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ITT: compromises and quirks you've grown to love

>> No.4419061

Those are not really compromises, though. That's just a hardware quirk, those hash patterns are supposed to look transparent on a CRT

>> No.4419078

I've grown to love affine textures. Not even joking.

>> No.4419082
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>>4419078
what is the name of this kind of warping then?

>> No.4419084

>>4419061
You'd have to have a pretty shitty crt fir that to happen. Mine was pretty crap and I could always see it wasn't transparent.

>> No.4419089

>>4419084
not him but the prominent flicker and rainbow banding also gave it away

>> No.4419090

>>4419082

I've not the faintest clue what the fuck is wrong with that Quake install, sorry. QuakeSpasm doesn't do that weird BUILD3D-esque warping, at least.

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>>4419090
no anon, that's what the saturn's texture warping looks like. it's saturn quake

>> No.4419095

>>4419060
>>4419061
It isn't really either, it is laziness. I have my Saturn on a consumer CRT with stock S-Video. The picture is crystal clear and the dithered meshes are mostly definitely not transparent.

>> No.4419116

>>4419060
I love the look of Sonic 3D blast, I wish more games had that 3Dish silicone like aesthetic

>> No.4419124

>>4419116
There's about a million games on the Saturn and PC that look like that...

>> No.4419130

>>4419124
literally what are you talking about

>> No.4419136

>>4419084
Not just a CRT, probably any consumer model will do, but also an RF connection to make it work better. So shitty video connection > shitty CRT to get faked transparency to look more proper.

>> No.4419137

>>4419130
3D prendered graphics, like the post I'm responding to was. Are you retarded or just pretending to be?

>> No.4419138

>>4419137
i was thinking of sonic jam

>> No.4419267

>>4419061
>those hash patterns are supposed to look transparent on a CRT

composite*

>> No.4419448

>>4419061
Remarkable, it's as if the developers had intended that shit

>> No.4419462
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No one would have come with the distinction between overworld/town map if it wasn't because of a memory/time limitation. Yet it has a lot of good properties.

>> No.4419676

>>4419462
Honestly it makes sense. If your overworld is on the same scale as your towns, you can't make a huge world and expect players to walk through it on foot. Even later games still do this kind of thing (for example, Tales of Symphonia on Gamecube is a fully 3D RPG that still uses this system).

What bugs me is that many modern (J)RPGs went away from this principle and went more for a menu-based approach, or a weird system of corridor-like maps that connect cities and dungeons.

Western RPGs go more for fast travel approaches, which is fine since it allows for a world to feel large but also not tedious to travel through.

>> No.4419726

>>4419061
>those hash patterns are supposed to look transparent on a CRT
BWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2/10 bro

>> No.4419743

>>4419136
Nah cause I used RF back in the day as well. I'm glad mine wasn't as bad as you describe though, I likely would have trashed it if it was that blurry.

>> No.4419759

>>4419092
>>4419082
You are using shitty emulators that use hardware rendering to break down the quads to affine mapped triangles. Real hardware has FAR less warping.

>>4419061
>>4419084
They look partially transparent on a standard crt + composite cable that all Saturns came with in Japan.

The real problem is that you can't put two or more transparent layers on top of each other, and lack of transparency also means you can't do better looking lightning (this is made worse with the Saturns nearly nonexistant lightning engine).

>> No.4420416

>>4419061
You'd have to have an utterly shit 2 inch screen running via RF for those to look transparent.
>>4419448
>the developers had intended that shit
Wrong. Why the fuck is there dithering in arcade games and old PC games then when those were always displayed on RGB monitors? It was an necessity/requirement due to limited colours available, it wasn't a choice.

>> No.4420427

>>4419092
>Randomly warps in a triangle pattern
>Its suppose to be quads
Thats the most obvious emu render bug i have seen