/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4385372]

>people unironically think any Smash Brothers game is good when these exist

[Anonymous No.4385381]

Why not both? Not even the same kind of game. Smash is 2D plane while PS is isometric/3D.

[Anonymous No.4385392]

>>4385381
> isometric

[Anonymous No.4385396]

>>4385372
Smash is much better

[Anonymous No.4385405]

>>4385392
You never played it with other 3 people, did you?
Point being: they're different kind of games.

[Anonymous No.4385406]

>>4385372
I havent played powerstone btw

[Anonymous No.4385415]

>>4385372
only 3 people had a dreamcast and 1 of them got powerstone
also how does one game existing make another game less good. two things can be good, silly man

[Anonymous No.4385454]

>>4385405
You really want that word to mean something it just doesn't, anon

Smash is the one I didn't ever play that much 2bh

[Anonymous No.4385462]

>>4385454
That's why I added "/3D". Smash's movement is on a 2D plane, Power Stone is in 3D.
A lot of times it takes an isometric perspective especially on 4 players. In fact it's kinda similar to pic related in a way.

[Anonymous No.4385483]

>>4385381
>4 player fighting game with dynamic battlefields
>different kinds of game
Oh they're different alright. Power Stone lacked the piss ugly clusterfuck feature and had the smarts to put the game in a format that worked.

[Anonymous No.4385487]

>>4385483
You're just trying to make Power Stone fans look bad, or just wanting to bait into some silly "Smash vs Power stone" or sega vs nintendo kind of bullshit console war.
Just take your bullshit back with you to /v/.

[Anonymous No.4385498]

>>4385487
>being too thin skinned to ignore shitposting and not just posting more Power Stone in a Power Stone thread
You're why /vr/ has gone to shit.
Now you gonna pick a fighter or what?

[Anonymous No.4385508]

>>4385498
>/vr/ has gone to shit because they're intolerant to /v/-tier shitposting

[Anonymous No.4385510]

>>4385462
I feel I'm kind of being pointlessly antagonistic here for no reason, but well, this is /vr/.

Zooming out from the subject -like in Power Stone- makes any 3D view get increasingly "flattened" and lose most of the dramatic relative size distortion that makes perspective obvious in close quarters. It's just how camera lenses (and reality) work. That image is actually a pretty good illustration of the point: just compare the Thwomps: in an truly isometric view you could measure them with a ruler on the picture and they would be the exact same size; but you can see the one of the left (the one "closer") appears visually larger.

There are not that many classic games that use a 3D engine for actually isometric rendering. Final Fantasy Tactics does iirc, pic related

[Anonymous No.4385518]

>>4385483
It's pointless to even attempt to argue. Smash lives on while Power Stone is pretty much a literally who game today.

[Anonymous No.4385529]

>>4385518
PS really was a misguided attempt; Smash defined the future: why attempt to create something new when you can just graft together a bunch of characters people already know?

[Anonymous No.4385539]

>>4385529
Smash's development started as its own game, Dragon Fighter whatever.
The idea of making the different characters existing ones was added later.
I believe PS was one of the most renowed Dramcast games when they came out though. They just never got a competitive scene like Smash games did, at least not that I'm aware of.

[Anonymous No.4385545]

>>4385406
You should. It's a blast.

[Anonymous No.4385548]

>>4385539
Yeah, I believe Captain Falcon's moveset was based on the original main character they made for that prototype.

[Anonymous No.4385550]

>>4385508
Because they consistently reply to /v/ tier shitposting.
Real intolerance involves reporting and hiding. Don't make newfag mistakes.

[Anonymous No.4385553]

>>4385539
>competitive scene
Is it even possible to turn items and gems off in Power Stone? I don't recall having that option.
I would like to turn the gems off, never liked that luck element.

[Anonymous No.4385554]

>>4385545
The event-based stages in 2 kind of spoiled the concept for me; they should have at least implemented some randomization in there somehow.

Also wtf was up with the Zombie Jesus final boss

[Anonymous No.4385557]

>>4385539
How does the fact that they didn't plan on it from the get go change the fact that the game got an instantaneous audience and a ton of attention because it had Marios and Zeldas in it?

[Anonymous No.4385559]

I think there's Power Stone for PSP, will try that.
I was always interested in the characters.

[Anonymous No.4385564]

>>4385557
The Phillips CDi had Marios and Zeldas and nobody cared.
If a game isn't good, the characters don't actually matter.
Also, really, stop trying to try to get around it, you're shitposting, plain and simple. Stop falseflagging as a PS fan.

[Anonymous No.4385571]

>>4385553
>turning power stones off in power stone
Half the game is keeping your opponent from picking them up.

[Anonymous No.4385573]

>>4385564
You wound me sir. I loved to boot my Power Stone GD-Rom in my Sega Dreamcast bought on launch day

[Anonymous No.4385579]

>>4385559
Really compelling stuff in there 2bh

[Anonymous No.4385580]

>>4385579
I remember jerking off to this pic in my Tips & Tricks when I was 11.

[Anonymous No.4385585]

>>4385564
>If a game isn't good, the characters don't actually matter.
Explain Brawl then. Touché.

[Anonymous No.4385586]

>>4385381
Maybe they are barely the same kind of game, but yeah; why not both?

[Anonymous No.4385590]

>>4385571
That's why I don't like it, I'm ok with weapons but the high level CPU always know the exact location of the gems the moment when they spawn.

[Anonymous No.4385593]

>>4385571
And when you pick up three gems the combat boils down to spam your fullscreen attack and hope the other guy gets caught in it.

[Anonymous No.4385597]

>>4385585
Is Brawl still played in tourneys?

[Anonymous No.4385598]

>>4385372
>i'm the reason they created pity smash

[Anonymous No.4385601]

>>4385590
>CPU
That's your problem.

[Anonymous No.4385604]

>>4385559
The PSP collection is a collection of 1 & 2 with unique extras ( New items & the characters in 2 can be unlocked in 1/the bosses in 1 can be unlocked in 2), but Power Stone doesn't have much replay value without friends to be honest.

[Anonymous No.4385613]

>>4385557
> instantaneous audience

N64 used to barely get a fistful of releases per month. The instantaneous audience for every game at that time was the full fucking battered userbase

[Anonymous No.4385619]

>>4385585

Even casuals hate that game and dropped it immediately.

[Anonymous No.4385630]

>>4385604
This. Power Stone is a 6/10 alone, and a solid 10/10 with at least one more person.

[Anonymous No.4385657]

>posting social games on the autism board
ree

[Anonymous No.4385660]

>>4385597
tournfags can suck a big black dick t b h

[Anonymous No.4385664]

>>4385601
It's still a problem in multiplayer, you might be winning a match with a large advantage and then two gems spawn within close proximity of your opponent. I've seen it happen before.

[Anonymous No.4385676]

>>4385664
Sure, but those two gems could spawn near you at the same match. It really depends on whether you like a light element of luck or not. Fighting a CPU that has an instantaneous reaction to Power Stone spawns is bullshit, but in a fight between 2-4 human beings, that luck factor has a lot less bias, and the stones are potentially not even effective depending on the individual player.

In other words, never play PS alone.

[Anonymous No.4385680]

Is Smash Bros, or "Smash" as they call it, the most autistic game ever?

[Anonymous No.4385685]

>>4385676
>and the stones are potentially not even effective depending on the individual player.
Only if your friend is a brain dead idiot. The full powered characters absolutely rape everyone.

[Anonymous No.4385689]

>>4385372
>because this game is good nothing else is

ok

[Anonymous No.4385703]

>>4385680
By far.

[Anonymous No.4385705]

>'literally who' the game
>14 unique ip
dead af, bait thread is stale

[Anonymous No.4385707]

>>4385685
The potential is still there, moreso than a Power Stoned CPU.

[Anonymous No.4385718]

>>4385483
>absolutely nothing disproving this
kek the best really do die young

[Anonymous No.4385719]

I thought the vast majority of Smash fans were young enough to think Gameboy screens were touch compatible. Or is /v/ leaking again?

[Anonymous No.4385720]

>>4385657
>the autism board
>ree
Please go back to the autism board

[Anonymous No.4385721]

>>4385559
>>4385604
>PSP
Why would you do this to yourself? Just fucking invest in a DC and a few controllers (and of course copies of the games, which are getting more expensive desu) and play it without being gimped by a small ass screen, tiny speakers, and the awful PSP buttons. Also since they're NAOMI games, they look and run flawlessly on the DC.

[Anonymous No.4385725]

>>4385707
I'd like to see a video of someone knocking down a powered up character without heavily relying on luck.
Point is, people whine about the competitive scene in Smash Bros revolving around glitches but I don't think it's even possible to be competitive at Power Stone due to the gems.

[Anonymous No.4385726]

>>4385725
>taking fighting games of any kind seriously

[Anonymous No.4385735]

>>4385726
I'm ok with a luck element. The thing is if the game relies on luck too much it flattens the skill curve and the players will feel like there's no point in improving since everyone always has an equal chance at winning.

[Anonymous No.4385741]

>>4385726
I'm ok with a luck element. The thing is if the game relies on luck too much it flattens the skill curve and the players will feel like there's no point in improving since everyone, even beginners, always have an equal chance at winning.

[Anonymous No.4385752]

Aw shit, look what I found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB6zNGbfyNA
Who said there's no competitive scene?

[Anonymous No.4385762]

Better tournament:
https://youtu.be/oZ0pQaRjWV8
Skip to the final matches.

[Anonymous No.4385772]

>>4385372
i grew up playing the smash brothers games, so i am just more accustomed to them..

[Anonymous No.4385784]

Smash Bros is the only game series worse than sonic, PS is a masterpiece!

[Anonymous No.4385813]

>>4385372
Love Powerstone - the heart that went into designing it is classic Capcom. It's at it's best with a group who've never played it before.

[Anonymous No.4385904]

>>4385372
Power Stone is definitely better than Super Smash Brothers. But Nintendrones will deny this.

[Anonymous No.4386002]

>>4385904
Nintendrones also deny their body getting any soap or water so it goes without saying everything they touch is shit

[Anonymous No.4386023]

>>4385813
Amen to that.
When the surprises are legitimately surprising is when PS is at its best.

[Anonymous No.4386034]

>>4385580
i must be 11

[Anonymous No.4386073]

>>4385685
Garuda.

[Anonymous No.4386083]

>>4386073
Explain

[Anonymous No.4386094]

>>4385372
Power Stone is a great concept, but they really shot themselves in the foot. Between luck factor (great in party matches, not so great when there's supposed to be skill involved), hilarious efficiency of one single attack (okay, jump kick was slightly nerfed in PS2 but it still remained a single best tactic in the game) and matches devolving into spamming your powerstone attack it killed any chance of serious competitive scene staying a fun party game, but nothing more. And in fighting games, sadly, it's not enough.

[Anonymous No.4386096]

>>4386073
This. I've never seen worse use of a powerstone in my life.

[Anonymous No.4386101]

>>4386094
>it killed any chance of serious competitive scene
>this is somehow a bad thing
Tourneyfags ruin fighting games.

[Anonymous No.4386128]

>>4386101
Power Stone is not a fighting game.

[Anonymous No.4386136]

>>4386101
Well, let's look at fighting games that are still alive and are played actively (casually or not).
Now let's look at fighting games that still have a fanbase larger than three and a half autists on a niche forum.

Holy crap, look at all this overlap. It's almost like tourneyfags cling to good games, which, in turn, gives those games a further boost in popularity. I'm not saying Power Stone is bad, it's just the game you play occasionally with friends. It won't get a sequel, it won't get more content (which it desperately needs, i love Power Stone arenas but there's less than ten, goddamnit, and that's if we count Pharaohbot fight), it will be a fun but ultimately forgettable oddity.

[Anonymous No.4386142]

>>4386136
>It won't get a sequel,
Bububububut

[Anonymous No.4386149]

>>4386142

Spiritual sequels don't count. LASTFIGHT that recently got on steam is just... sad.

[Anonymous No.4386150]

>>4385904
>>4386002
>my mom didn't buy me nintendo systems when I was a kid, so I hate nintendo
Must have sucked to live a non-idort childhood.

[Anonymous No.4386159]

>>4386149
It got an actual sequel you fucking mongoloid, two arcade releases and a psp port.

[Anonymous No.4386163]

>>4386159
Okay, fine, ANOTHER sequel (even though in my post i mentioned pharaoh walker), you pedantic cunt.

[Anonymous No.4386376]

[Anonymous No.4386416]

>>43863763
Uhm....
hello?

[Anonymous No.4386419]

>>4386416
sorry, meant to quote this >>4386376
>>4386376

[Anonymous No.4387034]

>>4386002
So true. LOL

>>4386150
>Angry nintendrone detected
>my mommy didn't buy me multiple game systems at a time because we were poor & had to choose 1 at a time.
Poor nintencuck. Must have suck to only play on one console. Luckily for me I had a NES, Sega Master System, Game Gear, Game Boy, Genesis, SNES, Playstation, Sega Saturn, N64, & Dreamcast while growing up.

[Anonymous No.4387041]

>>4387034
Of course it's true. Smashfags even get called out for being disgusting slobs by Evo commentators. Only reason they're still allowed is because Nintendo drops money directly into Mr. Wizard's pocket.

[Anonymous No.4387087]

>>4387041
Yeah. Plus AVGN wears the same outfit all the time in his videos.

[Anonymous No.4387118]

>>4385372
Playstation All Stars Battle Royale >>>>>>>>>>>>> Power Stone 2 > Power Stone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting raped on the streets by a big black man >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smash Bros games

[Anonymous No.4387137]

>>4385580

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xob0u2ePgVk

[Anonymous No.4387141]

>>4387137
Wasn't expecting Fupoo to be the uploader. He's my fav hentai artist.

[Anonymous No.4387174]

>>4387034
>n-no you!
Nice argument, single-system peasant.
Awful childhood, you had.

[Anonymous No.4387180]

It's sad to see all this false-flagging and console warring shitposting in what could have been an otherwise nice Power Stone thread.
Some of you may be older than 12, but not mentally.
Fuck OP and fuck console warring shitposters.

[Anonymous No.4387187]

>>4387180
Chill man, while I agree that OP is probably new to /vr/ and an idiot, the reality is that Power Stone threads never last for too long, so the only way to artificially extend the life of a PS thread is by starting it with some console war bullshit attacking a popular game like Smash to bait for replies.
Best we can do now is ignore OP and the console warriors and try to keep posting about Power Stone.

[Anonymous No.4387202]

>>4385381
This. Only an idiot would want to live in a world with no options. Powerstone is pretty awesome. If I had to pick it would be Smash though.

[Anonymous No.4387209]

>>4385487
It's kind of hard not to, given the OP.

>>4385372
Word to the wise, when you start a thread with a troll post that's all the thread will ever be.

[Anonymous No.4387213]

>>4387187
I think it's possible to get a nice thread without a bait OP.
The whole "I need to make troll statements in order to get replies" may make (some) sense on /v/, but on a semi slow-paced board like /vr/, it's not necessary. Every thread here gets a chance, they won't get archived in just a few hours, they can last for a whole day.

[Anonymous No.4387276]

>>4387174
>single system peasantt
False. I did own multiple consoles as a kid. Unlike you, I grew up in a middle class family. Go back to playing your Nintencuck only consoles, Nintendrone.

[Anonymous No.4387307]

>>4387276
Something doesn't add up.
If you did own Nintendo consoles as a kid, where does your irrational hatred for it and your "nintendrone" boogeymen come from?
You were a single-system peasant as a kid.

[Anonymous No.4387343]

>>4387213
It's not, because the bait is the first thing people see so it attracts a disproportionate number of hungry trolls. So even if it does attract a few interested posters willing to look past the inital bait, anything they say will get mostly shitpost replies.

But you can also bet anything that OP knows all that already and that's why he made the thread this way. Now anytime the game comes up it's troll time again.

[Anonymous No.4387367]

>>4386376
holy shit, who drew this?

[Anonymous No.4387375]

>>4387180
is the anime any good?

[Anonymous No.4387401]

>>4387375
No, just one of your going trough the motions adaptation.

[Anonymous No.4387516]

I prefer edgy Power Stone with guns, thank you very much

[Anonymous No.4387586]

>>4387307
Is this the new Nintendo fanboy tactic? Hype up Nintendo's mediocre games one minute, and then claim to have owned and like everything equally the next so that you avoid criticism and backlash? Sad.

[Anonymous No.4387703]

>>4385372
>be OP
>go to local Super Smash Bros Melee tournament
>get shine spiked
>get pillar comboed
>get chain grabbed
>get down-throw tech chased
>get rested
>get stitch faced
>get wobbled
>get kneed
>get charge shotted
>get tail spiked
>get caped
>get parried
>get shoryukened
>get gfycatted with a real life up tilt
>get caped again
>get nined
>get Kirbycided
>come home
>post on your favorite anime image board about how much you hate Smash

Lol nerd

[Anonymous No.4387729]

>>4387307
>if you're not part of Nintendo's rabid manchild audience, you must not have played their games at all
Flawless logic.

Just because you slurp Shiggy's cum and worship anything published by Ninty doesn't mean others need to.

[Anonymous No.4387731]

>>4387729
>If you don't hate Nintendo with a rabid passion, then you're a Nintendrone!
You're the master of the false dichotomy, OP.

[Anonymous No.4387739]

>>4387731
Why would you feel the need to pounce on OP for disliking Smash if it didn't trigger your fanboy insecurities?

[Anonymous No.4387743]

>>4385597
Brawl is just the Project M boot disc at this point

[Anonymous No.4387745]

>>4387703
I am very mad. I drove all the way to CSU to play in a tournament, get stuck in traffic and lost against this retarded ass sheik. Down threw tech chase and wouldn't stop shino stalling I really cannot think straight right now. I offered to MM him for more than $20. Nope. I thought I would have made it out of pools if I knew how to fucking buffer roll. But they didn't even give me the frames to do it. Bullshit, just straight up bullshit. Probably will never go to a tournament that gay ass sheiks enter ever again. This definitely ruined my day.

[Anonymous No.4387746]

>>4387739
OP is just another way to say "faggot".
>insecurities
Talk about it OP. Can't even make a thread about a game you like without mentioning the successful competitor (in your mind, anyway, not like Smash and PS are even the same kind of game)

[Anonymous No.4387757]

>>4387739
He probably regrets wasting his childhood time and energy on Nintendo's games and loathes anyone who didn't also undergo his psychological trauma of having nothing better to do than play awful nintendo rubbish.

[Anonymous No.4387762]

>>4387757
Do you get an epileptic attack every time you go on /vr/ and see the Zelda sticky? I know I do!
FUCK NINTENDO!!
Nice meme pic btw, haven't seen that one since a long while, that's some tr00 oldschool meme'ing right there.

[Anonymous No.4387769]

>>4387762
Yeah, Nintendo is a bit over-discussed on /vr/ and american gaming boards in general. On euro/asian imageboards Nintendo isn't put on such a high pedestal, most users either grew out of it or never cared about them in the first place.

[Anonymous No.4387773]

>>4387769
That's what I thought, fuck these Nintendo, only americans ever cared about them obviously. I get really angry when I enter on /vr/.

[Anonymous No.4387780]

>>4385372
>people unironically think that unbalanced garbage which is dead for a reason is good when Smash Brothers exist

[Anonymous No.4387785]

>>4387780
Read the thread, they're not even the same kind of game on basic dimensional levels, and OP was a /v/ refugee.

[Anonymous No.4387792]

>>4387745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wu0SA_NF-8

[Anonymous No.4387803]

>>4387773
Not angry, just disappointed. There's more to videogames than Just Shitendo.

[Anonymous No.4387813]

>>4387785
Yeah, OP should've posted Outfoxies instead, the superior 2D party/fighter.

[Anonymous No.4387816]

>>4387803
>not angry

[Anonymous No.4388036]

>>4385721
is there aby drawbacks to pirated versions of the dc games?

[Anonymous No.4388228]

Power Stone 1 was more a fighting game with more depth and a better combo system and grapples. The areas and the soundtrack were more charismatic than in 2 imo. Also, there was a first person view mode which was an unlockable mode
2 was a party game but they took out some of the combos 1 had and made it simpler. But that shit had so many weapons to built that made the game fun as hell.

Overall both are different experiences. PW1 a much better singleplayer experience and 2 a party game.

>>4385604
PW2 can be fun alone if you play it once in a while like you vs 3 cpu with hardest setting.

About the extra, the extra characters in both games in the psp versions are neat but since PW1 system is different the PW2 characters don't fit well in there. They are missing some vital combos and specials like characters in 1 had, Wang Tang and Garuda for example were different in both games which in 1 both were top tier characters for me in closed areas as Gunrock(because fuck you! earthquake!).

>>4385685
Unless you change the settings in the options and have the transformed characters less overpowered.

>>4385721
PSP version is a good portable version. The screensize can be fixed by changing into 4:3 or zoomed

[Anonymous No.4388402]

>>4385529
This. It's why that garbage Marvel VS Capcom series is still getting made.

[Anonymous No.4388589]

Question, has anybody here unlocked the Scrapbooks in both games?

What does it have?

[Anonymous No.4388594]

>>4388228
>The screensize can be fixed by changing into 4:3 or zoomed
I don't think that's what they mean, John. The PSP is so small you can barely see your character and the emulator doesn't support multiplayer without doing extremely convoluted lan setups.

[Anonymous No.4388596]

>>4388228
>Unless you change the settings in the options and have the transformed characters less overpowered.
I couldn't find that option. Is it unlockable?
Thing about tourneys is that they always use default settings.

[Anonymous No.4388691]

>>4385680
Lol no, even Q3 and HoMM 3 are more autistic.

[Anonymous No.4388693]

>>4385705
>"literally who" the game
You're on a wrong board, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.4388739]

>>4388594

Woman, the psp screensize for a portable is good enough. If you change it to 4:3 or Zoomed the characters will become bigger and you can se much much better and closer instead of the silly 16:9 or widescreen where characters seem like ants.

>>4388596
Pause the game and there is an option for screensize or camera, whatever the name is.

[Anonymous No.4388743]

>>4388596

Fuck, i misread. In the options there is an option for %s of damage while transformed and number of stones. I don't remember if you need to press a specific button to change to another menu(like a 2ndpage) or press either left or right.

[Anonymous No.4388745]

>>4385396
>the world would be such a better place if people wouldn't be allowed an opinion, so they couldn't blame themself and the whole humanity...

[Anonymous No.4388747]

>>4385406
powerstone1 and 2 work perfectly fine on emulator

[Anonymous No.4388749]

[Anonymous No.4388751]

[Anonymous No.4389546]

I hated Power Stone 2

[Anonymous No.4390080]

>>4387516
>Not having both Spawn & Power Stone
I'm glad I own both games.

[Anonymous No.4390134]

>>4385545
>falling in the water makes you lose your item

It's always something.

[Anonymous No.4390224]

>>4388751
Aw, how come? I was disappointed there were no individual endings, and I wish they'd done more with 'castle in the sky' setting, but it's an amazing party game, especially because of it being a relatively overlooked franchise...

[Anonymous No.4390347]

>>4390224
Capcom really dropped the ball on this, MVC2 at least had an excuse, it had 56 characters, almost all of em re-used, but here, why not gave us Individual endings?