HoMM/Might and Magic thread

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HoMM/Might and Magic thread Anonymous Mon Nov 27 13:37:25 2017 No.4424502 [Reply] [Original]

Resistance to stone gaze edition.

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Previous thread: >>4356035

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 28 08:30:12 2017 No.4426018 What town are you playing right now? I'm going conflux in single player and necropolis with my friend. Really digging the upgraded l1 units conflux have.

Anonymous Tue Nov 28 11:21:51 2017 No.4426268
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>decide to play a normal game for the first time in years
>barely know how to predict AI decisions
>take Necro + Galthran, 100% difficulty
>get earth magic, spirit of oppression, town portal and angel wings within a month
I bet my balls I'd be stuck with eagle eye and leadership if I had chosen 200%.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 28 12:04:37 2017 No.4426327 Is barbarian town meant to be so stupid with resource costs for buildings? Never could tech up nearly as fast with them

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 28 12:55:04 2017 No.4426408 File: 135 KB, 800x600, gfs_16981_2_3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Heroes orchestra played castle theme with Paul Romero :] So good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPYr-m58Yeo

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 28 18:04:34 2017 No.4426967 >>4426327 Its fine just skip cyclops and go for behemots right away.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 29 02:49:33 2017 No.4427996 >>4426967 I thought it was the opposite.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 29 04:05:47 2017 No.4428061 >>4427996 Well i never play on lower difficulties, cyclops are way to expensive for what they provide.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 29 04:59:42 2017 No.4428114 Early army or early eco?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 29 06:43:12 2017 No.4428193 >>4428114 Unless you have necropolis and mobs around are weak, army. Either way, the first thing to do is always buy a few heroes for their creatures and faster exploration.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 29 12:16:04 2017 No.4428631 >>4424502 Thread completely ruined by OP

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 29 12:17:20 2017 No.4428634 >>4428631 What's wrong about it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 29 12:18:09 2017 No.4428635 >>4428634 It's almost as small as your penis.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 29 12:44:15 2017 No.4428684 Why is Inferno considered weak? They are dmeons

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 29 14:07:51 2017 No.4428843 The worst thing these threads ever did to me was convince me to buy Dominions 4 0 some fucker here said it's better than Heroes 3 [not even close] and on top of that I bought it when it was 50% off and a week later it was 75% off

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 29 18:50:19 2017 No.4429413 >>4428843 Well it is better than HoMM3 but its strictly an MP game. The SP component is like playing a multiplayer deathmatch game with bots.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 30 00:18:49 2017 No.4429982 >>4429413 Great well I have no friends.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 30 00:42:03 2017 No.4430026 in MM6 how do you switch party order? using grayface patch and ctrl does not work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 30 02:30:23 2017 No.4430206 >>4429982 >/domg/ - Dominions General >>>/vg/197154113 Usually there are several games going on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 30 12:23:50 2017 No.4430804 What went wrong in MM8 & MM9??

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 30 12:37:59 2017 No.4430817 >>4430804 EVERYTHING

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 30 13:44:27 2017 No.4430927 You know what i think?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 30 16:16:55 2017 No.4431224 I'm really struggling with creative issues whenever I come to factions that I don't like in map design.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 30 17:49:47 2017 No.4431447 >>4431224 That's real sad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 30 19:57:27 2017 No.4431768 >>4430927 Well?

Anonymous Thu Nov 30 22:28:28 2017 No.4432081

>>4430804
Both suffer from similar problems due to the release schedule being bumped up on them because of 3DO's incompetence.

Since MM8 was closer to done at the time and the devs were used to the engine (after all this was the 3rd game without a major update), it wasn't affected nearly as much although it caused certain things such as the druid class and unarmed skill to get thrown out. It was supposed to be more like an expansion to 7. With the schedule messed up the obvious problems of early dragons/level 50s weren't fixed. The original game (1.0) even banned Vampires from learning Body Magic at all, and this is why Vampire hirelings don't have body natively. By sticking with the elemental theme it allowed them to shortcut a lot of the major obstacles as the elemental planes are pretty simple and so much already exists from MM2, plus it helped build on the path the combined franchise took following the backlash against Forge. The game has plenty of flaws, but it still holds up ok and did enough to keep 3DO running for a while longer.

With MM9 they were barely in alpha when 3DO said release it or we file bankruptcy. There was some last week polishing, but this affects everything in the game from the writing, balance, sprite design, dungeons, promotions, and was probably the reason that series defining spells like Fly weren't included in the game. Doing this in a game with a new engine and a brand new storyline/lore from Enroth to Axeoth was way too much to finish, but they had no choice. As such it feels disjointed and clunky. One of the fan communities (TELP) even went back and did some bare minimum patching to at least make it playable, but the game overall just flat out wasn't anywhere near ready and doesn't deserve to be called Might and Magic.

Anonymous Thu Nov 30 22:50:11 2017 No.4432121

>>4424502
My qualms with HoMM3

>impossible difficulty
Doesn't feel like playing a smarter AI. It's a game with zero resources that takes an autismal understanding of the battles scattered on the map. The AI cheats, so you have to exploit them as well. Beating this strikes me as more broken than fun.

>running away and backpacking
using game mechanics like magic users to shoot and run or having to have heros just to transport monsters and inventory around the map.

>variation between castles
Most are about the same.

I love tile strategies including HoMM, but sometimes the shortcomings really stand out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 00:10:58 2017 No.4432292 >>4432121 Okay.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 01:57:20 2017 No.4432468 >>4432121 your second point is something that i love and hate depending on my mood. using your heroes to convoy monsters just sits weird in my mind but i would be lying if i don't find it fun as hell to do on small maps. im not good enough to play on

Anonymous Fri Dec 1 01:59:47 2017 No.4432472

>>4432468
whoops didn't mean to post early. I'm not good enough to play on harder difficulty and i know jack shit about the meta around homm 3 but using magic and running seems like a valid strategy since they would only do it if an ass pounding was imminent.

Anonymous Fri Dec 1 05:14:19 2017 No.4432696
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>>4432121
Have you tried HoMM5 yet? Because some of your issues are addressed there even if it has its own problems and some newcomers like that one better, though to be fare you really need multiple heroes to explore, pick up spare resources and transport armies at the very very least even there. If you don't want to play more efficiently like that you'll never git gud in any heroes.

>have heros just to transport monsters and inventory around the map.
H5 introduces caravans that can transport your army from 1 castle to another in a number of days. They literally are put on a caravan and start moving towards a city automatically once you issue a order.
But they can be intercepted any time if an enemy hero for example discovers them. They also are unable to cross water or obstacles and get delayed at the exact spot of an obstacle which can be devastating if an enemy hero finds them.
>variation between castles
Also addressed though the ultimates aren't always worth it. The factions have their strengths and weaknesses and play differently.

Necropolis for exampe contrary to HoMM3 is incredibly different(or any other homm game for that matter) and needs a lot of considering which creature you want to raise since you can raise everything. They have amazing rushing and can break through a strong stack incredibly early that separates you from your enemies territory. People might tell you raising creatures like say wights aren't worth it and thats necromancy is weak but if you manage to find an unupgraded pit lord and manage to down them(they're easy) with a few skellies very early despite the looses that wight will be incredibly worth it and can suck up TONS of damage in the early game when you want to push through and surprise your opponent.
While factions like Fortress on the contrary have shitty creeping but unbeatable late game. So with them you want to prolong the game as much as possible etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 11:50:26 2017 No.4433214 >>4432696 Play Hommam 6!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 13:06:20 2017 No.4433345 Post the best Heroes map you've ever made!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 13:20:50 2017 No.4433382 >>4433345 Here's mine:

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 13:28:50 2017 No.4433401 Cutest spunk trunk for every faction? >Castle Adelaide >Rampant Jenova >Tower Neela >Inferno Octavia? >Necropolis Tamika >Dungeon Lorelei? >Stronghold Shiva >Fortress Tazar >Conflux Ciele

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 13:33:47 2017 No.4433418 File: 23 KB, 400x387, bbf8dec6e570.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4433401 >Tazar

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 15:03:24 2017 No.4433592 Play homm6!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 15:08:55 2017 No.4433609 >>4433214 >>4433592 Ubisoft shills still out in force eh

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 15:46:26 2017 No.4433682 >>4433345 I never made anything with my life

Anonymous Fri Dec 1 16:07:01 2017 No.4433725
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>>4433682
>depression
Friendly reminder that cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) is a successful treatment for
depression. One book on the topic is 'Feeling Good' by MD David Burns.

Link:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/vedhl0

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 16:10:55 2017 No.4433734 >tfw there's a play Homm6 shill and a buy my suicide book shill in these threads now What's next? Magyar apologism? oh wait, that's play Homm6 already

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 20:43:27 2017 No.4434305 >>4432696 >H5 introduces caravans HoMM4 did that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 20:52:20 2017 No.4434320 >>4433401 >Octavia It's obviously Nymus. Octavia is bald, that yellow thing is a scarf.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 21:17:13 2017 No.4434367 >>4433725 https://imgur.com/gallery/1rYL5

Anonymous Fri Dec 1 21:51:11 2017 No.4434458
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>>4434367
Did I finish his quest? Guides mention a reward for completing it but unless it was experience I'm not seeing it. I did find the crystal skull which I imagine is a quest item for another quest further down the line. Came here looking for the fountain of magic due to a rumor but when they said head south I imagine they meant further south towards castle ironfist or New Scorpigal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 1 22:59:16 2017 No.4434569 >>4433734 >buy I provide a link to a copy.

Anonymous Fri Dec 1 23:50:52 2017 No.4434637

Does anyone remember how you unlocked town portal locations in MM6?

I'm a master in water, but only a handful are popping up on the map. I've been running around ironfist, drinking from all the fountains, because that's what I remember it being, but it's not popping up for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 00:05:34 2017 No.4434664 >>4434458 Yes the only quest is using the amber on the 2 warded doors and then returning. You should consider picking up the crystal skull which you will use in a late game dungeon. >>4434637 Castle Ironfist isn't a city. Use Lloyd's Beacon.

Anonymous Sat Dec 2 00:10:35 2017 No.4434671

>>4434458
The fountain of magic is outside. It's on the mainland a little northeast of the main Bootleg Bay city. You need to get everyone to max mana and then have all characters drink once after being full. Unlike other fountains that have total charges (which you should have run into in New Sorpigal) this one never runs out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 01:28:58 2017 No.4434778 >>4434305 This. Heroes 4 would've been a far better game than Heroes 5 if it still had Heroes 3-like hero specializations and if you could permanently lock your class once you get it and if you had more units to choose from

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 01:32:23 2017 No.4434783 >>4434458 >Did I finish his quest? Is that rick and morty's quest?

Anonymous Sat Dec 2 01:40:41 2017 No.4434789

>>4434664
Thanks, quest was shallow and abrupt but at least the dungeon was fun.
>>4434671
Ok this is bull shit. One quest giver tells you the shadow thieves hangout is south of New Scorpigal only to find out it's NW of castle Iron Fist. Now a NPC tells me the fountain of magic is south of Boot Leg Bay only to find out it's in the mainland out of a fountain I have already drank out of in the opposite direction. I also looked up the location of the Dark Hourglass because the fort south of Mist was non existent only to find out it's located north of New Scorpigal. Now according to the map from GOG it's still technically south of Mist but why would I even believe him since every one is literally full of shit?
Anyways thanks for the tip I just felt like bitching.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 05:49:04 2017 No.4435059 >>4433401 >>Dungeon >Lorelei? Sephinroth

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 05:53:32 2017 No.4435065 >>4435059 Cringey weaboo taste

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 05:57:35 2017 No.4435074 File: 35 KB, 605x507, One-Crispy-Winged Angel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4435065 Come at me bro

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 07:56:14 2017 No.4435181 If you donnot played multiplayer, you are woman, not real man, bliyat

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 09:12:53 2017 No.4435278 No offense but why can't we have separate generals? I don't like hanging around with heroes shitters when m&m games are clearly superior.

Anonymous Sat Dec 2 09:13:55 2017 No.4435280
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Why were undead so overpowered?
>can access the level 6 unit (which has 50hp fewer than a green dragon but costs half the price in gold and doesn't require precious resources) on week 1 since you only need the mage guild and tier 2 and 5 dwellings (a diversified resource cost of their dwelling helps a lot as well)
>have a unique level 3 spell which works as permanent resurrection (which is level 5 and costs 18 of every precious resource more)
>vampire lords are reasonably fast (instantly block enemy shooter due to the flying ability) and after a certain point are self-sustainable and virtually unkillable
>all troops are immune to blind and paralysis
>necromancy (free troops + skeletons are excellent fighters)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 09:54:50 2017 No.4435337 >>4435280 B-but muh black dragons!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 14:05:12 2017 No.4435708 >>4435278 M&M probably doesn't have enough of a fanbase to maintain a general. You are more than welcome to start a separate thread, but stop asking as it's pretty obvious trolling at this point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 15:36:44 2017 No.4435872 >>4435280 It's mainly due to the tech tree. Skeleton abuse is nice, but being able to get a flying 150 hp T6 so easily really helps the early game, and the unit itself isn't all that expensive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 17:37:16 2017 No.4436125 What game has the [relatively] strongest vampires?

Anonymous Sat Dec 2 18:41:58 2017 No.4436252

>>4436125
Heroes 4 by a long shot. They have a ton of hp and if you can get a decent set of them rolling they are hard to deal with. Plus because it's H4 with the XOR gimmick other factions can't really push out the number of units you can in the other games. You lose out on the slimes but it's worthwhile.

Anonymous Sat Dec 2 18:46:28 2017 No.4436261

>>4436125
H4. Vampires are imbalanced in every installment but at least they got reasonably moderate stats, while in Heroes 4 they've got insanely high attack and defense for some reason.
>>4435872
On the other hand Knight's build-up is horrendous. Since you cannot ditch your archers, you have either to suffer from low movement points or juggle around them between your main and sec hero.

And you have to endure this since upgraded archers are available only after you have constructed tavern (useless in the beginning), well (crucial in week 1 but you want it at the end of the week), and tier 3 and 4 dwellings.

Or you can be a necro and own everyone's asses with 4 bone dragons on day 8. Great balance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 19:04:11 2017 No.4436304 >>4436125 H5 Vampire Prince is ultra bullshit and nearly obviates the Vampire Lord. I don't know what the deal is with tote and its alternatives that are strictly superior to upgrades that were already brokenly strong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 20:05:28 2017 No.4436393 >>4436304 How high is the chasnce?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 20:08:57 2017 No.4436401 File: 356 KB, 1056x1504, 1470957875927.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >monthly succ wars check WHEN?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 20:15:47 2017 No.4436408 File: 45 KB, 301x390, Succ Wars.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4436401

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 2 21:05:11 2017 No.4436487 File: 246 KB, 2498x890, anudda.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oy vey

Anonymous Sun Dec 3 01:10:05 2017 No.4436826

>>4436304
Eh not all of them. Even with your example that guy looses no retaliation bonus of the vampire lord so it really depends on the stage of the game and if you want your vampire lords to tank everything in which case vampire lord might be a better choice for replenishing numbers with vampirism/arcane armor+no retaliation though the Vampire Prince I agree is really good too even very low stacks can trigger that debuff constantly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 3 05:17:18 2017 No.4437064 What is the best Heroes 4 campaign? Preferably from the expansions; I'm sick of the original campaigns all being your faction vs someone else in your faction who betrays you during the campaign.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 3 07:33:04 2017 No.4437172 The game DLs in the OP are clean, right?

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>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 3 09:02:00 2017 No.4437294 >>4437064 There's like one person in total who played those campaigns

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 3 09:04:17 2017 No.4437303 >>4437251 Thanks man, Finally someone unveiled the mystery of the building trees

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 3 09:31:52 2017 No.4437351 >>4437303 You're welcome.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 3 11:51:57 2017 No.4437657 >>4437064 Guess they're all as horrible as they look (Spazz Matticus - seriously?).

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 3 12:03:02 2017 No.4437673 >>4437172 Yes they are fine

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 3 13:49:48 2017 No.4437917 File: 26 KB, 333x500, Skeleton Warrior.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >That HoMM2 Scenario where you massacre peasants by the thousands to raise an undead horde

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 3 14:27:57 2017 No.4438023 I tried mouse look in MM7 but there's always a cursor near the centre of the screen. Is there a way to disable or fix it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 3 15:46:47 2017 No.4438148 >>4437917 There's a mission in Archibald's campaign with the same premise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 3 20:36:53 2017 No.4438875 >>4438148 Yeah that's the one I was talking about. Guess I should of said mission instead of scenario.

>>	The Museum !tDoBFV9tf6 Sun Dec 3 20:37:59 2017 No.4438879 These threads enabled me to complete my first campaign, ever! Thx!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 00:04:47 2017 No.4439328 >>4438879 >tripfag Ewwwww :-X

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 00:15:12 2017 No.4439343 >>4437064 Gauldoth is so deep & emotional

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 00:26:44 2017 No.4439361 >>4437064 All of the expansion ones are relatively weak simply because they didn't have the time to write them. Of the ones there are, Dogwoggle was ok but nothing special, and Bahb was fun just from his skills.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:30:50 2017 No.4439553 >>4439361 >Dogwoggle The fuck kinda name is that

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:28:11 2017 No.4439837

>>4439553
>That's the joke.jpg
Someone in the party/camp mocks the mighty barbarian any time his name gets spoken and being a proud warrior his patience deteriorates. It's not great, but it was probably the strongest of the H4 expansion campaigns in terms of writing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 11:26:30 2017 No.4440064 >>4439837 What about the last one? Surely Baron von Tarkin would deliver!?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 11:29:39 2017 No.4440069 >>4437064 All the heroes IV campaigns are unbearably boring shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 11:54:10 2017 No.4440117 >>4440069 /thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 14:07:42 2017 No.4440268 What is your ideal Heroes of Might and Magic game?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 14:11:53 2017 No.4440272 >>4440268 Homm2 if it had 3's random map generator

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 15:15:38 2017 No.4440375 >>4440268 Homm1 if it had 2's random map generator

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 15:28:52 2017 No.4440403 >>4440268 Heroes 1 with an AI which doesn't suicide on level 6 monsters on week 1 and the well which increases critter growth by 50% instead of 2.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 16:30:19 2017 No.4440504 >>4440268 Play Homm6!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 00:11:36 2017 No.4441548 >>4440504 /thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 00:27:26 2017 No.4441570 >>4440268 HoMM2, forever and always.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 00:46:05 2017 No.4441608

>>4440268
Heroes 3 as base game (same/similar factions & setting with similar units in the factions). No more of that Ubisoft shitty inconsistent universe.

More Heroes 2 like tech-trees here every faction has different upgrades distribution (ie. no upgrades for skellingtons).

Heroes 4 like independent unit movement but make it a lot more restrictive (so that no-hero stacks can't do everything on the map that heroes can). You can move units between towns with caravans (uncontrollable but fastest movement but it costs extra money depending on the amount/level of units transported).

Heroes participate in combat but get automatically resurrected if they win the combat. If you retreat/surrender they stay dead in your party. If you lose, your enemy gets to do whatever they please with your body (eradicate permanently or put in prison after resurrection).

All units get XP. If you have the appropriate upgrade building, they can be upgraded to the next level of their unit on the fly. Kinda like Disciples on a smaller scale. Units still level up if at max upgrade level for a small boost in stats. For some units you have multiple upgrade paths possible (exclusive). I.e. one upgrade route offers 3 upgrades total, the other offers 2.

All heroes have their own unique specialty (Heroes 3 style). On top of that, all classes also have their own unique class skill. Unit specialties reworked to always offer something special crafted specifically for the unit. Spell specialists can cast the spell cheaper and with increased effect - faster/more damage/additional buff etc. Morale reworked to affect a special "advantage" bar Sengoku Rance style. It's a separate thing from positive/negative morale bonuses so it affects undead too. At the beginning of combat, the game calculates how many turns it would take for one side to destroy the other. Based on that, you have a limit on how many turns you can take. So you can no longer just run around infinitely away from your enemy w a fast mstr

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 00:58:47 2017 No.4441634

>>4441608
Also, luck not only affects your damage but % chances for bash/fear/aging/poison/sleep/blind (whatever your units can cause on hit)

Learning gives extra attack/def/knowledge/spellpower stats on level up (kinda like Heroes 5).

Eagle Eye and Scholar are combined. Eagle Eye gives a 100% chance to copy a spell you can learn with wisdom. Scholar allows you to teach lvl 3->all spells to other heroes->mage guilds.

Mysticism gives a % based bonus at Expert Level and is combined with Enlightenment.

Expert First Aid can resurrect the dead. Restores FA tents automatically after combat (same with Ballistics /Artillery).

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 05:23:40 2017 No.4441889 >>4441608 >>4441634 Pity reply

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 08:52:20 2017 No.4442085 >>4441570 only correct answer

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:04:07 2017 No.4442096 >>4440268 Homm3 is already ideal I wouldn't mind a new 2D Homm with all the improvements made over the years

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:33:25 2017 No.4442123

>>4441634

imo shitty skills like eagle eye, resistance, mysticism, sorcery, artillery and scholar should be faction exclusive bonuses rather than skills of their own.

For example all Wizards have expert scholar without taking a skill slot.

Alchemists generate you a random precious resource each day

Witches have expert Mysticism automatically

Beastmasters get artillery

Warlocks, Overlords, Heretics and Demoniacs have expert sorcery

Barbarians have magic resistance

Battlemages have eagle eye

Knights get estates

Clerics and Druids get diplomacy, because they're a shitty class to begin with.

Rangers get scouting

Necromancers and Death Knights already have necromacy.

To balance out you get two less skill slots.

This way the classes feel more distinct.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:33:01 2017 No.4442183 >>4442096 Thats what succ wars will be. And we are all waiting for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:04:19 2017 No.4442321 >>4442123 >Negromancy >shitty skill

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:37:23 2017 No.4442503 My ideal Heroes game would be like this:

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:05:47 2017 No.4442815 >>4440268 Heroes 3 with caravans and moddable skills

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 20:37:42 2017 No.4443496 >>4442815 Original game's skills are already moddable in VCMI and soon it'll be possible to add new ones.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 20:54:56 2017 No.4443561 Interesting perspective. What about Conflux heroes then?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:33:25 2017 No.4443825 >>4443561 What about them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:15:06 2017 No.4443873 I am Crag hack

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:30:08 2017 No.4443887 I am Solmyr

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:32:31 2017 No.4443891 How are draggens formed !?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:35:11 2017 No.4443893 >>4443561 no one cares about conflux heroes

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:52:10 2017 No.4443912

>>4442096
>Homm3 is already ideal
I don't know about that. There's a lot to improve - this is why things like HotA exist in the first place.
For example, skills are kind of boring and unbalanced, magic schools aren't well-designed at all, MP creature bank meta is stale as fuck, it could use H4-style scripting, there's a huge issue with games being resolved midgame with lategame devolving into basically mopup janitor work, and so on.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 01:19:47 2017 No.4443941

>>4443912

Hota doesn't really solve the things you mentioned but builds and brings more complexity.

I both agree and disagree about magic schools, the spell placement makes sense in the context of individual factions armies that each school is associated with.

Late game mop up does get grating on L and XL maps, but you also have DD, town portal and Fly to deal with that.

Homm3 is surprisingly well rounded

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 01:34:28 2017 No.4443949

>>4443941
>but you also have DD, town portal and Fly to deal with that.
Which have insane game-breaking potential too so ideally you'd need to implement inherent map zoning that wouldn't let you jump to areas you haven't opened up on the ground yet. If you wanna see what unhindered town portal does to logistics - just play Heroes VI

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 01:51:05 2017 No.4443964 File: 182 KB, 800x600, bXGOAiO7vTQ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's your opinion on this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 02:58:10 2017 No.4444036 >>4430026 Character swap in MM6 was broken on release and never got fixed in future so GreyFace just turned it off. If you want it back search for the unpatched version. Here is why it is broken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjc562_n1kY

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 02:59:13 2017 No.4444037 >>4444036 *GrayFace

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 03:41:24 2017 No.4444070

>>4443964
Great music track and visual design of the city
A bit too strong in certain aspects
Unit selection is a bit too esoteric for the series and unit looks could use a bit polish (What's the difference between their water sprites and water elementals? Why are there two types of sea men? What's the difference between Nix and lizardmen? What the fuck is an ayssid? Aren't sorcerreses a hero class?).

Good try overall.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 12:09:24 2017 No.4444570 >>4443949 yeah, Homm6 went out of its way to streamline the shit out of gameplay, converting towns made you OP as hell

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 12:13:57 2017 No.4444583 >>4443912 >H4-style scripting What does that allow you to do?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 12:19:23 2017 No.4444597 >>4444583 If you know how to program in Java, you can do anything in Heroes 4! Even your own factions!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 13:50:35 2017 No.4444754 File: 170 KB, 640x480, ComfyFireplace.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4444036 Shame he didn't make it an option in the ini file so I could quickly fix my party order and then then disable it again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 15:19:45 2017 No.4444919 >>4444597 Java./..so powerful?!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 15:31:01 2017 No.4444945 How do I have FUN playing Heroes of Might and Magic IV?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 18:07:00 2017 No.4445295 >>4444945 listening to the soundtrack is the only way to have fun with Homm4, no one really plays it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 21:03:00 2017 No.4445552 >>4444945 i found it one of the most challenging heroes game in the series, therefore is very fun to play

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 22:22:09 2017 No.4445712 File: 133 KB, 800x374, fortressgnollstar2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hi /vr/. I didda thing. I need strong discouragement to never attempt something like this again. Take care. https://youtu.be/LdPq1ptHLHw

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 00:10:29 2017 No.4445914 >>4445552 Um...hello? What about Heroes 6?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 00:20:26 2017 No.4445935 >>4445712 >This video is not playable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 00:50:06 2017 No.4445968 >>4444945 Campaigns on a high difficulty level.

Anonymous Thu Dec 7 01:50:31 2017 No.4446065

>>4444583
>What does that allow you to do?
It lets you do more powerful, flexible quest scripting not necessarily tied to quest huts and possibly have non-standard, even multiple win conditions, but unlike what devs did with Heroes 7, it doesn't let you alter fundamental rules of the game, which I think is important.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 02:24:32 2017 No.4446105 >biyearly reminder that this was once the comfiest general on the site

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 05:36:42 2017 No.4446289 Can you play the original Shadow of Death expansion using the HotA lobby (eg. without the HotA additions)?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 07:19:24 2017 No.4446349 >>4446289 Nope

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 07:47:52 2017 No.4446364 >>4445968 Only first 1-2 missions are hard at top level difficulties, still doesn't fix many other problems.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 08:52:38 2017 No.4446428 >>4445914 Six is VI in roman numeral

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 14:31:50 2017 No.4446963 >>4445712 So in Polish, Fortress is called Citadel. Thats' really dumb?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 14:37:31 2017 No.4446975 >>4446963 Blind idiot translation, probably.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 14:54:26 2017 No.4447007 Been enjoying H5 the most recently. It's the closest to Heroes 3. I like H3 but dude, I can't see or play it anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 15:03:30 2017 No.4447019 >>4428684 too much selfharm on top of shitty stats. The holy grail option for them is crap too because it's just more imps or so I've heard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 15:18:31 2017 No.4447050 What is the most fun scenario to play in Heroes III/IV/V?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 15:53:55 2017 No.4447134 >>4446963 >>4446975 >>4446975 In Polish version, Tower is Forteca, Fortress is Cytadela, and Citadel is Twierdza (a Slavic word, akin to Russian "tverdynia").

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 16:25:03 2017 No.4447183 >>4447050 2) The Back Door 3) Back for Revenge 4) Draconic (I made this) 5) I dunno, I have Tribes of the East so only the one where you play as an Elf is good 6) Play Heroes 6!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 18:20:24 2017 No.4447358 File: 305 KB, 1507x1123, ubi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Play Heroes 6!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 19:44:16 2017 No.4447484 >>4447134 Stronghold is twierdza and this is generally the accepted translation of the word.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 11:35:12 2017 No.4448659 I played Heroes 3 again yesterday for an hour, then got bored I overplayed the shit out of this game

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 11:45:39 2017 No.4448670 >>4448659 What mode did you play?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 11:57:01 2017 No.4448685 >>4448659 I know that feel Still better than candy crush for boreplayinh

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 12:03:28 2017 No.4448693 >>4447050 I only remember Adventures of Jared Leto from 3 and nothing from 4 and 5.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 14:16:18 2017 No.4448845 Why do the Magyar shill Heroes 6 so bigly?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 15:03:29 2017 No.4448909 >>4448845 Because it's the "best" game their wannabe-mongoloid country ever produced.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 16:43:18 2017 No.4449070 Wait a second, you no longer get atk and def bonuses from your hero in Heroes 4?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 18:03:33 2017 No.4449195 >>4449070 Attack and defense only applies to the hero's personal attack. The partywide effects are under the tactics skill.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 18:34:15 2017 No.4449238 >>4447050 I remember Beowulf tales in heroes IV as fun

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 18:36:11 2017 No.4449240 >>4449070 No, the hero is a creature.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 18:37:12 2017 No.4449241 >>4449240 YOur mom is a creature

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 18:40:07 2017 No.4449246 Should I play the Heroes IV campaigns with or without equilibris?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 18:53:37 2017 No.4449274 Should I play Heroes IV campaigns?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 20:15:35 2017 No.4449371 >>4449274 Yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 06:19:33 2017 No.4450109 >>4449274 Base H IV campaigns are actually reasonably well-written and quite interesting. WoW have very little writing but still are quite fun, GS are really trash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 06:21:39 2017 No.4450112 >>4449070 Nope, you need tactics skill subskills for that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 06:42:05 2017 No.4450132 >>4449246 I tried out this degenerate Russian nigger mod right now. I ran the game once and ever since then it says C++ runtime error abnormal program termination.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 06:48:34 2017 No.4450137 >>4450132 >fails to install a mod >this must be the degenerate russian niggers' doing

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 06:52:27 2017 No.4450141 >>4450137 Die Rus bliyat cyka pidaras

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 06:58:56 2017 No.4450147 >>4450141 I am not russian.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 07:00:36 2017 No.4450150 >>4450147 Prove it; say something nice about Hillary Clinton.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 07:04:02 2017 No.4450153 File: 33 KB, 899x547, 1489619832630.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4450150 C++ doesn't have a runtime. Could you post a screenshot of this alleged "error"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 07:05:02 2017 No.4450154 >>4450153 CONFIRMED RUSSIAN

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 07:08:12 2017 No.4450160 File: 404 KB, 693x520, IMG_20171209_130634.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4450154 Чтo?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 07:09:39 2017 No.4450161 >>4450160 >pretending to be a Swedish numale soyboy cuckold to convince us you're not a Russian soyboy numale cuckold.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 07:12:43 2017 No.4450167 >>4450161 I have provided evidence. Could you post a screenshot of the so-called "C++ runtime error"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 08:09:46 2017 No.4450229 >>4450153 What do you mean "C++ doesn't have a runtime"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 08:13:57 2017 No.4450230 Yet another thread ruined by the Russians. Shaking my heads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 08:20:26 2017 No.4450235 File: 3 KB, 86x111, chaoshydra.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4450230 >Shaking my heads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 08:57:47 2017 No.4450268 >>4450229 C++ is a compiled language. There is no such thing as a "C++ runtime", unlike .NET.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 09:08:25 2017 No.4450282 File: 41 KB, 158x146, arabski_szejker.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4450235 >>4450230

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 09:12:55 2017 No.4450287 Anyone know what to get the HoMM3 lover in the family?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 09:30:15 2017 No.4450303 >>4450287 Give him the dick

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 11:00:38 2017 No.4450387 >>4450282 >arabic sheikh

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 11:03:02 2017 No.4450391 >>4450287 A download link to Horn of the Abyss.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 11:53:28 2017 No.4450458 File: 402 KB, 1424x842, skeletons.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4450287 Coffee mug with this

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 13:00:59 2017 No.4450552 This week in a nutshell: >pick up Heroes 4 thinking it might be fun this time >it's not fun as usual >drop it >[day passes] >pick it up again...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 13:25:34 2017 No.4450576 >>4450552 You need to find alternative hobby m8 >>4450287 Order a stripper in pixie costume for him. If its a girl, crag hack will be fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 13:27:02 2017 No.4450580 >>4450576 >girls >liking Heroes games naive kiddo

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 13:38:56 2017 No.4450596 >>4450580 Spotted the non-slav, here (Poland) if a girl likes a game, it's usually the Heroes (3).

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 13:42:33 2017 No.4450603 >>4450596 Oh yeah and obviously The Sims, but imo these are different kinds of girls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 14:34:17 2017 No.4450715 >>4450282 Is the hydra a metal head?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 16:12:33 2017 No.4450917 File: 9 KB, 200x200, Second.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4450458

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 17:44:29 2017 No.4451103

I finally realized what's so bad about Might and Magic VIII.

It's basically all because it's a downgrade compared to the previous games. Sure, you can play as a dragon, a vampire, a Jew, a black man or a troll. But at what cost? All other classes get fucked. There's no longer Master->Grand Master skill progression. Classes are even less balanced than before. No actual improvements for anything (the fact that all skill teachers know all other level teachers for their skill is just dumbing down things).

And the world is very meh too, there's no Heroes game tied to it, it feels like almost a bigger retcon than Heroes V.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:16:40 2017 No.4451169

How the fuck do I complete the third stage of Gauldoth Half-Dead? The one with the towers. Since almost all the neutral creatures are undead, you have to build dwellings. You need a large army, so you need to build Dragon Graveyard in all the cities you capture.
This takes huge amount of resources, which you don't have.

Also, getting your bone dragons from the cities to the southeast is painfully slow. Since you want to send them with as short delays as possible, the neutral stacks end up killing some of them.

It really feels like I'm missing something. Is the optimal strategy really to rush gold production and Dragon Graveyard x3 in cities without forts?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:38:36 2017 No.4451219 >>4451169 Idunno lol, implosion

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:41:44 2017 No.4451226 >>4451219 >implosion I don't have chaos magic, he starts out with nature magic and learning chaos magic would make him an Archmage or waste a skill slot.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:43:59 2017 No.4451231

>>4451169
Yes or rush Devils. I forget what the resources are like on that map. Almost all the campaigns are get enough gold to push top tier units and steamroll, which is largely the same as the campaigns from 1-3 as well. Your whole goal that campaign is to get summoning demons as high as possible. Once you get GM demonology and GM Nature you can summon devils.

>>4451103
Vampires are garbage, trolls are weak at best, and Clerics are still essential. Class balance is poor, but that was the case in MM7 as well (especially dark path). There is still GM progression as it takes promotion, the bigger problem for progression is how certain class promotions are a complete joke (Dark Elf and Cleric). The reason you get the trainer information is that unlike MM6 and MM7 there is only one expert trainer per skill. What really breaks the game are early dragons and the easy access to level 50 characters when your own are around 10. The dungeons are largely uninspiring and a lot of the fights just feel tedious after a while.

>And the world is very meh too, there's no Heroes game tied to it
This is why we say for people that just want Heroes background to play 6 and 7. It's the same world, just a different continent. Creating it and then doing nothing with it was really frustrating, especially since they went with the Reckoning so soon afterward. You save the world just to watch it go boom a year or so later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:05:14 2017 No.4451271 >>4451231 How do I level up nature magic? I never get prompted for it. I got basic summoning from the Seminar in the life city in part 2, but all that does is give me unaligned creatures I have to discard or send on suicide missions.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:09:08 2017 No.4451285

>>4451271
Don't take basic summoning at all if you can avoid it. Even at GM it just summons elementals which just slow your army down. Make sure you don't go up in any other skills than Death and Nature magic. You should have been summoning imps from the first scenario, move to cerberi, ice demons, venom spawn, and then devils as you get your skills up. Especially once you get to Ice Demons you really don't need any type of unit in your army below T3 as they will just slow you down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:11:20 2017 No.4451294 >>4451285 Alternatively you can always just go up in Necromancy and sit behind 500 vampires.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:14:56 2017 No.4451307 >>4451285 I dismiss them at the start of each turn, they lower the morale too much. I've already leveled up combat since I never got nature magic offers. >>4451294 That's what I did, but it doesn't work if all the enemies are undead.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:20:30 2017 No.4451325

>>4451307
If you lost the demonology specialty because you went so deeply into combat you may have fucked yourself. That would also explain why you aren't getting Nature Magic skills. At this point you probably need to abuse Potions of Immortality. Every single point you put into a combat skill that didn't come from a tent/seminary is a skill level that should have been in Nature. I could see going into combat just to pickup basic archery, but that would be it. Gauldoth isn't supposed to be your damage dealer, your demons are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:21:49 2017 No.4451328 >install that shitty equilibrus mod >choose "NONE" in the top menu for summoning (right above necromancy) >IT STILL KEEPS SUMMONING

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:24:17 2017 No.4451332 >>4451325 Even with summoning, he needs some degree of combat. It should still be possible to get nature magic. How many levels would you need for each summoning level?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:25:50 2017 No.4451337 >>4451328 >not just setting it to sprites and using them as scouts/sending them on suicide missions

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:34:58 2017 No.4451357

>>4451332
You really don't because the basic skills should be picked up in seminaries. It takes a lot to go up in two magic skills. It's demonology and nature magic level for each tier of demons.

That should be something like:
Level 1(Imps): 3-4 levels
Level 2(Cerberi): 6-8 levels
Level 3(Ice Demons): 12-14 levels
Level 4(Venom Spawns): 20-24 levels
Level 5(Devils): 28-30 levels

Those level requirements can be reduced with seminaries/witch huts but those really only apply to the lower end.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:36:44 2017 No.4451364

>>4451357
>Those level requirements can be reduced with seminaries/witch huts but those really only apply to the lower end.
And the altars of nature/death magic and libraries. You could get to it by level 25 most of the time, but it still requires either a ton of luck or skipping necromancy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:27:48 2017 No.4451457 Does anybody know what's on the second floor door of Ravenshore's tavern in Might and Magic VIII? Its locked

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:31:06 2017 No.4451462 >>4451457 I would expect that to be where your room is if you stay in the tavern. I don't think there is a key in the game that opens it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 05:32:45 2017 No.4452170 Does the Equilibris mode even work? It seems that it does nothing at all as advertised.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 06:56:14 2017 No.4452246 >>4452170 >trusting a Rus' to not fuckup your game?

>>	Ekrem Sun Dec 10 07:06:31 2017 No.4452254 takes the fucking ustura and kill the Rus

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 07:09:38 2017 No.4452259 Why should we play heroes 6 instead of 7?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 08:52:17 2017 No.4452345 >>4452259 >why should I get food poisoning instead of AIDS? I mean, ideally you'd get neither. But if you have to choose.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 09:31:06 2017 No.4452371 Would you fug a Venom Spawn?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 11:13:44 2017 No.4452452 File: 94 KB, 700x348, naturetown.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In your opinion, which Heroes have the best narrative in the series? For me, Heroes IV have the best histories and way to tell them, for example the Nature Campaign.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 11:49:26 2017 No.4452482 >>4452452 The Dragon Slayer campaign

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 12:01:22 2017 No.4452492 File: 121 KB, 800x750, homm_3___sandro_by_kiriosanjouin-d3cnhtq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4452371 I want Sandro to bone me

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 12:16:52 2017 No.4452509 >>4452492 You're a disgusting fuck. >>4452371 You're alright in my book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 12:20:09 2017 No.4452513 File: 129 KB, 400x304, 1352221192640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4452509 Sandro is love, Sandro is life

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 12:39:34 2017 No.4452545 If you ask me, Nimbus is way more interesting than this Sandro guy. Let's make some interesting memes about Nimbus and appreciate Nimbus.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 13:22:59 2017 No.4452616 File: 18 KB, 640x328, ded egels.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4452545

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 13:51:56 2017 No.4452671 >>4452452 >In your opinion, which Heroes have the best narrative in the series? Unironically 6 Vanilla story about the siblings was top kino. It's just a shame it was attached to a shitty fucking game.

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 14:10:15 2017 No.4452702

>>4452671
They kinda copied clash of heroes with the siblings thing though I did enjoy the Inferno campaign at least. Turning into a boss pitlord was nice. Sanctuary wasn't bad too shame they couldn't manage to add it during H5.
>>4452259
Tbqh 6's focus on just purely combat is superior to 7 if only it wasn't for the healing bullcrap of Haven and Necro. That said 7 is just a better game overall and has much more going for it plus it at least feels like a traditional HoMM game while 6 is just something different.

Haven units btw out of all the heroes games looked the best in 6 imo. They were just gorgeous.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 14:10:54 2017 No.4452704 >>4437064 I've liked Gauldoth. I know that's a controversial opinion, but I think that original HoMM4 had pretty strong campaigns in general.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 14:13:05 2017 No.4452709 >>4440268 M&M7 and HoMM3 with a shared tavern.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 15:21:25 2017 No.4452834 >>4444070 It's supposed to be inspired by the M&M 8 location. The same guys also guest stared at Christian' campaign in AB (although as Castles)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 15:49:23 2017 No.4452880 >>4452702 >7 is just a better game overall That's not saying much since 7 is still irredeemable garbage that has literally nothing you'd want to play it for over 3 or even 5. I could write essays about why 7 is bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 16:11:45 2017 No.4452926 ITT: Design a M&M [or HoM&M] game that would actually sell but also be appreciated by the posters ITT.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 16:16:48 2017 No.4452934 >>4452926 M&M6 with HD graphics like Mass Effect Andromeda and full fledged nudity & sex scenes (via patch)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 17:13:47 2017 No.4453020 >>4452926 Ubisoft produced nothing but good games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 23:21:41 2017 No.4453816 >>4452452 I would go with Archibald in HOMM2. It covers the enslaving of the dragons and the pure power of necromancy and of course features Archibald as narrator. If you don't mind walls of text the Order campaign from HoMM4 has a lot of good stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 23:55:18 2017 No.4453871 >>4452880 Dude that is such a 4chan reply I was comparing 6 and 7 in the first place you know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 00:06:10 2017 No.4453901 >>4453871 >I could write essays about why 7 is bad. But since you mentioned that I do want to hear it what do you think is the biggest flaw except it being an unfinished trash and ubi bugs?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 05:28:48 2017 No.4454217 Archibald looks like the type of guy who would knowingly infect people with his HIV. A real POZ spreader.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 05:37:05 2017 No.4454225
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>>4453901
Picking just one biggest flaw is pretty hard because so many things in it are wrong but if I had to point out just one thing that prevents me from enjoying it it's how long everything takes. When I boot up WoW within 30-40 seconds I'm already in the game. To start a game of Heroes III it takes maybe 10 seconds before you're on the map. VII takes 3+ minutes just to show you the main menu between Steam, Uplay and absolutely insane load times. Combat takes too long. Somehow power creep from VI found its way into VII as well and map designers have to put out huge stacks of neutral creatures just to have a chance at countering the power players obtain naturally. Animation speed and other small things slowing you down just don't help. It's a slog. By the time I complete one fight I'm already asleep.

You probably thought I'd be complaining about mechanics or economy or maybe even the editor, and believe me there's plenty to complain about there, but enjoyment of minute-to-minute gameplay is an important thing that not a lot of people think about.

>>4452926
I think HoMM could have amazing life on mobile and consoles. Don't try to shove it into Unreal Engine 4 for no reason other than to have baby's first weather effects, go with low-key graphics but get the fundamentals right. Give if good, clean sprite graphics. Just make it a quality, accessible budget title. People should be able to take their Nintendo Switch, find an MP game and play a small map without much hindrance.

It's hard to talk about how to make a HoMM game that will sell because pretty much no title since Heroes 3 launched as a finished, functional goddamn product.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 05:49:33 2017 No.4454229 >>4454225 Who /HW/ here )))

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 06:00:06 2017 No.4454232
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I can't stress enough how important the map editor is for a Heroes game. Back in the day developers understood that having some kind of editor for your strategy game to let people create custom content is a sure way to prolong its life. The most successful one by far was WC3Edit that was so powerful it literally sprang entire game subgenres. An Editor in a Heroes game should be easy to use by just about anybody and allow easy access to all the features of the game. I know it's not that simple to create an easy-to-use map editor for a 3D game but it's not an excuse not to try. In case of Heroes VII, the developers didn't try at all.

Heroes VII editor is basically just Unreal SDK with a mod slapped on it. If you want anything done you need to know Unreal because everything - from handling of assets to scripting is done not through inherent game mechanics but through Unreal's own capabilities. In Heroes 3 or 4 you could basically do everything devs could do. In Heroes 7, all the campaigns and premade scenarios are designed over game's native mechanics instead of with them but more on the campaign later. Instead of creating art assets level by level they should've thought of multiple possible landscapes and then created art assets to go with that, you know, exactly like in H3 and H4. The campaign feature is basically an afterthought, it just lets you chain separate scenarios to an arbitrary cap of 7.

While I know there's people who wrestled with editors of 5, 6 and 7 to create somewhat impressive stuff, it's fucking autistic to expect a 13 years old girl booting up a program that takes more computer power than the main game itself and trying to learn Unreal. Meanwhile my young cousin was making her own H3 maps back in the day.

It's fucking pathetic.
Foresight. Accessibility. Integrity. Fuck.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 06:08:57 2017 No.4454245
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I'm not gonna rag on the graphics too much because they're... serviceable. It's okay. Creature models aren't really designed to be looked at from the angle you're looking at them at and at max camera they just turn into a mishmash of pixels. Every creature should be easily recognizable by major details and silhouette when you look at them top-down. If you want to know what I mean look at Heroes of the Storm and how they purposefully exaggerate body features and key details of characters so that you don't ever confuse them on the strategy map. Oh yeah, and town screens are awful. Amateurish, nonfunctional drawings with bad sense of perspective, coloring and scale. Every single one.

So the campaign. The campaign basically exposes that developers don't understand a single thing about how to make a Heroes game. It's a pretty poor introduction into Heroes because almost every single scenario rather than trying to teach you something about the gameplay wants to tell you a "story". Map one of Necropolis is basically a glorified cutscene. You can't really lose, but you have to watch predetermined events played out in front of you. Map three of Haven is the same - you're attacked by forces set up in a way to destroy the defending hero in a set number of days. It's not gameplay, it's masturbation. Goals of each map have almost nothing to do with what an average actual game of HoMM would look like. Remember I talked about scripts over native gameplay? That's it. They replaced the gameplay with "experiences". It's at best a quest game for dummies.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 06:17:43 2017 No.4454256

Maps often have no sense of scale. Haven 3 is a map set entirely in one city. A city that has other cities inside it and can't be traversed in a game week. Yes, week. Seven turns represent a fucking WEEK, Limbic. And it's always raining. If it was raining that much the whole citadel would be fucking flooded. For the same reason you can't have a Heroes map be set at night because one turn is a goddamn day. Heroes VI DLC made by Limbic had the same problem - Crag Hack had to take two weeks just to break out of an underground temple. Just how big is that temple, Marzhin?

And the story sucks too. TWO entire campaigns taken up by the trope of "dumb guy, smart aloof girl". Lesbian genies.Dead horse "orcs = noble savages oppressed by X" trope. Viking dwarves being viking dwarves at their Ironforge/Moria expy. It's so. Fucking. Bad. The dialogue reads like it's written by some social studies graduate. Probably is. But my favorite? At some point, you have to "rescue refugees" from a city captured by wizards. Refugees. You're playing as necromancers. The refugees are skeletons. REFUGEE SKELETONS WHAT THE FUCK EVEN

Aside from that, yeah, economy isn't thought out very well, magic is insanely OP, skill system is uninteresting and mostly shallow while deceptively bloated, multiplayer didn't function on release and still barely does, RMG is pretty weak, AI hasn't been good in those games in ages, UI is amateurish (why do you have to animate combat loss counter and waste 7 seconds every time I finish a battle).

There's just really no reason to play this over 3 or 5. And I know no new game can possibly match the custom content created for 3, that's understandable. But at least it should provide an accessible feature set so that one day it would be possible. Accessible. Functional. Polished. Gameplay over "experiences". Look at HotA project. Figure out a way to give people more creatures, artifacts, possibilities without nuking your budget (hint: not every game has to be AAA).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 06:19:47 2017 No.4454259 File: 831 KB, 1182x665, fgdsa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trolls were a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 08:16:35 2017 No.4454345 >>4433401 >Castle Tyris >Rampant Jenova >Tower Josephine >Inferno Fiona >Necropolis Charna >Dungeon Lorelei >Stronghold Shiva >Fortress Tazar - okay Tazar, fine >Conflux Ciele

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 08:34:57 2017 No.4454363 >>4454259 We need our government to regulate the Internet to protect our #fierce & #empowered heroines like Ciele from such vicious cyber trolling! Safe spaces for all womyn now!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 10:10:12 2017 No.4454443 File: 1 KB, 58x64, jaegar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4454345 >Not liking Jaeger Just look at that lusty face

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 10:24:00 2017 No.4454452

>>4452926
Uronically I think HoMM 4 with new graphics but with the factions of HoMM 3. Same gameplay mechanics but nerf heroes a bit so you don't just go grandmaster combat and some healing every game. I feel it had the best potential but because of the gutted budget they were forced to make some bad and hasty decisions.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 12:02:57 2017 No.4454549

>>4454232
>it's how long everything takes. When I boot up WoW within 30-40 seconds I'm already in the game. To start a game of Heroes III it takes maybe 10 seconds before you're on the map. VII takes 3+ minutes just to show you the main menu between Steam, Uplay and absolutely insane load times
For sure first I thought maybe it was my PC but the game's just unoptimised as hell.
>Somehow power creep from VI found its way into VII as well and map designers have to put out huge stacks of neutral creatures just to have a chance at countering the power players obtain naturally.
This is good imo. Why would you want to to just rape through everything especially with how overpowered spells and magic are? It just makes creeping trival and also balances risk and reward when wanting to break through the so called 'boss stacks' or dragon stacks in some maps. Also you get use your brain a little more when you can't just stomp stacks with braindead spell casts or auto combat.
>Animation speed and other small things slowing you down just don't help. It's a slog. By the time I complete one fight I'm already asleep.
Yeah fuck that.
> but enjoyment of minute-to-minute gameplay is an important thing that not a lot of people think about.
doesn't matter much to me that much when I sit to play HoMM I make sure to have more than just 2-3 hours in general so while its annoying it won't make me loose my shit or hinder the enjoyment unless its really bad.

>>4454232
Can't comment on the editor for 7 after 5 I haven't bothered with it for almost the exact same reasons you mentioned.
>>4454245
Yep the visuals for the game are awful in general considering the system requirements even.

As for campaigns yes they were mostly made for non-heroes fans those who say don't want a challenge and blaze through content like in their usual modern games+extreme SJW pandering which is disgusting tbqh.
I won't even mention the AI that shit is just awful.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 12:13:42 2017 No.4454567

>>4454256
As for skill system its feels like a downgrade from 5 but better than 6 in terms of unique mechanics they really shine in the multiplayer where you don't have to deal with a dumb AI.
This is epseicially great if you have a friend to play with constantly the faction uniques really aren't as awful as 6 where you JUST had to pick reinforcement/restoration etc and watch the healingfesta commence. The maps while I totally agree with you there were more traditional in the sense of having more than 1 pathway like in 6. The map for that game was just atrocious. So all in all its a good distraction from 5 and 3 for me.

As for magic you're spot on yea I don't know I just can't do shit against actual good academy heroes on medium maps it also doesn't help that basically the only faction minus dungeon with any anti magic capabilities is academy itself. That faction just feels overpowered as hell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 12:17:11 2017 No.4454573 >>4454567 >like in 6 meant different from 6

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 12:24:24 2017 No.4454585

almost forgot to mention my biggest complaint about spells being overpowered are the bugged ones like holy hell you know the blizzard bug right? It acts like a cage and the AI unit(never human of course) instead of stepping out of it stays inside for the duration of the effect the shits just insane especially when creeps only have 1 unit in them its just ridiculous and abusable to think they actually managed to create a more interesting spell thanks to a bug.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 13:29:43 2017 No.4454659 Why don't Russians make a new M&M?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 13:51:08 2017 No.4454683 >>4452926 M&M 6,7 and 8 can be very solid mobile titles after the full interface rehash.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 13:52:30 2017 No.4454687

>>4454549
>Why would you want to to just rape through everything especially with how overpowered spells and magic are?
It's less of an argument to make creeps easier and more of an argument to reduce player power. Battles take too long precisely because you have so much sustain options. Bigger numbers don't mean better game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 14:18:13 2017 No.4454732 >>4454683 >after the full interface rehash. What? What are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 14:41:33 2017 No.4454779 >>4454659 Eador: Genesis is pretty close, but it's more like Age of Wonders.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 14:45:47 2017 No.4454791 >>4454779 Clearly he said M&M, not that piece of shit heroes spinoff

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 14:48:04 2017 No.4454794 >>4454791 Russians don't play M&M though.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 14:54:38 2017 No.4454807

>>4454732
Convenience for the mobile users and convenience in general. You don't have a keyboard and every element should be easy to press with your finger.

Right off the bat:

- Backpack NWN2/KotOR style with an auto-sort function.
- Available weapon comparison when equipping
- KotOR-style target highlighting with menu could be useful(attack, cast spell, use a potion, etc)
- Search in your journal and notes by the keyword with auto-completion
- Auto-loot and auto-identify as an option looks like a good idea
- Add some pointers for the alchemy(full-blown alchemical tree). Good alchemist must have an information on ingredient whereabouts
- Pointers in general if you supposed to know that stuff already: for example, it would be nice to see where the Master of Air can be found when you inspect your Expert Air skill.

and so on.
>>4454794
A мyжики-тo нe знaют.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 14:58:20 2017 No.4454815 >>4454807 Oh right, I thought you meant it was something already in the works, got excited for a second there.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 15:37:59 2017 No.4454861

>>4454807
At this point it's pretty obvious that if one was to make a new M&M game old tanky blobber isn't something that's worth keeping as the defining feature. Some kind of modern RPG should be taken as the framework and what should be taken from M&M are its more abstract design features such as open world design, class progression, side choices, final plot twist (ayylmaos all along) and so on.

MMX did everything backwards and copied archaic system design instead of those things and what do you know, it was bad.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 15:40:45 2017 No.4454871

Some advices for first play in Isle of Terra? I'm playing this part in old-school way (I writing everything on my notes with pencil) but I'm curious if there exist some bad trap, left by programmers (f.e. if you don't have strength on level 100 in this dungeon you must start over again). I don't wanna to repeat all game

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 15:49:35 2017 No.4454886 >>4454807 Kotor style?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 15:56:54 2017 No.4454894 File: 14 KB, 102x129, bestelf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4454871 Also best elf

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 16:17:08 2017 No.4454940

>>4454886
Yep. I've been playing it on my Xperia Z3 and the experience was surprisingly nice. UX guys did really well in this port. And they haven't butchered the game at all.
A large chunk of UI can be just pasted into M&M with a minimal modification.
>>4454861
Well, I've been trying my best to answer the question. I think that after the interface update and some minor graphical changes, like a good texture filtering, 20$ for any of these games would be a steal: they are brimming with content.
I also think that the inability of modern audience to read and enjoy text-rich and hard games is blown out of proportion.
The main gatekeeper is a lack of proper tutorial(as if not explaining the basic game mechanics is a good thing) and a horrible, clunky interface.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 16:25:45 2017 No.4454956 >>4454871 just kill yourself at this point, sadly M&M3 sucks cocks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 16:37:59 2017 No.4454978 >>4454956 This is bait

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 18:29:26 2017 No.4455154

>>4454871
No, that's only in MM4 (and it's explicitly mentioned in the pastebin) and even then if you have WoX you can just go to Darkside and get those skills up.

There really aren't any game ending traps in MM3 because you can't just discard the essential quest items. I guess maybe you could get in a situation where you can't get the last power orb or something if you keep fucking up the Cathedral of Carnage that's just you. There are 31 power orbs and the game basically jumps near the end once you give 11 to any king. Even then you still need all the sequencing cards.

The series as a whole gets pretty casual friendly post MM2.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 19:55:48 2017 No.4455294 >>4452704 I don't really think it's controversial. People may dislike HoMM 4 but it has a wonderful narrative

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 23:59:19 2017 No.4455645 >>4455294 Was Gsuldot a gay? A homo- sexual?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 00:56:26 2017 No.4455729 >>4455645 Yes & no.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 04:16:14 2017 No.4455913 >>4455294 Inserting 100-page novels between each game isn't a good video game narrative even if those novels are Tolstoy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 12:35:44 2017 No.4456480 >>4455645 Gsuldot ?!?!?!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:47:54 2017 No.4456694 >>4456480 Xplosive Jebus' cousin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 15:05:10 2017 No.4456725 If there is one heroes unit that you would like to sing the "you are soooo beautiful...to me...." song to, what unit would that be? Hard mode: No Venom Spawn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 15:38:07 2017 No.4456786 Has anyone ever played the Homm4 expansion campaigns from start to finish without killing themselves?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 15:51:56 2017 No.4456814 >>4456786 Glad I haven't even tried!

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:32:04 2017 No.4456961

>>4456786
I did actually finished the expansions ONCE. The Gathering Storm is not that bad as far as I remember but Winds Of War I recall that getting really frustrating on later stages.
I am one of those rare people who actually love Homm4 so that is probably the only reason why I could push my self through it.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:04:50 2017 No.4457030

>>4456786
Gathering Storm is fine because they use some of the gimmicks well such as stealth. The writing isn't terrible, it just isn't good. Then you have the last campaign which is pure hero zerging, but it's easy enough if you weren't incompetent with skill selection.

Winds of War on the other hand just feels awkward from the start. There is no character motivation other than pursuit of power and then even then there doesn't seem to be some big reason to take the city, like a fountain of magic or some big artifact. When you finally get to the last scenario if you built heroes well it's harder than it should be because you only choose 1 and fight against all the others in one scenario (whereas if you played like an idiot and only built 1 hero correctly you are optimized), it's not even a fucking campaign. Then you put a 6th faction in the middle for no obvious reason, and even put the ultimate level 40 hero in the gate outside rather than in the city so you can just hit and run after killing the main hero.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 00:35:45 2017 No.4457826 >>4457030 Ew

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 00:40:08 2017 No.4457832 >>4432081 Exactly this. 8 is pretty good tho imo. I never had the heart to give 9 a real chance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 00:40:24 2017 No.4457835 >>4456725 Pixies from Heroes 5

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 08:03:35 2017 No.4458187 Is creature bank meta a good thing? Would you enhance it (provide more options, more diverse banks) or try to suppress it if you were in charge of a new Heroes game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 08:45:33 2017 No.4458231 >>4450580 The only friend I've ever met thanks to HoMM3 is a girl.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 09:51:01 2017 No.4458318 >>4458187 Imo lowering castle development cost is a better option.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 14:09:54 2017 No.4458749 >>4458187 Continuous balance patches like Dota 2!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 14:55:29 2017 No.4458821 >>4458187 >creature bank meta You mean the "end game army is 120 wyverns + random irrelevant shitters from you actual castles" crap? Because no, that's the most cancerous part of H3 MP.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 15:07:20 2017 No.4458850 >>4458187 >(provide more options, more diverse banks) That's already been done with HotA.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 15:09:07 2017 No.4458852 >>4458187 What's the deal with creature banks, anyway? >Those gryphons have been holding these angels hostage! >Gee hero, thanks for freeing us

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 15:34:40 2017 No.4458910 >>4458318 >Imo lowering castle development cost is a better option. But it isn't that high? It's just not balanced around 200% and it shouldn't be.

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 17:49:31 2017 No.4459083

Okay so I have never in my life played a MM game before. I just picked up MM6 and I feel a bit overwhelmed at what to do and how things work. I usually grasp mechanics and so on very quickly but I haven't yet landed completely in MM6. I do have the mouselook mod installed which made things a bit easier though.
Basically, can someone provide me with reading material on how the game works and I'll gladly read it through.
Also, jesus christ there are goblins and spellcasters everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 18:05:52 2017 No.4459108 >>4459083 As always, read the pastebin. We suggest for you to immediately go for bows with instructions on how to do it. You can certainly play without them early, but it makes things much harder than they should be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 18:09:02 2017 No.4459117 >>4459083 Also for reading material, isn't the manual included? You should be able to find it in the folder where you installed the game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 18:27:57 2017 No.4459151 >>4459108 Shit, I missed that part at the bottom of the pastebin. Should've known. >>4459117 Didn't see one, might not have looked hard enough. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 18:36:07 2017 No.4459168 I always disliked the way bows work and that whole "walk backwards and shoot" thing. But at least early on its seems like the only way to deal with hordes of enemies.

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 18:40:52 2017 No.4459171

>>4459168
You don't have to, it just makes things so much easier. The non-bow way involves picking up the sword in the stone on the hill (since you have +10 might from the fountain) and then doing a lot of hit and run to the fountains and the temple. It's simply easier with bows because you can hit them while they can't hit you aside from the mages which don't actually hit that hard in the first place unless you take on 30 at once (where you can use walls to block shots).

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 19:52:05 2017 No.4459286 >>4452492 >>4452513 >skelly with hair

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 23:53:20 2017 No.4459683 >>4440268 2 has more appealing graphics, charm, and immersion 3 generally made better choices and had more options Give me 3 with the look, sound, and feel of 2, and balance the fucking monsters/factions!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 00:28:47 2017 No.4459747 >>4426018 Literally the worst town

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 00:33:26 2017 No.4459761 >>4459286 IT'S FUCKING A HOOD

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 06:26:20 2017 No.4460108 Tfw having more dreams about M&M8 than actually playing it

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 06:57:15 2017 No.4460127 >>4460108 The opening was pretty dramatic watching the minotaurs getting flooded and the trolls getting melted. 6 has the best opening by far though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 09:42:37 2017 No.4460314 How is HoTA for SP? Is it a meme?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 11:32:01 2017 No.4460435 >>4460127 7 is BY FAR the best opening

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 11:34:30 2017 No.4460437 >>4460314 It's shit that only Russian hackers who stole the election from Hillary like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 13:28:36 2017 No.4460645 >all this fucking homm discussion Don't you dare touching me you disgusting filths

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 14:10:02 2017 No.4460712 What musikkk do you listen to when playing Geroi TRI, my droogs? I love listening to some good gangsta rap like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBhnsFAhGx4 Way more better than that govno blyat music that play all the time BAKA

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 14:11:25 2017 No.4460715 >>4460645 wut

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 15:56:51 2017 No.4460885 So I've got my cartographer for dat dere lazy Wizard's eye casting. Master level has me thinking though, what do they mean by "points of interest"? I'm thinking fountains and maybe the sword in the rock perhaps? What does Master level actually reveal?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:06:24 2017 No.4460901 >>4460885 Things you interact with (fountains, skull piles, wells, cauldrons, etc). It's not a big upgrade, expert is the important one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:08:32 2017 No.4460904 >>4460314 If you mean the campaigns they are pretty bad. Playing single scenarios is just fine though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 00:06:32 2017 No.4461791 >>4460712 I love listening to Zayn Meklike & Jedna Direction

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 06:47:47 2017 No.4462160 >>4461791 Butifel taste my bratanski Let's go twenty to one some devotchka and give her the good old in out in out

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 07:52:00 2017 No.4462196

>get the itch to play HoMM III
>unfortunately, was forced to install linux (ubuntu), because my hard disk is corrupted except the last 25~ GB
>fuck, well at least there's Wine...
>it works, but not really
>I can play campaign fine, but game stops responding after choosing singleplayer
>PlayOnLinux is fucked somehow, there appears to be a corruption among the fuckton of wine files and dependencies, which most likely cause those problems
>it's of course a nightmare to reinstall this shit

Fuck, when will I have enough money for a new fucking PC - there's not even a point in changing the drive as it's a 10 year old laptop and my newer computer has also a fucked up hard disk ree

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 08:34:19 2017 No.4462235 Okay, I've got expert air magic and static charge is supposed to cost 1 sp, it doesn't though. It drains 2 sp, how come? MM6 by the way.

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 09:00:40 2017 No.4462260

>>4462235
Did you actually get expert training? Just getting to level 4 isn't expert, you have to find the trainer (and the one in New Sorpigal is hard to get to if you don't know what you are doing).

If it is actually costing 2 sp with expert it's a bug. I would never have noticed it because you really shouldn't bother with the spell at that point. Sparks is the best spell close and at range you should use bows. The static damage of the starter spells really don't do much good after the first couple levels.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 09:10:07 2017 No.4462265 >>4462260 Yeah I'm using sparks and I have expert magic, just happened to notice it by chance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 15:59:54 2017 No.4462863 >tfw the Sparks between us are gone

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 21:00:40 2017 No.4463412 File: 36 KB, 570x714, CostPerHP.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 21:36:05 2017 No.4463459 >>4463412 >Kolumn1 >Mortal Kolumn 1

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 22:43:07 2017 No.4463582 I'm trying to get into pre-World of Xeen games, but the PC versions aged like milk. Are there any console or other platform better versions of M&M 1-3?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 22:44:15 2017 No.4463584 >>4460314 HotA """Balance""" means making Necro completely worthless and their OC Donut Steel faction horribly broken OP. It's not a good mod, contrary to popular belief.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 22:45:41 2017 No.4463587 >>4463584 LMAO russians btfo again I knew this without even reading about it, I just knew the russian kunts would ruin the game for MUH balance

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 22:49:34 2017 No.4463596

>>4463587
Their idea of balance was literally just making Necro unusable-tier awful, while making their Pirate faction more OP than Necro ever was.
Kinda like russian design philosophy in all their online games they make, like World of Tanks and War Thunder where Russians have magical super secret document "is of accurate komrade" OP bullshit, Germans are literally borderline unusable bad and the other nations are more or less "balanced" among eachother, but Russian faction steamrolls everything.

Shadow of Death/Complete +HD Mod is still the pinnacle of Heroes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 22:56:38 2017 No.4463613 >All this Russia trashtalk. POst your evidences.

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 23:45:43 2017 No.4463651

>>4463582
3 is just fine and it's the same generation as WoX. The port is awkward and doesn't add anything.

For 1-2 if the graphics bother you, you probably might as well move on. We don't suggest 1-2 for people that can't handle 80s graphics and gameplay. There is a NES version of MM1 with improved graphics, but if I remember right you can't even change characters. For MM2 the PC version is the best as well. You could also try the apple version of 1-2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 00:26:39 2017 No.4463702 >>4463651 Guess they just aren't for me then, since they're too dated for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 05:47:59 2017 No.4464038 File: 15 KB, 384x308, 5-MM2-1951.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4463582 >Are there any console or other platform better versions of M&M 1-3? MAC ports are nice but it's fundamentally the same game with a slightly more palpable UI

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 06:10:14 2017 No.4464060 File: 301 KB, 1570x860, sor_tree.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4463412

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 06:33:20 2017 No.4464079 >>4463584 I hate Russia so much! It's because of them we will never get another Might & Magic game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 06:39:23 2017 No.4464083 Anyone play nondos version of homm2 with dxwnd? Can't get it to work, not sure which settings I need

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 06:42:47 2017 No.4464087 >>4464079 First they ruined Dota, now Hota..... I wish we had elected Hillary so that we could've nuked Russia into oblivion. #FuckDrumpf

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 06:46:17 2017 No.4464092 >>4464083 Nevermind, the reason I wanted dxwnd was to go window mode so I can take screenshots, but turns out you can do that with just pressing F4

Anonymous Sat Dec 16 08:02:55 2017 No.4464154
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lol

I'm like a turn away from winning and there are no obelisks on this map, but I know the artifact is still there somewhere.
Decided on a whim to dig with my non fighting heroes the last turn.
First hero I tried with wasn't on clear ground so he couldn't dig, the second one could and got the artifact.

Small map so I suppose it's not amazingly unlikely, like 1/100, 1/150.

On the final campaign mission of the evil campaign I got the ultimate artifact because the Tavern said it was in a swamp and the swamp is fairly small on that one despite the map not having any obelisks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 08:27:58 2017 No.4464179 >>4464154 Getting the army is a much better option. 16 black dragons and the other units carry you by themselves for the last scenario.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 08:36:57 2017 No.4464185 >>4464179 No you don't understand. The last line has nothing to do with the mission before the final evil mission. I dug it up on "Apocalypse" because of a tavern rumor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 11:42:53 2017 No.4464436 Who's gopt the best girls?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 14:40:20 2017 No.4464660 >>4464436 homm2 sorceress homm2 necromancer

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 20:14:50 2017 No.4465269 >>4464436 HoMM4 order

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 20:25:44 2017 No.4465303 >>4465269 You some sort of pedo? You like them halflings, motherfucka?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 20:39:55 2017 No.4465339 What game has the best scenario community?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 20:49:28 2017 No.4465372 File: 361 KB, 1021x767, notown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 23:17:26 2017 No.4465641 >>4465303 Redhead lords and genies mainly. A halfling is fine too.

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 01:59:43 2017 No.4465882

Playing scenario Reclamation (no allies) on impossible. Even with a strong early game, it gets tedious and frustrating late game. Covering map to feed the main hero exp slows you down and the computer exponentially gains spells and units seemingly with no rhyme or reason. I have no idea how they out income me when I hold 10 towns and almost 3/4 of the map. That doesn't last long with 16-24 random cpu heroes running around with initiative and luck on their side.

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 06:21:28 2017 No.4466116

>>4465882
Play as Orange if you really like your tier7 units.

There are 2 lvl 7 dwellings that are of the same town type as Orange.

So that's what, another +6 tier 7 units when you get both of your towns up to that infrastructure and have conquered those dwellings.

I recall the map being frustrating due to it being harder to close the game with less movement spells, there are like 2 towns that can get town portal.
Only once did it ever seem impossible though, that was when I was red I think, and orange was inferno and got town portal.
I couldn't push into him because he'd always port his main hero to the town I was apporaching with a full inferno army with 50-60 arch devils.
I think I was also inferno and just had like 20 arch devils.

Last successful game I remember I was doing necropolis, pushing on one side with an army of just skeletons+ghost dragons leaving the rest for defense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 07:23:28 2017 No.4466168 >>4465372 I saw what you posted!! You filthy pedophile

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 08:02:48 2017 No.4466198 >>4466168 >HOMM screenshots are now pedophilia Dude, the game is older than you are.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 08:39:13 2017 No.4466230 I hate myself for being unable to stop playing H4

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 09:01:25 2017 No.4466252 >>4466230 same

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 10:45:17 2017 No.4466383 Why was >>4465372 deleted?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 11:03:29 2017 No.4466405 >>4466383 Indecent exposure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 11:32:00 2017 No.4466451 >>4466230 I hate myself (period)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 11:33:27 2017 No.4466452 >>4466451 see >>4433725

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 11:34:29 2017 No.4466454 >>4466230 Some of the campaigns are pretty good. The thing I mostly hate about is that the battlefields feel really small.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 11:35:23 2017 No.4466456 I hate other people and myself

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 11:40:32 2017 No.4466460 >>4466456 You're such a hater. I bet you love HotA.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 11:42:52 2017 No.4466464 >>4466460 never played it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 14:58:06 2017 No.4466903 File: 70 KB, 525x295, Kuyashii.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hate that the HoMM franchise died before all the lessons learned could coalesce into a perfect game made by competent people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 15:23:02 2017 No.4466956 Any trustworthy downloads for 5+DLC? I know it's on gog but ubi does not deserve my money after raping homm and siege

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 15:42:40 2017 No.4466983 >>4426408 That was great. Paul is a fucking beast

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 15:44:33 2017 No.4466989 >>4466956 pay for it on GOG to feed the Slavs who made it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 15:45:17 2017 No.4466990 >>4466956 Misogynist

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 15:47:56 2017 No.4467002 File: 1.67 MB, 3872x3236, 1513537129861.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4466989 aight >>4466990 >implying

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 18:58:27 2017 No.4467441 >>4467002 >women have more interesting lives than men woooooooooow

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 00:05:15 2017 No.4467980 >>4467002 Someone explain this pic. Did he write it/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 03:05:23 2017 No.4468262 >>4467980 She :-]

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 03:31:43 2017 No.4468287 >>4466956 https://goodolddownloads.com/?search=Heroes%20of%20might%20and%20magic%20V

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 05:30:54 2017 No.4468406 >>4467980 Right one is one of the original operators on release. Left one is last month's DLC

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 09:31:51 2017 No.4468673 File: 302 KB, 1570x860, AltSorc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4464060

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 11:47:17 2017 No.4468853 On all levels except physical, I am a druid >is useless in every single game of M&M and HoM&M

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 11:51:03 2017 No.4468859 >>4468853 Greater Druids in homm2 are fine

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 12:48:18 2017 No.4468967

>>4468853
I'm playing MM6 currently and it seems like a druid is no more useless than say the archer. They can heal, bring back the dead, cast telekinesis, deal damage with elemental magic, and transport the party. In other words specialize them in a few areas to cover the areas that your other casters are poor in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 12:49:17 2017 No.4468969 >>4468967 Or just get CSSS and you have everything you need covered. :^)

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 13:03:37 2017 No.4468991

>>4468969
I guess? First time players won't know where all the easy gold and exp is, or even where the promotion quests are located so other classes make the game much more enjoyable when exploring the world.
Not that you really need to be power gaming in the game anyways as you can't really lose desu.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 13:57:46 2017 No.4469060 How do I have fun playing MM8?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 14:46:38 2017 No.4469130 >>4469060 Lots and lots of booze.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 15:35:22 2017 No.4469234 >>4469060 Lots and lots of Save Game editor usage

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 16:09:27 2017 No.4469307 >>4469060 a bullet in the cylinder

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 16:13:03 2017 No.4469315

>>4468967
This is basically right. Druids aren't terrible in MM6. They are just so overshadowed by Cleric/Sorcerer that you don't need them.

>>4469060
Well it depends what you want and where you are in the game. The first couple zones are fine (and the temple of the snake is actually a really good dungeon). Don't break the game with Cauri, Blazen, or the first two dragons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 18:51:21 2017 No.4469665 >>4469060 Typo?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 20:56:44 2017 No.4470013 File: 5 KB, 92x100, unicornknight2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 06:11:12 2017 No.4470782 Threadly reminder that if you don't play HoMM in multiplayer, you don't know jackshit about the whole game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 07:23:16 2017 No.4470896 I LOVE multiplayer picks negropolis

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 07:37:37 2017 No.4470904 specializes in Logistics Heh....

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 07:59:24 2017 No.4470924 Opinions on 5.5?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 08:12:45 2017 No.4470929 File: 17 KB, 300x250, mr-t-300x250.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4470782 I pity da fools who play on small maps.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 09:40:11 2017 No.4471012 File: 466 KB, 1400x1050, _____________________________________________by_skorpiowka666-d7u4zpc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is Tamika so perfect /vr/ ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 13:55:33 2017 No.4471290 >>4471012 Shit art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 15:04:43 2017 No.4471425 >>4471290 that butt tho

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 22:52:37 2017 No.4472108

>>4471425
>12 spell power
>14 knowledge
>overworld magic huts gave me view artifacts, view heroes, stoneskin
>didn't even get magic arrow from my mage guild
>no sulfur so can't get to lvl 2
>finally trade for it
>summon boat, steelskin, dragonslayer
I..
need eagle eye

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 07:02:48 2017 No.4472704 >>4472108 thats what u get 4nplayin necroshitlis

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 07:53:50 2017 No.4472753 >>4472704 I'm playing Sorceress

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 08:22:19 2017 No.4472774 >>4472753 >playing a girl anon, it's time to come out

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 09:22:08 2017 No.4472826 ITT: We hate womyn

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 10:37:45 2017 No.4472913 >>4472826 I definitely hate harpies

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 10:39:28 2017 No.4472917 >>4472913 i hate you

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 10:50:58 2017 No.4472931 >>4472917 t. dungeonfag

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 12:49:18 2017 No.4473135 >tfw I had this thread opened all week to not miss a single new post >I probably mined 400$ worth of bitcoin for (((Hiro))) because of that and all my passwords were stolen by the built in malware

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 12:52:05 2017 No.4473140 >>4473135 >not using uMatrix inhales

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 12:54:04 2017 No.4473146 File: 103 KB, 769x377, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4473140 I'm using uBlock Origin which is the one recommended in this picture

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 12:58:43 2017 No.4473156 >>4473146 What discord is that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 15:24:05 2017 No.4473462 Is there permanent storage in MM6? I don't dare storing stuff in dungeons in case of resets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 00:04:53 2017 No.4474326 >>4469060 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j8cT_n3p7E

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 04:17:34 2017 No.4474589 >>4474326 Sseth is a legend God bless the merchant guild...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 07:47:43 2017 No.4474723 >>4474326 >ywn b a boy that gets altered

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 08:47:34 2017 No.4474778 Should I buy HoMM4 on GoG? I have 2 and 3 and I am conflicted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 10:00:20 2017 No.4474864 >>4474778 no, homm4 sucks, one of the few games I would deem unplayable.

Anonymous Thu Dec 21 10:57:32 2017 No.4474959
File: 1.21 MB, 1920x1080, 0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

how do I get a good HD with gog's H3 version? I'm using http://sites.google.com/site/heroes3hd/eng/download
I just want a simple nearest neighbor 2x but I don't understand the settings, I'm getting this ugly slightly distorted result

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 12:25:14 2017 No.4475104 >>4474959 You can literally set the resolution to whatever you please, what's the problem?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 12:41:20 2017 No.4475124 >tfw Hiro the fucking Jap-Jew still hasn't removed the built in malware RIP /hommg/

Anonymous Thu Dec 21 12:47:04 2017 No.4475135
File: 1.40 MB, 1920x1080, untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>4475104
no, it says "Source size", which isn't very clear
if I pick 1066x600, which is the lowest available for some reason, and clearly not the original resolution like it seems it would mean, I get the screenshot I posted
and if I pick 1080, I get this
it doesn't make any sense

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 13:40:53 2017 No.4475205 >>4475135 ah yes, "source size" is the desired display resolution. For mode set 32bit stretchable GDI I don't suggest using nearest neighbor for upscaling, try any of the algorithms with sharpening, bilinear sharpenx2 looks fine to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 13:59:21 2017 No.4475226 >>4475135 Try starting a map.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 16:34:46 2017 No.4475430 Going to play the complete edition again after a year or so. Any suggested scenarios, towns and heroes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 19:23:57 2017 No.4475720 Can I ask about the download from Megaupload in the OP? Asks me to install it through gog. I like to support gog any way I can, but still. I know there's no DRM on gog, but there won't be any problems installing it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 19:59:55 2017 No.4475786 I may be remembering this incorrectly, but can't you transport units between cities without having to ferry them?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 00:19:26 2017 No.4476076 >>4475786 Only in Russian Homam. In 4, all units can walk on their own. In 3 and earlier, no one can move without a Hero.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 00:20:29 2017 No.4476079 >>4475720 The megaupload download has a Virus

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 00:25:46 2017 No.4476086 >>4476079 Are you bullshitting me?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 00:53:06 2017 No.4476125 >>4476076 I meant buying a unit in a city and transferring them between your cities.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:28:40 2017 No.4476143 File: 107 KB, 645x571, settings.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4475135 This is what you want, anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 03:01:14 2017 No.4476224 >>4476079 what did he mean by this

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 06:03:04 2017 No.4476405 >>4474778 Campaigns are enjoyable. It must be pretty cheap and there are worse way to spend a few bucks. Also the soundtrack is the best in any Heroes game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 06:59:43 2017 No.4476447 File: 116 KB, 645x571, untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4476143 it's not available

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 08:19:32 2017 No.4476508 >>4476447 You can type in anything you want, even 1920x1080.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 08:20:34 2017 No.4476509 >>4476508 Oh wait, that's already there. But yeah, you can type in any custom resolution you want.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 11:51:21 2017 No.4476787 >>4476405 >soundtrack is the best in any Heroes game. hate this meme

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 13:55:05 2017 No.4476980 >>4476787 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vEXnWQOH0 Doesn't sound like a meme to me

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 16:30:33 2017 No.4477191 >>4476980 nothing beats Vivaldi inspired Homm3 soundtrack Homm4 soundtrack is stock music anyway

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 19:05:29 2017 No.4477460

I've been replaying the Gauldoth the Half-Dead campaign in Heroes IV and the writing is so top notch. I really enjoy it. I mean Heroes IV is definitely not as good as III but I'll never get the universal hate for IV. I prefer it over V any day and Ubishits boring campaigns.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 19:18:32 2017 No.4477482 >>4477460 >muh deep written homosexuals

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:03:28 2017 No.4477692 >>4477460 yeah, I've been playing V campaigns just to remind me why I didn't like the game, and holy shit everything is so padded, the story is fun, but needing a trillion restarts and constant troop amassing gets tedious as fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 22:24:14 2017 No.4477848 >>4477482 Gauldoth was gay?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 23:34:00 2017 No.4477936 File: 205 KB, 785x589, HoF3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] think I might play some homm3 next, feel kinda done with homm2 for now, maybe one more game as necro since my necro game this month wasn't on impossible like the others.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 04:53:47 2017 No.4478208 File: 13 KB, 431x431, confused.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4477482

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 06:32:07 2017 No.4478325 >>4475786 Only with a hero having Town Portal and advanced Earth Magic. Or with a hero between Infernos with built Castle Gates.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 07:30:13 2017 No.4478365 File: 339 KB, 1600x1200, 1450919358292.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] h-hey anon I was wondering if you'd p-partner up with me against some r-r-russians? i-it's cool if you're b-busy or whatever...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 07:44:13 2017 No.4478370 >>4478365 I played Heroes III against a girl I knew. I abused the fuck out of blind and she sucked... at the game only unfortunately. She always liked Tower and I would skellyspam her to death... weak. She stopped talking to me after a while

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 09:20:32 2017 No.4478435 >>4478365 There are no girls who speak English who like Heroes games (and the Russian ones only pretend to like it because in Russia females have to virtue signal to males since there's like way more of females than males there due to the WW2)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 15:38:43 2017 No.4478913 tfw still forcing myself to play Heroes IV on Chr*stmas

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:32:57 2017 No.4478978 >>4478913 terrible game

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:41:20 2017 No.4478991 >>4478913 awesome game

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:14:20 2017 No.4479041 >>4478325 Thanks, that's what it was.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:30:49 2017 No.4479059 File: 23 KB, 520x218, alskelly.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4478435 Are you new here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:46:43 2017 No.4479081 >>4479059 Photoshopped....

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:41:09 2017 No.4479252 >>4479081 >look it up >it's real holy fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:09:54 2017 No.4479543 >>4478913 I did. One way portals tricked me at second necro campaign mission.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 02:22:40 2017 No.4479747 >>4479252 IT IS NOT YOU LYING SCUM!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 02:26:32 2017 No.4479751 >>4477936 Wjhat's with the weird text font.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:09:28 2017 No.4479793 >>4479751 editing out his mlp names

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 04:26:49 2017 No.4479861

>>4478435
>in Russia females have to virtue signal to males since there's like way more of females than males there due to the WW2

i'm not sure if you know this but ww2 was a while ago which means that this imbalance only exists among the elderly. but if you want to date a 70 year old russian babushka then yes, you have the pick of the litter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 05:36:57 2017 No.4479912 >>4479861 But Russian nu-males still die early of alcohol poisoning.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 06:00:17 2017 No.4479926 >>4479081 Everybody knows Daddario is a HoMM autist so it's real. But even if it wasn't it wouldn't need to be a Photoshop to be fake, come on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 06:09:50 2017 No.4479934 >>4479926 >Everybody knows Daddario is a HoMM autist so it's real Why do you keep pushing this? Why do you like that ugly broad so much? She's still not ugly enough to like HoMaM.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 10:23:29 2017 No.4480167 >>4479912 I don't think you can blame that one on the nazis, Ivan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 11:37:51 2017 No.4480269 >>4480167 Drumpf is a nazi

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 12:32:26 2017 No.4480328 >>4480269 DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUMPF

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 12:56:34 2017 No.4480357 >>4480269 Nazis were brave and selfless idealist who were willing to sacrifice everything for their dreams; comparing them to Schlumpf is really inconsiderate and offensive, and I think you need to apologize to all nazis.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 12:58:12 2017 No.4480360 >>4480357 >Nazi worshipping Hillary supporter

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:18:23 2017 No.4480374 >>4480269 >Drumph >dump >donald duck >UMMMM DONT MAKE FUN OF AJIT PAI'S NAME ABLOOBLOOBLOO ;.; Is this you perchance?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 23:13:24 2017 No.4481241 All I want for Christmas is my new, perfect version of Might and Magic to come out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 23:31:54 2017 No.4481263 >>4481241 Russian mongoloids only care about Heroes games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 01:36:16 2017 No.4481395 What the fuck happened to this thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 02:11:01 2017 No.4481424 >>4481395 third worlders happened remember this thread two summers ago?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 05:00:35 2017 No.4481532 >>4481424 I do, it was just as bad

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 09:43:05 2017 No.4481681 >>4481241 I'd rather have a girlfriend, desu* (*desu means "to be honest")

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 09:50:08 2017 No.4481694 QUICK /VR/ WHAT ARE SOME SNOW/WINTER HEAVY MAPS IN HOMM3? IN THE FULL ORIGINAL GAME, SO EXPACKS BUT NO WOG PLEASE AND THANK YOU

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 10:30:13 2017 No.4481753 >>4481694 Select random map with all tower. The terrain will be almost all snow

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 13:17:40 2017 No.4481951 >>4479934 >HoMaM You need to leave.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 13:25:56 2017 No.4481957 >>4481951 Your mam is a ho

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 14:32:14 2017 No.4482047 >>4481957 That's true but that doesn't have anything to do with this thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 21:01:45 2017 No.4482797 >get back into homm3 >castle campaign is just 3 missions huh

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 10:24:39 2017 No.4483764 It never fails to amaze me how some dude manages to beat the shit out of General Kendal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZY2xiQxwaI >around 9:00

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 12:32:47 2017 No.4483956 >>4483764 I have literally no idea what a General Kendal is

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 12:45:14 2017 No.4483983 >>4483764 Boy, he's gonna get a really low score for this. >watch until the end And yep, fucking Zombie score. What a lamer!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 12:47:46 2017 No.4483986 >>4483956 Are you that "Might and Magic only" freak?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 12:49:55 2017 No.4483989 >>4483986 No, I am an average Russian poster (=never played any campaign, only 1 yr/turn MP games, cyka)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 12:56:21 2017 No.4483996 >>4483764 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbJHZkfeqF4 What a lucky loser. Look what kind of terrain he gets against those 5000 Niggas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 13:26:59 2017 No.4484030 >>4483996 lol, that's just insane luck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 15:54:44 2017 No.4484240 >>4483989 How many angels can you amass by week 2?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 15:55:54 2017 No.4484242 >>4484240 two cykas

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 15:59:37 2017 No.4484248 >>4484242 So approximately fifteen blyat?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 16:58:29 2017 No.4484372 File: 9 KB, 100x100, 25437502_1685035468227396_2119732227_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's christmas and succ wars is not out yet :( Santa Tazar why y u do dis?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 17:21:07 2017 No.4484407 >>4483764 How the fuck are you even supposed to win? I bet luring him away from the town only works in shitty early 2000s websites' walkthroughs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 02:43:01 2017 No.4485124 >>4484407 Heroes need to be optimized but you can kill with enough Archangels and Titans. It really doesn't fit in RoE as the difficulty matches some of the tougher SoD scenarios if you don't cheese it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 02:57:37 2017 No.4485132 >>4484372 Succession Wars mod is never coming out, accept it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 03:40:26 2017 No.4485178 >>4484407 I just standed near Steadwick on a 3rd week of a 3rd month, and General simply left the town with his entire army, allowing me to capture it. Yeah, it's that stupid. I guess he's scripted to do this kind of thing from time to time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 03:42:42 2017 No.4485186 You guys also may be intrested to see this in your free time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pmqp5sleO8

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 04:48:22 2017 No.4485251 >>4484372 Did Tazar ever get laid?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 10:07:01 2017 No.4485445 >>4485251 Ye, with you boyo, right now Tazar buttrapes him from behind

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 10:39:18 2017 No.4485503 File: 52 KB, 680x577, spurdocrag.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4485445 He'd have to come out from his pillow-fort first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 12:42:09 2017 No.4485673 >>4485186 Fuck this guy. Doesn't even take on the no might challenge we all voted for.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 12:51:38 2017 No.4485682 >>4485673 >we all voted for You thought no one would notice this post eh

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 13:12:20 2017 No.4485695

>>4484407
>don't level my heroes enough on the previous mission
>hit a wall on steadwick
It's the last mission I need to beat before I unlock the other campaigns, I must've cheated my ass off as a kid because I don't remember the campaigns needing this much powerplaying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 14:21:49 2017 No.4485775 >>4481753 Nice

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 14:41:30 2017 No.4485806 >>4485682 No, I just checked and he did it. :^)

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 14:52:50 2017 No.4485830

>>4485695

you're supposed to get Armageddon in the dungeons part of the campaign and rush your ass with efreets, you get like 10 dwellings in the previous scenario all of which have functional mage guilds, so the chance for getting Armageddon is very high. Choosing the devils is hard modo.

or alternatively exploit the fuck out of dragons dwelling + portal of summoning for infinite red dragons

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 16:31:31 2017 No.4486030 New thread: >>4486019

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 00:06:44 2017 No.4486802 Last for Magic >> Might

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 00:55:33 2017 No.4486872 Last for Battle Theme II (from Heroes IV) is the best Battle Theme.

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