry shoot'em ups with unlockables coming out on Steam!"

[Anonymous No.4563783]

>>4563773
>It's a relatively high budget new release
Which is why I've never heard of it, right? That's beside the point, though. It not making as much money as they'd like doesn't mark the end of a game genre.
>which was partially worked on by fucking Eugene Jarvis
Contributions from old industry fossils doesn't really have any bearing, either. Who are you trying to impress by namedropping Jarvis? The kids who actually buy new games? They have no fucking idea who he is. The oldsters who might remember him from the Williams days? Yeah, they might buy it, but they're certainly not the "target demographic" you're looking for, as all new video games made today have to sell at least 500 trillion units (in at least the first week) to be considered successful.

[Anonymous No.4563784]

okay, the samefagging is getting to be a little too much now. worry less about "winning" a pointless internet argument and worry more about having a discussion.

[Anonymous No.4563789]

>>4563783
Your organism contains heavy does of /v/. Jesus Christ, that post, I don't even know where to begin.

Anyway, if gaming truly is the same as always and classic style games aren't in any way disappearing, why is there an /vr/ board here in the first place?

[Anonymous No.4563793]

>>4563789
>Anyway, if gaming truly is the same as always and classic style games aren't in any way disappearing
Make a bigger strawman, why don't you?

[Anonymous No.4563797]

>>4563783
When the most high budget arcade game developed by an experienced team with Eugene Jarvis helping out fails financially, you've got a problem. Despite all that it's still massively more successful than most modern arcade games, this is not the sign of a healthy genre. Also yes, marketing is a large part of the problem but how does that change?

[Anonymous No.4563801]

>>4563797
>When the most high budget arcade game developed by an experienced team with Eugene Jarvis helping out fails financially, you've got a problem.
Sure, but this isn't the end of anything. It's not even the beginning of the end.
>OH GOD PLEASE NO IT'S ALL OGRE!
Just no. Stop this. No, the "old days" aren't coming back, in any form. But these styles of game aren't going extinct, either. That's just bullshit.

[Anonymous No.4563802]

>>4563793
We would be able to discuss games in harmony if that was the case. But there's a very clear gap in how games were designed and how they are now which attracts different kinds of people. You can really feel it here.

[Anonymous No.4563804]

>>4563801
>It's not even the beginning of the end.
Sure, that was years ago lol

[Anonymous No.4563808]

>>4563804
Yeah, probably. Let me know when the extinction finally occurs.
Which will be right around never.

[Anonymous No.4563810]

>>4563808
100% extinction is probably never going to happen but they are becoming more and more irrelevant and scarce every year, as >>4563775 pointed out. If you liked these games and only played the new releases without going back to older games you'd feel miserable as fuck.

[Anonymous No.4563812]

>>4563810
>100% extinction is probably never going to happen
Which was exactly my point.

[Anonymous No.4563817]

>>4563812
Well duh, of course then. But when a style of game is reduced to mostly a bunch of half-assed indie attempts at these it's pretty much dead anyway.

[Anonymous No.4563820]

>>4563801
Well as with anything, it's a slow decline. Frequency and quality go down, sales go down, amount of new players decreases, etc. Don't take "death" in this context so literally.

[Anonymous No.4563824]

>>4563820
Indeed, which is why I used the term "trend". The trend is for them to disappear, even if they never disappear COMPLETELY. Some anons get triggered for some reason since they don't like these games to begin with and think we're exaggerating.

[Anonymous No.4563830]

>>4563824
But you are exaggerating. These games aren't going anywhere. And I enjoy them as much as the next person.

[Anonymous No.4563835]

>>4563830
Okay then, tell me the arcade style games you've enjoyed from 2017. You didn't even know Nex Machina was a thing.

[Anonymous No.4563838]

>>4563835
But I didn't enjoy any arcade style games in 2017. The genre is completely extinct.

[Anonymous No.4563839]

>>4563838
OK, glad you stopped the trolling.

[Anonymous No.4563840]

>>4563683
That is silly.

Doom is better because there is more content.

[Anonymous No.4563842]

>>4563839
There wasn't any trolling, I just got tired of reading your drivel about "skinner addicted gamers" and "extinct genres" mostly.

[Anonymous No.4563843]

>>4563840
I like Doom and all but I hate this muh content meme, it screams of /v/

[Anonymous No.4563845]

>>4563842
Or you just got cornered and exposed as not really liking these and not knowing what you're talking about and are just backing off now.

[Anonymous No.4563848]

>>4563845
Or YOU just got cornered and exposed when you tried to backpedal with "trend" earlier when you realized someone was challenging the "why doesn't the industry solely focus on making 'teh hardc0ar gamez 4 hardc0ar gamerz (such as myself xD)" circlejerk you so desperately wanted. Or again now while you're YET AGAIN trying to change the focus of the discussion in the hopes of putting the attention on me as some sort of troll or fraud.

[Anonymous No.4563850]

>>4563835
Not that fag, but have you played Zangeki Warp, Bleed 2, Fight'N Rage, Wild Arms Reloaded, Danmaku Unlimited 3 and Maldita Castilla EX? There's Raiden V too but we don't talk about that.

[Anonymous No.4563852]

>>4556071
>PS1 has no games
>N64 didn’t have any shovelware

[Anonymous No.4563853]

>>4563850
You just completely made all those games up. Stop trolling.

[Anonymous No.4563857]

>>4563848
>backpedal
>>4563758

Not asking the industry to only make "hardcore" games (not all arcade games have to be that and indeed they weren't), just saying they are becoming too irrelevant to the point they almost aren't getting good new releases anymore. I wouldn't mind a varied gaming landscape (this was the case in the 00's for instance, arcade style games weren't the biggest trend anymore but there were still plenty of amazing new releases) but these pretty much don't have a place anymore.

[Anonymous No.4563858]

>>4563853
Wasn't talking to you, shitposter-kun.

[Anonymous No.4563859]

>>4563857
Yes, that was the exact post that you backpedaled in. And no, the genre isn't extinct and it isn't going to be. Glad we cleared this up.

>>4563858
Not agreeing with some turbofaggots histrionics doesn't make me a shitposter.

[Anonymous No.4563860]

>>4560996
>PSX is a PS2
It is though, nice try at revisionist history there Pol Pot.

[Anonymous No.4563861]

>>4563850
I played Maldita Castilla when it was released as freeware years ago lol
Are you really listing a remaster/remake as a new release of a made for console game (albeit very arcadey), as well? That's desperate.
And yeah, I didn't say there had absolutely disappeared. I just wanted to see if this anon had played ANYTHING, he seemed to be talking out of his ass.

[Anonymous No.4563868]

>>4563843
In a sense it kinda is, because mod nuttery like in Bethesda's modboxes isn't much of a /vr/ thing outside of Doom.

[Anonymous No.4563870]

>>4563859
When your favorite genre is reduced to mostly a bunch of lower quality indie titles per year you'll understand us.

[Anonymous No.4563871]

>>4563860
>Pol Pot
Only seventies kids will get this reference!

[Anonymous No.4563872]

>>4563861
I'm not him, I'm the guy who was arguing against his blind optimism. Just recommending some games I enjoyed a lot last year.

[Anonymous No.4563873]

>>4563868
It's a thing in Freespace 2 which is a game I love but it isn't popular here.

[Anonymous No.4563874]

>>4563870
My favorite genre is shmups, and has been since roughly the mid eighties. So tell me, do I understand you or not?

[Anonymous No.4563879]

>>4563872
I knew. Check the other free games from Locomalito, he makes some cool if derivative stuff.

[Anonymous No.4563881]

>>4563874
How can you say stuff like "arcades aren't dying" if you're a shmup fan, this is insane. How have you been enjoying the Cave titles from the last 5 years, anon?

[Anonymous No.4563884]

>>4563879
Yeah I've played almost all of them. Enjoyed Curse of Issyos the most I think, didn't feel quite as derivative as his other stuff. Cautiously optimistic about this :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMA3yg5GmtU

[Anonymous No.4563886]

>>4563881
>How can you say stuff like "arcades aren't dying" if you're a shmup fan
That's simple. I didn't say anything of the sort to begin with. There are a handful of arcades left in the country. I happen to live in fairly close proximity to one of them. I'm familiar with their scarcity.

>>4563881
>How have you been enjoying the Cave titles from the last 5 years, anon?
Immensely. That's how. There were a couple of imperfect hiccups with the DDP Resurrection release, but other than that it's been smooth sailing. It was Mushi that I was the most interested in, though. Hoping to get the second one on Steam eventually.

[Anonymous No.4563891]

>>4563886
>most anticipated new shmup is a (most likely) halfassed port of a 12 year old game you can play at any time already
Or are you looking forward to their mobage too?

[Anonymous No.4563894]

>>4563886
But they haven't released a new game since 2012, anon. Nor plan to.
They were the biggest arcade shmup dev left and they just stopped making them. If the Housemarque article wasn't enough for you, then I hope this is.

[Anonymous No.4563913]

>>4563891
>>4563894
So fucking what? I'm well aware that Cave is out of the game. They did plenty while they were still around. I kinda figured asking about Cave was supposed to be some sort of "gotcha! haha! no new games from them!" bullshit. There were plenty of other danmaku for me to enjoy in the last few years. Hell, I'll even give you another shitposting "gotcha" freebie. I really liked Blue Revolver. Looking forward to the BL release.

[Anonymous No.4563918]

>>4563913
Our whole point is that these games are disappearing, anon. If good devs like these stop making them due to the style being unprofitable and we're only left with crappy indie games more and more, then it's pretty much RIP.

[Anonymous No.4563923]

>>4563918
>Our whole point is that these games are disappearing, anon.
I just mentioned Blue Revolver as an example. No, wait, let me guess. That's a "crappy indie game" that doesn't count, right?

[Anonymous No.4563926]

>>4563923
Are disappearing =/= Have disappeared

[Anonymous No.4563927]

>>4563926
Are disappearing =/= Going to disappear

[Anonymous No.4563931]

>>4563927
Well, I highly doubt these games are going to make a comeback. They are disappearing and, if things keep going like they are, in some years we'll only have those crappy indies I mentioned left, if at all.
If the biggest devs of arcade style games that have supported the genre for years are foregoing making these isn't a red flag for you then I don't know that is.

[Anonymous No.4563935]

>>4563931
>Well, I highly doubt these games are going to make a comeback.
He says, while in the middle of yet another gigantic worldwide retro boom.

[Anonymous No.4563940]

>>4563935
Are you kidding me, anon? Pixel roguelite metroidvanias (and even these aren't FIFA or CoD) is not the stuff we folks are looking for.

[Anonymous No.4563943]

>>4563940
>Pixel roguelite metroidvanias (and even these aren't FIFA or CoD) is not the stuff we folks are looking for.
When did I suggest that's what "you folks" were looking for?

[Anonymous No.4563948]

>>4563943
Because that's what the "gigantic worldwide retro boom" mostly consists of? Games that only look like they're old because of being sprite-based but don't actually feature classic design?

[Anonymous No.4563950]

>>4563948
So you're saying there's no one out there doing games featuring classic design?

[Anonymous No.4563954]

>>4563950
What I'm suggesting is that each year there are less games like that. Their overall budget and quality is also decreasing.

[Anonymous No.4563962]

>>4563860
If you weren't some baby born in 2007 you would have been around to know it was abbreviated PSX long before the PS2 DVR version came around.

You won't be under age forever, but you will be a dumb fagit forever.

[Anonymous No.4563964]

>>4563950
>So you're saying...
>proceeds to misrepresent what he's saying
Every time. It's a decline, a general trend. What is with this black and white thinking?

[Anonymous No.4563965]

>>4563962
Not him but what the hell would a 10-11 year old kid be doing here at all from all the 4chan boards?

[Anonymous No.4563970]

>>4563964
The guy is pretty thick headed for whatever reason, he doesn't seem to be trolling so it's pretty surprising. Or maybe he's the rare good troll.

[Anonymous No.4563983]

>>4563965
Shitposting about what they think happened when they weren't even born. I don't know why someone would do that, but clearly that's what's happened here.

[Anonymous No.4563998]

>>4563983
I don't think a slow board like this is the most appealing place to go shitpost. If they crave attention they'd go for the faster boards.

[Anonymous No.4564058]

>>4563962
I’m not a kiddo, I’ve had my PS1 since 96. I’m just not a moron stuck in the past like you. Where does it say “psx” anywhere on the original PlayStation or its box or manuals. Just because some magazines back in the day called it that doesn’t mean it’s called that now. Do you call the GC a dolphin? Do call a DC a katana? Do you call a Switch an NX?

Fuck off feggit

[Anonymous No.4564068]

>>4564058
Getting this buttblasted over calling it the wrong thing!

[Anonymous No.4564079]

>>4556071
>Dracula X snes is the best castlevania because it is the hardest
>the original adventure island is worth playing
>the saturn was the best console of the 5th gen
>megaman 1 is the hardest nes game in the series

[Anonymous No.4564128]

>>4564079
What NES Mega Man is harder than 1 then?

[Anonymous No.4564563]

>>4564128
definitely 4. possibly 3 going by the doc robot levels

keep in mind i've beat all 6 of them

[Anonymous No.4564569]

>>4564563
4 has stuff like E-Tanks at your disposal. I guess you're comparing buster only no E-Tank runs or something?

[Anonymous No.4564582]

>>4564569
not him but I guess you could argue 1 is harder than 4 if you're really really bad just because of e-tank farming. But for most people 4 is definitely harder, because the actual levels and fights are harder.

[Anonymous No.4564586]

>>4564582
Some levels in 1 are pretty hard without the Magnet Beam and the bosses deal a LOT of damage, Elec Man IIRC can kill you in three hits or something like that. 4 is on the harder side for these but I don't see how it's harder than 1, really. I might have to compare them by replaying the games back to back now.

[Anonymous No.4564591]

>>4564586
maybe it's because levels are harder than bosses for me. I never understood the yellow devil's infamy for example

[Anonymous No.4564610]

>>4564591
Yellow Devil is more tedious than hard anyway. His pattern is very static, it's just that you have to endure it for a lot in buster only runs.

[Anonymous No.4564627]

>>4564563
>possibly 3
You must mean without using the Rush Jet at all except in Needle Man stage 2

[Anonymous No.4564643]

>>4556286
Games do age in the sense that when newer games come out and innovate on old conventions, the older ones are seen as inferior. Think of it this way: most people wouldn't call a monitor with a monochrome screen good anymore compared to monitors of today. It's not that they physically age and deteriorate, they just don't meet up to modern standards.

[Anonymous No.4564667]

>>4564643
Too bad newer games these days have almost nothing to do with older games and if anything they are worse in design.

[Anonymous No.4564673]

>>4564667
It's almost like you could say video game sensibilities have changed. Which is what people mean when they say they have aged.

[Anonymous No.4564685]

>>4564667
>games these days have almost nothing to do with older games
That's a huge generalization. Newer games improve as well as worsen. It's a case-by-case basis. My point still stands that qualitative distinctions change with people's standards over time.

[Anonymous No.4564703]

>>4564685
Sure. Mostly worsen, though.
This is why people get mad at the term "aged" these days when it wouldn't haven been that much of a deal in '98 when talking about '78 stuff.

[Anonymous No.4564736]

>emulation is bad. original carts only!!
lmao no thanks, have fun paying $180 to some grimy fuck in a retro game store to play a game you can play instantly in browser or through a PC emulator for free
>muh scan lines! muh experience!
i'll survive

[Anonymous No.4564747]

>>4564736
The worst part is the input lag, but it's hardly a big deal considering how some people get insane scores in emulated arcade shooters.

[Anonymous No.4564748]

>>4564736
scan lines are gross. but there are multiple emulators that now have optional filters such as scan lines and "CRT fuzz"

[Anonymous No.4564804]

>>4564748
>that kid who used 100% dark scanlines

[Anonymous No.4564810]

>>4556286

>deteriorate like a person

But that is why games "age". The games don't change, but people do.

All media is made up of tropes or references to other works. They use these tropes as shorthand to get something across to the consumer. and often these references only make sense in a certain era. We don't need to be told that the ghosts in Pac-Man are ghosts; we take one look at them and we know because they resemble the "bedsheet ghost" archetype. But if that trope becomes less popular, people in the future, well, they'll know they're ghosts because the game says so, but won't get that immediate, gut "they're ghosts" reaction. It'll be robbed of context.

History can radically change context, too. For instance, media dealing with the Twin Towers is going to feel vastly different pre-9/11 than post 9/11, and the way we perceive falling buildings has changed; they don't feel realistic anymore without a wave of dust and falling paper.

[Anonymous No.4564823]

>>4564810

Also, the cultural zeitgeist, the memes, the feelings, the in-jokes of our collective culture change constantly. The Day After and Threads are powerful movies, but they were even more powerful in the early 80s when people were terrified of nuclear war.

[Anonymous No.4564828]

>>4564823
>>4564810
if the game is multiplayer culture can definitely change the game itself. Take vanilla WoW for example. When Blizzard opens those new vanilla servers, even thought he software may be identical, the game will be different because part of MMO content is the playerbase and their culture. Back in those days people said w00t and Chuck Norris jokes and the XDs were unironic. Now the Barrens chat will be filled with cuck, soyboys, and, worst of all, ironic xDs

[Anonymous No.4565342]

>>4564673
>Arcade shooters don't let you explore an open world therefore they've aged.

[Anonymous No.4566018]

>>4557669
>Retroarch shills
>shilling for a free thing
I really don't get this. How is that statement not stupidity? Because wahh I don't like it or because it's popular?

Just what is the meaning of shill here?

[Anonymous No.4566048]

>>4566018
That guy always just posts that line and leaves amid getting BTFO'd. I've asked this almost every thread I've seen it in and never get a response.

He's just salty about /vr/'s state like some of us are on this thread. Let it be.

[Anonymous No.4566050]

>>4566018
he's too much of a brainlet to set up proper emulation and is butthurt about it i guess.

[Anonymous No.4566185]

>>4556071
This entire thread depresses me.

Does anyone else remember when the atmosphere here was almost normie-quality pleasant, and all this angry /v/ vitriol wasn't the norm?

[Anonymous No.4566507]

>>4558786
>"While the bathtub curve is useful, not every product or system follows a bathtub curve hazard function, for example if units are retired or have decreased use during or before the onset of the wear-out period, they will show fewer failures per unit calendar time (not per unit use time) than the bathtub curve"

[Anonymous No.4566513]

>>4566185
At that time though, there was a vitrol agaisnt /v/ faggotry. It's only a matter of time that everything wears down when you're living next to a cesspool.

[Anonymous No.4567441]

>>4556071
ITT: Butthurt - The Thread

[Anonymous No.4568060]

>Using anything but a CRT for retro

It's amazing how many retards get this wrong.

[Anonymous No.4568096]

>>4560717
>Cannon Fodder
>Alien Breed
>Magic Pockets
>Turrican
>Turrican 2
>Jim Power
>Sensible Soccer
>Monkey Island 1&2
kys faggot

[Anonymous No.4568680]

>>4556972
Shit, my grandpa had this exact tv. It was great. Thanks for reminding me of him, anon.

[Anonymous No.4568723]

>any crt with component will suffer from noticeable input lag

[Anonymous No.4569329]

>>4556972
Atari computers are good, but the consoles sucked hard.

[Anonymous No.4569330]

>>4568723
Component shouldn't even exist, it's just retarded.