Retro Fighters controller has Tranfer Pack issues...

[Anonymous No.4445473]

Well... it was too good to be true.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1247448559/next-gen-n64-nintendo-64-controller/posts/2064937

[Anonymous No.4445476]

Of course they're not going to stop production to fix it. They already have the money.

[Anonymous No.4445481]

That's a shame, but it's literally two games.
Neither of which require a good analog stick.

[Anonymous No.4445576]

>>4445473
At this point, I'm better off fixing the analog stick, replacing it with a better one. Screw this controller.

[Anonymous No.4445607]

Special shoutout to my homies who preordered to beta test this so I could find out if it's good or not first

[Anonymous No.4445616]

>>4445576
Yeah... I think I'm buying kitsch-bent gears, sand the rough edges of it and grease the gears...

it won't cost me 5 dollars and they'll be like new.

http://store.kitsch-bent.com/product/n64-joystick-gears

[Anonymous No.4445623]

>>4445473
Who is this for? Killer Instinct??? There are only a couple fighters on the system and they all suck. Who would waste money on a fighting pad for one?

[Anonymous No.4445629]

>>4445623
For anyone that has broken N64 controllers. And that's almost everyone.

[Anonymous No.4445634]

>>4445616
what rough edges are ou talking about? mine came in just perfectly smooth and i bought 6 complete sets of bowl, gears and clear joystick.

explain.

[Anonymous No.4445638]

>>4445634
It's in the description, it can come with rough edges, but I guess they're perfect/almost perfect.

It doesn't worth the trouble anymore to buy this Retro Fighters console. I find the N64 great, it has great ergonomics...

I'll just buy a silicone pad and glue it on the Kitch-bent stick.

[Anonymous No.4445640]

>>4445629
How? On what? I've never known anyone who's broken one, unless you meant wearing out the stick.

[Anonymous No.4445641]

>>4445616
Good idea. Thanks for the link.

[Anonymous No.4445647]

>>4445640
Yes, the stick.

[Anonymous No.4445672]

>Transfer Paks don't work

How in the holy fuck did they JUST find this out now?

[Anonymous No.4445673]

>>4445576
Maybe they'll fix it in the next iteration?

I'm pretty sure this controller will continue to sell...

But there's also the Z-triggers...

even though they activate as soon as you press them... they feel like a Xbox One trigger...

I'm not sure if this' good or not.

[Anonymous No.4445678]

>>4445672
Maybe they found out it much earlier but didn't fix the issue or the drivers... but they're saying it'll take them 90 days to fix it... so...

I don't know how they screw this up.

[Anonymous No.4445679]

>>4445607
You're welcome, I paid 20 dollars, which I make in 25 minutes at work.

[Anonymous No.4445683]

I don't actually care about the transfer pak thing. I care that this company LITERALLY JUST NOW found this out, DURING mass production.

It basically means they're full of shit about everything they're saying and have no idea what they're making.

[Anonymous No.4445695]

Oops!!!

[Anonymous No.4445696]

>>4445683
Yeah... that's how I felt too... I don't trust their analog stick anymore, it's probably good, but not perfect. I think it could have a resolution/gate problem...

The N64 gate is not perfectly octagonal, the Retro Fighter one is... I'm not sure if it'll be a good controller...

I'm buying this one and the NES one, I hope it works ok. They fixed the NES one issues, they'll probably fix the N64 one as well, because it'll sell pretty well if it's a good controller.

[Anonymous No.4445697]

>>4445696
If they send it to My Life in Gaming, we'll see the analysis.

[Anonymous No.4445702]

>>4445696
I just don't trust the feel of the controller, the buttons, the responsiveness, the sensitivity, anything, if they didn't even know one of the three things you plug in to the controller didn't work.

[Anonymous No.4445709]

>>4445473
The transfer pack? LOL, who gives a fuck, are you retarded? It's used by like 2 or 3 games and it's not like the rumble pack where you need it during actual gameplay. The thing is probably a piece of shit anyway, but to get upset over something so minor is fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.4445723]

Most 3rd party controllers (including the Hori mini) have issues with the Transfer Pak

[Anonymous No.4445735]

>>4445723
the transfer park is a wobbly deformed piece of shit that barely works on the standard n64 controller.

[Anonymous No.4445737]

>>4445735
pak*

[Anonymous No.4445738]

>>4445735
>>4445737
Yeah it would have been pretty incredible if they actually got it to work.

[Anonymous No.4445741]

>>4445638
ok then.

Im actually tempted to buy it just for teh sake of buying it, its 20 after all... only thing i would like to know is if the gears and rubber pads are standard pads for n64 or propietary.

[Anonymous No.4445797]

>>4445709

This exactly, if you have to transfer your precious pokemans just use a different controller.

[Anonymous No.4445849]

>>4445741
They're just like the original ones, all you need is to grease it a little bit after change the parts.

About the rubber pads... I think there's no difference between the original one and these ones.

They're all third party, but I think they'll work pretty ok.

Also, I'm thinking about gluing this things on the stick.

[Anonymous No.4445857]

>>4445616
I bought bowls and gears to replace in 4 of my controllers back in the spring, I see now it's apparently been improved. All I know is the ones I got in spring are near perfect or perfect enough. Just make sure to grease them. They're absolutely worth getting in my opinion.

>>4445849
Are these good for the analog caps on N64 controllers? I know the ones they make for Switch Joy Cons fit tight, but work too.

[Anonymous No.4445860]

>>4445473
I'll still never get over that A and B placement and how awkward its going to be to hit the c-buttons.

i feel like this controller is meant for 360 kiddies and not someone who is interested in improving the n64 controller.

[Anonymous No.4445867]

>>4445616
I was made a believer after I got my first order. I didn't get any cups for some reason but none of mine were that worn down so they still work great.

[Anonymous No.4445869]

>>4445860
They fixed the analogic gate, the A and B button placement is about ergonomics.

But the Z buttons are trigger like, with a spring, but hey activate as soon as you press. Pretty strange decision if you ask me.

But I guess they're reusing their NES controller mold, which has these trigger like buttons...

[Anonymous No.4446548]

>>4445473
>We wanted to keep the cost down as much as possible, yet not skimp on quality,
lyl

[Anonymous No.4446551]

>>4445481
>>4445673
>>4445709
>>4445735
>>4445723
>>4445738
>>4445797

[Anonymous No.4446557]

>>4445696
sorry if im ignorant, but whats so hard about remaking new n64 sticks? are optical sensors expensive? I heard that most cheap stick remakes use a different method for reading stick movement?

[Anonymous No.4446569]

can people stop fund shit like kickstarter so it forces people to put out quality if they want to sell

[Anonymous No.4446570]

>>4446569
b-b-but muh mighty no. 9 and yooka laylee games

[Anonymous No.4446579]

[Anonymous No.4446586]

>>4446579
>that d-pad location
>the closeness of all the face buttons
>the stubby handles

[Anonymous No.4446602]

>>4446586
When the fuck do even get to use the D-pad

[Anonymous No.4446613]

>>4446602
>Mischief Makers
>Tetris 64
>Dr. Mario 64
>Kirby 64
>WWF No Mercy

To name just a few

[Anonymous No.4446868]

>We appreciate everyone's feedback and we are continuing to look into the compatibility for the transfer pak. We are seeing a few common questions come up and want to make sure everyone knows they're heard and has an answer. We will continue to update the community as we know more.
Will the Transfer Paks be compatible in time for the color versions?
We cannot commit to this and is this is why we didn't delay the project.
We don't know the exact timeline, we think 90+ days for transfer pak compatibility,
Will this be resolved via firmware update?
We are looking into this however it is too early to know for sure.

I guess they're fixing it in the future iterations.

[Anonymous No.4446920]

>>4446868
>Will this be resolved via firmware update?
Wait, wat? How do you update an N64 controller's firmware?

[Anonymous No.4446936]

>>4445860
But this controller is an improvement. It doesn't have 3 handles.

[Anonymous No.4446943]

>>4446579
I have one of these, it is basically unusable as it seems designed for Japanese children only.

Official N64 is the only good controller for the system.

[Anonymous No.4446973]

>>4446936
There's no problem with the handles, they're actually very ergonomic.

[Anonymous No.4446989]

>>4446973
I second this, OG N64 was and continues to be fine.

[Anonymous No.4446991]

>>4446973
>ergonomic
>N64 controller
Pick one.

[Anonymous No.4447015]

>>4446920
how dumb are you?

[Anonymous No.4447017]

>>4447015
Very dumb, apparently. Please explain smart man.

[Anonymous No.4447029]

>>4446920
flash the bios

[Anonymous No.4447087]

>>4447017
SPOILER: This thread is not about the original N64-controller.

[Anonymous No.4447103]

>>4447087
I'm aware of that.
Does this new controller have a usb port on it or something? I thought it only had a N64 plug and an expansion port.

[Anonymous No.4447398]

I think people on the KS just want to bitch. The transfer pak is a shoddy, almost non-functional device even on real N64 controllers. It has a lot of issues. No third party controller could get it to work right especially if the first party couldn't.

[Anonymous No.4447416]

>>4447398
If a promise is made to you, and it's not delivered, you have a right to bitch.

I signed up for a tutorial kickstarter that's months past the deadline. The guy has a discord for it.

I was the first person to call him on it. It started a massive shitstorm and GUESS WHAT? He's actually working on the tutorial series again.

[Anonymous No.4447418]

>>4446551

[Anonymous No.4447443]

>>4445473
Whenever a kickstarter has to delay production, their backers go into an entitled frenzy wondering why their in-development product isn't at their doorstep RIGHT NOW.

[Anonymous No.4447447]

>>4447443
KS is cancerous due to this. People, too often, think they're BUYING a finished product, and not funding development.

[Anonymous No.4447471]

>>4446551
Hm, it's almost like the people making the controller are human and maybe, just maybe, can't fulfill every promise...

[Anonymous No.4447597]

>>4447471
They shouldn't have promised it if it didn't work.

[Anonymous No.4447609]

>>4446991
How is it not ergonomic?

Are you playing like this?

[Anonymous No.4447615]

I'mma repost my comment from kickstarter

>As disappointing as this is, I'm honestly not surprised. Most 3rd party controllers (including the Hori mini) have issues with the Transfer Pak, and I was expecting issues with it as well. It would be nice for there to be a revision later down the line with added compatibility, but I think you guys made the right call in leaving it out for the initial release rather than delaying it for 3 whole months, especially considering that most games that use it don't require it to be inserted into Player 1's controller anyway, and can thus be slapped in an original controller and stuck in slot 4.

So yeah. It sucks, but as long as the rest of the controller is up to par it's still going to be great. I already have 4 controllers for Pokemon stadium stuff, and it's not like Mario Tennis or Perfect Dark really have all that important features that'll be fucked up by it not working.

[Anonymous No.4447618]

>>4445723
Hori mini does work, but it's INCREDIBLY SLOW.

>it actually times out when trying to load Crystal in Stadium 2

[Anonymous No.4447642]

>>4446586
Don't forget the inaccurate analogue stick

N64 is doomed to have shitty controllers forever

[Anonymous No.4447652]

>>4447642
The analog stick is great, what are you on?

[Anonymous No.4447656]

>>4447652
It feels great and lasts long, but the Hori Mini analogue stick doesn't have the same precision and sensitivity as an official Nintendo 64 controller. Not a big deal for casual play though.

[Anonymous No.4447657]

>>4447652
If it was great, it wouldn't be so prone to failure

[Anonymous No.4447658]

>>4447657
I've never heard of a Hori mini stick failing.

[Anonymous No.4447759]

>>4447658
probably because they haven't all been raped by mario party.

[Anonymous No.4447782]

>>4447656
The Hori Mini doesn't have sensitivity issues.

[Anonymous No.4448098]

oh no how will I play my pokeymons

[Anonymous No.4448102]

>>4447597
But it does work.

[Anonymous No.4448138]

why did this kickstarter use the same factory as the french company with the same controller but with the switched d-pad and analog stick positions? how much money did they save?

[Anonymous No.4448353]

>>4448138
They talked about it and said that the french guys copied them. It's possible.

But how do you know they use the same factory?

[Anonymous No.4448359]

There needs to be a new rule that people using kickstarter can only receive payment if and only if they release a product exactly like how it was advertized as. If they fail to make it, everyone gets a full refund.

[Anonymous No.4448471]

>>4448359
You're describing pre-orders.
Kykestarter is the wrong place for that.

[Anonymous No.4448487]

shills btfo

[Anonymous No.4448501]

>I care about Transfer Pak support

said no one ever

[Anonymous No.4448618]

>>4448501
that's not the issue. The issue is Kickstarters have gotten away time and time again with promising certain features, people backing for those features, and then not delivering. Other crowd funding sites emulate the policies KS has since it's the most popular crowdfunding site. Tightening the policies would benefit the consumer.

[Anonymous No.4448697]

>>4448618

There's nothing wrong with kickstarters policies. There's a problem with dumbasses not doing their due diligence and backing shit that actually has a chance of making it out to market.

[Anonymous No.4448804]

>>4448618
>consumer
there are no consumers on kykestarters, only people giving away money.

[Anonymous No.4449253]

Now that I understand more about the Transfer Pak, I'm not upset. These guys probably legitimately assumed they'd have no issues. No one even really knows about the Transfer Paks they're so fucking underused and they never worked right. Why would these guys have any reason or fore-knowledge they wouldn't be able to make it work until they actually started doing it?

It's not really their fault, considering even Nintendo couldn't make the transfer paks work right.

[Anonymous No.4449257]

>>4449253
Transfer Paks can corrupt save data, fuck up your Pokemon names, and do a whole bunch of other horse shit. They're dangerous to use.

[Anonymous No.4449265]

Transfer Paks aren' the issue, it's the programming of the games and the shoddy pin connections. It's not something you should use even if you think the Pak works or is brand new. Just don't risk it with your game or pokemon.

[Anonymous No.4449268]

>>4449265
Pretty much this. These guys should legitimately not be trying to make Transfer Paks work, because when they "work" and corrupt kids save files, they're going to be blamed "REE UR CONTROLLER", because people are too stupid to fucking know Transfer Paks are garbage.

[Anonymous No.4449271]

A whole bunch of kiddos are going to go buy shoddy Transfer Paks and start using them with their new Retrofighters controller and then blame Retrofighters when the saves get corrupted.

[Anonymous No.4449434]

>>4449268
Interesting, we can always use the original N64 controller for that though.

[Anonymous No.4449679]

>>4449265
I guess it's not a Retro Fighters problem then... it's probably working, but they won't advertise because data corruption.

Nice, faith restored.

[Anonymous No.4449687]

>>4449253
>>4449265
>>4449271
Sure smells like shills in here.

[Anonymous No.4449953]

>>4449253
>These guys probably legitimately assumed they'd have no issues.
>assume
you guys are hilarious.

[Anonymous No.4449954]

>>4449268
>>4449265
>>4449679
see >>4446551

[Anonymous No.4450218]

How are you supposed to play games in the left position?

[Anonymous No.4450248]

If the controller itself works fine and you can still use memory paks, I couldn't give a shit. They shouldn't have said Transfer paks work on the controller though, that was fucking stupid of them.

[Anonymous No.4450615]

>>4449954
Yeah, but it was explained by people from this thread that the Transfer Pak has a lot of issues, I'm pretty sure it works with the controller, but it can corrupt data and stuff, like the original.

[Anonymous No.4450654]

>>4450218
Left position is for Goldeneye Solitaire controls