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4529431 No.4529431 [Reply] [Original]

When will these prices start combing down again? I feel like youtube plays a huge part in the increase over the last 5 years.
>https://www.pricecharting.com/page/price-index-details

>> No.4529432

Collecting hidden gems is pricey.

>> No.4529449

>>4529432
This.
Also collectors are usually happy when their investments appreciate with time. Wanting prices to drop is a good sign you're not wanting to be a real collector, you probably just want to play the games. To which there is good news, for there are several much cheaper options available.

Of course if you are a collector then this is a good time to be buying and selling and watching your collection appreciate. So it's really a win win situation any way you look at it.

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>>4529431
>combing down

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>>4529432
>$60-80 with the map.

>> No.4529456

>>4529431
They wouldn't, people STILL think that thinks go in circles and go back down, when these things actually just go one direction, its a one way street.

>> No.4529460

>>4529454
Yeah it's hard to be bitching about how pricey things have become when they're still mostly under original retail price.

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4529481

>>4529449
This. It's all good.

If you just want a bunch of games to decorate your shelves with, buy 6th and 7th gen games or my new wall-decor I have coming out this summer. 7/16ths the nerd cred at 1/512th the price!

>> No.4529490

Has interest in original NES gone down over the past few years? I'm wondering if it will go the way of 2nd gen consoles and be deemed "too old" for modern collectors.

>> No.4529498

>>4529490
If Switch had bombed and taken Nintendo down then maybe, after five or ten more years but it looks like Nintendo will be keeping those IPs relevant for years to come. A lot of people thing things like Classic Mini consoles drive down prices and they probably do in a limited, short term way like for Earthbound but ultimately they actually push them up by keeping the platforms relevant.

>> No.4529504

>>4529456
>baseball cards
>Elvis memorabilia

>> No.4529510

>>4529449
Worst part is when you buy things to preserve them (undumped) but have to compete with people who just buy shit to watch it "appreciate."

>> No.4529514

>>4529460
You're actually wrong.

>> No.4529537

>>4529504
Those are niche items. Video games are more like comic books.

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>>4529498
I've been wonder though. All of my most-valuable NES games have actually gone down in price over the past year. Maybe it's a general shift toward collecting "hidden gems" instead of the big ticket games.

>> No.4529547

>>4529431
You have a finite supply that's slowly degrading, and a demand that as of now only seems to be increasing. Maybe in 40 years when all of us people who grew up with them start dying off, but for now, don't expect it any time soon at fucking all.

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>>4529538
There will be ups and downs but overall they'll continue to appreciate in the long term I assure you. Although as trends go at this point, you might consider turning those few very rare games into a more diversified collection. Uncommon games are likely to appreciate more (relatively) than the very rare games for the next few years. I think the cause is that as the hobby becomes more widely known, more of the very rare games get discovered. With something like Bubble Bobble 2, just a handful of copies turning up can noticeably effect the value while uncommon games are more consistent and more directly represent market trends.

>> No.4529572

Once people stop wanting to buy them.

>> No.4529614

>>4529537
>baseball is niche
What? WHAT?
The second richest professional sports league on the planet is niche?
The FUCK is wrong with you?

>> No.4529624

>>4529537
Video games are niche

>> No.4529628

>>4529431
>>4529431
Lots of people who collected end up selling their shit at a loss
U just gotta be ready to buy a lot at once

>> No.4529629

>>4529514
I'm actually not at all. And if you use their lowest sales prices ever as your mark of what a "proper" price should be then you're a complete retard.

Please don't take this as me discouraging you from making these threads and whining about being poor though. The tears of idiots are like delicious candy to me.

>> No.4529630

>>4529614
He meant niche compared to when baseball was popular enough that cards were worth a lot. If you're of the age, you would remember what baseball being a big deal was actually like.

>> No.4529671

>>4529614
>>4529624
Video games are a medium that is collectible, like comics or vinyl or laserdiscs. Sports cards are an artificial token created specifically to be collected and played with, a hobby that fantasy sports has completely crushed. The market for actual sports memorabilia is fine.

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>>4529504
>>baseball cards

The market is probably healthier than ever for pre-late-1970ish cards and memorabilia. The famed 1952 Topps Mantle was worth around 40K in mint condition during the 80s-90s "peak." A graded NM is worth 135K, with mint grades going into 7 figures.

The baseball card market that crashed was the one all of us 80's American kids collected for, those overproduced 80's and 90's Topps, Fleer, Upper Deck sets with a fuckton of inserts. Not helping matters was that the majority of great players during that era were the subject of steroid scandals. I remember when an ungraded McGwire 85 rookie reached 1500 during his record chase. That card is worth like 10.00 now. Lol.

>> No.4529903

>>4529431
When bandwagoners like you stop asking this question

>> No.4529907

>>4529431

You can never really predict these things, but I foresee a temporary dip as collectors who are in their 30s who were collecting hardcore a decade ago sell of their collections as they start families, businesses, whatever. Won't be any kind of crash, but prices might dip a bit.

Long term, prices will keep going up. There's a limited supply, enough demand, and the objects in question do have intrinsic historical, aesthetic, and technological value, so those thinking that the "boom" is a product of Gen-X/Millennial nostalgia are wrong (ex. a 40 year old car collector has zero nostalgia for a Model T (or a Stanley Steamer or a Benz), but he would sure love to own an original Model T because he's passionate about automotive history and technology). As long as videogames are a relevant cultural phenomenon, there will always be a demand for its historical objects, no matter the generation.

>> No.4529994

>>4529907

I wish we could sticky this to the rules and ban anyone who asks about bubbles and market crashes. These are the least productive threads on /vr/ and that's saying something with the amount of shitposts we get.

>> No.4530006

>>4529907
One thing I noticed about classic cars is that nostalgiafags are usually white trash who just want to restore whatever they had sex in the back seat of when they were 17. Richfags like Jay Leno collect cars of all eras, shapes, and sizes.

>> No.4530010

>>4529431
"All Vintage Games" is such a broad category that I'd say this chart is entirely useless.

>> No.4530014

>>4529892
I'm pretty sure the latter is what he was talking about, dude. The market for pre-80s cards has never really gone down, but that's only half the conversation.

>> No.4530024

>>4529504
>Elvis memorabilia
???

>> No.4530130

>>4530014
At least when video games jumped the shark the distributors had the decency to offer no illusions that the money modern gamers are spending on Steam and Apple Store and Google Play and GOG is actually buying them anything that'll ever be worth anything.

>> No.4530171

>>4530130
Like arcades you just pay for the fun. Not also the plastic and chips.

>> No.4530175

>>4530171
I own five arcade cabinets. That's my response to that.

>> No.4530180

>>4530175
You're a very unusual case, that's my response.

>> No.4530226

>>4529892
It may be the golden era for buying 80s baseball cards though, as nobody wants them. It's like buying SNES games for $1 a pop in 2003. Don't cry if the price goes up again in a decade or two.

t. not an American

>> No.4530232

>>4529431
When people stop making threads once a month about this topic.

>> No.4530248

>>4529431
I own over 60 GB, GBC and GBA games. Where should I sell them?

>> No.4530256

Take the Atari pill and price problems go away. It satisfies the hoarding tangible stuff drive, while emulation can cover anything to pricey well enough. Intellivision an shit are also worthy. That generation of games has been so badly slagged by e-celebs that it may never go up much in value, other than rarities like Vectrex.

>> No.4530296

>>4529431
Around 20 years. Then we will have new shit that costs that much.

Prices are only high now because of people who grew up with this shit finally being able to afford everything they wanted to younger hipsters seeing that as "cool" and wanting on it.

>> No.4530325

>>4530256
This. I've been collecting 2nd gen stuff quite a bit these last couple years. Mostly because I enjoy the pick up and play arcade nature of the games but also because they're fucking dirt cheap. For the price or maybe 10 or so uncommon and sought after NES or SNES games I've been able to builp up these awesome collections of carts for the 2600/7800, Intellivision, Atari 8-bit, Vic 20, TI-99/4a, Odyssey 2 and whatever else most folks into retro aren't interested in. Bulk lots of 20-30 games for under 50 bucks aren't hard to find at all.

>> No.4530350

>>4530296
>Prices are only high now because of people who grew up with this shit finally being able to afford everything they wanted
This meme is as old as the hills.

>> No.4530427

>>4530350
A more exact analysis would be: the people who grew up with it now have the means to pay more for each game, and as they all compete with each other on a limited market, the price goes up.

>> No.4530475

>>4530256
>Take the Atari pill and price problems

Indeed. Underrated generation as a whole (Atari, Intellivision, Coleco, etc). You could make the argument that the Atari arcade conversions that play well (not Pac-Man) are actually better gameplay wise than the arcade versions since those ports typically have like 10 different game modes. If you're a score attacker purist, I understand only wanting to play the arcade original, but Atari ports have a lot to offer for more casual players looking for a pick-up-and-play game or something a bit different from the arcade original. .

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>>4530427
You're basically saying the games in question are objectively crap and people only buy them to LARP as their 10 year old self.

Noice.

>> No.4530482

>>4530481
>You're basically saying the games in question are objectively crap
Literally where lol

>and people only buy them to LARP as their 10 year old self
Not my point

>> No.4530483 [DELETED] 

Some people collect things to LARP as their 10 year old selves, this is true. I never considered them real collectors though.

>> No.4530487

>>4530481
Then why do I feel zero or very little nostalgia for 5th gen games although I was 10 in that period?

>> No.4530494

>>4530487
This, youngfags can't understand that we were not in love with everything just because we were young.

>> No.4530497

>>4529514
Nah, he's not. Most games are dirt cheap (sub-$20), and the "hiddun jemz" are generally in the $40~80 range. There are exceptions, you have stuff like Team Buddies on PS1 that can run $250~300 or a lot of rare Sega Saturn games, not to mention the odd Little Samson-type game which is ludicrously priced, but by and large, older games are cheaper than they were at release (not accounting for the fact they aren't new, of course).

>> No.4530504

>>4530497
And when you take inflation into account... your $60 are "cheaper" than 1994 $60.

>> No.4530507

>>4529481
Is this a sticker for on your door? It's fucking disgusting.

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Surprised no one has posted /vr/ prices bingo image yet. My local bookstore still sells 2600 games for $3.30USD each.

>> No.4530662

>>4530507
It is indeed

>> No.4530676

Prices won't plummet like people hope they would.
They'll slowly decrease starting from about 15 to 20 years from now. Maybe less. Which is when the generation who gives a fuck about them will slowly start to die and interest will start to fade. Then only the true rare stuff will still be worth money because of rarity.

>> No.4530735

>>4529431
YouTube content creators follow trends, anon. Retro video game content creators are getting more popular because people are becoming more interested in retro gaming in recent years. It's practically a normie hobby at this point.

I would argue that the YouTube channels you're thinking of are only around because of the increase in interest for retro games, and not the other way around.

If you could provide a specific example of a game that had a significant increase in price only after being mentioned by a YouTuber, please share it with me. I could be totally wrong.

I don't think the prices are going to be coming down any time soon. Maybe when our generation starts dying off, since people younger than us won't have any nostalgia for these old ass games.

>> No.4530737

>>4530676
>Which is when the generation who gives a fuck about them will slowly start to die and

Right, >>4530481

>> No.4530770

>>4530662
Lol I wouldn't be surprised if garbage like you really did put something like that up.

>> No.4530826

>>4530735
Not OP, but I used to play a game where I would pick an e-celeb video, then check the price chart on vgpc and see if there was an effect. 85%-90% of all games reviewed saw a price jump immediately after airing, and very few have gone back to pre-review prices. Game Grumps, AVGN, they actually DO have an effect on the prices of the games they cover. It's more easily noticeable on common games that don't cost much. Contra practically doubled in price thanks to one of the e-celebs.

>> No.4530831

>>4530826
There's really nothing surprising or bad about that.

>> No.4530839

>>4530735
Not him but I'll give a few examples:

Little Samson: became infamous because of Gaming Historian
Hagane on SNES: was featured on an episode of MetalJesusRocks, other youtubers like CGR and Mike Matei from Cinemassacre rolled along with the urban myth that Hagane was a Blockbuster exclusive (which turned out to be bullshit, check out SNESdrunk's review just as an example).
Speedrunning events like Games Done Quick made games like Tomba/Tombi, Trip World and Magical Pop'n expensive.
Gimmick got a review by Pat the NES Punk.

I'm sure there are many other examples if you're looking for. Sometimes it's because Nintendo themselves highlighted some of their (back then) more obscure games because of Smash Bros. Earthbound and Fire Emblem are a few examples.

Also, Virtual Console being a thing and youtube reviewers like AVGN putting such a focus on the older Nintendo days combined with an almost deadly dose of nostalgia of millenials (the ones who grew up on NES and SNES, not the Gen Z kids who get that label nowadays) and tons of retrospectives by "gaming journalists" and copious re-releases by companies like Nintendo .. are all a few reasons why demand for most of those games have risen in the first place. When you take the fact that most kids and teenagers were poor and couldn't afford to buy most of these games back then and weren't content with emulation or still want to have a physical copy because of its emotianal value for the owner. Oh and talking about emulation, ever noticed how emulation for NES and SNES has been relatively good and there being much more expensive games for those consoles while the N64 still has crappy emulation and therefor cheaper games for it on an average basis?

There are a lot of reasons why retro prices, especially nintendo, have become what they are now and sorry for OP and other people who wish for them to be cheap again: that will NEVER happen. If price is an issue then feel free to emulate or use flashcarts instead.

>> No.4530843

If prices are high, it's because you retards don't have a self-imposed limit on what you're willing to pay for things.

>> No.4530863

>>4530770
My personal library is in excess of 3,000 books now with the inheritance of my father's.

It's funny when trolls not only fail to recognize obvious satire but additionally know so little about me, whom they supposedly hate so much.

>> No.4530872

>>4530843
>If prices are high, it's because you retards don't have a self-imposed limit on what you're willing to pay for things.

But that's your personal perceived value.
I guess I'm a big jew.

For the YouTube cunts, you can't argue that the ease in ability to see those rare gems getting played and hyped, wasn't responsible. Which is fine, I'm just saying you can't count out YouTube for being directly responsible.

Still remember almost $15 years ago, I'm standing in line at GameStop when they were still taking in NES for 1 cent a game no matter the title.

>> No.4530886

>>4530863
That's what makes it more sad. You don't appear on the surface as a complete idiot, yet your support of a bigoted con artist destroying the environment and trying to start nuclear war has shaken my long held trust in the process of democracy. You are literally dangerously stupid, but it has helped open my eyes to how real the threat is.

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>>4530886
>/vr/ - Retro Games
>>>/pol/

>> No.4530894

>>4530892
Yeah I decided to take the hammer today and don't really care. You're raising your children to be dinosaurs in a world that moves forward wheter you want it to or not. Progress always wins and deep down, you know and can feel it.

Enjoy smugness while you can.

>> No.4530897

>>4530894
>t.coastie

>> No.4530901

>>4530886
>>bigoted con artist destroying the environment and trying to start nuclear war has shaken my long held trust in the process of democracy.
this is like when people called obama a "marxist" lol

>> No.4530904

>>4530897
That you seriously feel no shame over the horror yoy have wrought is why I think you are genuinely sub human.

>> No.4530908

>>4530901
Except he is literally an incredibly bigotted racist, he's a pathological liar and if you're too stpuid to see how he's also a con man then you're also part of the problem.

>> No.4530913

>>4530904
You'll understand when you're older

>> No.4530916

>>4530908
the thing is, he hasn't fucked up anything as bad as obama did, yet. stop watching the damn daily show kiddo. i don't buy into right wing politics at all but you're the one getting sucked into the bullshit theater. probably enough politics yelling for this thread.

>> No.4530917

>>4530913
That would work better if I wasn't older than you. We're very close in age though and more of what makes your actions and attitude so reprehensible.

>> No.4530919

>>4530916
You have not been paying attention and I don't watch comedy news shows.

>> No.4530924
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>>4530917
There are two places you can be in this world. You can be here like us or you can be there... Like them. If you waste your time hemming and hawing, then someone else is gonna
make that choice for you. Except you wont know it until you feel that bolt between your eyes.

>> No.4530927

>>4530924
You see, you almost get it. For some nice light reading this afternoon, pick up some of the books your pappy left you and read up what happens to the sheep who help elect corrupt aspiring dictators into office.

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>>4530927

>> No.4530937

>>4530934
If you're implying I am or support aristocracy you're even stupider than I thought you were five minutes ago.

>> No.4530960

>>4530937
What you are is a spoiled child, however old you are. You are suckled on the teat of a social system that you take for granted, indeed feel entitled to. You believe what your mommy tells you because it makes you feel good and you ignore the realities of the world outside the layers of protection you so desperately want to tear down. You are the rot that collapsed the Roman empire and plunged the world into darkness.

>> No.4530980

>>4530960
I was indeed given support that helped me in my early years and now makes me part of a thriving community which supports others. I feel no entitlement, I know every step of progess is hard but it's always been worth in.

If you want to go back to drinking lead infested wine at gladiatorial gore fests all day so be it. Rome needed to burn. So do you and yours to be truly honest.

>> No.4530992

>>4530980
Enjoy your commune. Those things always work out great.

>> No.4531070

>>4530992
Communes are also flawed and outdated. Not surprising that's where your imagination ends. It's okay though, as stated I've come to not expect any more from you.

>> No.4531078

>games for specific consoles are only expensive because it's what the current collectors grew up with.

I grew up with atari 2600, NES, and Genesis. I primarily collect for PS1 and original Xbox. Why would I collect for consoles I already played too much of?

>> No.4531084

>>4531070
While your imagination clearly knows no bounds since you seem to believe the greatest threat to your life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is the POTUS.

>> No.4531095

>>4530992
Also to be clear, this isn't just progress vs conservativeness. I didn't agree with anything Bush did in response to 9/11 and I think it made the world worse. But I don't think for a moment he didn't think he was doing what was right, and the same for his followers.

But Trump is completely different, an insipid pathological liar and is almost following a textbook for how to become a dictator. And though I sympathize with people who didn't like Clinton and her corruption and were duped initally into voting for him, anyone who still supports him given his track record over this whole shithouse of a year is subhumanly stupid and dangeous to the future of the world.

I hope as you poltards fear that his ousting leads to civil war. You, like all supporters of people like him need to be pruned for the good of the future of humanity and the world.

>> No.4531103

>>4531084
Given what he's doing to environmental regulations during a critical tipping point smack in the middle of one of Earth's greatest extinction? Yes he and his supporters are a real danger.

>> No.4531132

>>4530960
never thought I'd agree with the eternal tripfag, but here we are

anyway, prices do come down when games get re-released. You have to remember that normies are too stupid to run computer programs or download files. So emulation is out of the question for them. Although games that don't emulate well do tend to go up in value.

>> No.4531136

>>4531095
You have that little faith in Democracy it's pathetic. It is literally impossible for a president to become a dictator other than through means that definitely need not involve a war on the press or whatever it is that you're up in arms about at this particular moment.

When and if Trump does something impeachable he'll be impeached and if that impeachment results in his ouster conservatives will accept that and be perfectly content with Pence but Trump is a long, long way from any impeachable action. The Mueller investigation is just a political exercise just like the Star investigation was. American action in Syria and Turkey (and DPRK) make it abundantly clear there's no collusion with Russia

>>4531103
Yeah, see. This is what you have the luxury to be the most worried about and you probably talk shit about privilege.

inb4 all of MY posts are deleted by partisan jannies leaving only the completely unprovoked off-topic attack I resisted responding to for as long as I possibly could.

>> No.4531143

>>4529431
I've been selling games at cons for the past couple years and I can say overall you can say prices have gone up but a lot of stuff also went down.
When it comes to NES or SNES we're at a weird point where people are just trying to finish their sets so dumbass rare games nobody wanted to begin with are skyrocketing. Stuff like Fievel Goes West and Shien's Revenge come to mind.
More "expensive" games like Earthbound, Dracula X or Ninja Gaiden Trilogy are staying steady or decreasing because all the people that would spend that much already own them and the market for that expensive of games is smaller than you think.
Sega shot up for a while because people wanted to get games complete for cheap but now since they were all daytripping Nintendo fans the prices shot up, nothing sold for a while and everything dropped down again. A year ago I sold a complete Ys III for 100 and now you can't get rid of it for over 75, hell I sold a complete Sparkster for around 160 and the price dropped to around 100 this year. People only wanted the stuff when it was cheaper.
Master System is something you can't even give away unless it is complete.
Nintendo 64 and Gamecube overall seems to have the biggest growth in interest and price.
Yes, a Conkers Bad Fur Day is cheaper then it was but there isn't a con I bring n64 stuff and have any of it left. It always sells.
Dreamcast, like Playstation 1 people only want complete. Dreamcast you got more of a shot to sell stuff but Playstation 1 you gotta cut some serious deals to see any of it go.
So it seems to me that the cheaper games have risen in price, but not dramatically while the more expensive stuff is teetering off.
I think it's because of new retro fans that grew up with stuff like N64, Dreamcast and Gamecube buying up all that stuff, occasionally dipping into older stuff with a Retron or something. The market is just shifting towards newer stuff.

>> No.4531147

>>4531136
>This is what you have the luxury to be the most worried about

You need to burn.

>> No.4531160

>>4531147
MY climate remains temperate, perhaps even slightly more pleasant the last few years. Maybe you should move out of California.

>> No.4531196

>>4531160
Stop fucking namefagging. Please. You claim the whole reason you do is to contribute "quality posts" but every single time you namefag people just bitch about it and the thread gets derailed. There habr been plenty of threads where discussion was going along fine until you posted and then the whole thing turns to shit just like this thread. You can talk all you want about "that's not my problem, the anons are the ones who get mad about it, I don't start shit" but the fact is there wouldn't be any of this happening if you just stopped namefagging and went anon like everyone else. Contrary to what you seem to think, the board is not any better because of your name being on your posts. All it does is turn perfectly good threads into shitflinging about YOU. If you want to be some kind of forum superstar then go to atariage. I'm begging you, and this isn't the first time, just stop namefagging.

>> No.4531205

>>4531160
Your proud parade of your ignoance is utterly disgusting. I could almost forgive your other sins, bit this is one of the things that puts you in dangerous territory.

>> No.4531218

>>4531196
Hes got a point dude

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Just remember to always try and get the best price at auction. "Buy it now"'s are jackasses who ask for way too much.

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I never thought I would see the day, where two fucking people are having a political discussion on /vr/. Can you stop? Why don't you two swap emails so you can fling shit at each other that way, instead of shitting up this thread.

>> No.4531251

>>4530248
Swap meets or cons

>> No.4531253

>>4531245
The irony of your pic is we're both married farts.

>> No.4531254

>>4530248
Informative post but inaccurate. Those games became known bc of specified rarity. I know nothing of most of the people you listed, as is the case with hardcore collectors over 30

>> No.4531289

>>4531236
I've seen a lot of auctions end at considerably higher prices than equivalent or even better BINs. Collectors operate on a level far beyond my comprehension.

>> No.4531319

>>4531245
i'm married but one of the moms of the kids at my sons daycare has star wars tattoos.
99% sure she secretly wants my D

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>> No.4531342

>>4530175

Gramps, what cabinets do you have?

I have a Joust, Joust 2, a Sega Astro City candy cab and Raiden 1, 2, DX, Fighters 1, 2, Jet, and Viper Phase 1. The Raiden and related are PCB only that I use in the candy cab.

>> No.4531358

>>4531328
RADICAL REGDIE HERE MY MAn *let do BRO FITS* HERe TOP TeN HiDdEN GEm OF WONDERSTWAN I BOUgHSt ALL THESE RARE ExPENSIvDES GAMEs FoR 10 DOllAR On CRIGLiST BUt DuDe I TOTALLY PLAY ThEm EVERYDAY IN My EBID ManCABVE GAME ROOM

>> No.4531368

>>4530735

One I know that has had this effect is MetalJesusRocks. He even jokes about it and refuses to give the prices of games in his "hidden gem" videos now. Same thing for racketboy, they list "hidden gems" and then people know about them and seek them out. Usually hidden gems are low production (at least compared to mega hits) so it make the problem worse.

People like collecting things ala pokemon, so getting all the hidden gems in a list or video triggers this urge. 20 games is a chunk that most people could realistically try to collect, so they do.

>> No.4531386

>>4531358

I just tried to hit subscribe and thumbs up, but I can't find the buttons in your post. Why is it always so hard to find quality content like this?

>> No.4531438

>>4531342
The Combatribes 3 player, a Bally Sente that's undergone a few conversions and was a WWE Wrestlefest but I plan to make my MAME/Generic cab, a CPS1 with SF2:TWW, a Vs Unisystem with Hogan's Alley and a 3 monitor NinjaWarriors that I would love to find a Darius 3/Sagaia kit for.

>> No.4531451

>>4531438

Nice. You should try Outfoxies on your mame setup. I looked into a PCB but they were STUPID expensive. It plays great on mame though.

Darius 3 is the one with the ridiculously wide screen IIRC. That would be epic, even if it wasn't a real pcb and fed with mame.

>> No.4531464

>>4531451
I'd have to have three video cards though

>> No.4531471

>>4531464

Ah, makes sense. I had an arcadevga board in my mame machine while it was working (i need to get it going again but I'm lazy). I know it stretched the game out on the one monitor so it was wide with huge black bars on top and bottom. I didn't really think how it would work with 3 monitors.

There is a steam version of one of the darius games, works good on multiple monitor setups. I have a triple monitor setup, it's pretty fun but to be honest I've not played it enough to tell if it's worth a damn in the long run.

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>>4531471
Maybe once I finish my Sente conversion. If I had a 3 monitor MAME then I could build pic related... Minus the force feedback, probably. Damn. This was my jam back before I could actually drive.

>> No.4531865

>>4531464
>thinks you need 3 cards for 3 displays
wew lad

>> No.4531873

>>4531865
Is there some other way to get 3x15khz RGB signals for the monitors in my enclosure? I guess some compatible cards probably have a vga and a dvi-i port on them but I have no idea if the drivers support it.

>> No.4531902

>>4529454
It's gotten that expensive now? Glad I picked up a copy a couple years ago.

>> No.4532194

>>4531873
There are many ways. It could be a simple as not hiding video modes on a triplehead.

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>>4531245
>30 year old space movies
Nah that's lame. Now 43 year old space cartoons on the other hand

>> No.4532250

>>4529431
prices will probably go up and down for a long time in the future.

of course youtubers play a role, people want to play games they've been convinced to play.

the hobby was very cheap and fun in the late 90s and early 2000s (at that time i myself was interested in collecting not just retro games but VHS and LP records and 8 track because of the cheapness and the nonstalgia)

You can blame over arching factors all you want, the truth is that retro games today are in the same position as comic books were in the late 70s and through the 80s.

A class of people wanting to relive their childhood are now collecting items that were mostley discared (hence the desire for boxes and manuals driving the price up even more) to relive their child hood moments. these adults now have the disposible income to drive up prices, i do not beleive we have yet entered a speculator bubble (brillantly illustrated through the recent crypto currency fiasco) but we will.

the real question is why can't you settle for flash carts to help you "experience" the same feeling of playing these games when they were realised and why you feel the need to fill your life with the actual "honest" media.

it doesnt make the play experience more real.

it only fuels your childhood dreams, and lets be honest that doesnt make you feel happy or engaged it only makes you want more

>> No.4532254

>>4530863
>It's funny when trolls not only fail to recognize obvious satire but additionally know so little about me
I haven't been browsing as much of /vr/ as I used to but most people seem to ignore you, like they should for a tripfag. You seem to think people need to know who you are, when that goes completely against the strengths of an anonymous website.

>> No.4532259

>>4532250
just to add a bit.

This week I spent $25 on copy of turbo for the colecovision because im not ready to spent money on a flash cart and i want to experience the driving module i got with my colecovision.

2 months ago i bought a copy of dodonpachi for $95 on the saturn because all the rom dumps on the net dont seem to work properly went burnt and i wanted to play this game.(tested on 3 japanse saturns)

I actually love the hobby and do spend money on it but if i can burn or flash cart I will do it every time, although this leads to a new media "burnout" where you can't decide what to play.

The world is changing and as much as it breaks my heart this "great retro deals at thrift stores" idea is no longer valid.

As an old man, i have to tell you that life only gives you two choices as you age.

you must change or die

>> No.4532274

>>4532259
also as a conservatioanlist i must say our biggest role as retro gamers now is learning to preserve and fix CRT tvs.

CRTs are our only way to enjoy these old games and the art of fixing these tvs is dying.

CRT disposal is a big problem, there are warehouses full of CRTS that we cannot dispose of in a way to help our society.

in saying that LCD tvs are worse and harder to dispose, when we have another "great leap forward' we will be stuck figuring out how to not polute our land worse.

IF you really want to do your part for retro gaming than learn to recap and maintain CRTs (most of the guys who know how to do this are in their 60s now) so we can enjoy this hobby for another 100 years.

No one in the technology field has any interest in learning the old ways and its lead to the fact that we keep building code on top of code and this is why i can try to load a webpage on my iphone (nothing but text and pics) and it takes 2-3 minutes to load, script on top of script.

our information technology is leading us to a place where we will continue to build on top of existing architecure no one understands and its like painting on top of paint inside of a room instead of stripping paint and painting on the boards

>> No.4532279

>>4532274
Recapping CRTs isn't the problem, it's that the electron guns and phosphor degrade with use. The guns actually are't too hard to replace but phosphor especially on color tubes is a different story.

>> No.4532297

>>4532250
>A class of people wanting to relive their childhood are now collecting items that were mostley discared (hence the desire for boxes and manuals driving the price up even more) to relive their child hood moments. these adults now have the disposible income to drive up prices

This I don't entirely believe. That was more of a baby boomer thing.

>> No.4532386

>>4532297
>>4532279
>replying to a namefag
I sure hope...

>> No.4532687

>>4532297
It was an effect first noticed with boomers, but it continues.

>> No.4532689

>>4532687
Most Millenials are dirt ass poor and wouldn't even have the money to own a house let alone indulge in frivolous hobbies like this.

>> No.4532693

>>4532689
That's because most millenials are still relatively young. But also there are a lot of very well off 20 and 30 somethings these days.

>> No.4532697

>>4532297
The unique thing about baby boomers is that they're smug as fuck and have been told since childhood that they're the most important generation ever and the entire world revolves around them.

>> No.4532702 [DELETED] 

>>4532297
Besides, no matter how many old toys you have, you're still not 8 years old, you're a 45 year old wageslave who has to pay your ex-wife alimony.

>> No.4532704

>>4532687
I'm not seeing it. I don't see where there's this entire vast horde of 30 year olds with six figure salaries buying all this crud to LARP as their childhood self.

>> No.4532729

>>4532704
Well maybe that's where you're confused. This is just old shitty toys. You don't need that much money. Even now retro gaming is a super cheap hobby compared to most.

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>>4530826
>top shop just was $5 canadian
>game grumps video
>now its like $35
I was gonna get it too
Has this happened to you are all /vr?

>> No.4532760

>>4532704
>>4532748
You don't have to spend much time in the old game market to realize that the majority of people buying this shit are both impulsive and dumb as stumps.

>> No.4532765

I would not pay hundreds of dollars for a game especially not a relatively common one and I would not sell one for that price either. That's just dishonest.

>> No.4532784

>>4532194
Nah, regular drivers don't go down to 15khz and you also need analog outputs. Can you suggest some video cards that have three analog outputs? If so, I might check to see if there are 15khz drivers for them

>>4532254
If people are going to make personal attacks against me, they should probably know something about me or else it's pretty pointless don't you think? Also aren't you going against your own advice just by engaging in this meta discussion with me?

>>4532704
You should goon some facebook groups or I presume reddit, just to see some of these dudes.

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>>4532386
>noko
>namefag

>> No.4533463

>>4532748
Not retro but I bought a complete copy of Little Red Riding Hood's Zombie BBQ sometime in late 2015/early 2016 for about 20 bucks. Metal Jesus mentioned it in a video and now it's $100+. I can't stand that fucking guy.

>> No.4533632

>>4532693
>most millenials can't spell millennials
Top kek kid

>>4532697
Projecting pretty hard there sport. The smug as fuck generation as you described it is (Y ou). Pretty sure you know fuck all about your boomer great gran.

>> No.4533743

>>4529892
So who actually bought baseball cards back when they were being sold in stores?

Did normies actually obsess over the batting averages and other statistics of semi-famous athletes?

Or was it a more traditional time when autists were forced into sports and were given these cards to hold their interest while the other kids engaged in mindless smalltalk before practice started?

>> No.4533794

>>4532704
>I'm not seeing it. I don't see where there's this entire vast horde of 30 year olds with six figure salaries buying all this crud to LARP as their childhood self.

STEM graduates are all making at least 60 to 85k a year. Add in a spouse and the household income is at least 6 figures.

>> No.4533797

>>4532729
>Well maybe that's where you're confused. This is just old shitty toys. You don't need that much money. Even now retro gaming is a super cheap hobby compared to most.

yeah, traditional hobbies like boating or car restoration or wood work are much more expensive.

>> No.4533803

>>4533463
>Little Red Riding Hood's Zombie BBQ sometime in late 2015/early 2016 for about 20 bucks. Metal Jesus mentioned it in a video and now it's $100

wha...t?

>> No.4533807

>>4532729
What a meaningless observation.

>> No.4533813

>>4533743
kids got them for the gum.

Some kids would build little fake teams and shit.

I hear of one kid standing them up and flipping marbles across them to pretend a baseball game.

Eh, they were just a cheap thing for kids to own in a time when parents didn't buy their kids all the time.

Also, originally they were intended for adults. If you go back far enough, they used to pack cards of all types in with products. There is a story of a wife who wasted her husband's entire check to collect things things. They were called something that rhymes with premiums.

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>>4533803
I don’t know when Metaljesus did the referenced video, but this was the first review that came up upon checking Amazon’s page for the game. I remember being around $20 complete too, and now the cheapest price with the case is indeed around $100.

>> No.4533852

>>4533813
>If you go back far enough, they used to pack cards of all types in with products.


Tell me more of this forgotten lore, oldtimer.
Were there washing machine trading cards and ladder trading cards?

>> No.4533891

>>4533852
>Were there washing machine trading cards and ladder trading cards?

I think it was mostly cute carts of kids playing with kites. Or patriotic stuff. Moms would keep scrap books with them.

A fun historical aside is that some man's product like chewing tobacco had British navy ships in the 30s. The nazi's put an ad in collectors papers in England offering to buy full sets of these cards to use in training for Germany.

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>>4533891
here's an article on it

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/victorian-food-trade-cards

I still can't find the official name for this shit. It was something like flomiems. It was an odd word.

>> No.4534276

>>4533743
>So who actually bought baseball cards back when they were being sold in stores?

For sports obsessed kids in the 80's and early 90's, we bought them because it was really the only way to quickly check out a player's career stats. And on the collecting side, it was fun to pull a relatively "expensive" card (2.00 or more) from a pack, and then keep track every month via a price guide of your collection's value.

Kid's in the 50's and such, as someone said, really did buy them just for the gum (gum was card sized and I think you got more gum for your money compared to a regular pack of gum), or to use on their bikes to produce a motorcycle sound effect, etc.

>> No.4534305

>>4533803
>>4533837
Surreal considering it's a downloadable game.Have it on DSiware. It's kinda fun but nowhere near $100 lol.

>> No.4534317

>>4533807
You must not understand then. That guy was saying he didn't see where all these 30 year olds buying up games could be because he doesn't think most of them are pulling in six figure incomes.

But you don't need anything like that kind of money. He gets it.>>4533797

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>>4532250
>the real question is why can't you settle for flash carts to help you "experience" the same feeling of playing these games when they were realised and why you feel the need to fill your life with the actual "honest" media.
I do play on flash carts a lot however one of the reasons I still buy games every now and then is for moments like this when I was looking through the manual of a copy of Shinobi 3 I bought. Can't really explain it too well but I get a real kick when I'm flipping through a manual and see someone's notes from over twenty years ago in it or hell just a sticker of some defunct video store. There's just something very endearing to me about catching a really tiny glimpse of someone's experience with a game over twenty years ago they more than likely forgot about.

>> No.4534334

>>4532704
You've seriously never met a middle aged guy restoring the same type of car he fucked a hot girl in once when he was 17?

>> No.4534356

I just like playing old games. The price of them is fucking unbearable. Thank god for everdrives

>> No.4534408

>>4529431
>When will these prices start combing down again?
1999-2000ish. So, right now in the right now in the right temporal dimension. Good luck.

>> No.4534505

>>4534334
I've seen them, they're usually rednecks with a double digit IQ who don't really like cars, they just want to relive back when they weren't a loser working a shitty job who has to pay alimony to his ex wife.

>> No.4534506

>>4532784
>modes M$ decides you shouldn't see are drivers
wew lad. It's like you're not even trying kiddo. Cool dodge on the many other ways part part champ.

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>>4530839

>> No.4534542

_Some_ retro prices are overinflated particularly Nintendo stuff because of hipster cred. Stuff like Atari or Sega games have shown no price bubble to speak of.

>> No.4534548

>>4534542
I think Amiga stuff as well?

>> No.4534583

>>4534548
European Amiga gear they often do ask insane prices for but American Amiga gear has a lot less demand and is much cheaper.

>> No.4534798

>>4534506
If you want to show me an actual discussion where someone has successfully gotten 15khz out of three analog outputs and gotten mame to split a tri-monitor game across them please link it, I would sincerely like to read it. This isn't a challenge, I seriously would like to know the process for a possible future project. Segaia/Darius 3 PCBs are very rare and becoming expensive enough I doubt I'll ever want to "invest" in one.

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>>4530960
subhuman and mentally defective

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>>4534864

>> No.4535790

>>4534798
No thanks. Not all of us spend 18 hours a day googling shit for retards. I've done 2 screen cabs and 4 screen walls using pretty much the same stuff and MAME has had 3 screen support for like a decade. Maybe google that shit instead of the wrong cab art or whatever stupid shit you're pretending to know about today.

>> No.4535918

>>4535790
>pretty much the same stuff
I mean, since you're not offering up any useful info anyway you might as well just claim you've done it exactly.

>> No.4535973

This thread is horror. The 2 guys insulting each others are morons.

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>>4530892
I knew you were cool gramps, but never this cool

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>>4530894
>>4530904
>>4530917
>>4530927
>>4530937
>>4530980
>>4531070
>>4531103
>>4531147
>>4531205
Just read through this whole chain of text.
Dude, you're fucking insane, literally brainwashed fucking insane.
Everything you wrote was completely melodramatic embellishments and statements so warped and removed from reality it's frightening.
Stop drinking the goddamn kool aid for once in your fucking life and accept the reality that you've been lied to, FOR YEARS!!
And only now, has the Trump Derangement Syndrome removed ANY decency from you and complete denial of reality.
TRUMP IS NOT A BAD PERSON!

>> No.4536301

>>4535918
>maybe i can bait him into doing my homework
lol

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>>4529431
I think the best thing about this age of both high quality emulation and retro game popularity is, now taking a ton of stuff you bought at pawnshops 15 and 20 years ago back to those same pawnshops and getting even more money than you paid in the first place. That was fun.

>> No.4538602

>>4537431
Go fuck yourself.

>> No.4538705

>>4534583
Is there any difference like with consoles?

>> No.4539016

>>4537431
>not selling them on jewbay for maximum profit per effort
dumb!

>> No.4539474

>>4539016
Yes and no. I could have made a lot more money off it selling them piecemeal on ebay. But since time is worth more to me than money these days, even if I got twice or three times as much it wouldn't really be worth it. I made a little for basically renting and playing them for all that time and that's pretty cool to me, I don't need more. Hopefully the shop owner can sell them again for goodness all round.

>> No.4539542

>>4539016
I couldn't do that because I have a conscience.

>> No.4539546

>>4534583
That's considering that there's a lot less American Amiga gear around.

>> No.4540227

>>4539546
Why didn't Americans care about Amiga?

>> No.4540229

>>4540227
>>/vr/thread/S4516073#p4517579

>> No.4540368

>>4537431
>doesn't even tell us how much he got

Ok kiddo

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This isn't something that only happens to retro games.
Even old DVDs are getting pricey and becoming collector items now.
This one is more expensive than the new BluRay version.

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>>4540384
>All these years later and people are still paying top dollar to be disappointed in Beautiful Dreamer

It's a sad world man.

>> No.4540425

>>4529547
Reads like stale copypaste from a classic car site.

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>>4540384
When you complain about inflated ASKING prices you're contributing to the problem

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>>4540384
Music CDs from Japan are going for stupid prices too. I don’t know what causes this wackyness.

>> No.4540495

>>4529432
yeah mario is a real hidden gem

>> No.4540618

>>4540495
You're saying Mario is expensive?