Ecco Location

[Anonymous No.4472991]

It's been a while since there was a good Ecco thread, and at least one guy out there is playing it now so fine time for another.

General discussion of all things Ecco, or any questions from anyone go for it!

[Anonymous No.4473349]

>>4472991
I wish ED would stop being an annoying libshit on twitter and let somebody else make a new ECCO.

[Anonymous No.4473732]

>>4473349
Why would you want anyone other than him to make a new Ecco? It's already about environmental destruction.

[Anonymous No.4473750]

>>4473732
Yes ECCO is about environmentalism, but it was also about one sentient dolphins mission to save his pod and race from being genocided by intergalactic parasitic aliens.

[Anonymous No.4473753]

ECCO needed to protect his DNA and history from being altered by ((them))

[Anonymous No.4473757]

>>4473750
Okay. And is any of that a reason why Ed shouldn't be the guy to make another Ecco? He's political, but that's part if the series. It should at least be made by someone with an interest in the environment.

[Anonymous No.4473774]

>>4473757
He already fucked up his Big Blue kickstarter about muh environment. Boomers are out of touch hypocrites that use technology that harms the environment. Original creators are sometimes the worst people to reboot an old dormant series because they lose sight of what made it great or they just want to make money. Look at Sonic Mania and how the fans created something far superior than Sonic Team ever could and with a smaller budget. Ecco on 3DS was great and that was ported by M2.

[Anonymous No.4473782]

>>4473750
... Vortex is a metaphor. That's the whole point. Also dolphins are already sentient.

[Anonymous No.4473786]

>>4473753
actually The Asterite edits Eccos DNA goyim

[Anonymous No.4473789]

>>4473774
I do take your point, and someone creative and inspired could make something great with Ecco. But my fear is without him at the helm what we would actually get is like what has happened now to Star Wars. I'd rather have no new Ecco than something else with the nane Ecco in big words.

M2's port was perfect but it was a port.

>>4473782
Agree with this too.

[Anonymous No.4473841]

>>4473789
>happened now to Star Wars
money making machine. Lucas already fucked up the franchise with the prequels. The original trilogy had different directors keeping Lucas bullshit in check. Good products are the sum of all the people that worked on them. ED borrowed most of his ideas from other sources anyways.

[Anonymous No.4474307]

>>4473841
I have actually grown to appreciate the prequels over the years. PM pissed me off so much when I first saw it, but the evil Jar Jar reveal a couple of years ago finally made it make sense and I felt a little foolish not noticing it earlier. They're certainly flawed, but so were the originals. And although yes he had a lot of help with the writing (moreso in the originals which is why they're better), it's essentially his vision of the fall and redemption story, and clumsy as it is that's what I like about it.

The new Star Wars aren't bad exactly, but they're not really Star Wars themed action movies. Like the cartoons. I fear a new Ecco would be the same. Look like Ecco but not have the same essence. So if it's someone new, I'd rather have them do something new than try to remake something. We have too much of that already

[Anonymous No.4474387]

>>4474307
I guess ED would know Ecco the best but still he is not the only person who worked on the genesis games. A dev team needs many competent individuals and organization to make a great game. Modern gaming is flooded with remakes because they are a quick easy cash grab. Ed said "Ecco 3 was going to be about the Atlantans war with the Vortex. At the end of Tides of Time, Ecco goes back to help." Some forced anti-war message im sure.

[Anonymous No.4474397]

Ecco 4 needs to be a /vr/ cyberpunk neo-future apocalyptic lsd simulator deep space ocean survival horror.

[Anonymous No.4474404]

>>4474397
imagine the paranoia induced panic attacks when your only weapon is that shitty sonar attack and bad 3D controls.

[Anonymous No.4474440]

>>4472991
Why is it sold as a kids game but it is so fucking insanely scary?

[Anonymous No.4474447]

>>4474440
Ecco Jr. is more your speed champ

[Anonymous No.4474707]

>>4474447
>нa pyccкoм языкe

[Anonymous No.4474813]

>>4474387
>Ecco 3 was going to be about the Atlantans war with the Vortex. At the end of Tides of Time, Ecco goes back to help." Some forced anti-war message im sure.

Exactly. And even if it wasn't perfect that's what I would want out of it. Especially an anti-war bend.

[Anonymous No.4474815]

Reminder that Ecco is one of the few retro games that many grills genuinely like

[Anonymous No.4475098]

>>4474815
And Zelda... I wonder why.

[Anonymous No.4475109]

>>4475098
And Spyro.

[Anonymous No.4475123]

>>4474813
just shut up commie youll eat whatever they feed you.
>>4474815
I just want those shirts but they're sold out. Looks like the west is starting to infect japan with its trashy tumblr hair and chokers.

[Anonymous No.4475134]

>>4475123
>Looks like the west is starting to infect japan with its trashy tumblr hair and chokers.
I'm pretty sure Japanese teen fashion has been imitating rock stars for a long time.

[Anonymous No.4475251]

>>4472991
Just finished reading the manual
wish me luck,the first time I started the game I was lost as fuck and kept drowning.

[Anonymous No.4475269]

>>4475251
good luck. dont forget to use your sonar map.

[Anonymous No.4475278]

>>4475251
Good luck!
Before going into a cave use your sonar to scope out air pockets and then head for one of those and scout from there. It gets tricky at points but there's always plenty of air if you keep your bearings. You'll feel like you need to rush, but you rarely do and rushing often just gets you in more trouble. An octopus will demonstrate that for you.


>>4475123
Grow up, dude.

[Anonymous No.4475285]

>>4475134
tumblrina fashion is more recent

[Anonymous No.4475494]

>>4474397
>>4474404
Fuck. I lost.

[Anonymous No.4475498]

>>4475123
>Looks like the west is starting to infect japan with its trashy tumblr hair and chokers.
Japan was way, WAY ahead with that, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.4475502]

>>4474397
REZ Infinite works superbly in VR.
I imagine ecco game in similar fashion would also be great.

[Anonymous No.4475505]

>>4475123
>I just want those shirts but they're sold out. Looks like the west is starting to infect japan with its trashy tumblr hair and chokers.

[Anonymous No.4475515]

>>4475502
Good lord, do you even know what board you're posting on, you colossal faggot?

[Anonymous No.4475519]

>>4475515
whats it to you autistic shit?

[Anonymous No.4475527]

>>4475519
Ignore it, some autistic pleb trying to shitpost and derail.

[Anonymous No.4475539]

>>4475519
>confusing VR with /vr/
Idiocy.

[Anonymous No.4475551]

>>4475539
Your comprehension skills are peculiar.
The picture I responded had a person with a headset on him presumably for virtual reality.
REZ in the latest remaster released AREA X which will serve as a blueprint for future game development
Atmosphere,visuals and sound is unmatched by anything in existence.
I just pointed out that a game like ecco would benefit a lot from the spacial audio implementation and visual design like rez had in virtual reality.
Do you want me to paint a picture for you or its clear now?

[Anonymous No.4475564]

>>4475515
Rez is retro

[Anonymous No.4475574]

Can we take a moment to appreciate the soundtrack in Ecco?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QousDdXrjWo&

[Anonymous No.4475592]

>>4475574
Some of the best music on the Genesis in my opinion. I wish the CD version were the same tunes with higher samples or real instruments.

[Anonymous No.4475598]

>>4475592
Not him but I think the CD version is mastered with Q Sound so it should sound well on surround systems.

[Anonymous No.4475603]

>>4475574
They used that FM synth beautifully. Gives the perfect alien sounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqMuvFEKCOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJhTNfZ56-g
I also really enjoy Tim Follin and Spencer Nilsen ambient new age music. All the Ecco soundtracks are god tier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72J5FPCXSL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHrbx0CF_GE

[Anonymous No.4475642]

>>4475592
You can only make FM synths with an FM synthesizer, there's no point.

[Anonymous No.4476046]

>>4475642
Yeah but I meant more how the CD tracks are totally different songs. The originals sound perfect as is with that weird Genesis sound, but it would be awesome to hear recorded versions of the same tunes but done with synthesizer keyboards, theramins, zeysaphones... didgeridoos, musical saws and shit.

[Anonymous No.4476056]

>>4473750
Top kek.

A picture is worth a rollercoaster ride into an oven and down in a basement dodging knives in a labrynth.

[Anonymous No.4476069]

>>4474440
Get in the zone brobaby.

Its the strange environment, controls and music that make ecco so gripping. Like resident evil, zombies ate my neighbors, silent hill, fallout, mgs, etc... the unique aspects that play out in a not so ordinary way. Its different and weird, but oddly compelling and addicting.

Too bad games that have a unique feel are far and few these days. Indie games are a good thing for non trad gaming .


This video is great at explaining the lack of feel in games today.

https://youtu.be/jCmmYF4rOwo

Be happy ecco has such a truly tantilizing effect.

[Anonymous No.4476071]

>>4475123
Welcome to 1980

[Anonymous No.4476091]

>>4476071
if you traveled back in the tides of time you would see that women did not wear slutty degenerate prostitute chokers in the 80s newfag. They were more wholesome.

[Anonymous No.4476146]

>>4476056
What the fuck are you babbling about?

[Anonymous No.4476149]

>>4476069
>Too bad games that have a unique feel are far and few these days.

The complete opposite of this is true.

[Anonymous No.4476152]

>>4476091
>wholesome
women were so wholesome they gave dolphins handjobs

[Anonymous No.4476156]

>>4476152
>"It was sexual on his part - it was not sexual on mine, sensuous perhaps. It would just become part of what was going on like an itch, just get rid of that ... scratch and we would be done and move on. I was there to get to know Peter, that was part of Peter."
hippies drugged and fucked dolphins for "science"

[Anonymous No.4476596]

>>4475603
They're almost too good for video games.

[Anonymous No.4476602]

>>4472991
I remember my parents telling me they would get me this game if my grades improved. They did, I got it, and it was amazing.

[Anonymous No.4476769]

>>4476602
Nice! This would be a good game for that kind of reward.

>>4474815
Ecco is a different sort of game. It's more about patience under pressure and thinking ahead than quick refelxes and fast button pressing. Don't want to stereotype but might be related.

[Anonymous No.4476837]

>>4476596

Video games have much better music than pop music so this statement makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.4477001]

>>4476837
... Huh? Do you think pop is the only kind of music besides video games?

[Anonymous No.4477816]

Is the Dreamcast one worth playing? I just remember getting lost in caves and drowning all the time.

[Anonymous No.4477992]

>>4477816
Deffinitely! It gets wicked hard at times, but that's Ecco for you and it's worth it. Shit gets crazy.

[Anonymous No.4477993]

>>4477816
Deffinitely! It gets wicked hard at times, but that's Ecco for you and it's worth it. Shit gets crazy.

[Anonymous No.4478479]

>>4475505
So you want to look like a hipster but not be lumped in with them?

[Anonymous No.4479065]

>>4473750
Well it's not like he could use the dolphins' real life enemies (Japs)

[Anonymous No.4479073]

>>4477001
No, it's just that 98% of people listen to what's on the radio, and so with games you're getting exposed to more stuff.

[Anonymous No.4479641]

>>4479073
Wouldn't that be a good reason for them to do non-game music then though? If 98% of people are listening to the radio, we could have them all hearing trippy Tim Follin music instead of Teylor Swift.

[Anonymous No.4481228]

>>4479065
All humans are dolphins real life enemies.

[Anonymous No.4483767]

>>4476056
Good times

[Anonymous No.4484614]

>>4476149
Not him but
Minecraft?
>Ark Survival Evolved
>FireWatch
>Tersology
>Terraria
>Stardew Valley
>Starbound
>Trove
>CubeWorld
>StarForge
>Medieval Engineers
>Space Engineers
>Rust
>No Man's Sky
>FortNight
>Fallout 4

All of these games has something pretty major in common, Anon. And this is just the Minecraft craze. How about we cast that critical eye on the competitive FPS genre?

TF2?
>Overwatch
>Battleborn
>Quake Champions
>StarWars BF2
>Paladins
>Gigantic
>Dirty Bomb
>Block n' Load
>LawBreakers

Oh but hey, these are all totally unique to one another, right? Let's continue on another subject. How about Open-World games? I mean, there hasn't been a huge push to shoe-horn that tag into LITERALLY EVERYTHING, has there?
Certainly not. I mean, Skyrim is still totally unique.
>Dragon's Dogma
>Arcania Gothic 4
>Risen 3
>Witcher 3
>Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor
>FarCry 4
>FarCry: Primal
>Dragon Age: Inquisiton
>Horizon Zero Dawn
>Breath of the Wild

Just some examples. I'm sure all of these games are completely memorable on their own and don't get muddled with any "Samey" feelings whatsoever. They're all their own thing. They're not following trends in the slightest.

Y'know, I'm not saying that this didn't happen in the 80's or 90's, but what I am saying is that most of those titles that were pretty much doing the same thing over and over didn't get praised as much and quietly went back to the "literally who" territory they belonged in, because lets face it, outside of Doom, the only games ever really mentioned are Marathon, Blood, Redneck Rampage, and maybe a couple of others, but everyone still knew which shooter was king.
Platformers?
>Sonic
>Mario
>Bubsy
>Earthworm Jim
Each had their own distinctions that made them plenty different from the others, and the rest of the platformers people typically played never got the same amount of attention. The Animaniacs platformer on Genesis? Sure it was fun, but it was nowhere near as popular.

Just food for thought.

[Anonymous No.4485474]

>>4484614
I literally can't tell who you're agreeing with. Your tone would imply you agree with the guy saying few games now have a unique feeling. But then you mention a bunch of games inspired by mibecraft that have very different feelings to them. Then a bunch of open world games which are very different except fir their open world natures.

Wereyiu trying to say there's more variation between Mario and Sonic than Stardew Valley, Minecraft and Fallout 4? It's a little weird.

[Anonymous No.4486053]

>>4485474
>lacking reading comprehension this much

[Anonymous No.4486072]

>>4486053
Lol obviously I knew what you were going for, but you made your argument so badly that it almost came out like you're agreeing with me.

[Anonymous No.4486130]

>>4477816

Its unironically the best Ecco

The OST is god tier and swimming is comfy as fuck. The graphics look great too

[Anonymous No.4487387]

>>4486130
Any difference between Dreamcast and PS2 versions?

[Anonymous No.4487732]

>>4487387

PS2 looks worse, imo. Muddier graphics and I think the sound is better on DC

[Anonymous No.4487756]

>>4475251
Ganbatte anon!
I remember a big Ecco thread from a while back and some guy chronicled his first foray into the game in it. He said he was going to try and hold his breath whenever Ecco did. Don't think I've seen him post since...

[Anonymous No.4489493]

>>4487756
That's how it usually goes. Many more people try out Ecco than end up playing it through. Which makes sense, it's fairly tough and nothing else is quite like it so there's a lot of learning to get past. And even then it's deffinitely not for everyone. Still I am always happy they at least tried it.

[Anonymous No.4489562]

>>4487732
I compared the two versions some time ago and I think it actually looks marginally better on PS2. The resolution is slightly smaller but it looks like they threw in a few extra special effects (e.g. enhanced lighting) to make up for it.

That's not the real appeal of the PS2 version though. What makes it better is the revised and improved level design in a few places.

[Anonymous No.4490049]

I hope we get that third game someday. I just hope Ed doesn't get too political with it like he did with that shit kickstarter he tried a few years ago.

[Anonymous No.4490062]

Ecco the Dolphin and The Tides of Times are two of the most atmospheric games of the 16 bit era.

[Anonymous No.4490495]

I have really fond memories of renting Defender of the Future 15 years or so ago. I just bought a copy. Looking forward to revisiting it!
I've dabbled in the Genesis titles over the years since then but they're definitely very difficult and I've never really stuck it out with one. I just love the atmosphere and presentation so much, though; I always want to get through it... So far the series has been been more of something I've admired from a distance, I guess.

[Anonymous No.4490570]

>>4490049
Funny because I want it as well but hope he makes it even more on the nose about environmentalism.

[Anonymous No.4490603]

>>4490570
>on the nose
oy vey

[Anonymous No.4492985]

>>4490495
I would give it a shot someday. It's a different kind of challenge from most games, but generally not super difficult. It's really about planning ahead and then not freaking out under pressure.

[Anonymous No.4494872]

It's about time we had another good Ecco thread!

[Anonymous No.4495153]

>>4484614
>Stardew Valley is Minecraft-inspired
Do you even play retro games? Ever heard of Harvest Moon?

[Anonymous No.4495235]

>>4487756
>>4489493
p sure that was me, don't count me out of the game yet. I made it to(past?) all the ice crab bullshit, I'll make it further still. Just taking a little break

[Anonymous No.4495401]

>>4495235
Nice. You're a good chunk through now. Ice Crabs are a pain.

[Anonymous No.4495710]

Ah yes, Ecco threads, the only threads on /vr/ that descend into DUDE WEED, bestiality, /x/, and autism.

[Anonymous No.4496632]

>>4494872
That's meta.

[Anonymous No.4497376]

>>4495153
That might be one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on /vr.

[Anonymous No.4499587]

I wish I knew where the trend of weird glitchy Ecco gifs started, there's so many now.

[Anonymous No.4500142]

Ecco knew birthdays were the worst days now he sips champagne when he's thirst-ay.

[Anonymous No.4500187]

For the first two games, Sega CD or Mega Drive?

[Anonymous No.4500198]

>>4500187
Not sure about the second game, but Ecco 1 has more levels on Sega CD.
And real life dolphin footage on FMV