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>> No.4371587

I'm not a fan but people seem to like it

>> No.4371590

It's one of my favorite games but it's not like I'm blind to what a flawed clusterfuck it can be

>> No.4371594

I think it's a chore of a game, but I'm generally intolerant of collectathons in general.

>> No.4371598

Took a huge graphical and playability hit from its SNES predecessors.

>> No.4371601

>>4371584
Let me guess. Some E-celeb posted a video about it today.
Great how those morons post a video exposing their own lack of knowledge and unfunny 'lol random guize!' humour and some fuckwad just happens to post a thread on the same day.

>> No.4371603

>>4371601
No I just randomly thought up the game. I remembered the game being tedious for me because of the collectables being specific for certain characters.

>> No.4371607

>>4371603
Well, well, look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QtK0MB_PDE

Heavy E-Celeb shilling video posted in the last 24 hours and ho-de-hum here you come 'just happening' to make a thread about that very game?

You pieces of shit are what is ruining collecting. One E-celeb whispers the name of a game and here you all are fishing for the value of carts, sniffing about for what you can get for them or flip them for. Just fuck off.

>> No.4371609

>>4371607
No I literally just thought up the game lol

>> No.4371610

>>4371607
What the fuck are you talking about, I never heard of that video before.

>> No.4371612

>>4371607
>one guy making a video suddenly makes him an eceleb

>> No.4371614

>>4371607
Never heard of Summoning Salt before

>> No.4371615

>>4371609
>>4371610
>>4371612

You were exposed. Fuck off.

>> No.4371616

It's definitely the weakest Donkey.

DKC2 > DKCTF > DKC > DKCR > DKC3 > DK64

>> No.4371617
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>>4371615

>> No.4371627
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>>4371616
I do love DK64 but this ranking list is pretty much spot on desu

>> No.4371659

>>4371584
Yes. Collecting items for the sake of collecting items isn't fun. It;'s compounded because everything is tied to characters, so you have to backtrack an absolute shitload.

>> No.4371690

>>4371616
I had to google what DKCTF was, my disgust cannot be contained with how retarded you are.

DK64 is pretty much everything wrong with N64 Mario 64 wannabes. It's creepy, slow paced and it's levels don't have any flow to them. But it's not that abortion of a game at least.

>> No.4371693

>>4371584
The whole series suck, except for racing game.

>> No.4371706

>>4371607
He does not review the game in this video or say it's shit, rather praise it.
There were such a movement few months before though, because of Yooka-Loolie release.

>> No.4371710

>>4371706
I didn't watch the video so I don't know what he said. That said there is already a second thread posted. I anticipate more.

Also, don't watch the video, I only posted it for evidence purposes not to give that bastard hits.

>> No.4371717
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4371717

One of my Favorite games, the massive amount of collectibles and the personality of the game is something I love.
Also, being broken as fuck makes it more enjoyable for me.

>> No.4371726 [DELETED] 

>>4371717
t. attention whore speedrunner follow me on twitter subscribe on twitch pay me on patreon

>> No.4371729

>>4371726
but he didn't say anything about speedrunning anon, don't be retarded

>> No.4371730

>>4371729
A game being broken is more enjoyable for him. Odds are he's a speedrunner. If he's not, whatever, but 90% chance i'm correct. I'll take it.

>> No.4371731

>>4371726
the fuck is your problem

>> No.4371734

>>4371730
I'm not, I just like seeing exploits/skips in games

>> No.4371738

>>4371734
Likely support speedrunners then. They are scum and have no respect. They do 'tricks' and hawk about how retarded the programmers are for making a broken game. Or else when there are not tricks they berate programmers for not adding things for the 'speedrunning community' to find. They're as good as wet offal and so are you.

>> No.4371748

>>4371738
did a speedrunner kill your dog or something? sure a lot of them are probably on the spectrum but are the types of annoying assholes you describe really that common?

>> No.4371753

>>4371748
100% that I have seen.
The whole pursuit attracts subnormals it seems. They are wrecking all enjoyment of games and causing the likes of >>4371734 to devalue his own hobby by championing what breaks games instead of what makes them.

>> No.4371757

>>4371690
>I had to google what DKCTF was, my disgust cannot be contained with how retarded you are.
Not a fan of the Retro DK games or something?

>> No.4371759

>>4371748
Speed runners are pure cancer on 2 fronts.

They don't care about games. They care about records. Imagine spending hours of your life just replaying the same game every day so you can do it 1 second faster. Then when you do you feel like you achieved something. So for 2 days you feel good about yourself... then it's back to the grind. You never get any real skills, no real talent, no real achievements but you get the cummies. How fucked in the head do you think that person is?

Then add social media and the internet. Being a high tier speedrunner is like having big tits on instagram. When you walk into a room everyone lookes, everyone donates to you just because you're playing a video game. 10,000 people turn out to watch you play and companies constantly offer you free shit because you have some followers. That builds an ego, you think you're hot shit..

You basically have a community of complete fuck ups with huge egos for playing games.

Consider Mario Odyessy's release. Day 1 there were speedruns of it. People finished the game then immediately started to speedrun it. There was no appreciation for a good game. There was no time to let it settle and see how you felt about it in the morning. It was an immediate OH SHIT I NEED THE RECORD! I WANT THE FAME! GO GO GO GO GO GO GO! Like a fat woman buying Twinkies on black Friday.

The older days of speed running where it was just bros seeing how fast they could finish Doom levels are gone. Now it's pure cancer and only growing as an industry. It's E sports where the only person you have to compete with is another loser who remembers Crash bandicoot had a GBA game

>> No.4371763

>>4371584
Wanted so much to like it but gave up at the second world as the sheer extent of the dull switcheroo back-track-a-thon became apparent. Thought the criticisms must've been overblown. They weren't.

Loved Dkc 1,2,3, returns, tropical freeze, even land 1,2,3 and this game just lacked all the flow that made those games fun.

>> No.4371764

>>4371757
>Tropical freeze
>Retro

Neck yourself.

>> No.4371765

>>4371764
Retro Studios, you fucking tard

>> No.4371767

>>4371765
>Modern gaming
>On a retro board

Neck yourself.

>> No.4371770

>>4371738
I don't give a shit about speedruns, I just like seeing game exploits/skips.

>> No.4371773

>>4371759
well damn. my idea of a speedrun is just doing a game quick for fun but i didn't know it had morphed into e-celeb tier wankery

>> No.4371791

>>4371607
Are shills now using reverse psychology? Anyone actually complaining about e-celebs wouldnt actually link us to their videos.

>> No.4371794
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I like it better than dkc3.

For a collectathon its below banjo tooie/kazooie but I love it all the same. Fun bosses, good much and nice art.

>> No.4371821

I like it but it has problems and don't blame people for not liking it.

I'd play a romhack that removes the character restrictions of collectables.

>> No.4371825

>>4371821
That would be awesome, but then everyone would pick Diddy and completely ignore the other kongs specially Clunky

>> No.4371827

>>4371726
You're either a speedrunner on twitch with subs or a youtuber with a patreon, not both of them cause that would be overkill.
If you're going to be mad then at least get your facts straight.

>> No.4371832

>>4371827
Are you fucking stupid? Twitch auto uploads vods to Youtube. Why not do both?

>> No.4371837

>>4371759
This.

There is also the bitter attitude from all involved. Whenever anyone who isn't a known member of the speedrunning community achieves anything there is a scramble of doubt and accusations that follows and a dubious 'verification' process designed to stop precious records from falling away from one of 'the boys'.

>> No.4371845

>>4371837
>Hey bro, we don't run any% any more we run glitchless.
>But you're clearly using glitches to clip through that wall
>NO BRO! NO MAJOR GLITCHES!
>But that's not glitchless
>I'M NOT SKIPPING THE ENTIRE GAME SO IT'S GLITCHLESS

>> No.4371848

>>4371601
>>4371607
Posts like this should be grounds for a permaban, and I'm generally anti-moderation

>hurr look at me I'm detective dipshit using my powers of deduction to sniff out dastardly crypto e-celeb watchers!

Wow, thanks for the assistance officer! Where would we be without your stupid fucking preemptive complaining?

>> No.4371849

>>4371848
Maybe we'd like a community full of people passionate about retro gaming and now people just following e celeb recommendations? Or would you like it to be like the NES where no one cares unless nintendo made it?

Having a barrier to entry and a demand for investment is the only way to keep a hobby healthy. If you let any idiot in then soon you will be an idiot swarm

>> No.4371851

The kongs are niggers

>> No.4371854

>enter DK64 thread
>is just full of e-celeb talk and someone with a moral crusade against speedrunning

I just want a good DK64 thread for once

>> No.4371864

>>4371854
Well go fuck yourself.
Or wait until some e-celeb hasn't posted a giant DK64-themed patreon advert.

>> No.4371869

>>4371864
I'm gonna subscribe to his patreon just to piss you off, you fucking faggot.

>> No.4371879

>>4371864
>search youtube to make sure no one has uploaded a video of the specific game i want to make a thread of on /vr/
>post the thread because the coast looks clear, can't wait to discuss this game i really enjoy
>just 20 minutes after posting the thread sasukexsephiroth99 uploads a video of this game
fucking e celeb dick suckers

>> No.4371880

>>4371869
I'm glad you're funnelling money into a void instead of spending it in my hobby.

>> No.4371898

>>4371880
I'm the top supporter this month, you asshole. How do you like that? I've also subscribed to his youtube and twitch.

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Paranoia: the thread
This is /v/-tier levels of autism

>> No.4371912

DK 64 is my favorite DK game

Others are boring to me, platformers with monotonal stage (always the jungle), I test them all and didn't finish any, and not because of difficulty. Just boring stuff.

DK 64 kept me awake, stages were fun, not as much as B&K, but still fun

>> No.4371935

>>4371912
>Game famous for it's varied levels is always the jungle

Yea, love that fair ground jungle, the swamp jungle, the pirate ship jungle and the mine kart jungle.

>> No.4371937

>>4371935
Tropical island pile of shit whatever

>> No.4371938

>>4371935

I also liked the underwater jungle, the toxic industrialized manufacturing plant jungle, the frozen mountain jungle, and the giant beehive jungle

>> No.4371949

>>4371938
Lets not forget the thorn jungle. That one was epic

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>>4371938
>the frozen mountain jungle

>> No.4372149

>>4371607
That was a pretty neat video. Left him a like and subscribed :)

>> No.4372328

>>4371598
I agree. I can't believe that DK64 looked worse than the SNES games.

I know it's stupid to expect an N64 game to look like the prerendered artwork, but god damn this is Donkey Kong, the king of 3D CGI graphics in the 90s, and it even came with and required the EXPANSION PAK~~!! so how could it look THIS shitty?

I also think the guns and grenades gameplay was really shitty and took away from what make Donkey Kong cool

>> No.4372334

>>4371612
World Record Progression is a pretty well known channel dude

>> No.4372336

>>4371710
Dude all that guy does is go over the history of the DK64 world record. His videos are actually great, fuck off

>> No.4372337

DK64 failed as a Donkey Kong Country successor and as a collectathon. I will say it's marginally more enjoyable than Banjo-Tooie but only because the backtracking is slightly less painful, not because it isn't painful at all.

>>4371759
A+

>> No.4372351

>>4372334
Literally fucking who? You anti-e-celeb inquisitors know more about this fucking shit than non-autistics do. Are you like those 00's anti-gay Republicans who got caught sucking dicks in bathhouse restrooms except instead you watch a bunch of e-celeb videos on Youtube before shitting up 4chan with how much you hate them and anyone who watches them?

>> No.4372405

>>4371584
The first two levels are a lot of fun. But it gradually starts wearing out its welcome and by the time I get to Fungi Forest I'm sick of it.

>> No.4372416

>>4372328
The DKCs were finest 2d/3d art developped by Rare, ahead of its time, but with a couple of years of SNES existence. It was originally for a boxer game, until Rare & Nintendo meets about that great animation. Real 3D was an entire new kind of things and delays were shorten. You know how 3d gradually evolved since, for fucking years.

>> No.4372445

>>4371584
no. Tedious, but still straightforward. And you only need 50% of the items.

it's bloated, but not confusing the same way Tooie is

>> No.4372663

>>4372445
So you dont have to play each level with every monkey? Might play it then

>> No.4372750

>>4371717
Based.

I like that they put in the arcade donkey kong game.

>> No.4372787

DK64 has amazing graphics man
anyone saying otherwise is probably on an emulator

>> No.4373505

>>4371584
I enjoyed it as a kid and maybe replayed it thrice. Also loved the bosses, the multiplayer and the challenge of the arcade games.

I would probably never beat it to completion nowadays, but whenever I get the itch to revisit it, I still enjoy it until I just lose interest and play something else.

Overall I can understand the hate it gets, but I can't help but feel that most people are just bandwagoning.

>> No.4373896

>>4371759
You don't need to give a single fuck about e-celebs (if you can even call them that) to enjoy speedruns.

>They don't care about games
This is extremely retarded
No one would play an game over and over again and not care about videogames at the same time.

Speedrunning has a competitive scenario. The main goal of competitive scenarios is to win.
If you want to speedrun with your drunk brogamers with your own set of rules you can do that any time, instead of being a salty faggot that hates speedrunners just because they're """e-celebs""" and they're dedicated on what they do.

>> No.4373915

>>4371880
you just got btfo lol

>> No.4374118
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My dong expanded to feature length the first time I saw Candy Kong.
Monkey Tiddies

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If anything, it has the only home version of he DK Arcade game.

>> No.4374125

>>4372663
Not him
Only if you want to 100% it. Even my best friend and I have 100%'ed this game and we kinda decided yeah, it was fun and all, but we're done with it. Sometimes it's fun to go back and dick around in, but I'll never have the urge to want to 100% this game again. Maybe he will.

>> No.4374352

For a lot of people the collectathon style of game was probably already a tired concept by the time it came out and is especially dead now. I enjoyed it a lot when it came out and had a mostly pleasant time replaying it recently on wii u. Personally I found that the levels were pretty much laid out to minimize the need to backtrack. Different areas were intended for different kongs in the levels so you could run through as one kong, following your bananas, and keep note of where things split off for other kongs. Angry Aztec was pretty bad about this though.

The atmosphere is A+. Boss fights were terrifying and the game isn't a muddy mess of tetures.

>> No.4374354

>>4374120
It's so cool that this and Jetpac are in there. I remember being so disappointed in the various other versions of DK that I played for not having the pie factory.

>> No.4374481

>>4373896
>Brogamers

Sure as sounding like you drink a lot of soy milk my "Friend"

>> No.4374524

>>4371584
Its trash and so is N64.

>> No.4374526

The lighting effects in this game still impress me.

>> No.4374528

>>4374524
Your opinion is not interesting though.

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>>4374528

>> No.4374591

>>4371759
Almost everything about this post is garbage and that anybody could think this is a good post only shows how little they know about the speedrunning scene. An overwhelming majority of speedrunners including the high tier ones are very low on the popularity scale with many top runners struggling to maintain or even hit a hundred viewers. People choose what to run based on what they like and since many like games that other people may not care about, like it in the way they do, or even know they exist which makes it even harder for them to get noticed. Some only like certain aspects of speedrunning (routing, finding tricks, breaking the game, etc).

>Consider Mario Odyessy's release. Day 1 there were speedruns of it.
People do that for the same reason they blind race games, its fun.

>> No.4374596

>>4374591
Yea man, I'm sure it's real fucking fun to do RE7 speedruns. You know the game where you have to reset for a 20 minute intro if your wife doesn't immediately wake up when you walk over her corpse.

Real fucking fun kiddo. Don't give me none of that shit. I'm balls deep in the speed running community and it's pure cancer. The fact that you describe something as "garbage" only shows what type of things you consider quality to be.

Now go make a frame perfect post and neck yourself.

>> No.4374608

>>4371584
I really like B&K but I personally think DK64 is a mistake. They’ve turned DK childish, I didn’t liked the gameplay, I didn’t liked new Kongs, I didn’t liked the fact you have to do the same shit 5 times and they’ve killed the grandma Kong.

The worst about it is to think that this game came after DK country’s serie, one of the most beautiful platformer ever made, with also the best OST ever.
The 3D on N64 was bad in that time, and none musics were memorable in that game, I’m not even sure that the N64 could replicate the sound from snes.

Only one music is stuck in your head: the fucking DK rap... Is that possible to insult DKC even more?

The most sad thing is that DK has been already raped in France. I don’t know how but french TV got the right to make a show about those characters called DKTB, giving them voice. It was based on those awful 3D movies you have probably already saw. Most of french children of that time knew DK not by the masterpiece that was DKC but by a shitty show, raped with french culture (and when I say culture i mean shitty artists that TV force you to watch all the day). DK64 came after all this garbage and wasn’t fun and totally inferior to DKC. I consider that game as an insult that symbolized every of those TV shit i’ve saw in the past.

>> No.4374609

>>4374596
>You know the game where you have to reset for a 20 minute intro if your wife doesn't immediately wake up when you walk over her corpse.
Yes and? Many speedgames have parts that are terrible to play through. In Super Mario Sunshine you have to wait ten minutes before you even get to do anything.

>The fact that you describe something as "garbage"
Yeah a post that makes wild claims like " Being a high tier speedrunner is like having big tits on instagram." is trash.

>> No.4374614

>>4374608
Mistake= the show was called DKTV

>> No.4374617

>>4374481
Sounds like context still loses to your intense whitebread complex of entitled nonsense ideas.

>> No.4374623

>>4374614
>Sonic Boom takes place on the same island as the Donkey Kong TV show, but some unnamed apocalyptic tragedy erased the former inhabitants - turning it into a barren island of "happiness"
>much like some peoples sense of community
>Arbitrary third line because you find stability in that
>How's the wife and kids my fellow dragonball?

>> No.4374640

>>4374609
Mario Sunshine runs are not day 1 runs. We've discussing entirely different things here.

>Is trash
It just keeps going! It's almost like we're dealing with a Redditor afraid of using an offensive word

>> No.4374661

>>4374640
>Mario Sunshine runs are not day 1 runs. We've discussing entirely different things here.
The original post that set this whole thing off was talking about a like more than day 1 runs and assuming everybody does them for fame is mere projecting.

>It just keeps going! It's almost like we're dealing with a Redditor afraid of using an offensive word
Why did you even think this was a good reply? Calling you something like faggot barely means anything when 4chan has run every single offensive word you can think of into the ground.

>> No.4374689

>>4374661
>projecting

Just go back to r/speedrunning with your tranny friends. You have been judged and found wanting. Hit the shower, lift some weights, get a clue

>> No.4374705

>>4374689
>Just go back to r/speedrunning with your tranny friends.
Not an argument. Its always amusing when fucks like you try so hard to save face on an anonymous imageboard whenever you face any sort of pushback.

>> No.4374721

>>4374705
There was no pushback, there was just a guy calling everything trash and garbage. The post is entirely accurate. I absolutely cannot wait until these people get older and kill themselves for how they spent their prime years. It will be funny as fuck.

>> No.4374723

>>4371584
DK64 is great but Mario 64 is on a whole other level

>> No.4374745

>>4374721
>There was no pushback, there was just a guy calling everything trash and garbage.
One person made some claims. Another person argued against some of those claims. The person who originally made those claims made little if any attempt to produce a counter argument. Then there is you who has reading comprehension so poor all you heard was trash and garbage.

>> No.4374754

>>4374745
>20 minutes of cut scenes is fun
>I enjoy video games

Pick one.

>> No.4374772

>>4374754
What point are you trying to make? People speedrun games that have a lot more cutscenes then that. The "cutscenes" in Half Life 2 put me off from speedrunning it.

>> No.4375015

>>4371584
collectathon: the game

>> No.4375225

For all the problems it had. It had the best final battle of all the Rare N64 games

>> No.4375259

>>4375225
Kaptain K.Rool is better. Even had a reference in DK64 because Rare knew how great he was.

>> No.4375263

this thread sure was a hilarious clusterfuck of autism

>> No.4375379

Would have been 10/10 without the retarded restrictions on who can pick up what collectible.

Why the fuck would you have a trail of Lanky only bananas lead me to a room with a diddy kong coin, and a puzzle that only donkey kong can solve?

>> No.4375401

>>4375379
So you can go later on to that part as that Kong.
I mean, you aren't switching all the time whenever you see a different colored item, right?

>> No.4375417

>>4375401
That's stupid. I'd understand puzzles that only one kong can solve, but scattering smaller collectibles that only a different kong can pick up seems like creating back tracking for the sake of creating backtracking, it's not actually fun exploration if I've been there before.