>over 20 years later and this is still the best 3D platformer How did Nintendo do it, lads?

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Anonymous Mon Jan 15 17:53:27 2018 No.4525346 [Reply] [Original]

>over 20 years later and this is still the best 3D platformer

How did Nintendo do it, lads?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 18:01:42 2018 No.4525357 >>4525346 But it's not? Galaxy 1/2 surpassed it, as did Mario 3D World It honestly wasn't even the best 3D Platformer for that long. Banjo Kazooie came out 2 years later and was better in nearly every way

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 18:08:55 2018 No.4525371 >>4525357 Galaxy and 3DW aren't nearly as good as 64. And Banjo lacks the movement a controls of Mario 64.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 18:18:18 2018 No.4525384 >>4525357 Banjo just added more moves and gimmicks and collectables and made the aesthetics and music better, but made the actual gameplay worse and as a result it's less fun to play for me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 18:19:53 2018 No.4525389 >>4525371 >>4525384 Yeah, these. The gameplay and physics in Rare platformers are boring as fuck compared to Mario 64.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 18:36:18 2018 No.4525410 The acrobatics. It's a simple, yet fantastic concept.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 19:24:48 2018 No.4525493 Why is everyone overrating the FUCK out of Odyssey?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 19:49:32 2018 No.4525552 >>4525389 Physics? Yes, totally agree. Gameplay? Absolutely not. >>4525493 The same could be said of 64, itself

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 19:49:45 2018 No.4525554 TF2 jump maps are my fav 3D platformer but I like SM64 a lot too >>4525357 Banjo's a great game but it's not exactly a platformer. It doesn't have movement like mario, it's more of a lock and key exploration game, which is great in its own way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 19:57:20 2018 No.4525573 >>4525493 They're literal children.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 20:02:05 2018 No.4525586 File: 33 KB, 387x258, Rayman_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4525346 Close but no cigar

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 20:05:10 2018 No.4525594 >>4525346 Game Design.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 20:12:14 2018 No.4525628 >>4525586 There we go Nice taste, anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 20:43:41 2018 No.4525705 >>4525586 >fr*nchshit >ever good top jej

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 21:27:23 2018 No.4525792 >>4525493 It's a good game

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 21:47:50 2018 No.4525823 >>4525792 Mediocre at best. Has more badly designed worlds than good ones.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 23:08:05 2018 No.4525932 >>4525357 I love galaxy and 3D world, but they just aren't on 64's level. Sunshine and Odyssey are much closer to 64's quality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 23:12:31 2018 No.4525936 >>4525932 Sunshine is the worst 3D Mario, the hell are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 23:14:49 2018 No.4525938 >>4525357 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 23:26:42 2018 No.4525953 >>4525493 switch owners are starved for games that said, it is a pretty good game despite the awful graphics. It's no 64 but still way better than Sunshine ever was

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 23:30:11 2018 No.4525958 >>4525357 Galaxy is shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 00:02:01 2018 No.4526041 >>4525357 This, but 3D world blows.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 00:13:17 2018 No.4526067 >>4525552 >Gameplay? Absolutely not. Rare platformers are basically Pacman in 3D

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 00:14:52 2018 No.4526069 >>4525936 How is sunshine in anyway the worst 3D mario game? I consider it to be on the level of 64. I'm honestly not sure which game I like better.

Anonymous Tue Jan 16 00:26:31 2018 No.4526096
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>>4526069
>Least amount of worlds
>Ridiculous amounts of padding
>Over half of the game's content is actually meaningless because progress is only measured by Shadow Mario levels
>Least amount of platforming
>Every world has the same recycled missions (boss fight, Red Coin stage, Shadow Mario, Secret of)
>Pachinko level, Watermelon Festival level, poison river with the lily pad level, balloon popping level, cleaning the beach level, Chuckster level
>Overly horizontal level design
GameCube nostalgia is a mental illness.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 00:32:30 2018 No.4526106 >>4526096 >tfw always remembered Sunshine as being panned and not considered a particularly good game Guess that was more or less correct all this time, huh

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 00:34:53 2018 No.4526112 >>4526041 muh nonlinear level design

Anonymous Tue Jan 16 00:35:12 2018 No.4526114

>>4526106
I don't think it's a bad game, not at all, and I don't think many would ever say so either but how someone can consider it to be the best is above my head. It, like most of Nintendo's other first party games during the GameCube era, was clearly rushed and unfinished and it severely hurts a game like Mario where gameplay is everything and the lack of variety and content seriously hurts Sunshine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 00:37:12 2018 No.4526117 >>4526096 Fair points I guess, but I just enjoyed the fuck out of it, and I still do. And if that's a mental illness, then so be it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 00:39:59 2018 No.4526125 >>4526114 I didn't mean to imply that either, sorry if I did. I just meant more people not liking it as much as 64 back then. Sometimes for good reasons, sometimes not.

Anonymous Tue Jan 16 00:49:46 2018 No.4526143

>>4526125
Yeah, it was definitely a bit of a disappointment at release. That being said I do think, before Odyssey, that Mario had the best movement of all the 3D games and, while a small detail, I really liked how cohesive Isle Delfino felt with how you could see the other worlds from the one you were at and it all fit within the tropical theme. Every other Mario is just a hodgepodge of ideas all isolated from one another.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 00:52:22 2018 No.4526148 >>4525357 >Galaxy 1/2 surpassed it, as did Mario 3D World Kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 01:32:28 2018 No.4526254 >>4525346 bullshit. Odyssey is to Mario 64 what Mario 3 is to Mario 1.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 01:38:10 2018 No.4526279 >>4526254 Does that make Sunshine Mario 2?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 01:43:07 2018 No.4526302 >>4525346 Shit game back then. Its a shit game now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 01:45:00 2018 No.4526305 >>4526302 But anon, you wouldn't know if it was shit back then. You didn't exist yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 01:47:29 2018 No.4526313 >>4526302 /thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 01:50:05 2018 No.4526319 >>4526302 >>4526313 samefag

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 01:53:40 2018 No.4526331 >>4526302 May I ask what you disliked about it in particular?

Anonymous Tue Jan 16 01:54:52 2018 No.4526335

>>4526254
I mean I guess if you think a 3 hour, pathetically easy main campaign and 900 moons that are just sort of lying in the open as opposed to 120 actually well thought out and structured missions is an improvement.

I'll never get why people think Mario Odyssey is worth inventing a score higher than their current highest score.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 01:56:15 2018 No.4526337 >>4526335 >as opposed to 120 actually well thought out and structured missions Yes Toad just handing you a Star, the filler 100 Coin Stars, the Red Coin Stars, the boss """"fights"""" are all very well thought out and full of challenge.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 01:58:09 2018 No.4526341 >>4526112 Galaxy games are linear. I think they're the best 3D Mario has ever been.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 01:58:55 2018 No.4526342 >>4526341 Galaxy 2 was a lot better than Galaxy 1.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 02:00:00 2018 No.4526345 >>4526342 Ok. Notice that I said games, plural.

Anonymous Tue Jan 16 02:03:20 2018 No.4526354

>>4526345
I know, I disagree with the first Galaxy being among the best 3D Mario games, although it's still a really good game, was more my point. There are too many more open levels that don't mesh well with the streamlined controls and the idea of 100% being just being a replay as Luigi compared to the Green Stars and bonus world from Galaxy 2 is pretty lame. Galaxy 2 focused on the straight up platforming levels from the first game and basically spread it out across an entire game.

I know they're very similar but I found Galaxy 2 to be the much better game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:01:05 2018 No.4526438 File: 377 KB, 1642x1200, 007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >over 20 years later and this still has the best single player FPS campaign on console How did Rare do it, lads?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:03:05 2018 No.4526441 File: 88 KB, 609x720, 1513381386649.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4526438 Rare did not develop Halo 3.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:04:55 2018 No.4526442 >>4526441 Two words. Cortana level.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:06:16 2018 No.4526443 >>4526442 I mean, you could pick any of the Halo games from the original trilogy and each one would be better than GoldenEye. GoldenEye is the epitome of a game that aged like literal milk.

Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:10:54 2018 No.4526450

>>4526443
>I mean, you could pick any of the Halo games from the original trilogy and each one would be better than GoldenEye
All the Halo games have very flawed campaigns. The first game has endless copy paste corridors and you literally play the levels backwards half way through. The second game campaign was just terribly dull. I actually thought Halo 3 was a big improvement in the single player over the first two, but it's let down by having a few of the worst designed levels in the series (as mentioned, Cortana is a complete trainwreck).

>GoldenEye is the epitome of a game that aged like literal milk.
Meaningless phrase which almost always boils down to. "The graphics are old." "The controls are non-standard which automatically means it's bad." There's never any critique of the actual game but the window dressing around it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:14:35 2018 No.4526459 >>4526450 >There's never any critique of the actual game but the window dressing around it. Ok, let's start with this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYauuETBzHw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:16:38 2018 No.4526464 >>4526459 >the AI acts like a fool while you're hiding in a vent So?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:23:01 2018 No.4526471 >>4526438 >on console Beats any PC shooter as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:24:27 2018 No.4526474 >>4526471 you've never played doom or quake

Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:26:53 2018 No.4526478

>>4526471
I wouldn't go that far necessarily cause I think Doom had an even better single player, and maybe (just maybe) one or two other PC games, but the single player is *definitely* better than Halo in my opinion.

Perfect Dark single player is bogged down by a few too many missions which are great in concept but not that fun to play, while the Timesplitters never really focused that much on single player in the first place (though 2 and 3 had decent campaigns).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:36:52 2018 No.4526494 >>4526474 Played em. Doom is trash and Quake is mediocre. You should've posted a good counter example like Half Life or Duke3D.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:39:22 2018 No.4526503 File: 52 KB, 640x478, He's_right_you_know.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4526494

Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:47:48 2018 No.4526516
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It's simple: atmosphere. I've said it many times, and I'll say it again, SM64 is one of the only games of its kind that has actual atmosphere. Even when you look at later Mario games, they're filled with bubbly music, typical cutesy shit and platformer tropes. SM64 isn't like that. You feel like you're exploring this surreal, lonely world filled with abstract environments and strange creatures. The feeling of wandering around the castle grounds with only the sound of wind, water and birds chirping, or exploring a dark lake with a sunken ship and giant creepy sea monster waiting at the bottom, these are feelings most platformers can't conjure up. It's the feeling of real mystery, wonder and exploration.

On top of this, SM64 has one of the best movesets of any platformer. Most platformers take the Banjo approach, which is giving you a set of unique, flashy attacks/moves which are accessed via different button combinations, but SM64 gives you a way to chain them together and use them to build inertia. This means that your abilities become reactionary and dynamic rather than just static button combinations. It results in a game that is extremely fast-paced, versatile and gives you a wonderful freedom of movement.

Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:49:11 2018 No.4526519
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>>4526494
>Half Life or Duke3D.
Half-Life is as boring and by-the-numbers as you can get, and Duke is completely forgettable outside of titty jokes. Doom and Quake are classic. Doom 64 alone is better than every single game in the Half-Life and Duke series combined.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:51:29 2018 No.4526521 >>4526516 tips fedora

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 03:53:32 2018 No.4526525 >>4526521 I guess anything longer than 2 sentences counts as a fedora tip?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 04:08:18 2018 No.4526541 >>4526494 100 iq post

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 04:10:08 2018 No.4526542 >>4526541 >100 iq post That's being generous.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 04:16:42 2018 No.4526548 >>4526542 To be fair he was half right. Quake's single player is pretty mediocre. Doom's is GOAT.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 04:17:54 2018 No.4526552 >>4526548 Doom's is mediocre, Doom II's on the other hand is a masterpiece.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 04:18:55 2018 No.4526553 >>4526548 Quake has a fantastic single player, it's literally the main reason to play the game. Doom 64's campaign is good but D1 and D2 get old quick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 04:48:31 2018 No.4526581 >itt nintoddlers jerk off to a game that survives solely on nostalgia

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 04:49:34 2018 No.4526583 >>4526581 This.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 04:50:02 2018 No.4526584 File: 24 KB, 480x360, audrey.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4526581 >if you like one of the most popular games ever, then you're a nintendrone!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 04:51:39 2018 No.4526587 File: 7 KB, 200x200, ba2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4526581 I guess if you're a Sony pony you'd never do this because you never had any games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 05:37:59 2018 No.4526656 >>4525346 That's not Spyro.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 05:43:21 2018 No.4526662 >>4526656 You're right, it's not.

Anonymous Tue Jan 16 06:43:43 2018 No.4526698

>>4526516
Agree. The game was developed before the obsession with coherent universes in pop culture arrived, so they were not so afraid to experiment more. For the NDS remake you can see they started to adjust characters and enemies to be "on model" and more typical "Nintendo cute".

Also the game had a lot of great touches, like the maquette of the Haunted House in the backyard of the castle or the rabit chase (which they reused in the Galaxy games).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 09:40:49 2018 No.4526897 File: 14 KB, 221x282, df.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4526471 >blocks your path

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 10:13:12 2018 No.4526958 >>4526438 Perfect Dark is better

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 10:27:34 2018 No.4526976 >>4526958 yeah but not the single player

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 11:01:32 2018 No.4527019 >>4526516 Agreed 100%. Unfortunately you can't use this as an argument against Odyssey because then people will just tell you that it's all subjective.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 13:02:16 2018 No.4527231 >>4526494 All those are shit. t. Unreal master race

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 14:01:35 2018 No.4527325 >>4525346 because 3d is as much of a gimmick as vr or motion controls and doesn't inherently make the game more fun or immersive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 14:16:41 2018 No.4527360 >>4527325 >2d is superior to 3d brainlet as fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 14:25:26 2018 No.4527372 >>4525346 Pure luck, just like iD with Doom and Quake.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 14:29:58 2018 No.4527373 >>4527360 agood 2d game > a bad 3d game

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:13:45 2018 No.4527442 >>4526067 >Pacman in 3D >>4526337 More so than the brain-dead Moons, faglord

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:14:47 2018 No.4527446 >>4526341 I agree. 3D Mario is at its best when it's linear. 64, Sunshine, and Odyssey are all inferior to the linear Galaxy 1/2 and 3D World imho

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:16:21 2018 No.4527450 >>4525384 >made the aesthetics and music better "no"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:16:48 2018 No.4527451 >>4526471 You're an idiot and should leave /vr/ and go shitpost on /v/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:17:20 2018 No.4527453 >>4526516 You imagine this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:17:51 2018 No.4527454 >>4526337 I actually really liked the coin/red coin stars, they were some of the most interesting ones to get

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:18:08 2018 No.4527457 File: 101 KB, 640x908, 9944_front[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4526438 It doesn't even have the best single player FPS campaign in the 007 series. I'd way rather play AuF or Nightfire

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:18:15 2018 No.4527458 >>4527451 Fuck off back to your DOOM containment general, PCuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:18:25 2018 No.4527459 >>4527446 3D World is worse than 64 but better than Sunshine, agree with the rest though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:18:53 2018 No.4527460 >>4526450 the controls are bad even from the perspective of how they're designed for that controller

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:19:58 2018 No.4527462 >>4527457 Loved those campaigns Comfy as fuck Everything or Nothing was also really nice Never played Blood Stone, but heard it was alright

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:36:40 2018 No.4527491 >>4527457 TWINE 64 is severely underrated. I feel like nobody gave it a chance because it got lost in GoldenEye's shadow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:38:30 2018 No.4527495 >>4527491 I loved it The campaign was excellent The multiplayer was not bad either, but I loved the campaign

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 15:42:30 2018 No.4527503 File: 69 KB, 328x407, 1509762147183.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4525346 >lads that is /v/ for sure

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 17:20:57 2018 No.4527683 File: 22 KB, 333x232, sssv.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4525346 blocks your path

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 17:23:10 2018 No.4527689 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYJx5xt2cB0

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 17:25:53 2018 No.4527693 File: 27 KB, 369x270, Rocket_Robot_on_Wheels_Cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4527683 Close, but not quite

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 04:45:37 2018 No.4528585 Nothing but good old fashioned hardcore autistic denial!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 05:08:58 2018 No.4528610 >>4527460 Honeyfucker

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 05:10:23 2018 No.4528614 >>4526516 >On top of this, SM64 has one of the best movesets of any platformer. It's too bad the level design rarely challenges you to make much use of this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 05:26:18 2018 No.4528621 >>4527457 Not sure how young and/or casual you would have to be to think Agent Under Fire is good. It’s like a prototype of modern COD but worse.

Anonymous Wed Jan 17 06:50:20 2018 No.4528681

>>4528614
Sounds like you're playing the game the wrong way, friendo. I can't tell you how many levels were made easier by utilizing inertia and cool tricks to access areas of the level that would have otherwise taken much longer to get to. There's a reason SM64 speed runs are so popular.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 07:07:09 2018 No.4528703 >>4525357 I love Galaxy but Galaxy's strongpoint are the level gimmicks, Mario himself is really limited in what he can do. SM64 gives Mario a huge roster of moves.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 14:53:37 2018 No.4529265 >>4528614 Post you're times.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 15:41:12 2018 No.4529345 >>4528610 never, I regularly turn down opportunities for sex

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 15:43:16 2018 No.4529347 >>4528703 oh boy I can cheese levels instead of do some actual platforming.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 15:47:29 2018 No.4529358 >>4529347 The platforming in Galaxy gets ruined with the spin jump and the floaty physics. At least cheesing out stars in 64 can be fun.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:00:55 2018 No.4529787 >>4529358 >The platforming in Galaxy gets ruined with the spin jump and the floaty physics. Objectively wrong.

Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:08:23 2018 No.4529796

>>4529347
>Galaxy
>platforming
The “platforming” is practically automated, anytime you aim out of a cannon it automatically takes you to the next platform, it's impossible to miss. It's also nearly impossible to die in the game. Oddysey has similar problems where fancy moves will almost automatically land you on most platforms do that a two year old can't miss.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:22:35 2018 No.4529820 >>4529787 Objectively eat dick

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:26:46 2018 No.4529826 >>4525357 >as did Mario 3D World fuck off, kid, that game feels like utter shit compared to 64

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:28:23 2018 No.4529829 >>4529796 >It's also nearly impossible to die in the game. This is true of all Mario games, 64 is actually probably the second easiest only ahead of the first Galaxy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:30:42 2018 No.4529831 >>4525346 SOME TIMES U CATCH LIGHTNING IN A BOTTLE

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:32:40 2018 No.4529835 >>4526117 While I think Sunshine is trash for the reasons previously perscribed and more, I will say it's entirely valid to enjoy fucking around in Sunshine, because Sunshine is the best controlling game in the series, 2D or 3D

Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:36:22 2018 No.4529838

>>4529796
>anytime you aim out of a cannon it automatically takes you to the next platform, it's impossible to miss.
Are you talking about how it just shoots Mario straight? You can miss, except you'd have to have really shitty aim to do so.

The cannons in SM64 are trial and error nonsense. I'm not sure why you're pretending they're something worth imitating.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:40:51 2018 No.4529845 >>4529838 Mario 64 cannons are only there for the wing cap and occasionally easy shit like whomp's fortress Galaxy cannons are one of the game's many cinematic level transitions

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:41:00 2018 No.4529846 The jumping is done very well. I however think many of the levels are boring to replay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:43:00 2018 No.4529847 >>4529838 Mario 64 cannons actually require the player to calculate their trajectory Galaxy cannons are some automatic bs

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:43:27 2018 No.4529848 >>4529846 I wouldn't call >Dire Dire Docks >Jolly Roger Bay >Tall Tall Mountain >Rainbow Ride "many"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:45:40 2018 No.4529849 >>4529847 >calculate their trajectory *guess

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:54:44 2018 No.4529853 >>4529849 Name a mission where it's not a straight, safe shot, nor is there a wing cap

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:56:00 2018 No.4529856 File: 2.99 MB, 1120x630, 1458475985734.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4529835 >because Sunshine is the best controlling game in the series, 2D or 3D Not when Odyssey exists.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:57:16 2018 No.4529858 >>4529856 I sure do love nerfed longjump and walljumps.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 20:59:16 2018 No.4529861 >>4529856 first point: >>4529858 second point: what you posted is peak odyssey, and most of it was Ground Pound Jump > Hat Throw > Dive > Hat Jump Odyssey DOES feel great, but Sunshine still feels better

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 21:02:02 2018 No.4529864 File: 1.43 MB, 712x480, 1464384734872.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4529861 >Sunshine still feels better

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 21:08:48 2018 No.4529870 >>4529864 That shit still gives me PTSD. Fuck that game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 21:10:02 2018 No.4529873 >>4529864 exception, not the rule Everywhere else he feels great, the game just has awful level design and repetitive as fuck objectives

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