/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.455440]

Stuff that you randomly stumbled upon while playing a retro game in the pre-internet days.

Pic related, I thought I was the smartest motherfucker around when I discovered you could powerbomb that glass tube in Super Metroid

[Anonymous No.456616]

Don't you pretty much *have* to do that to beat the game? Since the upper entry to Maridia only takes you as far as the wrong side of one of those one-way super missile gates?

[Anonymous No.456623]

if you power bomb the tube and put down the controller, it won't break until you press a button

[Anonymous No.456632]

>>456616

hm. are you talking about the long vertical shaft that ushers you to the lower portion? if not, which gates are you talking about?

i'm curious now. i might have to see if it's possible to do a no-tube break run. there are definitely alternative ways out of maridia.

[Anonymous No.456651]

>>456632
Maridia is connected to the wrecked ship, but I think it's a one way route with crumble blocks.
However, there's a backdoor to the Power Bomb branch of Brinstar which is sealed off with a green gate, you should be able to glitch around that one.

[Anonymous No.456662]

If you attack a harvester with infantry it will run them over, but won't resume harvesting.

[Anonymous No.456673]

>>456651

This is the exit I was thinking of. As long as you don't fuck up in upper Maridia then it should be feasible to get out this way, in which case you could just go up the red brinstar shaft and run through the wrecked ship again.

I'm just failing to remember exactly how accessible that exit is from the maridia grapple beam room below and to the right of it.

[Anonymous No.456675]

>>456651

This is the exit I was thinking of. As long as you don't fuck up in upper Maridia then it should be feasible to get out this way, in which case you could just go up the red brinstar shaft and run through the wrecked ship again.

I'm just failing to remember exactly how accessible that exit is from the maridia grapple beam room below and to the right of it.

[Anonymous No.456681]

[Anonymous No.456692]

tfw trying to do this as a kid

[Anonymous No.456705]

>>456651
And because I have nothing better to do, here it is.

[Anonymous No.456713]

The fifth Chaos Emerald in Sonic the Hedgehog 2 on the Game Gear. The one I hadn't ever found that was needed to really beat the game.

I was just screwing around in act 2 trying to hit a weird-looking background decoration when I ended up inside a hidden passage I would've never thought to actually look for at that age.

That was a good day.

[Anonymous No.456742]

>>456705

welp, looks like my monday night just got booked.

[Anonymous No.456746]

Getting the Gomutai (pretty much the best weapon for the hero) in Paladin's Quest for SNES. It involved getting a few enemies called Sleepers to run away from battle and follow your party. After a certain amount (six, I think) they'd combine into a BigBoss. After you defeat him you get a Gomutai!

[Anonymous No.456749]

>>456681
Fuck those types of hidden items, especially the ones that have no indication whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.456756]

this shit

[Anonymous No.456763]

That if you left one enemy alive on a screen in the overworld of zelda 1 nes, the others wouldnt respawn.

I picked the game back up recently, and was so confused why there were so many enemies than I remember. Then, instinctively, I just left one and walked to the next screen. It wasn't until the 3 dungeon where I backtrack across the center before I realized what I was doing and why.

I haven't played the game in almost 20 years.

[Anonymous No.456776]

>>456616
OP here. I'm not as big of an expert as a speed runner would be, but I've never beaten the game without doing it.

It just felt like a huge accomplishment when I was 8 years old wandering around the map for a week with no idea what to do, and I randomly set off a powerbomb here and it caused the tube to shatter, I thought it was a pretty big deal at the time (pre internet days, I was the first of my friends to play through the game)

[Anonymous No.456779]

Pretty much anything in Zelda II.

[Anonymous No.456789]

>>456779
I didn't play much of Zelda II, but don't they tell you blatantly wrong instructions sometimes?

[Anonymous No.456790]

herp derp

[Anonymous No.456794]

>>456779
animate damnit!

[Anonymous No.456795]

>>456789
go play it... now

[Anonymous No.456806]

>>456789
That's Simons Quest aka Castlevania II your thinking of.

Zelda II actually gives some useful hints.

[Anonymous No.456805]

>>456756
Because of that I'd wind up running through every hallway shooting every ceiling tile.

[Anonymous No.456807]

I stumbled upon a way to crash Road Rash 2.

[Anonymous No.456815]

>>456789
No, that was Simon's Quest you must be thinking of.
Zelda II is beatable without guides.

[Anonymous No.456818]

Winning at pretty much any point-and-click game pretty much fits here.

[Anonymous No.456819]

>>456789
No, it doesn't. Zelda II has a bunch of NPCs that say they know nothing, and the one who says "I am Error" (Error later tells you where one of the palaces are), but none of the hints they give are wrong. Castlevania II has some false tips, but the game itself tells you that some of the tips are false, so it's sort of fair.

[Anonymous No.456823]

>>456805
I did that in Super after I found that wall in the elevator room that could only be destroyed with super missiles. After that, I checked EVERY single surface in that game for secrets. Thats probably the main reason why I prefer SM over Sotn, Sotn could've definitely benefitted from more false walls and stuff like that imo

[Anonymous No.456826]

>>456806
>>456815
I know Simon's Quest is even more fucked up, but I remember playing and being told to go east or west when it was actually the opposite. I guess I could be wrong.

I actually did play, I'm not going off of AVGN here.

[Anonymous No.456836]

>>456819
theory is error is bagu's bro -> bagu = bug in japanese

[Anonymous No.456854]

>>456823
Honestly, you're kind of an anomaly. I don't think most people enjoy probing every last square inch of every otherwise perfectly normal wall in an entire game.

[Anonymous No.456869]

>>456854
there are entire games based on exactly this

[Anonymous No.456879]

>>456823
Well it's kind of simplified in Super Metroid since they give you that scanner upgrade to find hidden blocks.

[Anonymous No.456883]

It took me 3 days to realize what to do at that fucking part before Meridia.

[Anonymous No.456908]

the first time I did met ozma in ff9
>imagine me doing chocobo hot/cold
>oh btw you can go to new area!
>go to eidolon graveyard
>meet boss
>be level 99
>HAHAHA YOU WILL DIE SPINNY ORB
>50+party whipes later
>wtf why is he so hard?!?!?
>mfw I now do single character level 1 challenge runs of him
>mfw I have no face.

[Anonymous No.456912]

>>456908
>>mfw I now do single character level 1 challenge runs of him

how.

[Anonymous No.456936]

>>456912
Well apparently level doesn't mean shit in some games.

[Anonymous No.456945]

>>456936
i'm currently playing FFIX for the first time and i simply can't fathom how you could beat a boss that strong with a level one character. although interestingly enough this does seem like the one game you'd be able to do a level one run in because your main character can flee from fights and the bosses don't give ANY XP! i was pretty pissed at first but then i realized you don't really need to grind whatsoever unless you want to master all the abilities. the levels don't matter much, but my initial point still stands.

[Anonymous No.456958]

>>456945
Ozma's trick is don't attack him

[Anonymous No.456968]

>>456912
Abillities and luck the whole game can be played through at level 1 because bosses don't give exp. Also every character (well almost every character) can have a set up that does 9999 and isn't based in levels or exp (quinas frog drop zidanes thievery, freyas dragon crest ec ect ect

[Anonymous No.456970]

>>456958
>>456968
aaaaah. well don't i look foolish.

[Anonymous No.456981]

>>456970
its chill did you know that the biggest challenge for ff8 is playing it like a normal rpg? enemies level with you, but you don't scale normally. Unless you abuse the junction system, your gonna have a hard as fuck game on your hands.

[Anonymous No.456985]

>>456981
i did not know that, but i'm glad i do, seeing as i started playing it a while ago but never finished, and it's been long enough i plan on just starting over when i get around to playing it. i won't be abusing the junction system, but i'm sure as hell not going to play it without some grinding now that i know that. that's cool that enemies level with you, i had no idea that was the case.

[Anonymous No.456990]

>>456985
Grinding will kill you. The games version of grinding is the card game.

[Anonymous No.456995]

>>456990
i meant grinding the junction thing or whatever, it's been a long time since i've played that one so i forget the specifics of that. i know that it's broken as hell if you abuse it though.

explain what you mean about the card game though? i thought it was just meant as a fun distraction, like it seems to be in ffix?

[Anonymous No.457006]

>>456995
Well the thing is each one of the GFs (guardian forces) learns the ability magic refine which lets you refine magic from cards. You can get some powerful effing cards real early. Combine this with item refine and you can crack the game wide open in about 4 hours.

[Anonymous No.457010]

>>457006
Your forgetting that combining the above technique with staying at a low level means your hitting 9999 on monsters with 100 hp for the whole game.

[Anonymous No.457016]

>>457006
oh shit. i had no idea. that's super awesome. now i have to decide whether or not to do that when i get around to playing it...probably going to be a long time though. i've shamefully started every final fantasy game from 1-10 but only finished 3 and 4, until a few days ago when i finally marathoned through 1 in like 3 sittings. i'm playing IX right now, and when i finish i think i'll play through VI since everyone here seems to love the fuck out of it.

i loved V, but i never did get around to finishing it, in spite of putting a ton of hours into the damn thing grinding those job abilities and stuff.

[Anonymous No.457043]

>>457016
Would you believe 9 is my favorite? I always get crap for it but...In my opinion at least, it is one of my all time examples of games as art, up there with deus ex, and (lists a huge number of games) its just that from beginning to end it is a play. No game ahs ever left me feeling so satisfied at the end. Truthfully, if any game deserves a series of movies (4: one for each disk) it is final fantasy 9. Too ba dthey would hire Uwie Bowl to make it though.

[Anonymous No.457062]

>>457043
i'm (i think) about half way through disk two, and while i wouldn't say it's my favorite, i'm loving almost every minute of this game. it's well done, the story is lighter than the previous two while still being serious enough, but broken up with humor to keep things from being too depressing. i don't find myself minding too much being passed around from party to party as the controlling host, and i like how the ability system works in this one, reminds me a lot of tactics, which i love with a passion. all in all, fantastic game, so i have no trouble seeing that it could be someone's favorite.

my personal favorite is IV, and i know that one gets a lot of bashing too for how uncustomizable it is. in the ds version on playthrough 2 and 3 of every game it's pretty good though, you can do some fun customizing stuff with the ability crystals or whatever they are called.

[Anonymous No.457090]

>>457043
It's my favorite too, right before 4.
The thing I hate the most about it, though is synthing items late in the game with low level items you can't purchase anymore. So basically, stocking up on low level items and always have 5-10 of every equipment.

You don't need to do this, but I can't stop myself.

[Anonymous No.457105]

I found out that you could steal from the store in links awakening.

that's just the kid I was a stealing little brat.

[Anonymous No.457119]

The Incredible Hulk was a beat-em up game from Probe Entertainment (Acclaim) for the SNES and Mega Drive.

It was essentially a straight forward side scrolling action beat em up game but there were a myriad of special moves that the Hulk could perform that were not outlined in the manual or any magazine hint book I owned.

I had to figure out the special moves on my own and it was great! I basically tried a few Mortal Kombat moves that I already knew like forward + forward + punch, etc... and got some great moves like one where the Hulk grabs and enemy, rolls them into a ball and throws them across the screen.

If you press A + B + C together (on the Mega Drive controller) you would be able to make Hulk clap, which would break open crates revealing the delicious gamma pills inside to make you stronger along with adding health.

[Anonymous No.457290]

Well, I guess I'd have to say Super Mario Bros. and the ability to restart on the world you died on. I've forgotten how it's done nowadays, but it was handy to know. Honestly, I forget how I figured that out. Maybe a relative? Perhaps I stumbled onto it? I cannot recall.

[Anonymous No.457417]

>>456823
>>456805
>people actually enjoyed tile-hunting

ugh

[Anonymous No.457425]

>>457417
>FUCK EXPLORING!

[Anonymous No.457430]

>>457425
exploring is great, I love Super Metroid

autismally shooting every tile?
not so hot

[Anonymous No.457434]

>Decide to randomly Powerbomb the glass tube in Zero Mission
>It breaks
>I can now go back to Zebes with all the powers I gained on the Space Pirate Ship
That moment was the peak of my life.

[Anonymous No.457445]

>>455440
It actually shows it happen if you watch the demo gameplay of Super Metroid at the title screen.

What I never figured out was how to use Power Bombs to make Samus heal herself.

[Anonymous No.457691]

>>457445
You had to press a button combination when you laid it, and you had to have at least a certain amount of missiles, supers, and pbs, and you had to be under 50 energy with nothing in reserves.
It was kind of too specific a situation.

[Anonymous No.457935]

Mega Man X3, one of the items in Tunnel Rhino's stage.
My brother, a friend, and I were all taking turns playing, trying to get one of the items in the stage. The item was blocked by a boulder suspended from ropes or cords or something. We couldn't figure out how to get the boulder away or removed.

We kept shooting different weapons at it, but they all did nothing. So then, jokingly, I charged-up the Triad Thunder weapon, which, when charged, made X punch the ground to fire the weapon. Reflecting our silly frustrations on X, I fired the charged Triad Thunder, shouting, "I'M SO MAD, I'M GONNA PUNCH THE GROUND!"

And as it turns out, charged Triad Thunder is what you needed to knock the boulder down and out of the way.

We all laughed when that happened.

[Anonymous No.457956]

>>455440
I`m finished japanese version of Brave Fencer Musashiden in my 13 years old. All dat triggers in different daytime. I`ve fought with this game all summer long. Shit was so cash.

[Anonymous No.457958]

Super Metroid. Have only charge and 1 other beam active. Charge, roll into a ball. Uses a power bomb. Felt like a champ when I figured that out

[Anonymous No.457971]

>>456836
That's not theory, that's fact.

Bagu was a mistranslation, though they probably shouldn't have just translated the names literally.

[Anonymous No.457975]

>>457935
That's how you do that?! I remember my cousin owning X3 and we could never figure that out, to this day obviously.
Too bad he sold his games a long time ago in a garage sale to get money for a tamagotchi or something. I've looked up X3 and the price is absurd.
Thanks for the anecdote though anon, it made me happy :-)

[Potcorn !!T75oeUMzdJU No.458064]

>>455440
>Final Fantasy II (US) a.k.a. IV

I don't know if anyone else did this, here's something I did when I was 12:

When Cecil is sent with the spies Palom and Porom to Mt. Ordeals, take a Chocobo to the north mountain behind Ordeals and check every tile. There is one that looks impassable, but (on a chocobo, at least) you can ride right over it and go clockwise around the mountain until you reach the other side.

Monsters from Silveira spawn there. and will give you a FUCK-TON of XP if you kill everyone else but Palom and Porom. The object of the game here is to use the Twin attack. If you die, reload and try again. Once Palom gets Virus, kill Porom, and enjoy power-leveling him until he gets Meteo, the ultimate spell in the game. Then rinse/repeat for Cecil if you so desire, but there was no Dark Wave on the US version, so I kept Palom with me as an insurance policy.

The cool thing about this is that power-leveling Palom enables Rydia to return with every black spell when you get her back in the underworld (including Meteo), making the rest of the game a cakewalk. I haven't tested this on the Japanese version, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.

Also, greetings from /b/.

[Anonymous No.458069]

>>458064
Would that work on the later versions? Specifically the PSP version.

[Anonymous No.458086]

>>456936
>mfw high as fuck level in FF6
>mfw random encounters are harder than final boss

[Potcorn !!T75oeUMzdJU No.458090]

>>458069
Dunno, it's been years. I don't see why not though, unless the maps were edited or some other asshat noticed.

[Anonymous No.458113]

>>456681
How can you say that, mithril was everywhere.

The dwarven town where you actually use the Mithril Is a different story.

[Anonymous No.458116]

mh1 hills and forest
climbing up the waterfall

[Anonymous No.458119]

>>456681
I found that by accident. I used to check everything!

[Anonymous No.458169]

Secret of Evermore.

Hidden Aura spell.

[FinalMasterM !aDUgdVpoUk No.458174]

>Get Water Sword
>Get Water Orb
>Instantly go back to prior town
>Cross the river by freezing it
>Enter the village of the Amazons
>Paralyze the woman, slightly off screen, that is guarding the door before she moves to block it
>Slip in and go around back
>Get the Water Bracelet early, without the Change spell

[Potcorn !!T75oeUMzdJU No.458181]

>>458064
>>458069
Also, honorable mention:
http://risland.thefinalfantasy.com/ff4/summons.shtml

I didn't even know about Bomb or Mage, but Imp and Cockatrice were a BITCH to get on the US version if that means anything.

[Anonymous No.458209]

>>455440
I got stuck when I tried to play Super Metroid, I was going around literally for hours using that x-ray scan in every single room, and never found where to go and gave up.

This would be why.

[Potcorn !!T75oeUMzdJU No.458210]

>>456746
Haha, thanks. I loved Paladin's Quest!

[Anonymous No.458237]

>>457043
I love IX too, it feel more like a return to a more general fantasy style that the "modern" feeling and technology inspired VII and VIII. That may be why so many hated it, VIII is a natural evolution from its predecessor in that even though they're different worlds, you feel that the culture has grown and developed and cars, flying machines and weapons are properly futuristic.

IX in that sense would be a giant step backwards into a more steampunk medieval setting that I imagine put a lot of people off.

I think if you play the game for more than a few minutes you get a depth and story that's fucking miles above the other games. The ending was the first time I felt moved to tears by the characters.

[Anonymous No.458254]

>>458174

I've always wanted to play Crystalis.

Isn't there a GBA version of it out or something?

[Anonymous No.458262]

>>458086
I dunno man, maybe it was just me, but I found him tough as hell on the first play through. The game kinda fucks you over if you don't pay attention to more than your standard favourite party, if you ignore the remaining characters by the time you reach the floating island and then tackle Kefka, the whole "use three characters here, then switch, then again, now the character selection for the boss is random bitch!" will punish you harshly.

Subsequent playthroughs though are far easier.

[FinalMasterM !aDUgdVpoUk No.458273]

>>458254
Play the NES version, it's unanimous that the GBC port not only murdered the game, but is one of the worst ports ever. The story was altered and the audio sounds horrible on it.

[Anonymous No.458275]

>>458064
Wow, it never even occurred to me that Palom might learn Meteo if you (over)level him far enough, and this is basically my favorite game. I guess I'll have to try this one day...

[Anonymous No.458282]

>>458262
And the mad part is, all through the game it's telling you to do this. Your party is split up several times into different groups so you'd think I'd have recognized it was trying to teach me about not being so reliant on the same characters.

[Potcorn !!T75oeUMzdJU No.458291]

>>457043
4, 6, 8, and Mystic Quest, in that order. The rest I could do without.

Then again, I'm in my 30's so that might have something to do with 4 being my favorite.

[Anonymous No.458297]

>>458209

Similar story but I knew the logical place to go would be Maridia so I kept exploring around the wrecked ship and that tube. Eventually I was about to give up and I just started dicking around and laid a power bomb in the tube.

>OH SHIT

I still think that was stupid, nobody would figure that out on purpose.

[Legion of Anon No.458305]

>>456692

I gotta admit, that is pretty badass. Kudos, Anon.

[Anonymous No.458313]

>>458291
I don't believe so, I'm in my 30's too and IX, VIII and VII are my favourites. VI is up there too but I dislike the fourth game to be honest.

[Anonymous No.458329]

>>458064

Whoa, that just awesome.

[Potcorn !!T75oeUMzdJU No.458335]

>>458313
It was my first Final Fantasy game, which I didn't mention because I'm a dumbass. I enjoyed the storyline of 4, 6, and 8 the most BUT that being said, 9 was fun even though I didn't get to finish it because I borrowed it.

I should probably buy a PS2 to play 8 and 9 again.. oh well.

[Potcorn !!T75oeUMzdJU No.458340]

>>458329
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.458342]

>>458273

Cool, I'll give it a shot.

[Legion of Anon No.458357]

>>456807

On a related note for that game, I got sick of paying for wrecked bike charges in RR2, and just ran to the finish line when my bike ran out of health.

I had a police escort when I crossed the line in last place, lol.

Never was able to replicate the results though...dunno why.

[Anonymous No.458353]

Don't tell me you dont.

[Anonymous No.458362]

>>458340

Wish I could do that on the DS version as well, but I take it they removed it. I still have to play it but can't find the motivation

[Anonymous No.458565]

>>458069
As far as I know, this still works on the PSP version. I'm not sure about the DS version though.

[Potcorn !!T75oeUMzdJU No.458673]

>>458362
That sucks :<

[Anonymous No.458961]

>>458291
8?

[Anonymous No.459581]

バンプ

[Anonymous No.459625]

When I was in kindergarten, me and a friend tilted a SMW cartridge, and we managed to be able to play the demo level in the intro, I realize it was playable in the game but we managed to play it right there.

[Anonymous No.459639]

>>459625
shenanigans

[Anonymous No.459653]

>>459625
typed in random password in metal gear 1 - start with 3 rank and a bunch of items

[Anonymous No.460548]

[Anonymous No.460575]

>>456692
>Use emulator and save states to try to reproduce at 20% speed
>Spend 45 minutes trying
>Look up explanation
>It doesn't work in NTSC

[Anonymous No.460612]

Mario RPG niggas
>The person behind the house in Mushroom Kingdom who you never see (supposedly Luigi)
>All those invisible treasure chests
>Getting to Grate Guy's Casino
>Jumping on the spinning girl's head
>Toadstool's ???
I don't know how they placed that stuff in such apparently impossible to find ways, and somehow led you into noticing half of it anyway

>>460548
Is Yoshi enjoying some underwater drain suction?

[Anonymous No.460651]

It took me ages to figure out how to escape Ridley's lair. The exit is just offscreen; you don't blow up a wall or try to find a hole in it with the X-Ray Visor, you just walk right the fuck behind it. That kind of pissed me off. The power bomb part made sense. Also
>Find room full of spikes you're supposed to use the grapple beam to traverse
>Use up all my health jumping on spikes and frozen enemies to get to the end
>Ready for my item to grant me an easy escape from this bitch-ass chamber of darkness
>X-Ray Visor

>>457105
Never show your face again, THIEF

[Anonymous No.460682]

>>460612
no, you can actually hit the piranha plant with an egg before it gets Xbawks Huge magic'd up, which lets you skip the boss fight altogether.