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4411129 No.4411129 [Reply] [Original]

Do you absolutely need a CRT television to play Battletoads? I've been thinking of picking it up but I've heard that on modern TVs the higher framerate creates lag, making some levels almost unplayable.

>> No.4411146

>>4411129

Not only do you need a cRT to beat battletoads, but you need to be running original hardware. Anything with a frame buffer like a modern display or emulation box is going to add a level of lag. I would argue that games like battletoads cannot be made these days due to the. Same could be said about rhythm games.

>> No.4411149

>>4411129
CRT is needed. Hardware too. Platformers and light gun games suffer when they're not using both. Also needed if you're playing as developers intended.

>> No.4411156

>>4411146
>>4411149
Damn. Original NES hardware isn't the problem, there's a used game store down the street that has a few NES's for sale, they probably also have an original Battletoads cart somewhere. But the CRT TV is a problem, my apartment is tiny and it's going to be difficult to find a place to store an extra TV.

>> No.4411158

>>4411146
>>4411149
how come people beat it emulated then? not trying to start shit, just confused

>> No.4411164

>>4411129
You must be 18 to post here
>>>/v/

>> No.4411171

>>4411156
>>4411158
Sund input and controller input problems come up. You can still play the games but you're not playing them as intended and still didn't complete the way they was meant to be.

Might as well listen to old music with the beats being wonky or colored old grey movies. It's a modification.

>> No.4411174

>>4411158
I'm curious too, I've seen playthroughs where people beat it emulated. Personally I'd opt for the original experience anyway because I feel like using save states is cheating, but it makes me wonder how anyone beat it emulated if the lag gets in the way.
>>4411164
What the hell is your problem? Is it somehow juvenile to post a Battletoads thread?

>> No.4411178

>>4411171
So emulation can get rid of lag, but the controls are altered?

>> No.4411183

>>4411156
Get one of those 9" trinitrons that are the hot thing these days

>> No.4411190

>>4411178
Emulation always have sorts of lag, even Ai lag by seconds. I've seen megaman X snes vs real hardware, the emulation was slower.

Input lag is when the button message computes slowly to the game. Sound lag is when music is off and sometimes distorted. Ai lag when the Ai moves slower in response.

>> No.4411205

>>4411158

Savestates. Basically they're cheating. If space is a problem, they did make some really small BVMs. If that's too much money a small CRT could be found on craigslist pretty easy.

>> No.4411869

How the fuck can you not have space for a crt? It's a tv, not a truck.

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4411882

>>4411129
>>4411146
>>4411149
>>4411171
>>4411174
>>4411178
>>4411205

I've got to say unironically, this thread is 10/10 pacha.jpg-worthy bait; you guys had me there for a minute and I really thought we had reached a whole new fucking dimension of self-delusion and rationalization.

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4411883

>>4411174
>>4411205
I thought it was implied, but I meant without using save states.
I don't even see what save states would do to help you that lives and continues wouldn't on stages like clinger winger

>> No.4412826

I beat the US version of the NES game on an HDTV that has input lag, twice, and made it pretty far on an emulator with high ping because I was co-oping it with someone across the world.

>> No.4412839 [DELETED] 

>>4411882
>>4412826
Nope.

Hopefully trump removes more roms. Rom stealers are losers.

>> No.4412992

>>4411164

stop ruining vr

>> No.4413061

>>4411171
God damn this is lightspeed suits.

>> No.4413064

>>4413061
Autism.*

>> No.4413065

>>4413061
Nah. You're autism.

>> No.4413085

>>4411129
It's not absolutely necessary, of course the game is still playable without one. It's just recommended so you'll get less input lag and better picture but that can go for literally every retro game. also bretty sure most people in this thread are trying to bait you.

>> No.4413403
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4413403

how about punch out

>> No.4413406

you definately need a crt for punch out right?

>> No.4413409

>>4413406
and a powerglove

>> No.4413414

i have an old panasonic lcd that has no input lag, I tested it by recording a crt and it at the same time

>> No.4413474

>>4413414
Are you sure that it's an LCD an not a plasma tv?

>> No.4413487

>>4411205
>James Rolfe always claims savestates are cheating and you don't really win with them or by using emulation
>then he admits that he "beat" Castlevania II using a cheat code but he totally played the early game first so going straight to the boss years later in his life with a code isn't cheating and he really beat it (Halloween Castlevania II video)

>> No.4413494

>>4413474
yep TH-L32X30A - tested using nes with composite going into both, its a few years old and doesn't have any smart stuff in it

>> No.4413496

>>4413414
Put it on YouTube.

>> No.4413808

>>4411158
You can beat it on a fucking emulator. poster is just memeing.

>> No.4413852

>>4411174
>>4411205
Because input lag is overblown, people act like it's 3 seconds when in reality, OP would never be able to tell the difference