Who thought "Yeah, that looks good. Let's make half the game look like that."

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Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:28:03 2017 No.4455829 [Reply] [Original]

Who thought "Yeah, that looks good. Let's make half the game look like that."

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:33:09 2017 No.4455832 >>4455829 The fact that your ship is sucked to the center in its horizontal axis of the stage in those vertical stages is the worst part of the game. I still like it though, but I'm a fan of the genre so that's not saying much

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:43:13 2017 No.4455841 >>4455829 this is why i don't like this game

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:09:37 2017 No.4455863 >>4455829 I'm surprised this game never caught my eye. Never knew of it until now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 04:11:01 2017 No.4455907 wtf I hate mode7 now

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 06:14:07 2017 No.4456004 >>4455832 Happens in the horizontal stages too sometimes. It doesn't ruin the game or anything, but it's an annoying thing to lose lives for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 06:26:13 2017 No.4456017 >>4455907 It's not Mode 7 goddamn it. SNESbabbies need to stop calling every single screen effect Mode 7. It's a fucking HDMA trick, which is not by any means unique to SNES.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 06:33:27 2017 No.4456023 >>4456017 Thank you for your input, captain obvious. I was making fun of the people that complain about "mode7" when there's no mode7.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 10:13:01 2017 No.4456265

>>4455829
its the best space ship shooter. And I like the change of the two styles. Reminds me of super probotector. Did the same to spice it up and it works. I think only fans of those other boring side scroller shmups don't like axelay. Axelay is perfect aside from lack of fanservice (cough parodius cough)...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 10:13:58 2017 No.4456267 >>4455829 It's made by Treasure staff. That's why it's so shitty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 10:15:37 2017 No.4456270 >>4456017 Wow. Nobody cares.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 10:21:40 2017 No.4456276 >>4456270 He's right, it's not Mode7.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 10:38:51 2017 No.4456306 >>4456267 RSG was inspired by it but no actual Treasure staff worked on Axelay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 11:29:04 2017 No.4456369 >>4455829 I will never forget that I bought my copy of this game years ago on ebay from a tow truck company that would auction off unclaimed shit it found it cars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 11:42:40 2017 No.4456397 >>4456004 The way you move slower while getting further from the center and how you accelerate if you move to the center throws you off a lot. What's this, an euroshmup by Konami?

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 12:07:25 2017 No.4456436
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>>4456004
I've never felt like it threw me off unfairly, but I've also noticed that I think that the center's pull is turned off in the boss fights. Weird, huh?

>>4455829
This game is konami's pic related

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:01:03 2017 No.4456591 >>4456267 The designer of the shitty Rocket Knight game (the one on SNES) actually made Axelay. Makes u think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:02:39 2017 No.4456595 >>4456591 >shitty Rocket Knight game (the one on SNES) I thought people liked that one, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:05:23 2017 No.4456598 >>4456023 Good recover anon :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:08:15 2017 No.4456603 File: 86 KB, 640x890, rka.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4456595 Nah, people like this one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:09:10 2017 No.4456606 >>4456603 I like all 3 of them

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:11:43 2017 No.4456608 >>4456606 I like the Sega one because I played it as a kid. The Sega sequel I also like, because while it's not as good, the mechanics are different, so it feels like some sort of evolution. I've never played the SNES version, but it looks pretty fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:11:49 2017 No.4456609 >>4456606 Only the first one was good because it was made by Contra Man. RKA2 was made by a random artist from the first game and Sparkster was made by Axelay Man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:16:57 2017 No.4456623 >>4456609 While RKA1 was better, I think they're all great, don't get the hate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:17:14 2017 No.4456625 >>4456598 Thanks for the (You), but I didn't need it so I give it back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:36:51 2017 No.4456668 >>4456623 Tribalism, plain and simple. Humans will be embroiled in pointless battles of "my thing is better than your thing" until we wither and die.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:39:10 2017 No.4456674

>>4456668
Yeah, this happens with everything, but especially with video games since consoles were expensive and it was rare that a kid owned both (or more) systems, so they're not only defending their tribe, they're defending their own sacred realm that is their childhood.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:40:29 2017 No.4456676 File: 35 KB, 254x387, cv_x68k.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4456609 >shitting on Ueda He designed the best 16-bit Castlevania game, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:41:23 2017 No.4456678 >>4456676 Ueda designed Rondo of Blood?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:41:31 2017 No.4456679 >>4456676 >most hipster 16-bit Castlevania ftfy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:42:34 2017 No.4456683 File: 142 KB, 816x587, giggle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4456678 >Rondo of Moeshit >good

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 15:47:16 2017 No.4456807 >>4456683 (you)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:40:47 2017 No.4456887 >>4456678 >pc engine >16-bits

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:49:47 2017 No.4456907 >>4456887 16 bit actually refers to color depth which the PC Engine most certainly was.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:27:53 2017 No.4456951 >>4456887 >bits

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:37:56 2017 No.4456974 >>4456907 Nope, it always refers to the CPU.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:40:08 2017 No.4456980 File: 19 KB, 320x320, bonk_bash.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4456887 >Turbografx-16 >not 16-bit

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:43:23 2017 No.4456991 >>4456974 This is bait, right?

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:47:29 2017 No.4456997

>>4456991
Nintendo 64 is called that because it's actually a 64-bit architecture.

>Processor: 93.75 MHz NEC VR4300, based on MIPS R4300i-series 64-bit RISC CPU.

>64-bit RISC CPU

TG-16 is actually false advertising.

>Hudson Soft HuC6280 8-bit microprocessor operating at 1.79 MHz and 7.16 MHz

>8-bit CPU

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:49:55 2017 No.4457001 >>4456997 Why NEC didn't release a successor to the PC Engine in '90-'91 instead of just re-branding it as a "16-bit" console always puzzled me.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:55:50 2017 No.4457013

>>4456997
>The TurboGrafx-16 has an 8-bit CPU, a 16-bit video color encoder, and a 16-bit video display controller.
>The TurboGrafx-16 has an 8-bit CPU, a 16-bit video color encoder, and a 16-bit video display controller.
>The TurboGrafx-16 has an 8-bit CPU, a 16-bit video color encoder, and a 16-bit video display controller.
>The TurboGrafx-16 has an 8-bit CPU, a 16-bit video color encoder, and a 16-bit video display controller.
>The TurboGrafx-16 has an 8-bit CPU, a 16-bit video color encoder, and a 16-bit video display controller.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:56:45 2017 No.4457015 >>4455829 Yeah, that does look good. Picture's a little dark but you can adjust your screen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:02:13 2017 No.4457025 >>4457015 In fact the game itself has three settings for brightness lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:26:46 2017 No.4457061 >>4457001 Supergrafx (89 but still

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:34:20 2017 No.4457074 >>4457013 Processor is more important than video chip. See: action games ran better on Megadrive than SNES. Unless you're a graphics whore, the video chip is literally meaningless.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:36:43 2017 No.4457076 >>4457074 What MD fighting game runs as well as Gundam W Endless Duel?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:53:54 2017 No.4457098 >>4457076 What SNES shmup runs as well as Trouble Shooter Vintage?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:55:09 2017 No.4457102 >>4457098 All of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:56:05 2017 No.4457105 >>4457076 >a fucking fighting game Of course the SNES can handle that, it only has to draw 2 sprites on a single static background. Also Yu Yu Hakusho on MD is more impressive, amazing use of parallax plus 4 fighters all on the same field.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:57:12 2017 No.4457108 >>4457102 Why are Nintendo fanboys such poor liars?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:57:35 2017 No.4457109 >>4457098 >>4457105 I was asking for real. Yeah Yu Yu Hakusho is really good too, not as impressive as Endless Duel in terms of sprite size and animation detail, but it manages to have 4 characters on screen at once.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:58:10 2017 No.4457112 >>4457105 I tried to get into that game but it seems clunky as all hell. Is there a trick or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:58:39 2017 No.4457114 >>4457098 Super Aleste runs pretty good

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:04:37 2017 No.4457123 >>4457108 You realize the shmup community consider your favorite games dumbed down casual baby garbage?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:05:53 2017 No.4457125 >>4457123 Why didn't Toaplan, the arcade elitist's favorite shmup company, make any games for the SNES?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:06:20 2017 No.4457126 >>4457123 anything that's not some looping bullet hell shit is dumbed down garbage to them

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:07:59 2017 No.4457128

Why are people even arguing about this, the SNES processor is much slower than the Megadrive's without assistance via chips. This is a fact, and it was something that lead to games with more sprites at the same time on the Megadrive and therefore more hectic actions in genres like shmups.

Wasn't this the reason Treasure decided to make their makes in the MD despite the fact that it was a much smaller market in Japan?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:09:01 2017 No.4457130 >>4457125 >Toaplan, the arcade elitist's favorite shmup company ????

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:09:49 2017 No.4457132 >>4457123 That's beside the point. When I want to enjoy a shmup, I'd rather it not be dropping frames all over the place struggling to display more than 7 sprites like what happens on the Super Nintendo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:10:45 2017 No.4457135 >>4457128 Because despite on-paper specs, some MD games still ran terribly and some SNES games ran pretty flawless. But hey, BLAST PROCESSING! LET'S PUT THE 68000 HEART ON FIRE! both MD and SNES are the best consoles ever

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:11:59 2017 No.4457137

>>4457125
It's obvious, they'd have run even more like ass on that console lol

Even though it's true that console shmups are a bit dumbed down this happens to ALL genres when you compare the arcade titles to home exclusives.

Even though I'm a big Toaplan fan myself I can still find some fun in the console shmups of the era, they provide slightly more relaxed runs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:12:06 2017 No.4457138 >>4457130 toe-uh-plon was objectively the best '80s shmup dev and gave us cave, raizing, takumi, etc.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:15:29 2017 No.4457141

>>4457135
Of course, some games were made so they didn't slow down on SNES and some slowed down on the MD because they put too much shit on it, this is basic stuff. Doesn't change the fact that MD has a bigger selection of these high octane games and/or are more hectic.

No prob I still like the SNES even though I prefer the MD. Macross: Scrambled Valkyrie is good on the former, for example.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:15:49 2017 No.4457142 >>4457138 Yeah... but they ain't Irem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:16:56 2017 No.4457146 >>4457138 not him but I agree, as I said I love their games. Though I have to admit most western fans I've coma across are more "danmaku" fans and don't pay much attention to these older shmups, so he has a point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:18:32 2017 No.4457148 >>4457141 >muh MD >muh Macross Fucking weeabo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:25:20 2017 No.4457157 >>4457148 I'm from Europe and I haven't watched / don't give a crap about Macross (or anime in general), it's a good game by itself. btw having to deal with avoiding PAL releases and playing the superior versions is a pain here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:28:34 2017 No.4457161 File: 421 KB, 723x394, dyrl_vf1ja_857_missiles.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4457157 Macross is really good, at least watch the movie (Do You Remember Love?)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:30:39 2017 No.4457168 >>4457142 >Irem Almost as overrated as Treasure. R-Type is babby's first memorizer.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:31:42 2017 No.4457170

>>4457161
Nah, I dislike the animation (lol mouth flaps) and voice acting of anime in general, and usually the plot and characters.

Also, how funny that someone calls other a "weeabo" here by liking the MD when it was the least popular console by far compared to the SFC and even the PCE in Japan lol

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:35:09 2017 No.4457176

>>4457168
Even if you like Irem one cannot ignore the impact Toaplan had on the genre (particularly the vertical ones) and also the fact they were mainly a shoot'em up developing company while other big name companies making shmups then like Irem, Konami and Taito didn't focus as much on the genre exclusively.

Raiden was the last big arcade shmup in the west and it's pretty much a Toaplan clone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:35:18 2017 No.4457179 >>4457170 >MD Stop.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:38:47 2017 No.4457185 >>4457168 Post your R-Type WR then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:39:27 2017 No.4457190 File: 664 KB, 411x488, boomer.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4457179 >current year >being a burger

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:40:03 2017 No.4457192 >>4457179 Why does that trigger you so much lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:40:19 2017 No.4457193 >>4457170 Macross has a lot of good animation. Forget about the mouths, it's all about the itano circus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzXfVgYCxWI

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:41:30 2017 No.4457196 >>4457192 You're not Japanese. Don't say it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:42:57 2017 No.4457202 >>4457196 It was also called MD in Europe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:44:33 2017 No.4457206 >>4457196 Holy shit dude, I hope you're trolling

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:51:20 2017 No.4457217 >>4457185 Don't need to. A 2-ALL has a mere 29 on http://www.wikihouse.com/stg/index.php?STG%A5%E9%A5%F3%A5%AF%B0%EC%CD%F7 which proves it's babby-tier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:55:42 2017 No.4457225 File: 43 KB, 1062x800, Emma.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4457217 >accuses game of babby-tier >can't post any own score Typical shmup poser. I bet you're underage and your first shmup was touhou shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 20:02:21 2017 No.4457239 >>4457217 >"mere" 29 >Above battle garegga, a hibachi clear of a dodonpachi game, and just under gradius iii ?????

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 20:17:42 2017 No.4457274 >>4457217 Dude, the fact that R-Type is heavy on memorization doesn't make it WOW EASY BABBY easy to execute even when you have it memorized. Stop parroting nonsense and play the games

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 20:40:18 2017 No.4457329

>>4457239
>Above battle garegga,
Using the most OP (non-secret) ship...

>a hibachi clear of a dodonpachi game,
DOJBL lets you fight Hibachi in the first loop.

>just under gradius iii
That's a 1-ALL in Gradius 3. Add 10 extra points for clearing two loops.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 20:43:40 2017 No.4457334 >>4457274 Yes, it does. Once you learn the safespots in R-Type, the game becomes a cakewalk. Not to mention the bosses are all pathetically easy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 20:44:59 2017 No.4457338 >>4457334 What about scoring?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 20:46:52 2017 No.4457348 >>4457225 Even if I posted a score, you wouldn't believe it was me. And nah, 2hu is wank.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 20:48:15 2017 No.4457350 >>4457338 R-Type is a survival game like Gradius, the scoring system is nothing to write home about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 21:11:02 2017 No.4457393 >>4457350 Still, scoring must be harder than sitting in some safespot to just clear it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 21:39:25 2017 No.4457456 >>4457348 Weak excuse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 00:12:22 2017 No.4457795 File: 363 KB, 480x360, axelay.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nice programming, Konami. ROFL

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 00:22:29 2017 No.4457806 >>4457795 Wait, those things don't crush you? They forgot to add the hitbox? What's this, reverse Gradius III arcade?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 01:05:35 2017 No.4457883 >>4457196 it was called the Mega Drive worldwide EXCEPT in obesityland

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 01:07:49 2017 No.4457887 >>4457883 >except in the only place that matters

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 01:19:30 2017 No.4457904 >>4457887 The console sold well in general in PAL territories

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 04:13:10 2017 No.4458051 >>4457806 SNES is so casual a system they need to turn off all hitboxes

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 04:28:42 2017 No.4458074
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>>4455832
>>4456004

THis is plain wrong. On horizontal stages your ship gets never sucked anywhere except for the last pre boss, who opens or magnetizes the walls which makes sense.
In the last stage at the beginning with the huge battleships, you don't get sucked anywhere. THEY chase towards you, and because you are in free space, YOU think you get sucked towards them, which is just wrong. Same in "3D" vertical stages. You don't get sucked towards the center ever. There is the mid boss in level 1 which again chases you.

So conclusion: Never at any place in any level you get sucked anywhere except the last pre boss WHO USES FUCKING MAGNETS... kids nowadays lack understanding of what is going on...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 05:03:31 2017 No.4458092 File: 2.83 MB, 512x448, axe.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4458074 Then what do you call these shenanigans? and how do I turn off the input display for the second controller

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 05:33:57 2017 No.4458101 >>4455829 Never played Axelay, but this looks pretty good. Apart from the perspective of the further-away ships. >>4456023 >I was only pretending to be retarded.

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 12:28:39 2017 No.4458584

>>4458074
Play the first stage. If you move to the right and then let go, your ship moves on its own until it's on the center.

Also, move right again. Notice the speed. Then immediately after move left, until you reach the center you move faster than before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 12:29:59 2017 No.4458586 >people have not played Axelay How? This game was fucking huge when it came out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 12:30:58 2017 No.4458589 >>4458586 Kids and /v/irgins

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 12:33:27 2017 No.4458592 >>4458586 1: Never owned a SNES 2: Not into horizontal shooters

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 12:36:16 2017 No.4458597 >>4458592 As a shmup fan I've never understood why some people only like one perspective. Being horizontal doesn't change the gameplay, really

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 13:40:48 2017 No.4458684 >>4457806 Sometimes they crush you, sometimes they don't. I think it's when they're moving is when the hitbox doesn't work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 13:41:41 2017 No.4458685 >>4458101 >I was only pretending to be retarded. ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 13:46:08 2017 No.4458698 File: 35 KB, 654x229, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4458597 usually horizontal orientation implies collidable walls

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 14:15:13 2017 No.4458757 >>4458101 It looks worse in motion. It's like they stuck a bunch of flat images on a rolling cylinder that spins as you're going forward.

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 14:19:19 2017 No.4458762

>>4458698
Though I have to admit there are more horiz with terrain collision, there are plenty without and also verts with.

You could've just said you dislike the walls. Still, why? Too claustrophobic? Too slow paced compared to manic shooters? (speed sections in Gradius aren't slow tho)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 14:19:34 2017 No.4458763 >>4458698 Vertical can have towers or other structures you can run into. Or space debris.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 14:28:53 2017 No.4458773 >>4458763 Like in the vertical stages of... Axelay lol And IIRC MUSHA has them too in some stages. And if you say "those are console shmups" then you have Salamander's vertical stages as another example.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 15:45:50 2017 No.4458921 >>4458773 Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga also have actual level designs. Not sure why empty stages became the standard for vertical STGs, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 15:55:12 2017 No.4458937 >>4458773 Yeah and Image Fight.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 15:56:17 2017 No.4458939 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_D5qAwerOk

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 16:00:24 2017 No.4458941 >>4458921 Probably because Toaplan set the standard and their games didn't have'em Still, I don't know why this anon and a lot of other people I've seen that like shmups hate terrain in shmups >>4458939 Go play Mars Matrix

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 16:02:12 2017 No.4458945
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>>4458074
Okay I made this video to underline my point:
The ships position is always correct in the world, you don't get dragged. It's the camera that moves. The ships position always stays correct to bullets, other ships and walls. Only the camera moves.
As a game dev I can say the following: What you see is not how the game is calculated. IF you code a game, like axelay or an isometric adventure, the whole game is rendered in a 2d flat grid. How you render the visuals can be completely different, like for example in a isometric game, where everything looks isometric, thought in the code the game is as 2d like zeldaIII for example.
Another thing that beginners to gamedev confuses is, that in games like marioworld or megamanX the main character is barely moving. What is moving is the world around him. The world is what is shifted/translated when the player "moves around in the world". The player doesnt notice it, but the developer does.
So yeah, you are right, in a few instances it can look like the ship is dragged, but gameplay wise it is not.

>>4458092
That looks like either a bug to me, or these balls do indeed attract you. I gotta test that. I know in this world the snailshellaliens drag you down. Either you got some bug where out of screen shells drag you down, or that ball attracts you, or something really weird is happening there, but I dont remember this happening to me :S Check my video, there you see that the "drag" in the first world is only the camera moving with an easening. It is not the ship beeing dragged. Look at bullets and enemies and walls. You position stays correct.

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 16:13:02 2017 No.4458969

>>4458945
While we are talking about this game, this game has some of the best audio on snes:
https://youtu.be/vU_Kwbg-DQg

Pretty long song and I love the part at 1:08 where you can hear the boss in the distance:
https://youtu.be/dRNcpQLP_Ng

Best 2d space ship shooter

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 16:15:51 2017 No.4458973 >>4458945 In any case it happens and it can disorient an throw you off until you get used to it. the Gradius games have some infinitely looping levels as well and they don't do this stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 16:16:58 2017 No.4458975 >>4458969 Wouldn't say "best" but still on the good side

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 16:17:37 2017 No.4458979 >>4458973 Yeah, true, for new players this sure is confusing. I have to think really hard back to my time as kid and not understanding it :) yep, adds to the learning curve

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 16:26:57 2017 No.4458985 >>4458979 I like the game too, just that when you've played a lot of shmups and go back to this you have to readjust a lot

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 16:49:28 2017 No.4459008 File: 144 KB, 320x221, rtype3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4458969 >Best 2d space ship shooter Not even the best for the system, fampai.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 17:08:26 2017 No.4459039 File: 313 KB, 753x900, sfc-macross-front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4459008 the actual best I love all 3 still

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 18:12:38 2017 No.4459121 twitch,tv/psychotic_spoon axelay speedrun

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 02:24:32 2017 No.4459874 anyone played humans must answer? that game is crazy nuts hard...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 02:30:07 2017 No.4459878 >>4455829 Because it's looks good and it's play better Axelay is one of the best shooter ever made, fuck off

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 02:33:19 2017 No.4459880 >>4459121 nice stream.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 03:16:40 2017 No.4459920 >>4459878 Axelay is definitely Konami's worst STG, by far.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 11:56:20 2017 No.4460473 >>4459920 In any case it would be more like "the least good". Still, I disagree since Axelay is at leas better than their MSX or Game Boy ones due to the limited hardware (crappy scrolling in particular on the MSX ones and sluggish pace on the GB)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 13:53:48 2017 No.4460686 File: 26 KB, 100x150, what.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4459121 >speedrunning a shmup

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 14:11:08 2017 No.4460714 >>4460686 You can beat the bosses faster I guess. But yes, they're mostly autoscrolling, seems a bit dumb. You can compete for score which seems more intuitive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 14:50:24 2017 No.4460775 >>4460686 >>4460714 TAS can do some fun things though. Here's a run from a GDQ, Gradius on an NES Classic https://youtu.be/7CgXvIuZR40?t=212

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 15:26:37 2017 No.4460846 >>4460775 Already seen that, one of my favorite clips out of the entire GDQ catalogue. Maybe because it's not a speedrun, it's like a tool assisted demonstration for entertainment

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 23:45:09 2017 No.4461759 >>4460686 The autism of speedrunners knows no end. They'll even go out of their way to play poorly-coded ports of shmups because they have "lag management" and thus can be speedran.

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 00:37:20 2017 No.4461828

>>4455829
I liked it. Still do. Very slick effect (if pretty simple -- just change scroll parameters each line to select different lines of the background, resulting in a vertical scale effect).
Still mad that there never was a sequel.

>>4458945
it's a bit weird that they didn't tie the camera more tightly to the player's position
sliding cameras like this are definitely not a good idea in shmups

>>4456017
this
namely, you can't actually have the two independently scrolling layers if it was actually drawn with mode 7

>>4457338
don't bother

>>4459008
this would be such a better game if it just skipped the first stage
it's so boring

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 02:40:46 2017 No.4461947

>>4461759
>They'll even go out of their way to play poorly-coded ports of shmups because they have "lag management" and thus can be speedran.

wtf am I reading holy shit... speedrunners pls

>>4461828
>don't bother

Why not, buddy

>this would be such a better game if it just skipped the first stage
it's so boring

Have to agree on that. Boring first stages kill the fun of arcade style games a lot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 03:06:37 2017 No.4461970 >>4461759 >can be speedran can be speedrun FTFY

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 04:17:08 2017 No.4462040 Axelay had horizontal sections? Wow, that's cool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 04:19:52 2017 No.4462045 >>4455829 I enjoyed Axelay very much.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 11:00:20 2017 No.4462387 >>4462040 Yes, it's like a console spiritual successor to Salamander / Life Force in that regard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 14:52:14 2017 No.4464679 >>4462040 Half the game is horizontal.

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