Breath of Fire Thread

[Anonymous No.4461594]

Breath of Fire (GBA) now has both a color and sound restoration patch. This on top of the GBA version's improvements and other available patches (like text cleanup patch which change some names to what would later become canon names like Bleu to Deis and Tyr to Myria) now make this version the definitive version. The sound restoration patch was done by the same guy behind the FF GBA music patches.

Has anyone tried the "Breath of Fire Improved" hack? Is it too hard or does it just do what it says it does? "play more like the later games in the series, plus a few tweaks"

https://www.romhacking.net/?page=hacks&genre=&platform=&game=1737&category=&perpage=20&title=&author=&hacksearch=Go

[Anonymous No.4461596]

Hell yeah. No need for SNES anymore, just slap on the color hack, text cleanup, and sound restoration.

[Anonymous No.4461607]

What's the point of tweaking exp and gold rates when the battle system is the same old boring shit

[Anonymous No.4461609]

>>4461607
Less grinding. IIRC the GBA versions also tweaked the encounter rate to be lower. So you do less of the same old boring shit, making it less boring.

[Anonymous No.4461612]

>>4461609
>GBA versions also tweaked the encounter rate to be lower.
That's cool but Marble3 items actually fucking work as intended in BoF1 and completely negate encounters.

[Anonymous No.4461619]

>text cleanup

I'm sorry, is swapping names supposed to make it on par with the SNES fan-translation, or is the GBA version fully fixed?

And more importantly, why the fuck hasn't anyone retranslated the first game? I want to know what the fuck Ryu's sister was talking about when she died.

[Anonymous No.4461624]

>>4461619
Still just stuff to clean up the item names and update terms, I'm afraid.

I heard after BoF2's translation that the first GBA game was going to get the same treatment from the same guy. Guess it never panned out.

[Anonymous No.4461627]

>>4461609
I believe the experience gains in the GBA games were straight-up doubled. That said, why not just patch the SNES versions to do that instead of trying to fix a version which will still be inferior post-patching because of a cropped screen?

[Anonymous No.4461631]

Too bad the game needs an entire re-write and not just a simple name fix patch.

[Anonymous No.4461637]

So I just read some reviews/thoughts on the BoF Improved hack and it seem that the changes weren't too indepth. i.e Spell damage and MP costs are unchanged so Bleu's later spells still have a weird MP cost to damage relationship, Puka is even more broken than before, there's still no reason to not use Karn's fusions over the fusion recipe characters, etc.

>>4461619
It's the same original translation from the SNES game minus the name changes. There was some talk on the Dragon Tear forums of BoF1 getting a similar retranslation to 2, but those forums are now dead and the talk of the project was years ago and considering there's no news/announcement/finished patch I guess it's dead.

[Anonymous No.4461643]

>>4461619
Incidentally, have you tried LEARNING JAPANESE

[Anonymous No.4461647]

>>4461627
>That said, why not just patch the SNES versions to do that instead of trying to fix a version which will still be inferior post-patching because of a cropped screen?
Apparently the GBA games are easier to hack for some reason. I saw that mentioned as a rebuttal to someone asking why no one's hacking the SNES rom instead. So my guess is better docs and debugging tools are available.

And honestly, once BoF1's sound and color is fixed, the other bonuses like the new UI are major enough for me to overlook the resolution drop.

[Anonymous No.4461649]

>>4461643
Come on anon, I want to know what the fuck she's saying too but not enough to put aside the time to learn Japanese. I'll never get this argument.

[Anonymous No.4461671]

To this day, I have no idea what happened to that party member who was being possessed by a ghost.

[Anonymous No.4461678]

>>4461647
GBA games are easier to hack, specially to insert text translations, because the console itself can see the whole memory of the cartridge at once. So no stuff like changing banks like in NES/SNES games. You can just put your translated text anywhere in the ROM and point to it.

[Anonymous No.4461683]

If the Wyndian clan gets SCALE'd every time a Nina meets a Ryu, why are Ryus never born as Wyndian royalty?

[Anonymous No.4461690]

>>4461683
Every Ryu except the one from 2 is a pure dragon.

[Anonymous No.4461712]

>>4461627
>why not just patch the SNES versions to do that instead of trying to fix a version which will still be inferior post-patching because of a cropped screen?
It's a turn based RPG, does that really matter that much? I can understand with platformers and such, but it really doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.4461849]

>>4461649
Sure you do. Just lie to yourself to justify your laziness.
Knowing Japanese is almost as important as being able to see when it comes to retro games.

[Anonymous No.4461867]

>>4461690
They should have had one that wasn't. Would have been a neat twist. Make him turn into some sort of bird dragon thing.

[Anonymous No.4461909]

>>4461594
I played BoF 1 and it's shit, so why does this matter again? Might as well say someone made improvements to GBA ports of FF1 or DQ1, because those are totally good games, too.

[Anonymous No.4462025]

BoF is literally a slightly prettier NES JRPG on the SNES

[Anonymous No.4462052]

Cool. Now we just need someone to apply the retranslation to bof2 GBA.

[Anonymous No.4462158]

>>4461867
They have one that's only 1/8192 dragon

[Anonymous No.4462206]

>>4461683
A Ryuna would be pretty awesome, alas, CAPCOM.

[Anonymous No.4462251]

>>4461594
Sound restoration is awesome, but to be honest I like the brighter/saturated, more vivid colors of the GBA remake. It suits the game's world better, I think.

>>4462052
Hopefully a NEW retranslation, because while technically impressive, the writing of the SNES retranslation is abysmal.

[Anonymous No.4462283]

>>4462251
>Hopefully a NEW retranslation, because while technically impressive, the writing of the SNES retranslation is abysmal.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that it isn't infinitely better than the original translation but there are certain points (I remember in Jean's scenario specifically) where you can tell that the translator tried SO HARD to channel Woosley that the dialog just ends up being cringey

[Anonymous No.4462290]

Yes, what an improvement. Let's make the game give you a shitload of gold and exp to remove any semblance of difficulty and combat strategy. Jesus Christ, jrpg remakes are disgusting.

[Anonymous No.4462309]

>>4462290
It was never a remake, just a lazier type of port. Though granted, technically it's better off than the FF ports when it comes to managing speed.

[Anonymous No.4463206]

>>4462309
Yeah, technically speaking the BoF ports are better than the FF ones. I've never experienced any slow down and battles in 2 can get much flashier than VI's.

[Anonymous No.4463212]

>>4463206
All of Capcom's GBA ports were that good. The only issue was that platformers had more end screen snipers.

[Anonymous No.4463271]

I actually have BoFIV in the mail at the moment, expected to come tomorrow at earliest. I've already played it on my hacked psp some time ago but I want to do a new playthrough since I didn't fully appreciate some of the smaller things like the fairy village and fishing. Looking forward to actually playing it on a crt, the small screen of the psp really can't capture how beautiful it is.

[Anonymous No.4463785]

>>4461594
You know you can't polish a turd, right?

[Anonymous No.4463823]

haven't played BoF 1 and 2 since i was a kid, how did they fuck up the translation

[Anonymous No.4463974]

Where's his Nina?

[Anonymous No.4464313]

>>4463823
I think that BoF1 has a decentish translation outside of the name shortening due to the character limit. There's names changes like Builder to Ox (and weird ones like Bleu to Deis and Danq to Karn) but what most people would notice are definitely the item names which make the game feel more dated than it is. You can tell what most things are, but there's stuff like "W.Ptn", "Mrbl3" and things that just don't look good like "HrGlas" and "LoveBR".

BoF2 on the other hand has all of BoF1's problems and then some:
http://legendsoflocalization.com/breath-of-fire-ii-super-nes-localization-review/

[Anonymous No.4464356]

>>4464313
>I think that BoF1 has a decentish translation

"No."

[Anonymous No.4464364]

>>4464313
BoF1's translation is bad in the sense that you sometimes don't have any idea what just happened. There is an event someone mentioned above, where a party member is being possessed by a ghost. You probably need to watch that scene 2 or 3 times to understand what happened, because the text doesn't make any sense.

[Anonymous No.4464375]

>>4464313
>the "Nikanoru" line was supposed to be a reference to a Gabriel Garcia Marques quote

huh

[Anonymous No.4464380]

>>4464375
Some foreign books/movies are really popular in Japan for some weird reason.

[Anonymous No.4464512]

>>4464380
It's funny. Somewhere over on 2chan someone is possibly saying
that いくつかの日本のテレビ番組やアニメは、いくつかの奇妙な理由で、アメリカで本当に人気があります。

[Anonymous No.4464751]

>>4464313
>>4464364
The difference is mostly that BoF1 is just kinda bad in general, BoF2 is both bad and so incompetently written it looks like Google Translate at the time, making the shittiness of it a whole lot more visible.

[Anonymous No.4464775]

>>4464751
It's also a lot more fun, when BoF1 fails it's just puzzling and bland, when BoF2 fails (which is a lot more often) it's often really hilarious.

[Anonymous No.4464803]

>>4464512
Elfen Lied for one, much more popular in the west than in Japan. Season 2 fucking NEVER

[Anonymous No.4464818]

So I got momo with shadowwalk, and war song. Just destroying. Ryu will have supercombo and Rei is tiger mode tearing everything up.