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Turrican thread Anonymous Sun Jan 14 23:26:39 2018 No.4524034 [Reply] [Original]

any Turrican fans on /vr/? I know it's mostly a European thing

The complete version of Super Turrican comes out soon. It comes with some snes clone console but someone will extract it I bet

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 23:34:26 2018 No.4524047 >>4524034 Watch everybody forget about it in a matter of days like they did with Starfox 2.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 23:35:48 2018 No.4524049

>>4524034
I remember playing a Turrican game on a Gameboy I think and some kind of computer I think. The series never stood out to me to be honest. Is the MD one worth getting in y'all's opinion?
>The complete version of Super Turrican comes out soon
Ooh, it's one of those cut content games?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 00:06:33 2018 No.4524091 The games never clicked with me personally. Contra and Mega Man are way more fun to play.

Anonymous Mon Jan 15 01:12:46 2018 No.4524160

>>4524049
Super turrican was supposed to be a 6 megabit rom, but it was downsized to 4 so the publisher could save money

As a result, the entire final level as well as a weapon was removed. Super turrican ends after the alien level which is almost copy pasted from mega turrican.

Even though factor 5 is bankrupt and defunct the copyright holders refuse to release the rom to the public domain. They originally submitted it to Nintendo for the virtual console which Nintendo refused.

Most people prefer mega turrican over super turrican, so it’ll be interesting to see if this changes anyone’s feelings

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 02:25:38 2018 No.4524241 >>4524034 Level design in these games seems messy and incoherent. It just screams typical low quality euro game (I'm from Europe btw).

Anonymous Mon Jan 15 03:59:57 2018 No.4524342

>>4524034
i recently 1ccd super turrican 2 which is far more linear, it's alright but has some typical euro design, all the mode 7 stages are complete shit, the grapple hook controls stupidly ie when you're swinging if you press a direction it doesn't go that way at all and just does weird things and enemies in typical euro fashion take to many hits, on hardest difficulty they didn't even tune it so certain weapons can't even kill groups coming towards you fast enough. Nice aesthetic but could of been better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 21:45:55 2018 No.4525819 >>4524241 all you do is go to the right, occasionally changing direction what's so hard about that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 02:31:29 2018 No.4526396 >>4525819 I'm not talking about the challenge aspect, anon. Just saying the stage layout doesn't seem very well designed.

Anonymous Tue Jan 16 04:22:06 2018 No.4526559

>>4524342
Spot on with the too many hits thing. Every weapon in ST2 has a shit rate of fire and you can't unleash spreadshot hell like in the rest of the series. Didn't enjoy the gimmick stages or music as much either. It's more a technical achievement game - looks nice, plays averagely.

Mega/3 has a better explorable stages/neat setpieces mix, a better feel and far less gimmicky stuff. ST1 has this and feels way more like the original 1+2 but it ends too quickly. Looking forward to the complete version.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 10:01:50 2018 No.4526932 >>4526559 >It's more a technical achievement game - looks nice, plays averagely. Welcome to a lot of western gaming.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 10:09:35 2018 No.4526952 >>4524049 mega turrican is the ONLY good one in the series

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 11:19:10 2018 No.4527049 First level theme is pretty damn memorable. Other than that nothing to see here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 11:37:13 2018 No.4527082 >>4527049 my favorite is 1-3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14gpqf8JP-Y

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 13:27:40 2018 No.4527258 >>4526559 it's typical of western shmups to, things like low rate of fire are usually to make other aspects of the game possible and not a flicker fest (like rendering ranger) blame the snes for it's shite processor i guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 13:33:32 2018 No.4527269 >>4527258 This happened mostly in the Amiga tho.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 13:49:47 2018 No.4527305 >>4524047 Not even European but I care about Super Turrican's final cut more than Star Fox 2. At least we already know the base game is good. SF2 was always trash and now everybody knows it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 04:13:48 2018 No.4528548 >>4527269 ok? and how does it being common on amiga take away from it being common on the snes due top it's weak processor to? Learn to think.

Anonymous Wed Jan 17 11:50:42 2018 No.4528969

>>4528548
SNES processor is slow and all that but it's the fault of European designer they made games not designed around the limitations of the Amiga nor the SNES (and some Japanese ones like Konami with Gradius III and other early SNES games but you get the idea).

Anonymous Thu Jan 18 06:16:10 2018 No.4530469 [DELETED]

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>>4524034
I'm still not over what "The Code Monkeys" did to Turrican with Universal Soldier. Ripped out the Shmup-Levels, added some additional shitty low grade levels and changed everything to fit the Universal Soldier license.

And I still remember seeing that Universal Soldier game being reviewed in some german magazin and the author didn't mentioned (or didn't he notice?) that this game was made from parts of Turrican II, despite the pretty obvious screenshots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMlc884o8z4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asSZkBqBP0U

Anonymous Thu Jan 18 06:35:03 2018 No.4530478
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>>4524034
I'm still not over what "The Code Monkeys" did to Turrican with Universal Soldier. Ripped out the Shmup-Levels, added some additional shitty low grade levels and changed everything to fit the Universal Soldier license.

And I still remember seeing that Universal Soldier game being reviewed in some german magazin and the author didn't mentioned (or didn't he notice?) that this game was made from parts of Turrican II, despite the pretty obvious screenshots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMlc884o8z4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asSZkBqBP0U

Anonymous Thu Jan 18 07:58:57 2018 No.4530548

>>4530478
Refitted Euro computer games were all over in the 16 bit era. If you had a few licenses, whether to port a game or to a media property, why not combine them to make a quick buck?

Ones I can think of off hand:
Crazy Cars III (AMI) - Lamborghini American Challenge (SNES)
Sleepwalker (AMI) - Eek the Cat (SNES)
Mr Blobby (AMI) - Super Troll Island (SNES)
Uridium (C64) - The Last Starfighter (NES)
Myth (C64/AMI) - Conan (NES)
Harlequin (AMI) - Madness: House of Fun/PJ Gumball Hero (MD)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 07:59:17 2018 No.4532548 Still some of my favorite Amiga music.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 15:27:19 2018 No.4533141 >>4532548 Too bad about everything else surrounding the nice Huelsbeck score. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIKtVwFOTFs

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 16:15:15 2018 No.4533238 HELLO AND WELCOME TO TURRICAN, BE MY GUEST

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 17:39:18 2018 No.4533426 >>4524241 Yeah the level design is a god damned mess in these games (at least the first 2 on commodore), along with many other things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 17:57:44 2018 No.4533482 >>4533426 Mega Turrican is a tad better though not much.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 18:29:35 2018 No.4533539 >>4533238 ANOTHER DAY ANOTHER TRY BUT REMEMBER.....SHOOT OR DIE AHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous Sat Jan 20 10:06:18 2018 No.4534861

>>4533238
>>4533539
Oh, the glorious days of 4-bit-Samples. C64 developers were really creative to do things with the hardware that it was never intended to do in the first place... like sample playback on a system without any sample support whatsoever. The C64 really got pushed way beyond it's limits.
>>>/wsg/2069678

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 17:09:11 2018 No.4535774 >>4533238 >>4533539 >>4534861 i wonder why the amiga version of that intro was so much weaker

Anonymous Sat Jan 20 17:39:23 2018 No.4535825

>>4535774
Yeah it's just 'Welcome to Turrican AHAHAHA(echo)' but the music kicks in soon after and all is forgiven.

Shame Super Turrican 2's soundtrack sucks bar like 2 or 3 tracks which are pure Huelsbeck. I really love Huelsbeck's work on Jim Power on the SNES. It's a just a difficult game to love because it's....a difficult game. Get further than the top down level on what the game gives you, I dare you. Somewhere there's a Genesis version with a full soundtrack, but we just have the prototype. Some Steam rerelease was meant to be getting it but didn't. Intrigued about said Steam rerelease, you get hit points which would balance the game tenfold and it has Amigaesque charm.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 18:08:00 2018 No.4535894 >we will never get Thornado for N64 why live

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 21 03:56:35 2018 No.4536806 >>4535894 Didn't Factor 5 recently reform and got their hands on the Turrican license?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 21 04:43:11 2018 No.4536840 >>4524047 Starfox 2 was always a shitty game cancelled back then for this very reason. Super Turrican it's a fucking great platform shooter still today.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 21 13:44:31 2018 No.4537476 >>4537017 europlatformer originality shines through again

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 21 13:48:52 2018 No.4537490 >>4537476 You speak as if the Japanese didn't rip off American works all the time in the 90s.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 21 13:53:27 2018 No.4537501 >>4537476 >said the American

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 21 13:54:13 2018 No.4537502 >>4537490 this remember Sylvester stallone solid snake?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 22 15:55:53 2018 No.4539618 >>4537490 >>4537476 Everybody rips off everybody, to be fair.

Anonymous Tue Jan 23 14:22:29 2018 No.4540759
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I would be delighted if at least DICE would finally release their game "Hardcore" that back in the day was supposed to be released on the MegaDrive (development started for the Amiga but shifted to the Sega console).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD_oFVeYZYo

AFAIK the game was 99% finished but went under with Psygnosis who cancelled all their MegaDrive projects. Well, it didn't went under in the truest sense, since Sony bought it with Psygnosis. But they never finished it, released it or at least ported it. Just like a couple of other titles that were in production at Psygnosis.

And Hardcore looks like it was heavily inspired by Turrican, it's almost a clone.
Did at least a dump of the prototype surface exist somewhere?

I only played the retro DICE games like Benefactor or their awesome Pinball Series, but couldn't care less about garbage like Battlefront/Battlefield.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 23 15:27:05 2018 No.4540854 Not a fan of the randomness of late 80s/early 90s European 2D games and Turrican falls victim to this as well.

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