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This is the best Zelda game. Only nostalgia fags hate it.

>> No.4416959

>>4416950
i didn't hate it as a kid, but it didn't grip me the way the original zelda did

>> No.4416968

I DID hate it as a kid but I have since learned it is a B tier representation of perhaps my favorite genre. Challenge ramp is inconsistent, dungeons are samey. I think Faxanadu is better although it's also not without its flaws. I really need to get around to playing Legacy of the Wizard I picked up a copy like 2 years ago,

>> No.4416969

Why would nostalgia fags be the ones who hate it?

If anything, it's newfangled fags coming in and writing revisionist history with claims that nobody liked the game even on it's release that hate the game.

That being said I think it's not the best Zelda, but I'd still rather play it than most of the games released between 2000 and 2011.

>> No.4416974

But I am nostalgic for it. I grew up with Zelda 1 and 2. I was a little disappointed when Nintendo went back to the overhead perspective of the first game with LA and LttP rather than continue to move the series in new directions. But I suppose those games did bring a few new ideas to the series.

>> No.4416979

>>4416968
no way faxanadu is a fucking mess to play

>> No.4417164

>>4416974
In principal the 3D games should have taken up on its style of gameplay, but it ended up working out that directional attacking and blocking never really became an important aspect until years later.

>> No.4417181

sorry kiddo, didn't like it back in 1989 and still don't like it in 2017

>> No.4417184

This is the best Zelda game

>> No.4417195

>>4416950
>Only nostalgia fags hate it.

explain

>> No.4417204
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4417204

>>4416950
>This is the best Castlevania game. Only nostalgia fags hate it.

>> No.4417208

>>4417204

The assistant manager at my workplace insists this is the best game ever made. He's 54. He played tons of games until 5th gen.

>> No.4417219

>>4417204
this game isn't bad either

>> No.4417241

I can still remember my disappointment when that crappy game came out.

>> No.4417329

>>4416950
Didn't like it when it was new, haven't played it since. Maybe it's good. I don't know. Whatever.

>> No.4417337

>>4417208
>54
>assistant manager
Failure in life has shit opinions, who'd have thought?

>> No.4417345

>>4417337

Actually the manager is the owner and might retire this year, selling the company to the assistant manager. It's in the medical field so he'd be doing alright if that was the case.

>> No.4417348

>>4417337
Sir as the assistant manager I'm going to have to ask you to leave. Happy Thanksgiving.

>> No.4417367

>>4417337
Depending on where they work, that could be a very cozy job. You shouldn't judge without knowing the facts.

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>>4416950
Bad game: no
Best Zelda: nah

There's a reason people say it's the Zelda game for people who don't like Zelda.

>> No.4417458

Played it for the first time about a year ago and loved it. It's in my top 3 zeldas for sure, and considering I grew up playing other games in the series abd have tons of nostalgia for them, I think that says a lot about the quality of this one that it was able to outdo most of them.

>> No.4417609

>>4416968
Legacy of the Wizard is more of a Metroid than a Zelda 2. There's no RPG elements, it's just about finding items that enhance your ability to a explore a huge labyrinth.

>> No.4417625

out of the first 3 zeldas this is the only one i have beaten

the swordplay is excellent and i really wish it was somehow implemented more in the zelda games that came out for the next 3 decades

>> No.4417627

>>4416950
Played it once as a kid and wasn't impressed. Was thinking it was going to be LoZ_2.0. I've decided to give it a 2nd go tho as an adult and according to my tracking number this game will be in my mailbox today. Wish me luck :^)

>> No.4417632
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4417632

Zelda 2 is not the best zelda, but it's certainly better than the first one.
At least you have some clues guiding you around, you don't have to bomb every wall and burn every bush in the land in order to find stuff.
The swordplay is engaging, you have towns to visit, some really cool bosses and a certain sense of inpending doom.

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>>4416969
>Zelda 2 was the first Zelda game I got
>A friend, my brother and I hated it
>It became a meme between us three between like 1994 and 2007

We'd also riff Adventures of Dizzy. I actually have a weird nostalgia for that.

>> No.4417895

>>4416950
ehhh, they're all good. muh this and muh that ruin everything.

>> No.4417903

>>4416968
Shut the fuck up gramps
Its a top 5 NES game

>> No.4417905

>>4417204
Never played any castlevania, should i give it a spin?

>> No.4417915

>>4417903
No. Top ten by some metrics notably including sales but it would have to be a pretty specialized list to be in the top five.

>>4416979
I guess I should have said "I like it better". Faxanadu could certainly be more frustrating to most gamers as pretty much any frustration one might have with Zelda 2 can be ground right through (or cheesed) while the frustrating elements of Faxanadu are pretty oblique

>>4417609
Sounds good to me considering I enjoy actually sitting down and playing Metroid more than any of the NES ARPGs

>> No.4417924

>>4417905
It really depends on what kind of games you like to play. If you're used to videogames from the 80s and early 90s that are incredibly challenging, sometimes to the poing of being frustrating or confusing and don't mind to put in a lot of time to find out everything yourself then there's a probability you will love it. However, if you're not that patient and prefer to check walkthroughs when you're stuck then you are definitely going to hate it.

It's not completely different from the first castlevania control wise but the level design is. Some people believe Simon's Quest is one of the worst castlevanias or even one of the worst (might be fueled by internet opinions and so-called e-celebs, not completely sure cause I didn't play it back in the 80s and 90s), others actually like how different it is and the influence it has on the so-called "metroidvania" games like Symphony of the Night. Personally I think it's a fine game but I prefer other sidescrollers.

>> No.4418116

>>4417632
>At least you have some clues guiding you around, you don't have to bomb every wall and burn every bush in the land in order to find stuff.
>he and his friends didn't make their own carefully detailed maps, that they shared and discussed regularly over a period of months, keeping track of all the results from careful exploration
Please don't comment on Zelda, you weren't around then, you just don't get what makes it great, you never will. And I love Zelda II too.

>> No.4418136

>>4416968
>ramp
I wish the whole game was as hard as death mountain or worse.
I ain't even mad at death mountain. Not as bad as the infinite floating eyes that don't drop items.

>> No.4418220

>>4418136
I was thinking of the floating eyes. If everything was Death Mountain hard I think there would have been some blowback but at least it would have been consistent.

>> No.4418417

>>4417627
This was me^^^

So far so good. Having lots of fun. No idea what I was thinking the first time I tried it. Made it to the horse head boss then got my shit pushed in. Found the candle also so caves are now a breeze.

>> No.4418447
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>>4416969

if you'd take Zelda 2 over Shovel Knight, Cave Story etc. you're fucking retarded

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>>4418447
I'd take all of them.
What am I now?

>> No.4419740

>>4418447
>shovel knight and cave story
>anything but complete dogshit
WOW

>> No.4419757

>>4417208
I was an assistant for 4 years at 3 different locations before getting the manager title. I'm 32. Sometimes there aren't a lot of titles around.

>> No.4419758

>>4419740
Shovel Knight's pretty fun on multiplayer for Wii U imo. Can't sit through it on single player though.

>> No.4419785

>>4419740

sorry son looks like you're retarded

>> No.4419805

>>4419740
This

>> No.4419814

>>4418447
Cave Story was good for its time but it's aged horribly.

>> No.4419821

>>4419740
Cave story is a good game tho.

>> No.4419836

>>4419814
How has it aged when it's jumping, shooting, and collecting? The mechanics and level design sill are easy to work with.

The only reason I could call it horribly aged is the newer ports, but the original one still is good.

>> No.4419841

>>4419814
The only problem with Cave Story is the "flagginess". It's pretty dumb to have to go to the reservoir, shack, graveyard, and Arthur's house in that exact order.

>> No.4419852

>>4419740
Hi /v/!

>> No.4419858

>>4419852
Those games arent allowed on /vr/ so i dont understamd what youre getting at

>> No.4419925

>>4419814
>aged

>> No.4419935

>>4419858
>cave story
>genesis port
>not allowed
HAaa

>> No.4419958

People don't like the game and then fags who haven't played it say the same to look intelligent in the video game community.
The truth is Zelda II is fantastic. Even Shovel Knight took inspiration from it.

>> No.4419978

>>4419935
>cave story
>released in 2004
Yep, not allowed.

>> No.4420004

>>4419978
The rules only talk about the platform, not when the game was released. That's the only (and stupid reason) we can talk about Gothic or Neverwinter nights, but not about anything released on the GBA (arguably more retro)

>> No.4420007

>>4420004
Okay, but the Cave Story Genesis port was completely fanmade and unofficial. That still counts? If that's the case, that opens the floodgates.

>> No.4421047

>>4420007
>that opens the floodgates.
we never had floodgates
>>4237105

>> No.4421181

>>4418417
>Made it to the horse head boss then got my shit pushed in.
...how? You just jump and stab him in the head. I don't get how someone can be good enough at fighting to make it to him but not good enough to beat him.

>> No.4421213

>>4419978

"Released" in 2004, actually released much earlier. Cave Story is a PC indy game Nintendo got lucky by snagging.

>> No.4421223

>>4416950
lol, nobodu who actually played it hates it. It's pretty fucking fun, desu.

>> No.4421224

>>4416950
It's hard, but fun. In the grand scheme of NES bullshit, it's a pretty fucking great game.

>> No.4421237

>>4420004
>we can talk about Gothic or Neverwinter nights
Uh no we can't. Unless you're talking about the goldbox NWN, that is. Go look in some archives, you can find dozens of deleted Gothic and NWN threads.

>> No.4421527

>>4421181
I was low on health and on my last life. Killed him no problem the 2nd time we met. Also not using any guides or maps for a true first time experience. Since that post I've conquered the 2nd dungeon, acquired the hammer + glove, and made it to the seaside town with the bell tower.

>> No.4421638

>>4421237
Then i must be watching the spirit of those threads.

>> No.4421836

>>4418447
In this post: Anon demonstrates he has no fucking clue what word "most" means and that "most" is not the same as "all".

>> No.4421838

>>4421237
Deleted threads don't show up in archives, closed threads do.

>> No.4421849

>>4421838
he's talking of the warosu, not the 4chan archive

>> No.4423047

>>4421527
There aren't any truly tough puzzles in the game, but you might want to look through a scan of the manual since it mentions a couple abilities you might not realize Link has.

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>>4421213
>"Released" in 2004, actually released much earlier.