/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4499218]

Do you think there are deeper psychological reasons for your clinging to the old video games that you already played to death?

[Anonymous No.4499278]

>>4499218

No. I just flat out don't like newer games on the bases of enjoyment alone and it's an expensive ass hobby.

[Anonymous No.4499289]

>>4499218
>that you already played to death?
nice assumption

[Anonymous No.4499294]

>>4499218
Not particularly. It's a comfort thing maybe, as well as the fact that there are just certain kinds of games and design choices that aren't so common anymore.

[Anonymous No.4499330]

>>4499289
this

[Anonymous No.4499350]

>>4499289
I literally haven't played Mario World since the 90s or Link to the Past since 2004. I don't even know where my Gameboys are. I don't play hardly any games I played to death as a kid.

[Anonymous No.4499384]

>>4499218
Fun, maybe?

[Anonymous No.4499387]

>>4499218
I dont think anyone is clinging to old games. we cling to good games

[Anonymous No.4499405]

>>4499387
If so why is sixth gen not allowed yet

[Anonymous No.4499421]

>>4499405
When does 2000 come before 1999?

[Anonymous No.4499501]

>>4499405

Because this isn't your club. It's our club.

[Anonymous No.4499654]

>>4499218
Nostalgia can be a factor, yes, but when I started collecting, playing and enjoying consoles and games that I never had as a kid I realized there was more to it than that.
I like simple, straight-forward gameplay and the experimental aspect of some other old games. Back then it was the wild west. Now everything looks the same. Some new games can stand out or try to do something different (or try to emulate retro games) and I can play them, but most new games I find confusing and/or overwhelming for various reasons: too much detail, complex game mechanics and controls, big open worlds...

[Anonymous No.4499670]

There's no psychological reason for anything I do I act completely at random

[Anonymous No.4499671]

>>4499405
When will 6th Gen be allowed?? I want to talk about Gamecube games.

[Anonymous No.4499674]

>>4499671
6th gen is allowed on /v/, go there

[Anonymous No.4499679]

>>4499674
All /v/ does is talk about newer games (7th gen and beyond) with the very rare 6th gen thread popping up occasionally.
If the rest of 6th gen comes onto /vr/ then it will be much easier to discuss it then on /v/.
Also Gamecube, PS2, and Xbox are a few years shy of being 20 years old.

[Anonymous No.4499682]

>>4499674
Retro shit is also allowed on /v/, go there.

[Anonymous No.4499686]

>>4499218
>Do you think there are deeper psychological reasons for your clinging to the old video games that you already played to death?

Yes, and anyone saying otherwise is delusional and/or has no self awareness whatsoever (typical of most posters on 4chan these days, even more typical for /v/tards).
Games like SH and RE are inherently comfy once you get to know them because they're very tightly structured and "contained", this is common for most survival horror games in general from that era.
Once you learn the game, it's like a puzzle box you know all the ins and outs of, you can get in, experience the puzzle again, solve it, then get out.
I feel like this metaphor works especially well for old horror games, but it can apply to old games in general, they give you comfort via repetition and familiarity.

Does that mean anything you're nostalgic for is only good because you're nostalgic towards it?
Not at all.
SH1 is objectively good.
RE1-3 are objectively good.
Tons of old games are objectively good.
Additionally they're not inherently better or worse to all new games, they simply offer their own experience, and often, while playing old games, you find experiences that you can't find in modern games today simply because the audience for those experiences has become too small and unprofitable.

You can't even argue "if you only play old games you're a jaded fuck and your opinion is worthless", because it's more complicated than that.
Yes, there's people that exclusively play old games because they straight up despise 100% of the modern market, you'll find people like that here on /vr/, they're generally very close minded and simple minded at the same time.
However you'll also find people that aren't COMPATIBLE with the new market, wich is different than just expressing disgust towards it and that's it.
Then you have people going back to old games now for the first time and sticking to them over newer releases, that's perfectly normal too.

[Anonymous No.4499689]

>>4499679
>Also Gamecube, PS2, and Xbox are a few years shy of being 20 years old.
then wait a few years and ask for them to be included then
>>4499682
that's nice, but this board is quite fine thank you :)

[Anonymous No.4499691]

>>4499686
It's weird but two decades of modern games have trained my mind against my better judgement. I will occasionally dig up an old horror game I overlooked and be unable to enjoy it. Not the gameplay or graphics, but the whole state of staring at this largely unfamiliar puzzle that requires quite a bit of time and effort to untangle. To figure out the optimal routes, to memorize shit. My brain feels like someone put it in a stress test and is force-writing data onto it. I do not enjoy it, I do not thrive off it like i used to. But boy I will get my first of the total 4 scenarios of RE2 for this year by the end of january no matter what, despite being able to play it virtually with a blindfold on.

[Anonymous No.4499701]

>>4499691
The solution to your problem is to cut yourself off from modern games entirely for a period of time.
Back in the day we only had these games, so we had to play by their rules, or don't play anything at all.
Thus by putting yourself in a situation where you can't go back to modern gaming and it's conveniences/semplifications, your brain will adapt.
It's sorta the same method one can use to adapt quickly to a foreign language: put yourself in a situation where you can't use languages you're more comfortable with to communicate.

Once your mind will adapt back to it, you can switch between the two "settings" pretty easily, when you go back to old games you'll play by their rules without thinking about it and vice versa.

[Anonymous No.4500421]

>>4499691
Modern gaming destroys your ability to enjoy anything in this hobby other than babbified crap, I've seen this happen to a friend who was able to 1cc arcade games and now can't get past the first stage of Hagane/Alien Soldier on Supereasy as I've mentioned here on /vr/ before.

[Anonymous No.4501358]

>>4499218

You don't have many other achievements you can point to in life?

[Anonymous No.4501390]

>>4501358

[Anonymous No.4501396]

>>4499218

I dont even despise new games but for me and my tastes there are only about 5 games a year released for modern systems. 2017 I played ff15 and persona 5 and not much else while on my retro stations I got hundreds of well made, creative games. I replayed kirbys dream course last year and had more fun with it than with the stupid combat system in ff15. If they start doing FUN games again I‘ll come back from behind my couch.

[Anonymous No.4501407]

>>4501396
FF15 is garbage in every possible way. Its hard to find any redeeming qualities to it.

Persona series as a whole is garbage as well but at least 5 is somewhat stylish and pretty to look at. And its on the lower side of the obnoxious/chore spectrum of jRPGs.

[Anonymous No.4501410]

>>4501358
Not really no but I feel to see the correlation.

[Anonymous No.4501425]

>>4499218
Goldeneye 3 player multiplayer
my dad.brother. and i had alot of fun evenings with just the 3 of us, Dad left us pretty abruptly when i was around 13 in 2007 i am 23 now in 2018 and whenever i see my cache of N64 games i get remembered of the good ol days, Bought a huge collection of retro games 2014-2015 and i regret every penny spent, Sold alot luckily.

[Anonymous No.4501460]

>>4499218
>you already played to death?

The fuck are you smoking? I keep playing new retro games every day.

[Anonymous No.4501617]

>>4499218
Maybe if I also didn't play a lot of new games as well....

[Anonymous No.4501629]

>>4499218
Yeah here's the deep reason: those games were good.

[Anonymous No.4502561]

I rewatch good movies, tv shows, comic books, etc. I don't think there is some deep psychological reason to enjoy things you enjoy.

[Anonymous No.4502858]

I absolutely crave 5th gen 3D games, and yeah I'm biased towards it because of my childhood.

They just don't make games like before. Survival horror, 3D platformers, pretty much all the best genres are dead. All video games are dumbed down now, and they rely on flashy graphics completely. Only the "safe sellers" have a chance of getting published, so you never see exciting experimental stuff and passion projects on console anymore.

[Anonymous No.4502881]

>>4499218
Best Game ever

[Anonymous No.4502940]

>>4502858
5th gen console style games aren't the only dead genres. Check out space combat games like Freespace, arcade shoot'em ups, arcade beat'em ups... Dead.

[Anonymous No.4503009]

>>4500421
Happened to me I used to whiz through these games as a kid, when I went back I couldn't even beat the first stage of Ninja Gaiden. And that's only coming from the casualized ps2 era which wasn't nearly as bad as today. Can't imagine how shit today's kids are at games.

[Anonymous No.4503014]

>>4503009
I've seen a kid that was around 7 or so give up at my copy of Revenge of Shinobi's first stage. He asked me to try the console btw and that's the game I had there at the time. He's used to PS3 era games.

[Anonymous No.4503282]

>>4499218
Want the simple answer? Old games tend to have much more replayability than newer games. So that is why I prefer older games most of the time.

[Anonymous No.4503514]

>>4499278
this and muh nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.4503809]

>>4503282
They have more "playability" period, let alone replayability lol

[Anonymous No.4503843]

>>4499218
I honestly don't think commercial games released today are as innovative as they used to be. up until the early 90's, devs were still exploring the limits of the medium, and the games we got gave us all kinds of unique experiences. today, most games just try to streamline a "cinematic" experience, and this happens at the expense of playability.

meanwhile, graphics haven't really progressed since the early seventh gen, and from a stylistic point of view, they have actually detoriated, since many games today don't have any consistent art direction at all, and the ones that do tend to go for generic grittybrown or grimdark styles.

[Anonymous No.4503850]

>>4503843
I'd extend that to at least the mid or maybe even late 90's. I'm not that much into 3D games but we can't ignore the explosion of creativity for 3D games at the time. Shmups with deeper scoring systems also appeared around that time.

[Anonymous No.4503864]

>>4503843
>I honestly don't think commercial games released today are as innovative as they used to be.
Same thing can be said about movies today, really.
>graphics haven't really progressed since the early seventh gen, and from a stylistic point of view, they have actually detoriated
I'm on the same page with that, too. Many modern games go for as much "realism" as possible with super-HD graphics. And they end up having no style and no grace.

[Anonymous No.4503923]

Oversaturation of games nowadays is a problem. There's literally hundreds of new games on Steam and everything goes so fast there's no time to take the time to let things grow.
Also, gaming culture has changed a lot, and the pressure of evolving to be a respetcable art form has removed a lot of the fun and the charm of gaming in general. That positive and fun energy impregnated those old games and that's why they feel so different and fun compared to a lot of games of today.

[Anonymous No.4503943]

>>4503923
But muh ludonarrative dissonance

[Anonymous No.4503956]

>>4503923
what you describe is part of the problem, but it mainly applies to the indie scene (there are, of course, lot's of good indie games as well, Unreal World and Dwarf Fortress are prime examples). for mainstream commercial games, it's not the hipster mentality that is the main problem, but the dudebro mentality.

I think it's very telling that the "goalpost" for mental investment in a game today is the same as for watching a movie. if a game plays exactly like a cheesy hollywood action movie, where you have very limited interaction with the game world, it will get strongly positive reviews for "immersing the player in a cinematic experience". meanwhile, if a game actually adds playability instead, it will be punished by reviews accusing it of being "confusing" or even "hostile towards anyone outside of a niche audience".

[Anonymous No.4503959]

>>4499218
I actually got into all this by accident; nostalgia wasn't a factor. It's expensive and sometimes difficult to keep up with everything new coming out on the regular. I started to wonder why I should worry about that when there were so many older games that I'd missed out on over the years I could try. Went from there.
It is neither easier nor cheaper, incidentally, but it became a hobby I enjoy all the same.

[Anonymous No.4503962]

>>4503959
Smart anon

[Anonymous No.4505143]

>>4499686

I wonder if this is why I like Dead Space so much

[Anonymous No.4505785]

>>4499654

This is how it is for me, too. I'm not just revisiting games I enjoyed as a kid (and when I do, I typically only play until I get bored, rather than beating it again), but getting much more into retro gaming in general. I enjoy how simple & straightforward yet challenging they are. It's harder for me to enjoy modern games because I've reached a point in my life where I'd rather devote my time and energy to things other than learning all the ins-and-outs of a virtual world.