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Inexplicably, this is some of /vr/'s favorite of the classic Resident Evil era, but here's one of my major problems with it:

Why does Carlos know to go to the hospital (or why does the story funnel Carlos into the hospital), with no way of knowing the hospital would have a cure for the infection?

It's funny that if an office building or a warehouse were next door, they'd somehow have the cure for Jill. It's clear that the writers wrote themselves into a corner with infecting Jill as they had no proper way to resolve.

>RE1: There's killer dogs outside, let's figure a way to contact Brad or a different way to get out.
>RE2: I'm a cop you idiot lets go to the police station that'll be safe
>RE3: get infected ??? profit

>> No.4535647

Games sometimes need to override story points. I'm shocked no one mentions why use keys when irl you can kick doors down.

Anyway suspend disbelief like pro wrestling.

>> No.4535648

>caring about the plot in a RESIDENT EVIL game

>> No.4535652

>>4535648
>caring about the plot in a game

>> No.4535654

>>4535652

>caring about video games

>> No.4535660

>>4535654
You went too far. You never go full /v/tard

>> No.4535661

>caring about the plot of a RE game
what do you get out of pretending to be retarded besides (You)s OP?

>> No.4535665
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4535665

Yes, the whole antidote thing is stupid

Have a coolface

>> No.4535667

>>4535635
im almost positive theres a file or some dialogue that says the hospital has a cure before carlos goes there

>> No.4535670
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4535670

Remember when card crusher was good? Well here was the best one.

>> No.4535674

Zombie bites don't turn Jill into a zombie. But the nemesis effects Jill.

The older I get I realize the ps1 invented stuff like that and ludonarrative games.

>> No.4535678

>>4535674
>ludonarrative
stop making up words

>> No.4535682

>>4535678
I did not. Let's talk about the girl in ff7.

>> No.4535683

>>4535670
That is a good one.

>> No.4535686

>>4535674
5th gen was truly the start of modern gaming, I never got why this board included that gen yet at the same time hating on the 6th on when it feels so similar, like a continuation of the same style.

>> No.4535696
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4535696

RE3 is best regardless

>> No.4535702
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>> No.4535708

>>>/v/404135732

>> No.4535715

>>4535686
Yup. Several franchises going 3D , cut scenes p, easy gameplay the norm.

The other future gens only added dlc and online as the norm.

>> No.4535725

>>4535696
Re2 is better. But re4 tries to avoid why most things didn't happen. You can open doors with no keys and there's no zombies that won't infect you.

Anyway one problem is when the boss in re4 wants Ashley alive but his goons try to kill her.

>> No.4535727

>>4535715
As I've said here, gens are pretty close together in pairs
1-2 Classic era (Primitive but fun games)
3-4 Golden era (The high point of games)
5-6 Silver era (A transitional period)
7-8 Modern era (Gayming)

For the record I don't mind 5th gen and Dreamcast being allowed here, it doesn't push aside the rest of the games I'm interested in, I can just ignore the threads I don't care about. Fortunately enough not the whole board is a 5th gen babby endlessly praising storyfag games like MGS or FFVII, as well as overpraising N64's 3D games such as OoT.

>> No.4535731

>>4535727
Modern era is better than anything that came before it, you've just got nostalgia goggles

>> No.4535741

>>4535731
Not really. Most modern entertainment is not as good as old stuff.

50 years from now they won't be games but interactive hologram video novels

>> No.4535743

>>4535725
>Anyway one problem is when the boss in re4 wants Ashley alive but his goons try to kill her.

RE4's plot is full retarded. The main bad guy literally wants Ashley to go back home and yet his goons keep locking her up and trying to kill her, they even shoot down the rescue helicopter, it's literally retarded.

>> No.4535753

>>4535731
Modern era is literally generic shit, most games play the same way.

>> No.4535765 [DELETED] 

Is anyone up for some bestality themed ERP here? I'm well versed playing sissy princess type and taking multiple lizard cocks to my ass. Feel free to hit me up on other threads too! When you see Batowl, you know you're in for hell of ride ;)

>> No.4535769

>>4535765
You seem assblasted

>> No.4535780

>>4535731
I prefer arcade style games so my fucking ass is modern gayming the best era, we're starved of games like that. In the 360 you still got some arcade ports but now, holy shit. And Nex Machina flopped to the point of making its company quit making arcade style games.

>> No.4535795
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>>4535743
That's why I can't bother with ff13. The cutscenes don't match the gameplay.

Most people are dumber now.

>> No.4535869

>>4535795
Oh boy ludonarrative dissonance. You got lost, buddy: >>>/v/

>> No.4535874

>>4535869
That doesn't make sense because that term was invented to mock modern game mostly.

>> No.4535909

>>4535874
It's not, it's the term modern gaymers use when the game's "narrative" doesn't match what you do on it. Like say the protagonist being a pacifist yet you kill stuff. Since then some here have used the term to make fun of these guys, that's true, but it has an unironic origin.

>> No.4535919

>>4535909
Not really, a video game guy made it to bash bioshock yet fags applied to older games which it doesn't count. V people get mad at it.

It's still true.

>> No.4535930

>>4535919
I've seen people use the term seriously and for modern games, anon, but okay.

>> No.4535941

>>4535930
You're not making any sense. Reddit using it wrong doesn't count.

Anyway smb>ff7. Bye.

>> No.4535991

>>4535941
I hate FFVII and I'm on your side, you are misunderstanding me. I'm saying there are idiots that take that ludonarrative dissonance seriously, such as this anon if he isn't falseflagging >>4535795

>> No.4536095

Ludonarrative is real. But it's ok xfiles has 256 canon errors. Bendis hates contuinty. The bible has thousand of written contradictions

>> No.4536105

>>4536095
Great examples of literature, my man.

>> No.4536450

>>4535635
You're absolutely right, OP. Carlos was a shit character that served only to cure the real protagonist and it was so god damn contrived.

>> No.4536478

>>4535743
They don't want her to go back home until the plaga in her has matured, so that they can control it.

>> No.4536480

>>4536478
Yet they still attempt to kill her. Final fights plot is better. I like the re games but plot wide it's loopy.

>> No.4536498

resident evil 2, literally just before i wrote this became 20 years old
anyways, code veronica is the true resident evil 3
re3 felt like a dlc for re2

>> No.4536501

>>4536480
> they still attempt to kill her
When? They try to kill Leon, they try to grab Ashley and carry her away. I don't remember Saddler or any of his generals trying to kill her either

>> No.4536504

>>4536501
The fucking plagas do and many others.

>> No.4536518

>>4536498
And you're correct.
Code Veronica = Originally RE3 project
RE3 = originally a project known as RE1.9, which was just a side story, a spinoff game basically, which is why it doesn't have any gothic themed styled architecture, meanwhile RE1, RE2 and CV all have that aristocratic and gothic design to the buildings.

>> No.4536520

4536504
Maybe they swing at Leon and hit Ashley by accident but they clearly make an effort to grab Ashley and carry her off, and no dialogue or file suggests that they intend to kill her.

>> No.4536523

>>4536520
That's not the point. They attempt to kill her at times.

>> No.4536525

>>4535648
I mean, the plot used to be fairly interesting and the games were tied together pretty well. CV was kind of a weird outlier in the overall plot but then it just completely collapsed with 4 and on.

>> No.4536526

>>4536523
>That's not the point.
Context matters. Otherwise that's just a dumb point to try to make.

>> No.4536529

>>4536525
4 is the best written one. Rest suffer from errors.

>>4536526
Ugh beh

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4536542

>>4536529
>4 is the best written one

>> No.4536545

>>4536529
>Leon fights ogres in Spain
Sure, kid.

>> No.4536547

>>4536542
It's written to mesh with gameplay. Meanwhile the old games are dissected to have things conflicting each other's. Re3 even still has canon errors when flagship made sure not to have canon errors for re2.

>> No.4536553

>>4536545
Zombies bites don't effect old characters. Into turning them zombies. And they're not immune either. You're just biased. Let's not forget Ivy.

Rays Bradbury a sound of thunder has plotholes and do foes back to the future.

I like the games, but they're aren't well written master pieces.

>> No.4536563

>>4536553
Your communication abilties seem on par with someone who I should trust in forming my opinion of a well written game.

>> No.4536591

Storyfags, gtfo

>> No.4536775
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4536775

>>4536518
>Code Veronica = Originally RE3 project
>RE3 = originally a project known as RE1.9, which was just a side story, a spinoff game basically

Here we go again with the lies and false information.

Pic related, the last time RE:CV was ever even mentionned, made public, it was in September and Octobre 1998 to magasine and at Tokyo Game Show. It was ALREADY called "Biohazard: Cove Veronica", pic related. It was never supposed to be "RE3".

There is further proof of that with the fact that "RE3" was first supposed to be on PS2 (in the very first announcements very early on), while the whole reason why CV is even called what it is is so that they could have it on Dreamcast as Capcom had a deal with Sony for 3 main RE games.

You may find magazines that talk about CV calling it "RESIDENT EVIL 3" but that's the same shit as magazines talking abour "Duke Nukem 4" and "Silent Hill 5" when these titles have never existed. It sells better with that on the cover than a title nobody's heard of like "Homecoming", "Forever" or "Code Veronica".

That's where the confusion comes from, that and the fact that both games were developped at the same time.

Officially though, Code Veronica IS the spin off.

Then, bringing the "RE1.9" thing isn't fair. That was only an idea in Mikami's head and his alone, , to make RE3 an add-on for RE2 (not a spin off, an add-on) that nobody else wanted to hear of. You might as well talk shit about RE1 by bringing up all the shit ideas they had during development like making it a FPS or having Cyborgs.

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>>4536775
>the last time RE:CV was ever even mentionned

Shit, I mean the FIRST time it was ever menionnted

I just woke up. Have a gif.

>> No.4537274

>>4535670
Why does he change color? Also he was never green

>> No.4537284

happy birthday resident evil 2! <3

>> No.4538287

just

>> No.4538301

>>4536563
Doesn't override the truth.

>> No.4538641

>>4536553
What fucking shithole are you from?
Also, canonically, none of the characters were ever infected because they never got bit. Only exceptions are Sherry and Jill.
Later on, everybody gets infected and cured, but that's after the series jumped the shark.
>>4536529
>4 is the best written one
Nice job at parroting memes.
RE4 is shit when it comes to writing. If it's an attempt at being campy, it failed as it doesn't feel campy like the classic ones. If it's meant to be taken seriously, it fails because of Saddler's retarded plan, Ada's entire character being changed and Krauser coming out of nowhere.
>>4535731
>he goes to halo nostalgia wank threads

>> No.4538726

>>4535753

I'd erase all retro games from existence in exchange for Yakuza you doublenigger

>> No.4538729

>>4535635
He had a whole 4 days to find it. She was infected on the 27th and then woke at night on October 1.

>> No.4538839

>>4535727
>3d has always been bad
This is autism this is fedora

>> No.4538854

/vr/ Resident Evil is about as far as I liked the story, and even then I'm not sure about CV.

RE4 was fun but that's where the story was full on retarded.

>> No.4538858

>>4538839
That is not what I'm implying, though it's true that I prefer 2D games. 3D gaming just happened to blossom in a transitional period (a shift from arcade-style games to casual/cinematic gaming), NOT that 3D itself was the transition to shit.
I dislike babbyfied modern 2D games just as much.

>> No.4539414

>>4538858
To further my point, in the F-Zero series I greatly prefer the 3D ones, X and GX, even if I still enjoy all the games (SNES and GBA). With X being my favorite N64 game and GX one of my favorite non-retro games of all time.
In general I prefer 2D but I'm not biased here, I just like GAMES and not casual software.

>> No.4540960

Random RE3 fun fact. From Tony Rosato's imdb page (dude who voiced both Nemesis and Dario in RE3):

>In 2005 he was charged with criminally harassing his wife. He spent two years in prison awaiting trial before he was diagnosed with Capgras syndrome, a condition that made him believe his wife and daughter had been replaced by impostors. He was committed to a mental institution.

>> No.4540969

>>4540960
He also died a year ago.

>> No.4541282

>>4540960
>>4540969
Shame, I'm guessing this connects to the reason why Capcom never reused his Nemesis voice in later games?

>> No.4541297

>>4541282
Capcom is real bad at VA consistency

>> No.4541675

>>4536775
LOL at the butthurt Nemesisfags.

Capcom just wanted to keep the numbered series on the PSX, the next gen Resident Evil game was always Code Veronica, it's just that Resident Evil was selling so well on the PSX, that they decided to make a 3rd one.


RE3 not just feels low budget, it is low budget.

>> No.4541697

S: Resident Evil 2002; Resident Evil 3
A: Resident Evil 0
B: Resident Evil 1; Resident Evil 2; Resident Evil : Code Veronica

4 and the rest are crap, weeb faggots.

>> No.4543061

4 is the only good game in this shitty meme series.

>> No.4543103

>>4543061
I'm not even big into RE but you need to go back >>>/v/
You'll have a more fun time there, it's better suited for you.

>> No.4543110

>>4543103
Why would I want to go to a board that doesn't like discussing videogames?

>> No.4543131

>>4543110
Because you don't like them either.

>> No.4543478

>>4535667
not before he gets in there.
him going to the hospital makes sense in general because that would probably have something that could help ease whatever she's feeling, the dumb part is that he happens to find a vaccine.

>> No.4545731
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>>4535635
only ever played the re3 demo on dino crisis as a kid. just found these at goodwill fuck yeah

>> No.4545754

>>4545731
nice catch

disc conditions?

>> No.4545757

I've always wondered this and since you nerds are on my level of nerd perhaps you can assist.
Did Nemesis know that Jill's objective was the cable car? Jill runs around the city for a bit and collects the items necessary to repair the cable car. After leaving the Umbrella office you have a brief encounter with Nemesis, but he disappears when you get back to the shops. Once you head through the gate to city hall and turn left, Nemesis reappears!!! In what appears to be an effort to stop you from getting to the cable car. What do you guys think? We know Nemesis has pretty good motor control (can aim a rocket launcher) but can he deduce Jill's objective from her actions around the city?

>> No.4545764

>>4545731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kcF7E69C6Q

>> No.4545765

>>4545757
As a wise man once said
Jill leaves a trail of bodies, bullets and explosions behind her. You'd have to be blind, deaf and possibly dead not to find her

>> No.4545781

>>4545764
There is literally nothing wrong with this track. It sounds ridiculous on its own but it fits the scene in context.

>> No.4545879

>>4545764
yeah I've heard bad things about this version but it was much cheaper than the ebay price. i have the remake but I think I still play this one for my first playthrough

>> No.4546002

>>4545781
That's absolutely wrong.

https://youtu.be/LI7UIPcC6w8?t=1h10m13s

>> No.4546008

>>4546002
The original music for comparison:

https://youtu.be/HUF8QHpwzNQ?t=2h9s

>> No.4546012

>>4546002
Sounds fine, shut up.

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>>4546012

>> No.4546795

>>4535647
>why use keys when irl you can kick doors down.

>leaving tons of open doors so more zombies and creatures can sniff you out

Also I'd imagine it's because of the limitations of using pre-rendered backgrounds.

>> No.4546865

>>4535635
Yeah, it's pretty retarded that he'd go to the hospital to find something to cure an infection. That's almost as stupid as when Jill went to the auto shop/gas station to find oil. Video game logic is so dumb.