/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4374794]

Is Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 still the best Mortal Kombat game?

[Anonymous No.4374795]

>>4374794
Not with that AI.

MK9 is so much better, but it's not retro.

[Anonymous No.4374806]

MK is all about atmosphere, and MKII nailed that like no other MK game ever did again.
Gameplay wise they're all meh, wachin.

[Anonymous No.4374830]

>>4374794
MK Trilogy is better, since it lets you play as one of the four main bosses.

[Anonymous No.4374839]

>>4374795
MKX is the best if you really want to be honest. 9 had too much stiffness and hit detection issues.

[Anonymous No.4374850]

>>4374839
Not him, but MKX is too SJW friendly. The boobs on the female characters are much smaller than they were on MK9. Plus they had a feminazi/Miley Cyrus-like character be the hero of MKX. Which is why MKX is trash. I would much rather play MK4 than MKX.

[Anonymous No.4374872]

>>4374850
If you're playing the game exclusively for tits you picked the wrong series. DOA is what you want.

[Anonymous No.4374881]

>>4374850
This could be bait it is an accurate reflection of someone's opinion. UMK3 still has the hottest female characters

[Anonymous No.4374885]

>>4374830
This nigga fucking knows

[Anonymous No.4374921]

What's wrong with MK4?
I like how fast it is.

[Anonymous No.4374924]

>>4374921
I like MK4 too. Mainly because the AI isn't automatically set to "rape" for once.

[Anonymous No.4374926]

>>4374872
I do play DOA. I have a collection of those games already, a few of them modded/patched to my liking. I just happen to like Mortal Kombat for the fatalies, blood & gore.

>>4374881
It's not bait. I just hate how SJW's are fucking up gaming. Hell they even made the boobs even smaller in Injustice 2. But I agree that UMK3 does have the hottest female characters.

[Anonymous No.4374931]

>>4374881
MK9 Jade > UMK3 Jade

[Anonymous No.4374953]

>>4374921
MK4 just doesn't look that great, compared to it's Dreamcast counterpart(Mortal Kombat Gold).

[Anonymous No.4374954]

>>4374924
More like everything is set to "MAXIMUM RAPE"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-e6zY27-Ik

This game is too fast to the point where it's hilarious

[Anonymous No.4374972]

>>4374921
I remember when MK4 came out on the PC and most of us kids were huge UMK3 fans and we thought it was the shit. It's 3D, OMG it's 3D, you can move the camera around and even the blood is 3D, you can see it flying in all directions, holy shit.

The game is quite bad looking back though. All of the animations were hand made and looked pretty ridiculous in comparison to the later games that used mo-cap. And the early 3D graphics were quite horrid to be honest, especially in a series that's so heavy on ultra-realistic gore. MK4 used segmented models with lots of z-fighting.

The actual arcade version of MK4 (incidentally the last arcade MK game) had better models which were later re-used for MK Gold on the Dreamcast which was a huge upgrade and they also added back all the fan popular characters such as Kitana, Baraka, the cyborgs etc, but still nothing special compared to the other games in the series.

[Anonymous No.4374980]

>>4374794
I think so. MK2 was too slow for my taste, having the run mechanic made the combat more fun to play with friends imo.

Also Kabal is the shit.

[Anonymous No.4375073]

>>4374972
It's funny how MK4 CG cutscenes tried to improve the quality but the realtime N64 and arcade endings were still comfier and funnier

[Anonymous No.4375115]

>>4374850
>>4374926
You can take your boogeyman back to tumblr with you. MKX and I2 had an overall redesigned aesthetic to look more realistic instead of more cartoony. The women's breasts are normally sized and fit their body shape better. Look at MK9 and they are literally just two orbs pasted onto the center of the chest and look completely fake. In MKX Kitana's are big enough they're squeezing out the top of her top. It's perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.4375130]

>>4375115
Yeah, I much prefer realistic breasts instead of the huge as fuck 80's porn star fake boobs. The girls in MK1, 2 and 3 also had smaller breasts (because they were real people digitized into sprites), so no idea where this SJW conspiracy comes from.

[Anonymous No.4375134]

>>4374850
>feminazi/Miley Cyrus-like character
mannnnnn, why does stupid shit always worm it's way into MY stupid shit? when's mk11 coming out?

[Anonymous No.4375142]

>>4375134
There should be an announcement at the next E3

[rien No.4375178]

>>4374850

how the fuck is Cassie Cage a feminazi/SJW-type character? she wears a skin-tight bodysuit and I don't remember her saying anything particularly feminist

[Anonymous No.4375308]

>>4375178
She has a lesbian haircut

[Anonymous No.4375336]

>>4375130
Developer said it.
But I prefer too the more realistic look, they still look like super models, but with less fake tits

[Anonymous No.4375342]

>>4374850
On a control basis, MKX is the worst in the series. Dumbing down the characters into 3 fighting styles per and further limiting their move sets is annoying as fuck and really only made the game easier for normies to get into. MK9 is better in that aspect, even with goofy hit-detection issues.

>>4374794
I'd say MK3 is better than UMK3. UMK3 had a better roster, sure, but how many of those were just pallette swaps with an extra move? Not really worth it.

[Anonymous No.4375354]

>>4375115
Not to mention the bodies for the girls in MK9 are men's bodies with boobs put on them.

[Anonymous No.4375428]

>>4375336
Provide an exact quote please then because all I remember is Boon saying they were making them look more realistic as opposed to being downscaled men's models like >>4375354 said.

[Anonymous No.4375441]

>>4374794
2 was better out of the arcade games.

X(L) is the best of the whole series though.

[Anonymous No.4375443]

>>4374830
Is Goro in Trilogy?

[Anonymous No.4375469]

>tfw I fell for the MK meme back in the day and bought Trilogy for both N64 and Playstation
I considered MK one of my favorite series as a kid, and Trilogy seemed like a dream come true. I didn't love MK3 or Ultimate more than II, but I liked these 2 as well and owned multiple versions for them as well, on SNES and Genesis, even had Game Boy MKII, also played them on arcades a lot.
You could say I was a fanboy. I always knew deep down that Street Fighter and KOF were the better fighting games, but they had no blood or fatalities, dude.
I digress, I first got Trilogy on N64, I believe at first it was supposed to be a N64 exclusive, or so I remember reading on magazines, so whatever, I bought it right when it came out and at first I was in heaven. Arcade-level graphics and sound, and the best of all, it had my old favorite characters and stages from MK1 and II, mixed together with UMK3, plus all the characters you could ever want. It was like one of those ridiculous mockups of MK rosters with hidden characters like Kano in MK2 or goofy ones like Clinton or whatever that magazines published, but this was the real deal, you could play as any character even bosses.
But eh... there was something off about it. I played the PS version later and it was actually better than the N64 version (I think a couple more stages and music tracks), but the drawback was loading times. Anyway, even with more content, it still felt off. I thought that maybe I had become too spoiled on MK (probably true, too), and I felt guilty for not enjoying MK Trilogy which was pretty much the perfect game.
Later on, I read on the internet that it's not that unpopular to not like Trilogy, it seems it does have its fair of shitty programming, which may explain why it felt off to me. I'm aware MK's gameplay isn't the best, but I felt Trilogy played worse than 2/U3.
Anyway I still forced myself to like MK, went to see the second movie, played MK4 on the arcades and then my interest faded out.

[rien No.4375484]

>>4375308

wow ok

[Anonymous No.4375510]

>>4375443
Yes, he's got a few extra moves even.

[Anonymous No.4376045]

>>4375443
Of course.

>>4375469
Had you tried the Saturn version of MK Trilogy?

[Anonymous No.4376047]

>>4376045
Never played the Saturn version.

[Anonymous No.4376048]

I'm not even sure that Mortal Kombat was really ever good to begin with.

[Anonymous No.4376147]

Anyone know where I can get umk3 arcade sticks that isn't custom made and 300$ plus? I was going to get one from AIAB (arcade in a box) but the place closed down around 2009.

[Anonymous No.4376439]

>>4375510
>>4376045
Shit, I gotta play Trilogy then. Goro is the fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.4376615]

>>4374794
it never was, 1 and 2 were both better

1 for aesthetics and 2 for game play
>>4374806
>MK is all about atmosphere, and MKII nailed that like no other MK game
as good as it was, 1 had the best atmosphere of any fighting game all-time

3's atmosphere was a mess

[Anonymous No.4376619]

>>4374954
>YERR MAAHDD

[Anonymous No.4376560]

>>4375342
MKX splitting up the characters into variations was the opposite of casual friendly. You can see it in how it was received among casual fans, too.

[Anonymous No.4376562]

>>4376048
True, but it does have its charm.

[Anonymous No.4376563]

>>4374794
mega unpopular opinion, but I fucking LOVED MK Deception. If it was a bit more refined and had special canecling out of strings, I think it would be a bit more honored. Maybe.

[Anonymous No.4376686]

>>4374794
UMK3 is better than Trilogy.
MKII is better than UMK3.
Trilogy is better than MK3

[Anonymous No.4376694]

>>4376615
3's atmosphere consisted of

>a bank
>a bank's roof
>a street
>a subway
>another street
>a stone room
>a wood room

And don't forget UMK3 which added
>another street, this time near water

[Anonymous No.4376734]

>>4376686
Top Tier:
MK1

High Tier:
MK2

Mid Tier:
Trilogy

Low Tier:
MKU3

Shit Tier:
MK3

[Anonymous No.4376738]

I like MK4 because if you pick Tanya you can do her drill kick over and over and slaughter the AI. It's the only MK I one cc'd on hardest and on the tallest tower.

[Anonymous No.4376895]

>>4376738
Quan Chi's moves are also very spammable.

IIRC, on an easier difficulty you could just run up and do the generic neck break move with any character and you'll still win.

Also, you can use cheat codes to play as Goro and Noob Saibot who has a cool scythe.

[Anonymous No.4377394]

>>4376047
You should try it sometime.

>>4376439
Indeed.

[Anonymous No.4379269]

PATRICIAN RANKING COMIN' THRU

GAMEPLAY:

MK9 > UMK3 > MK10 > MK2 > MK3 > MKGOLD > MK4 > MK1 > MKD > MKDA > MKA

AESTHETICS/ATMOSPHERE:

MK1 > MK2 > MK4 > MK GOLD > MK10 > UMK3 > MK3 > MKDA > MK 9 > MKD > MKA

[Anonymous No.4379290]

>>4379269
Gold is way more unbalanced and glitchier than MK4

[Anonymous No.4379370]

>>4374921
Look at all the other 3D fighters that were out at the time and you'll understand why it was laughed at by most people.

[Anonymous No.4379405]

>>4375342
how does that make MK3 better?

[Anonymous No.4379745]

Everything with Stryker is good.

[Anonymous No.4379757]

>>4374830
>MK Trilogy
>Playing as Shang Tsung
Loading all the time, in the middle of the rounds. What an amazing idea! Who in their right mind wouldn't enjoy this?

[Anonymous No.4379912]

>>4376560
>Each character typically had a decent amount of moves to use
>Combos and specials
>Go full on genius and decide to split them into 3 separate characters to force players into a play-style instead, calling it a 'meta-gaming experience'
>Each of these 3 characters is roughly the same with a different move-set
>Limits the good players from the previous franchise who could switch things up.

[Anonymous No.4379914]

>>4374794
Who /shaolinmonks/ here? The game is a 9/10 on coop (multalitys, exclusive areas, unlock characters faster, share a huge HP bar so both players need to rely on each other and play correctly) but single player becomes 7/10

[Anonymous No.4379930]

>>4379269
>Deadly Alliance, Deception, and Armageddon that low
Those games did plenty wrong gameplay wise but the aesthetics and atmosphere were great. Best character design in the series that brought the series back to its roots in a great way, lots of really good world building.

I don't see how someone who considers MK1 the aesthetic pinnacle of the series could consider the cheap spandex superhero stuff of MK3 and MK4 better than the dark Asian influences of the 3D era.

[Anonymous No.4379960]

>>4379757

Somebody playing on the N64 I guess.

[Anonymous No.4379965]

>>4379757
Thats why u play it on N64

[Anonymous No.4379991]

>>4379960
>>4379965
>The N64 port lacks Goro and Kintaro; the classic versions of Jax, Kung Lao, Kano, and Raiden; as well as the unmasked Sub-Zero (however, the masked Sub-Zero can perform both Sub-Zeros' special moves). Chameleon is replaced with the secret character Khameleon, a grey female ninja that randomly switches between Kitana, Mileena and Jade.

Nah, just play the PC version, it's exactly the same as the PSX version but has no loading times, so Shang Tsung can do his morphs instantly, as he is supposed to.

Just make sure to install the patch to get it working on a modern version of Windows. Google "Mortal Kombat Trilogy XP through 10 Update", The word filter doesn't let me post the link for some reason.

[Anonymous No.4380095]

>>4379930
DA and MKD had amazing stages.

[Anonymous No.4380115]

>>4379269
MKSM > everything else

[Anonymous No.4380183]

I find funny that the n64 version of trilogy is the standard for tourney play.

[Anonymous No.4380219]

>>4379757
>complaining about loading times
>1 or 2 seconds of it
>Not playing it on a PS2 or PS3
>Not running it on an emulator
You must be underage.

>>4379991
>PC version
Nah I like using my Game Shark, doing all sorts of neat tricks with MK Trilogy.

[Anonymous No.4380230]

>>4380219
>I like using my Game Shark

Then you might find a lot of fun in using Cheat Engine.

[Anonymous No.4380645]

>>4379930

i did actually consider that quite a bit when making that ranking, however those 3 games just ended up feeling so "goofy" and with lack of any real memorable music or arenas that i couldn't justify putting them any higher. i do recognize that they made great strides in trying to introduce more original characters and ideas into the franchise, some of which were actually quite good.

however i disagree with you on equating MK4 to MK3 in any way. i think any of the spandex shit that remained in MK4 was purely a concession to diehard fans. in my opinion, MK4 was one of the best, darkest, and atmosphere heavy games in the series with a great plot and setting. the perfect mix of originality and classic characters, with none of the sillyness that possessed certain games in the series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f18It0xfEMc

[Anonymous No.4381515]

YES

[Anonymous No.4381525]

N64 mk trilogy is better.

[Anonymous No.4381528]

>>4379991
Khameleon was one of my early waifus.

[Anonymous No.4381970]

>>4381528
You're one of my early waifus.

[Anonymous No.4382003]

>>4381970
Awwwwww

[Anonymous No.4382125]

>>4375469
Funny because the MKT scene uses the N64 version, because combos and loop would permanently break the PS1 disc.

[Anonymous No.4382129]

>>4382125
>because combos and loop would permanently break the PS1 disc.
What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.4382154]

>all that N64 shilling

Why would I want to play MKT without Goro and the other MK1 characters? The N64 version is easily the worst port.

[Anonymous No.4382827]

>>4376734
almost, just swap Trilogy with UMK3. mostly for balancing reasons.

[Anonymous No.4382834]

>>4379269
at first, the thumbnail looked like the opening video to Bloody Roar 2 on PS1.