Old beat-em ups and side scrolling shooters

[Anonymous No.4365752]

Never played games like Streets of rage, gunstar heroes or final fight growing up (never got the appeal and preferred "pure" platformers like Mario and Sonic).

Have these games aged well? Which are still worth playing and more importantly what is the best way to obtain them?

[Anonymous No.4365931]

>>4365752
There are objectively a lot of hidden gems, even if you don't have nostalgia goggles

[Anonymous No.4365935]

>>4365752
>aged
You're not welcomed here.

[Anonymous No.4366049]

>>4365752
SOR2, SOR remake and Capcom stuff like Final Fight, AvP Captain Commando and Battle Circuit are all good.

Konami stuff with their giant cabs were fully sick, but they were built more for mp so idk how worth it they are sitting alone in front of a computer.

>>4365931
What's good? I went looking once and got burned out playing through neogeo piles, the only one I can even remember is Sengoku 2.

[Anonymous No.4366192]

>>4366049
Violent Storm, Undercover Cops and Warriors of Fate are really good

[Anonymous No.4366395]

>>4366192
This, undercover cops is fucking top tier and a very fair 1cc for those who bother to play these games properly and build a strategy.

>>4365752
>Have these games aged well?
The arcade beatemups have aged very well because they were once seen as the cheap genre but when you get into them properly you figure out the strategies and techniques then you see how well designed they really are, problem is all the criticisms leveled at them are always from the button masher never 1cc no concern for resource plebians and that way of play completely destroys the games same as credit feeding shmups does to.

One thing i've come to see after 1ccing a few arcade bmups is how overrated sor2 really is, drawn out boring slow clunk fest pulled through by a great ost, nostalgia and giving you a million lives.

>>4366049
>What's good?
Neo geos kinda weak for bmups, mutation nation, sengoku 2 and 3 are about it.

Want a real hidden gem that's top tier? try shen jian/the gladiator on pgm hardware/mame, amazing in every regard.

>>4365752
>Which are still worth playing and more importantly what is the best way to obtain them?
Mame and alongs you aren't a credit feed pleb shitter these are all worth playing.

The punisher, cpt commando, undercover cops, shen jian, knights of the round, knights of valour 2, denjin makai 2, vendetta, maybe d.d crew for comedy value. There's tons really but this is a good start of some of the doable ones.

[Anonymous No.4366398]

>>4365752
Btw if you are here because of mike mateis capcom beatemups vid discard everything he said, he knows fucking nothing about anything and that vid is embarrassingly littered with mistrusts and shit player views.

[Anonymous No.4366412]

>>4366192
>Violent Storm
My nigga! I actually had a Violent Storm arcade (the cabinet wasn't original but the pcb was) growing up. It has since broke down and I've been postponing repairing it, but man, the memories it brings. I think I have the ost permanently burned in my mind

[Anonymous No.4366464]

>>4366395
>One thing i've come to see after 1ccing a few arcade bmups is how overrated sor2 really is, drawn out boring slow clunk fest pulled through by a great ost, nostalgia and giving you a million lives.

Have you played on Mania? I find you really need those million lives.

[Anonymous No.4366525]

>>4365752
>SOR series
Overrated dull normie-bait clone on a shit-tier console. The only reason it's still remembered is people playing it after being roped into buying the awful port of Golden Axe. That memory of playing something slightly less shit has stuck around and morphed into a false memory of it being fun. Sega could do arcade games but all of the 3 belt scrollers on the Genesis were tripe.
>Final Fight
Superior original, actually fun, actually challenging and actually lets good players be good.

[Anonymous No.4366535]

>>4366464
Yes and it was still too easy.

[Anonymous No.4366538]

>>4365752
Streets of Rage is alright but pales in comparison to Final Fight. Make sure you play Final Fight on SNES, it's the superior version.

[Anonymous No.4366578]

>>4366538
Indeed. Superior soundtrack too. Don't let Koshiro fags tell you otherwise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGyr5BTOhGA

[Anonymous No.4366612]

>>4366578
Koshiro is a fraud who stole all his music from Americans

[Anonymous No.4366732]

>>4366525
that port of golden axe has more responsive controls that the arcade

[Anonymous No.4366764]

>>4366464
Only because the games poorly designed, capcom gives you 2 lives to clear the game (4 for knights of the round if you do the rng manipulation trick) and is harder yet balanced so much better it's never unfair when you learn what you are doing.

>>4366538
In what fucking reality? the only feasible reason i can muster that would have you putting the snes port higher than the arcade is it's miles easier and you confuse this with better to appease your ego which can't 1cc the arcade version.

[Anonymous No.4366767]

>>4366525
>on a shit-tier console.
This is wrong desu, the gennys larger processor suited these games with many sprites far better than snes or most at the time, everything was leagues behind the cps board however.

[Anonymous No.4366769]

>>4366464
btw if you use hazeMD you can overclock and play mania with no slowdown or flicker, it's pretty fun.

[Anonymous No.4366798]

>>4366764
The SNES version is the preferred version by super players, clearly you don't know what you're talking about. Don't ever post on this board again.

[Anonymous No.4366839]

>>4366798
as a superplayer myself, I only accept the commodore 64 version

[Anonymous No.4366847]

>>4366839
Good taste.

[Anonymous No.4366850]

>>4365752
2D beat em ups still surpass 3D beat em ups in a lot of areas. The lack of a dodge button makes them very intense and offensive focused.


With both Konami and Capcom their best games were the later released ones.

Beat em ups are a genre where the consus of the general public is very shitty. There are for instance people that think the mediocre Konami liscended games are the best games. We didn't get all the great beat em ups and the best ones were released when arcades were dying out.

The best konami are Violent Storm and Metamorphic force.

The best capcoms are punisher,avp, and battle circuit.

By and large console beat em ups fucking sucked. System limitations reduced how many enemies could be on the screen resulting in boring levels. SoR is the only console series that can ever compare to what the arcade offers.

[Anonymous No.4366897]

>>4366767
go play with the fucking processor then
it didn't have a single good game

[Anonymous No.4366957]

>>4366850
>With both Konami and Capcom their best games were the later released ones.
Complete bollocks, cps1 was god tier whilst cps2 was ok but mostly gimmicky. The lack of dodge button is wrong to as many arcade games had dash which serve the same purpose if you're a skilled player.

>>4366897
Fuck up you pathetic man child cunting disgrace, no one cares about your fucking childish hate boner for a console over 20 years old, worthless meatskull sperg shit.


>>4366798
Wrong.
Honestly the biggest problem with beatemups is almost everybody is complete shit at them and form opinions based on stupidity, /vr/ is notorious for garbage players.

[Anonymous No.4366973]

>>4366957
Fuck off, you uneducated underage piece of shit, how dare you speak to me. Come back when you can beat Final Fight under 30 credits.

[Anonymous No.4366978]

>>4366957
Yes because dashing is the exact same thing as dodging in Bayonetta. YOU FUCKING RETARD.

[Anonymous No.4367139]

>>4365752

Games don't age. And streets of rage always has been shit.

[Anonymous No.4367205]

>>4366412
Record yourself doing the stage 3 theme by memory

[Anonymous No.4367316]

Lmao do arcadefags ever get tired of being BTFO, what a bloodbath this thread is

[Anonymous No.4367618]

>>4366957
> being this mad

[Anonymous No.4367630]

>>4366978
Who's saying it's the same? learn to fucking read cunt skull, I said it can be used to achieved the same fucking reults ie getting the fuck out of the because capcom dash works in every direction which you would know if you could play a single beatemup well which you can't because you're a thick genetically weak sack of fucking wank who fills his mother with shame.

[Anonymous No.4368175]

>>4366412
That game was hard as fuck

[Anonymous No.4368176]

>>4367630
Nice moving the goal posts you fucking piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.4368179]

>>4367630
You've just said dash is the same as dodge which is ludicrous since running does not give you ininvicibiliy frames you fucking inbred underage.
>capcom dash works in every direction
In which game? Pretty sure you can't dash upwards.

[Anonymous No.4368183]

What belt scroller has the hottest chicks

[Anonymous No.4368190]

>>4368183
Fuck off weeabo. Go back to pand if you wanna jerk off.

[Anonymous No.4368198]

By the way, hey guys how is legionnarie emulation on mame. I heard they broke the copy protection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IER6I8tJMFI

[Anonymous No.4368204]

>>4368198
>*cracked
Fix

[Anonymous No.4368495]

What beat-em-ups have the most gameplay depth and/or largest movesets? I've heard good things about the Dungeons & Dragons games, as well as Battle Circuit.

[Batowl No.4368662]

Double Dragon Arcade.

[Anonymous No.4368669]

>>4368495
Guardians Dejin Makai.

[Anonymous No.4368709]

>>4368495
Ninja Baseball Batman and Guardian Heroes have a decent amount of moves.
Armored Warriors doesn't have large movesets, but you're constantly swapping out parts and changing up your moveset as you play.

[Anonymous No.4370028]

>>4368495
God Hand.

[Anonymous No.4371624]

>>4368183
Final Fight

[Anonymous No.4371689]

>>4370028
That's not a beat-em-up. It doesn't scroll any belts.

[Anonymous No.4372896]

You need friends to really enjoy best em ups as they get real tedious alone real fast.

>Tfw no friends

[Anonymous No.4374893]

>>4371689
Belt scroll is just a perspective, it doesn't exclusively refer to beat 'em ups (although it's the most common camera style for that genre).

[Anonymous No.4374918]

>>4371624
Blaze from Streets Of Rage looks way better.

[Anonymous No.4374946]

>>4366395
Vendetta are also really good and have a new game +

i'll add Sunset Riders, not really a beat em up, but there's weapons in cadillacs and dinosaurs too

>no one said Cadillacs and dinosaurs

[Anonymous No.4374958]

>>4372896
not really, they only are tedious if you are a baby credit-feeder

[Anonymous No.4375154]

>>4374958
>they only are tedious if you have an IQ over 90
fixed

[Anonymous No.4375175]

>>4375154
And 500+ ms reaction times

[Anonymous No.4375179]

>>4375154
under 90*

[Anonymous No.4375186]

>>4375175
The same people who find whack-a-mole and flappy bird tedious, what an odd coincidence

>>4375179
Truly thinking man's games I'm sure

[Anonymous No.4375374]

>>4375186
"Tedious" is such a hollow complaint, might as well just say you don't like it because you don't like it

[Anonymous No.4375696]

>>4375186
Another clueless stupid cunt, don't talk about things you have no experience with. Getting 1ccs of arcade beatemups takes a ton of strategising, routing, memorising enemy placement and on the fly problem solving so yeah it absolutely is the thinking mans game and you'd know that if you were intelligent enough to invest the tmie and get some clears then speak from experience instead of assumption like the worthless mouth breathing spastic cunt you are. 2 players is complete shit unless with a like minded skilled player, if these games are mind numbing whack a mole to you it's literally because you have no idea how to actually play them so you experience precisely how you approach them like a moron., now fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4375703]

>>4368495
>What beat-em-ups have the most gameplay depth
most if you play for 1cc.

>>4368495
>and/or largest movesets?
denjin makai 2

[Anonymous No.4375707]

>>4368179
>In which game? Pretty sure you can't dash upwards.
captain commando so eat my fart dick sneeze.

>>4368176
>>4368179
Learn to read you poorly educated trashbags, I stated clearly "it serves the same purpose" ie to get out the fucking way, jesus fuckin christ how fucking bad at reading comprehension are you 2 mongs? sad.

[Anonymous No.4375715]

>>4375707
NO IT DOESN'T you fucking retard, dodging gives you invincibility frames if you time it right and dashing is for closing into enemies. Try playing the games you shitpost about for once, kiddo, and never post in this thread again.

[Anonymous No.4375727]

>>4375715
>and dashing is for closing into enemies.
LMFAO fuck me you are beyond dumb.

>HURRR DASHING IS FOR CLOSING IN AND CAN'T BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE EVER, HURRR DODGING HAS TO BE EXACT IN EVERY GAME TO BE VALID
You fucking AUTISTIC retard you're the one who doesn't play if you can't even figure that dashing is a useful technique. To add nearly every capcom game has useful dodging mechanics in the form of double tapping to move faster north to south. I'll guarantee i've 1 credited more of these games than your worthless cunt ass.

[Anonymous No.4375731]

>>4375727
FAGGOT I won't even reply to your petty attempts at trolling anymore. It's pretty clear you don't play games and only heard about them through youtube. Here's your final (you).

[Anonymous No.4375737]

>>4375727
I really don't think it's the same thing, dashing actually extends your hitbox all over the place while modern dodging mechanics negates your hit area completely while punishing you afterwards with a bit of a cool down animation.

[Anonymous No.4376803]

>>4365752

[Anonymous No.4378236]

>>4375731
i play and have 1ced a bunch of arcade beatemups, i don't play faggot dumbed down 3d shit like bayonetta you're right, 3d fighting is fucking wank and mostly ridiculously easy.

>>4375737
they aren't exactly the same obviously but i was trying to state that you can serve the purpose of dodging attacks using the dash functions which a fair few capcom and igs beatemups have, knights of the round also has blocking and parrying to, that other sperg just went full retard with literal interpretation and pedantic on the exact nature of mechanics.

>>4376803
needs knights of the round and shen jian desu.

[Anonymous No.4378239]

>>4376803
>run and punch
>not jab and jog
you fucked up, son