earthbound

[Anonymous No.4361895]

what was your favorite place/part of the game?

[Anonymous No.4361905]

>>4361895
Threed because I like spooks. Moonside is also great.

[Anonymous No.4361906]

>>4361895
First sanctuary spot was pretty chill.

[Anonymous No.4361918]

>>4361895
Fourside for sure, the music is top notch. my favorite part is the end, when you go through all the places you have visited, or the Gygas battle which reminds me of my own childhood trauma

[Anonymous No.4361925]

>>4361918
>Gygas battle which reminds me of my own childhood trauma

Giygas fight was arguably the most powerful part of the game.

[Anonymous No.4361932]

>>4361895
Moonside or Summers

[Anonymous No.4361939]

>>4361925
definitely brought me to tears.
the lines "it hurts" and "this isn't right" resonate with me most being molested it sounds like something I thought
that was by design, those lines are common among people, who have experienced trauma

[Anonymous No.4361942]

>>4361925
> Giygas fight was arguably the most powerful part of the game.
as it should be, considering its the final boss. M3 was really lacking in the villain and character division compared to the other two

[Anonymous No.4361950]

>>4361942
That ending of the final fight in M3 though. No one I know wasn't destroyed by it.

Clause uses PK Thunder, but the Franklin badge...

Mother 3 definitely vastly improved on inventory management.

[Anonymous No.4361952]

The patrician answer.

[Anonymous No.4361992]

>>4361950
eh, i didnt really feel for it.
i think these people explained it better in the last thread
>>4328171
>>4352951
>>4353010
>>4353034
>>4353108

also, just read through that thread, it had a lot of things about M1 and 2 vs 3 in it. it was pretty good

[Anonymous No.4361994]

>>4361950
giygas made me feel worse. claus was just kind of reprogrammed off the bat and it relied more on "its your brother" than actually fleshing him out like giygas and pokey. whereas giygas got screwed, shat on and fucked over to the point where he wasnt even himself anymore all he wanted was his mother back

[Anonymous No.4361997]

>>4361971
youre not obnoxious dude. thats a good game and its genuinely fun to discuss, just like the other games. its great to know that there are fans out there that can make stuff with as much love, care and charm in it just as much as Itoi himself can.

[Anonymous No.4362084]

best girl coming through

[Anonymous No.4362092]

>>4362084
Only girl really unless we go into npcs.

[Anonymous No.4362094]

>>4362084
only if she's with best boy

[Anonymous No.4362098]

[Anonymous No.4362104]

>>4362094
>those knees and elbows
What a vomit-inducing art style.

[Anonymous No.4362105]

>>4362104
well here's a better one

[Anonymous No.4362107]

[Anonymous No.4362110]

[Anonymous No.4362113]

[Anonymous No.4362185]

[Anonymous No.4362746]

>>4361895

The sequence where you first start playing as Jeff, through from his Boarding school in Winters to when he rescues Ness and Paula. It was great because it felt so different, what he brought to the table and his background.

And of course the leadup to Giegue. I wish we could have saved him.

>>4361939

Those lines just make it hurt worse, especially taking M1 and CogDis into account ;_;

>>4361950

I wasn't 'destroyed', but certainly chilled. Clever. The more I think about how Claus died, the more I wonder/write fanfic ideas about how Giegue might have behaved if he returned to his senses at the end of M2. If only briefly (if he even could by that point).

>>4361997

Thanks anon, I'm just wary of being overbearing and accidentally dismissing all other discussion.
I'm gonna look for your fanart tonight I think.

[Anonymous No.4362816]

[Anonymous No.4362825]

The coffee break hit me really hard in the feels and I have no idea why.

[Anonymous No.4362860]

>>4362825

It did me good as well. I think it's like an assurance that you're doing well, to not give up. But, the thing that bothers me most; who's speaking? Is it Ness? Ness's father? Just some nameless narrator?

Giegue?

Suddenly the board is in Halloween style, awesome.

[Anonymous No.4362868]

>>4362860
Nameless servant of the Goddess was how I pictured it.

It's all text, so were it the Goddess herself, I'd believe it.

[Anonymous No.4362872]

>>4362868

I keep forgetting about the Goddess, sorry anon.

Well, the dialogue seems so different to anybody else you encounter, and the moment is 'special', "outside", and though I wish it were Giegue, I think you're probably on the right track.

[Anonymous No.4362876]

>>4362872
>>4362868
I always assumed it was Itoi.

[Anonymous No.4362880]

>>4362872
I don't think it was Giegue/Giygas. I don't think he ever directly communicates with the protags until the fateful battle, at which point you see the extent of his mind's scrambility

I think he speaks directly to his minions and such, and perhaps Porky, but I feel as though he communicates by proxies and corruption etc. more than anything else. One could wonder if at some point he talked entirely through that odd organic screen on the devil machine; just using images and leaving his minions to interpret it.

[Anonymous No.4362897]

>>4362876

Well yeah I guess.

>>4362880

Yeah. I know you're right but in my heart I'm lying to myself ;_;

I think that once he began to properly lose himself trying desperately to shake off the love he had and received from his human family, that he had to use the Devil's machine to maintain some semblance of coherent discourse with his minions, or through proxies like you say. I do like your theory that maybe he could no longer even speak properly, and so had to communicate more 'abstractly' through imagery and suggestion, thought manipulation. Perhaps that is why Porky took to it so thoroughly, and even surpassed it; he was already thinking along these lines, and eventually even manipulated poor Giegue.

[Anonymous No.4362927]

>>4362897
No like, it's Itoi, the developer talking to you, the player. It's that kind of game after all.

[Anonymous No.4362932]

>>4362927
I often think the game would be better without that fourth wall breaking stuff (save for maybe entering your name for the credits, and the picture man). On top of that, maybe ditching the "name your character" stuff too. Everyone will use the canon names anyhow.

E.g. if you name Ness after yourself and then enter your name when prompted, it gets confusing.

[Anonymous No.4362937]

>>4362825
is it because your mom and dad literally never said any of those things nor was every really emotionally available or cognizant enough to even be capable of it instead of just chainsmoking and throwing beer cans at your head when you can't sleep at night and slowly creep into their room hoping they won't be an asshole tonight

[Anonymous No.4362945]

>>4362927

I know what you meant anon. I mean, I just don't particularly like that sort of fourth-wall breaking. Entering your own name is alright, and talking about 'someone watching overhead' is okay too. But having a developer mouthpiece just feels wrong. To me, anyway. I get that it's probably what it is, but anyway.

[Anonymous No.4363046]

>>4362937

[Anonymous No.4363453]

Googie.

[Anonymous No.4363462]

>>4363453
F

[Anonymous No.4363470]

>>4362927

This is how I always saw the coffee breaks. A chance to really break the 4th wall and have the game developers speak directly to the player, not the character. It really through me for a loop the first time but I really enjoyed it, its little things like that which made Earthbound so endearing.

[Anonymous No.4363471]

>>4362927
No, i just thought that was like ness's subconscious. Either that or mary

[Anonymous No.4363789]

>>4363471
My problem with this is that there's no indication that Ness is in any way related to Maria.

Only a max of 20 years (198X and 199X) could have passed. I believe the X was defined in Mother 1 original release, but then retconned to just "X". It could have been something as simple as 5-10 years, which would make Ninten too young to really be Ness's dad.

The biggest reason why Ness isn't related to Ninten is that his Mother and Father express surprise during the flashback to Ness as a baby telekineting a baby bottle.

So I'm assuming that Ness would be related via parenthood, but maybe there was a cousin of Ninten of something (unlikely). In that case, the family would surely know of their heroic Ninten and the research of his grandfather. In which case, Ness showing skill at psychic powers wouldn't be a surprise.

Were it Itoi that'd be dumb for more, as I'm more in line with
>>4362945

It really took me out of the immersion, and was arguably something that could ruin the emotions of the Giygas fight

[Anonymous No.4363804]

>>4362945
>>4362927
i dont think that is what it was. i think it was just some kind of omnipotent force watching over you. Itoi only really talks to you two times in the game and thats through the dog in the onett shop

[Anonymous No.4363810]

>>4363789
>>4363804
i think what >>4363471 says kind of makes sense. mary is closely related to giygas, so it would make sense that she would be watching over him, so perhaps at some point she realizes giygas was too far gone and needed to be put out of his misery for the good of the world, so she decided to watch over ness instead.

[Anonymous No.4363921]

[Anonymous No.4363959]

>>4362945
>>4363789
The thing though is it is a reminder that this is a fictional story.

I won't go too into as M3 isn't retro but M3's entire message is about loss and acceptance. Players will ultimately finish the game and need to move on, do things with their lives. It tells you that the game, and I suppose video games or media in general, will still be there fir us when we need it, but it says we have to accept our lives for what they are and live them regardless of the circumstances.

Earthbound is kind of like that too. In this weird moment of the absurd and surreal we are reminded that it is you, the player, that brought the heroes there. This experience has been yours just as much as it has been the heroes. We win simply because we are the player and we want to, we have the will to win against Giygas and you having made it to this point shows it.

Sorry for the babble, I don't mean to sound pretentious and hope I don't. Just some feelings I get from the endings

[Anonymous No.4364023]

here is a list of songs, because the music is the thing that sticks with me the most. I always come back too it, guess it is just autism, maybe because it reminds me of the times when I was actually happy. Ignorant, but I felt like I had true freedom. Now I know myself, and hate it
>Your Name, Please
https://youtu.be/saVZRj1qiKw
>Twoson
https://youtu.be/XHxPpm00OqM
>Happy Happy is Blue
https://youtu.be/EHOWBIQ7s-k
>You've Come Far Ness
https://youtu.be/23qEArWaLjs
>Tessie
https://youtu.be/FPXnXlVs2OE
>Andonut's Lab
https://youtu.be/GxIGpWlo8Fk
>Fourside
https://youtu.be/zoWNTcP1uqM
>Paradise Line
https://youtu.be/i3z9v3FFc9c
>Fallin' Love
https://youtu.be/nJ7glYr_Al8
>Good Friends, Bad Friends
https://youtu.be/-QcnI9EXUlI
I hope I avoided the obvious choices.
looong post is looong

[Anonymous No.4364056]

>>4363046
that is the joke yes

[Anonymous No.4364061]

>>4364023
Used to have Paula's Theme as my ringtone back in the day. The good old days

[Anonymous No.4364063]

>>4363959
yeah, thats kind of how i see it. M1 and M2 were really more of an experience for me

[Anonymous No.4364159]

Frisk enduring Asriel's final attack in the pacifist run genuinely makes me tear up every time.

[Anonymous No.4364170]

The part where I didn't play it because it's shit.

[Anonymous No.4364267]

>>4363959

I honestly hate it when this sort of thing is done in storytelling, not just in games; it's cheap and cynical, even if it's not meant to be, and if you take it on board it reduces the whole story. To me, anyway. I don't think that M3's message was about letting go, but more that 'it is the way it is', and that your part is now over. And, at risk of sounding in-denial, what if, given your second point, the whole thing is meant to be portrayed differently/even further?

Given how YOU have pretty much the ultimate role in putting Giegue to rest, perhaps the whole thing -from the references to you brought up by NPCs, to how the coffee break 'drafts' you in-, is meant more provoke the thought that you're as much a hero as they are. In fact, as you say, the only reason the heroes are successful at all is because of your guidance and power; you've grown alongside them. I don't think the whole thing is a message about how you have to 'let go', but more to hint that even as strong as Ness & co. are, they'll need outside help. Whether that's from Goddesses, the Earth or you. To a kid playing the game, that feels amazing.

Honestly, I think that if it's meant as a cynical jab to remind people that it's not real (which is entirely unnecessary), then it kinda reduces the impact of things like the ending. I mean, yeah, sure that even though it means despite that Ness will never be a strong as your will, you were still in it together, and you needed them. It doesn't say that it's all meaningless.

You're not being pretentious or babbling, I just disagree that the whole thing would be cheapened (more than it already is if you think along those lines) by the 'involvement' of the player.

Not sure I made ANY sense at all, or even argued coherently, fuck

[Anonymous No.4364617]

[Anonymous No.4364759]

>>4363959
No that makes sense. I guess it's hard to accept that though. It seemed like a blight, subjectively, but I get it. He always wanted to send a player the message, I'd suppose, but less so in Mother 1 unless memory fails me.

>>4364023
These are all good songs. The Sea of Eden and Deeper into Magicant also gets me. Lots of emotions behind the calming pulses.

>>4364159
Memes aside, one advantage Undertale had over M2/M3 is that breaking the fourth wall came more naturally, and was even a big plot element at times.

>>4364267
You made sense and I can agree. Like I said, I think it diminishes the impact, although subjectively that may or may not be shared among all players.

I think ultimately it's not needed. There are other messages of each Mother game that are all more powerful than their respective "And Thank You, the Player!". Even if you enjoy, you could admit that, even for M3 to an extent, it's not needed and without it, the games don't suffer that much. I think for M3 the post dragon ending text could stay wihtout being that weird.

A big part of Mother 1/2 was that sometimes, despite your power, there is always something insurmountable without help. Mother 2 in particular. In the Giygas fight without the prayers of the humans across the globe, Giygas would never be beaten. And without the divine intervention of the goddess, the consciousnesses of Ness et al. would be trapped in a primordial cave until whatever was keeping them alive burned out..

Mother 3 was really the only one to have approachable final bosses, although the ultimate chimera continues the motif of occasional powerlessness.

>>4364617
One of the more accurate portrayals of Giygas's form.

[Anonymous No.4364893]

>>4364759

Indeed, in the end it's all subjective. Perhaps I have an overly saccharine outlook on it all; I wanted Giegue to be saved. I wanted your involvement to mean there are higher powers at work in this world, and without just saying 'it's not real' (even though it isn't, yes it's a work of fiction, but for me having that brought up in storytelling is extremely jarring).

When you say it's 'not needed', do you mean the involvement of the player? I'm a bit confused here. If so, I share your opinion in that respect; it was only really something that enhanced M2, how even with everyone in that world working together, they needed the one more thing to make it work. That was sweet, but otherwise, especially in M3, it just renders it down a notch. To me, anyway.

This is exactly what I'm saying. That even though Ness is 'Earthbound', and Paula has the power of her prayer, Giegue is still too powerful. Even with everyone around that world, still he's too powerful. When you join in, someone who's been journeying alongside from the beginning, then it works. In M1, Giegue is unbeatable as well, but clearly holds back (IMO because he wants to spare you and bring you with him, nephew and all). The only thing that can 'beat him' (make him withdraw) is something bloodless and emotive; his mother's love.

I think that the entirety of M1 (which is brilliant, along with CogDis), and of course things like the Goddess's intervention and the prayers go to show that even though you can fight and grind up power, things like love and friendship, your will and such prove greater. This is also in M3 I think.

As for that picture, I have a wide variety of Giegue pictures (if you hadn't figured out by now!), but that is one of my favourites because of how close it is to the original sprite. Actually (can't remember if it was you said it last thread), the less-than-rigid limbs look rather Starmen; a hint maybe?

[Anonymous No.4364943]

>>4364893
To elaborate on M2 ending, I don't think the player needed to pray. I get why it was there, and it's neat the first time. But it's not the worst thing in the world, and it's a play on how you, personally, care about the chosen four, but if it was gone it wouldn't ruin much I don't think.

For Giegue, Both the chosen three and the chosen four were strong enough to survive combat with him for a bit, though. Although always defeat is inevitable. Eventually you will tire and die. I think Giegue maybe held back a bit, but I'm not sure if he was holding back against Loid and Ana though.

That's an interesting point with the starmen. I still think they are something different though, unless GIegue was a natural prodigy. In terms of hierarchy, it seems the Starmen are up there at the top.

My metric as to whether an enemy of Giygas's forces was an Alien or a robot had to with whether they knew PSI, but that being said, I think there were robots in M1 that knew PSI (and probably some in M2) so I'm not sure. I think Starmen made click whirr noises in M2, but it was one in particular, who on examination reveals he was a one-off prototype, so he might have just been really augmented..

One theory someone had was that starman couldn't move their limbs, hence why their arms were always at their side, and they teleported everywhere. But, I don't think that's the case, in Mother 1 I think one of them hops into the capsule at the zoo.

Floating capsules ala Mother 1 were supposed to be an overhead enemy icon in Mother 2, but that was stopped for some reason. I think they were gonna be in the Cave of the Past as a homage like the metal diamonds were in M3 but they ditched it for the monotonous grey shapes (a style choice).

You can notice that the geography (the top layer) of the Cave of the Past looks much like the maze part of Mt. Itoi, the sort of frayed ends on the path.

[Anonymous No.4364990]

>>4364943

Ah. It is neat for M2, and it 'works' with how they put it in. But, thinking about it, it does feel rather shoehorned. They could have easily just had the whole world praying as one again and again in unison to enhance the 'earthbound' thing, which would have probably worked better. But anyway.

With Giegue, I'm not saying they weren't strong enough to survive, on the contrary. Their journey is enough to prepare them, but they cannot actually do the deed; they either get worn down, or it's a stalemate. You're right about Lloyd and Anna though; if Giegue wants to spare and 'rescue' anyone, it'd only be Ninten given their relationship. It'd have been interesting to have a Masked Man sort of dynamic for the battle, and for him to only reluctantly attack Ninten when it becomes clear he's refusing.

Honestly, -considering CogDis-, I do not think that Giegue is of the same race as the Starmen, but it is an interesting thought. More than likely, it's just the artstyle, or that the Starmen aren't the only ones to have 'limbs' like that. They are definitely higher up on the hierarchy though.

I think that PSI, given that there are robots in M1 and 2 with it, is something that can be 'augmented' and manufactured, as well as 'learned'. Or, it could be that races unable to learn PSI naturally can have it 'built-in', hence the Starmen.

I don't think the Starmen are frozen/rigid or whatever, but they definitely prefer to teleport. Perhaps they just move slowly, and that posture seems 'intimidating'; given that and the fact they teleport, they don't need to move much. As you say though, they can still jump and walk.

That's really interesting, about the floating capsules. At least they used them in CogDis. I think however, the grey shapes work well with the atmosphere and the 'scenery', so I'm not too upset by this.

Good catch! It's a nice touch certainly.

[Anonymous No.4365319]

>>4361895
moonside

[Anonymous No.4365564]

[Anonymous No.4365583]

>>4364990
i always thought the starmen were just robots with PSI

[Anonymous No.4365608]

>>4364990
eh, i thought it was kind of cool. it showed that you too had an influence over the characters and showed that youre as much of a part in their world as you are in theirs. i guess it doesnt really matter much though, considering it was like, a few lines of dialogue

[Anonymous No.4365724]

Just the general setting. It's like japanese nostalgia for a US location that never existed. Everything is off just a bit but in a charming way.

I'm not an RPG fan, but I love the game. You can tell it was a labor of love for the programmers.

Also it doesn't follow the ye olde d&d settings.

[Anonymous No.4365817]

>>4365608

Hey, I did like it too. I just don't like the whole notion that "lol, it's not real get over it, this story is pointless and you need to move on." It feels cheap in an otherwise very smooth story. Not sure if it makes me sound dumb, but that sort of fourth-wall communication is really jarring and out of place in this sort of story. If that makes any sense.

[Anonymous No.4366302]

>>4365817
I dont think thats what they meant, i think they just wanted to recognize that you played a big of a part in this too, that its your victory too. I guess its just one of those moments where it comes down to what you like out of a story, its subjective.
>>4362105
Man, i really hope they got together. They felt perfect for eachother and the part where ness walks her home was a really sweet moment.

[Anonymous No.4366305]

Whats your favorite starman type?

[Anonymous No.4366708]

>>4366305
Starman DX was cool

[Anonymous No.4367089]

>>4366302

I know, I just don't like how that is then applied to the whole 'move on' thing. You having an in-universe role is good, having it break the fourth wall to tell you a message that you need to move on from this game is not, if that makes sense. In the end though, you are absolutely right about the subjectivity; some people think that M3 is an absolute masterpiece, whereas I personally find it's (though it is still excellent) far-inferior to M1 and 2.

[Anonymous No.4367135]

>>4367089
Ay thats alright. Im more of a 2 guy myself. One thing i like about the mother community is that, dispite having different opinions and views on the games, people can still remain civilised and discuss and show their love for the series.

[Anonymous No.4367631]

>>4366302
they probably did

[Anonymous No.4367736]

besides the Beatles what other influences did Itoi pull from to make the music

[Anonymous No.4367802]

>>4367736
pink floyd in some parts

[Anonymous No.4368148]

>>4367089
theres a lot of things i dont like about M3
its kind of detached from M2, but at the same time it relies too much on M2. if that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.4368223]

So why was Ness naked and only wearing his hat in Magicant in the Japanese version of Mother 2?

Ness must be one strong motherfucker if he can kill fucking Krakens wearing only his hat.

[Anonymous No.4368228]

>>4368223
it gets even weirder when you realize he just kind of goes up to his mom and his sister wearing nothing at all

[Anonymous No.4368231]

>>4368228
>being naked near your direct family members as a kid is weird
It's weirder when he talks to people like Pokey when he's naked. However it always struck me as sad that Ness still thought of Pokey as a friend, or someone that just wanted to be his friend.

[Anonymous No.4368238]

>>4368231
yeah, but, just kind of walking up to his sister when shes at like crotch height? thats kind of odd

[Anonymous No.4368243]

>>4368238
I thought they were around the same height? Tracy couldn't be much younger than Ness if she got a part-time job.

[Anonymous No.4368247]

>>4368243
i guess. god, im getting /gfg/ flashbacks

[Anonymous No.4368249]

>>4368223
Nudity in Buddhism symbolizes cleaning or purity. I forget what it was exactly

[Anonymous No.4368252]

>>4368249
My bad, I looked it up and it is change and exclusive to Japanese culture

[Anonymous No.4368256]

>>4368252
Guess that makes sense considering what happens in Magicant. I always just thought it meant he only really cares about his hat.

[Anonymous No.4368257]

>>4368256
>you can take my dignity, but not my hat

[Anonymous No.4368301]

>>4368252
Nudity representing innocence is a widespread thing.

[Anonymous No.4368310]

>>4368301
It represents change, but it could be innocence as well

[Anonymous No.4368379]

>>4368238
Remember Japan is a culture where bathing with your family is pretty common.

[Anonymous No.4368401]

>>4368379
Pretty sure that's common in most cultures.

[Anonymous No.4368641]

[Anonymous No.4368684]

[YerMumLel No.4369053]

The part when you go to the juke box in fourside

Also the part where you help out The Runaway Five

[Anonymous No.4369353]

>>4366302
I like how on the walk home the grateful dead valley just has the sound of running water. No music.

[Anonymous No.4369367]

>>4366305
The oft-forgotten blue starman.

[Anonymous No.4369519]

>>4366305

Ghost of Starman because they're fun to fight. Also if you've played CogDis you'll know the other reason.

>>4367135

Yeah if you're the anon from the other thread you know how I am for M1 and CogDis. On the whole, I've noticed that as well; actual fans do like all facets, and are relatively civil and positive. However, I've noticed that if you state that you like M1/2 more than 3 and give reasons why, you'll not gain much in the way of 'friendliness' in places like Starmen.net. We seem to be in the minority with regards to M3; I just don't think it was anywhere near M1 or 2, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a fantastic game and entry.

>>4368148

Likewise. It's from the little things like the more 'driven' story, to things like the 'message' of the themes. Not that they are without merit, and it's of good quality. it just didn't resonate with me like M1, 2 and CogDis did. It felt more like its own game despite having a lot of elements from the previous two entries, yes. It's complicated for sure.

not sure if I made any sense whatsoever, I need sleep

[Anonymous No.4369573]

>>4369519
tell me about CogDis

[Anonymous No.4369617]

>>4369573

Mother: Cognitive Dissonance. It's a fangame made in RPG maker. Before you think "lol it's another lame homestuck-esque shitshow", after playing through it at least ten times I can honestly say it's my favourite game. It serves as a sort of 'intermediary' between M1 and 2, and explores Giegue's (or Giygas) character extensively, along with the wider 'universe' out there. It showcases how Giegue reacts to his withdrawal following M1, and how he slowly turns into what you see in M2; throughout, you play as a group of four eventually five) different aliens in an adventure to initially try and track down the pieces of the Apple of Enlightenment.

Alongside Giegue, it explores his past, with special regards to Maria, George and his race. It also adds more characterisation to people like Porky (which is a bit of a spoiler), Buzz-Buzz (who is one of your party members), and the Starmen especially.

At risk of spoiling too much and babbling on-and-on, with a bit of extra legwork you can attain other endings (outside of the 'strictly canon' one, which do not affect M2/EB but can mean a better outcome for your party and in one ending, saving Giegue. If you want to know more, read the previous thread.

In the previous thread we talk (though it's mostly me babbling) extensively about it >>4328171 if you're interested.

[Anonymous No.4369954]

we need moar art in this thread

[Anonymous No.4370136]

what the fuck was his problem?

[Anonymous No.4370268]

>>4370136

He needed help, and good friends. Also, parents that gave a fuck about him.

Unlike most other kids whose childhood's sucked however, Porky was pretty clever and/or had a mentally breaking-down Giegue to "help" him.

[Anonymous No.4370272]

>>4369954

I have lots of Googie.

[Anonymous No.4370639]

>>4370272
dump that shit my niqqua

[Anonymous No.4370642]

>>4370268
>He needed help, and good friends.
but i thought ness was a good friend to pokey. is there something im missing?

[Anonymous No.4370659]

>>4369519
Yeah I played cogdis.
Also helping out with the sequel

[Anonymous No.4370660]

>>4370272
>you spin me right round baby right round

[Anonymous No.4370662]

>>4370659
Leak something.

[Anonymous No.4370675]

>>4370662
Have some mooks I guess.

[Anonymous No.4370680]

>>4370675
damn, thats pretty detailed

[Anonymous No.4370701]

>>4370680
The Project Lead/Sprite artist is fucking great.

[Anonymous No.4370706]

>>4370701
i can tell. shit looks pretty good

[Anonymous No.4370767]

>>4370659

A sequel to CogDis??

Holy fucking shit if you're legit you've just made my day and then some. I can't begin to tell you (although you can probably guess) how much I love CogDis, so this is like wow

>>4370675
>>4370701


Those look phenomenal. Are you on the team then? Please tell me this is legit, and don't compromise your position.

[Anonymous No.4370775]

>>4370767
yeah its a real thing.

[Anonymous No.4370792]

>>4370775

You can't begin to know how much I appreciate hearing this. Fantastic.

I won't ask when it's coming out (God knows pressure is a killer), but will it involve the old cast? (i.e. Alinivar, Niiue, etc) Or is that too much of a spoiler?

[Anonymous No.4370809]

>>4370792
They are there but how and why I cant tell because spoliers.

[Anonymous No.4370819]

>>4370809

Okay! Thanks for telling me this much. Is there a working title, or is it going to be simply 'CogDis 2'? Again, if that's too much then don't answer.

I'll just reiterate, you've made this anon very happy with this news. Is there a link to the project (like a starmen.net forum thing) or is it still under-wraps? Anyway. Thank you so much. Absolutely quality.

Larice is looking good there!

[Anonymous No.4370831]

>>4370819
honestly i think it should stay under wraps, for fear of Nintendo fucking it over

[Anonymous No.4370841]

>>4370831

Alright, that makes sense. I'll be looking forward to this eagerly, thanks again.

Personally, I don't think you have anything to fear, given CogDis has survived (thankfully). I think, given that it's been a while, and the first CogDis was always free (I don't think there's even a donation thing sadly, else I would have donated). But, caution is better with something like this. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.4370848]

>>4370819
The project has been public for at least 5 years now. Its just that all the cogdis related stuff (ayylmao and shit) are the 2nd part of the game. And due to spoilers only the first part of the game has been posted (Think of it as Disk 1 and Disk 2 where Disk 1 is Earth and Disk 2 is aliens.)

[Anonymous No.4370867]

>>4370848

Ah, that makes sense. And what you say here is interesting, given how CogDis goes; so, disks instead of the chapter format? Or is it simply that there are two distinct parts of the game? confusing myself now, I need sleep.

May I ask what the project is 'publicly' known as then, or would connecting the two here and now spoil everything?

Those screenshots look amazing, particularly with the game-over screen. Intriguing. I can't help but notice 'Regular Octopus "Earser"', instead of "eraser" though.

[Anonymous No.4370879]

>>4370867
let me just tell you there are two very Distinct parts of the game.

https://forum.starmen.net/forum/Fan/Games/Mother-Porky-s-Galactic-Strike/page/1/
Here is a link to the starman thread. (contains alot of outdated info)

[Anonymous No.4370897]

>>4370879

Very interesting. The synopsis/introduction on the page seems to diverge from what I'd come to expect of a CogDis sequel especially considering my hopes for the 'future' of the good endings in the 'first' CogDis. But, as you say it's outdated info. Despite the 'grammatical' issues of the topic author, this is a very interesting idea regardless, and with what you've revealed I'll definitely be watching this.

Thank you again. Given I'm writing a pretty extensive fan-novel post severance-ending, this has me very excited.

[Anonymous No.4370918]

>>4370897
To tell you the truth most of the public stuff is just a front so that the big plot twist in the middle of the game seems even more unexpected.

But I have to stop posting because I allready said to much.

[Anonymous No.4370945]

>>4370918

Okay, yes. Don't risk yourself or the story just because of this overeager fan. There's no chance in Hell I would miss this now.

Thanks once again for revealing as much as you did; I mean, sure CogDis is what really intrigues me given it's my favourite game, but from what you've told me it seems like this is a very thorough and engaging project overall, and I can't wait (though I will) to see more. Good luck, and thank you.

[Anonymous No.4371550]

[Anonymous No.4371671]

>>4362945
>mfw when one of playthroughs saw Adolf Hitler praying for the children...

[Anonymous No.4372009]

>>4370841
Ninty is really fucking annoying with copyright bullshit

[Anonymous No.4372131]

Is this game fun? should i buy it?

[Anonymous No.4372259]

>>4372131
Its a great game, but actual copies are expensive as fuck. I reccomend either emulating it or buying it on tge nintendo e-shop

[Anonymous No.4372262]

>>4372259
>>4372131
It emulates well. The e-shop version is also good. I would emulate it out of spite since Nintendo was so stingy with the Mother series in the past (and still is with Mother 3, though that has some more suggestive elements).

Mother 1 is not as "fun" but has a very good story. There are patches that cut down on the enemy encounter rate. I'd stay away from the 25th anniversary edition though, as it makes some controversial sprite/graphics changes.

Mother 3 is very good as well.

[Anonymous No.4372326]

>>4366708
I dont know why, but i always headcannoned that the starman DX had a voice that sounded like frank horrigan

[Anonymous No.4372410]

>>4370136
Autisim

[Anonymous No.4372520]

>>4364617
He looks like a cat

[Anonymous No.4372846]

>>4368641
F

[Anonymous No.4373183]

>>4368684
did they fug?

[Anonymous No.4373473]

compared to giygas, i felt that the masked man fell short. anyone else feel this way? it just feels much more important with giygas, like youre in way over your head, but you have to do it anyways, where as with the masked man, it just kind of felt a little bland.

[Anonymous No.4373479]

anyone got some interesting head-cannons?

[Anonymous No.4373645]

the part where you could take paula home and spend more time with her rather than taking her home. the first time i found out about that it made my day
>>4369353
that was cool too

[Anonymous No.4373675]

>>4373473
>>4373479

I'm the one that in this and the past thread has gone on an on about CogDis and Giegue; I wish we could have saved him. If I had it my way (which, really, given the alternate timelines stuff in CogDis I honestly could), Giegue would have been saved but Ness and co. would also have saved the world. Not making sense I guess.

You'll already know that I agree with you about the Masked Man, though he was still brilliant and certainly was the culmination of M3. Giegue on the other hand is a level beyond, to me anyway. Especially with M1, and how you realise that even though his soldiers beforehand are nigh-unbeatable (and he IS unbeatable), he still tries to spare Ninten. He goes easy on you because you're the only family he has left. That's what I like to believe, and I think it's pretty realistic considering.

[Anonymous No.4373681]

>>4373675
You gotta let him rest scoobs. He's had a hard life.

>>4373645
I never took her home because I thought it'd be rude and out of character for Ness

[Anonymous No.4373683]

>>4373681
>I never took her home because I thought it'd be rude and out of character for Ness
Shit always took her home immediately*

[Anonymous No.4373684]

>>4373681
how would it be out of charterer? they just wanted to spend more time together

[Anonymous No.4373689]

>>4373479
after the defeat of giygas, the starmen didnt have anything to do, so they just started wandering the earth, always lumbering around and avoiding human contact like some kind of robot Sasquatches

[Anonymous No.4373696]

>>4373479
lucas is ness's cousin

[Anonymous No.4373704]

>>4373684
Past Twoson I guess. It felt weird taking her to meet your mom.

[Anonymous No.4373721]

>>4373704
i think it was just him wanting to be with her some more

[Anonymous No.4373947]

>>4373704
i always took her up to the meteorite

[Anonymous No.4374040]

>>4372262
Its amazing to me that, dispite how much ninty screwd this series over, it still managed to be great. Itoi is one persistent guy.

[Anonymous No.4374283]

>>4373681

I know shaggy but what if I could help make it better? Turn back the clock, begin again.

That's the severance ending of CogDis and it makes me so happy.

[Anonymous No.4374560]

>>4374283
its time to let him rest, anon

[Anonymous No.4374568]

>>4374560

But I can't rest.

[Anonymous No.4374589]

>>4374568
eat some magic cake

[Anonymous No.4374935]

>>4374589

Will that help me save him?

[Anonymous No.4374971]

Can the cogdis anon please adopt a temporary trip so I don't have to scroll through walls of spoiler text in order to read the actual thread replies?

[Anonymous No.4375004]

>>4374971

Hadn't thought it was bothering people. I'll stop talking about it unless people ask.

[Anonymous No.4375286]

>>4374935
no, there is nothing you can do for him now

[Anonymous No.4375623]

[Anonymous No.4375791]

Daily Reminder that everybody who excuses shit like the 4-way movement and the default battle system in cogdis because "its engine limitations!" Is flat out wrong because Eagleland is a thing.

[Anonymous No.4375803]

>>4361895
I'd have to say the part where the Runaway Five comes into save Ness and Jeff from the Clumsy Robot.
On a different topic, I have a full list of what the BGM does in the game's debug menu.

[Anonymous No.4375906]

>>4375791
hey, nobody said it was perfect

[Anonymous No.4376097]

>>4375803
That was pretty rad. It'd be better were it a harder fight though.

So was Dalaam a dying kingdom with those paltry 4/5 houses?

[Anonymous No.4376118]

>>4361895
Moonside or Magicant since I love trippy shit.
RIP Everdred

[Anonymous No.4376150]

>>4376097
maybe there was more on the ground?

[Anonymous No.4376193]

jeffs intro was great

[Anonymous No.4376237]

>>4361895
I have nothing to contribute to the thread, but I just wanted to get something earthbound related of my chest.

I never played the game until recently, because I avoid anything that popular as hard as I can. (Yes, I admit it)

Once I played it, I liked it at first, surprisingly. It has good atmosphere (for lack of a better term), and a lot of endearing elements and charm.
Except the battle system.

I'm sorry, but I fucking hate it. And I actually actively love turn based combat, so that's not it. Its just that the system as it is on earthbound takes me out of the mood the game puts me in. Or at least that's the only way I can explain it.

So now I don't play a game that I'm interested in because I hate the combat, and I wish I'd never broken down and tried it at all...

That's my whole thing. Carry on.

[Anonymous No.4376246]

>>4376237
the battle system was admittedly where the game falls short. i love M2, but that was its weakest element. i didnt find a problem with it, but i can see how its not for everyone. i wish someone would do some kind of redo for it, just change the mechanics up a bit, or even just put M3s battle system in

[Anonymous No.4376258]

>>4376237
do you hate the game as a whole or just the combat system?

[Anonymous No.4376283]

>>4376258
Just the combat, but it's such a huge part of any RPG, that I can't bring myself to play it because of it.

It would be like falling in love with a woman only to discover that her vagina is filled with flesh eating worms. Sure, you wanna fuck her, but...

[Anonymous No.4376304]

>>4376283
eh, thats alright. i didnt mind it, but i can see how people wouldnt like it. like i said, id like to see it redone somehow

[Anonymous No.4376329]

>>4376118
Did Everdred actually die? I thought he just thought he would, but then got up and walked away.

[Anonymous No.4376343]

>>4376329
yeah, he died. you see his grave in magicant and i think the mention it in burglin park

[Anonymous No.4376612]

>>4376343
>>4376329
FFFFF
F
FFFF
F
F

[Anonymous No.4376626]

if the mother games were to be remade, how would you want them remade? what graphical style would you want them in? how would you change the combat system?

[Anonymous No.4376808]

Fourside.
walking over that bridge, into that park, and into the city.
It's like you just crossed the Lion's Gate Bridge, exited Stanley Park, and walked up to the Sylvia Hotel in Vancouver.
>the song is called Embraced by the Skyscrapers

[Anonymous No.4376918]

I dunno guys, after all the version of the game I played was the pirated one where the difficulty was drastically increased , so I failed to make any progress at all
Well, I guess my fav part was the beginning of the game where we had to talk to the dog

[Anonymous No.4377008]

>>4376918
Anti-piracy makes you fight three times as more enemies and some enemies spawn even when they're not supposed to. And everyone already knows what happens when you are about to fight the 1st phase of Giygas,

[Anonymous No.4377023]

I always find it odd that Earthbound's final boss fight is always regarded as some kind of tour de force in video game writing when it's pretty much lifted from something Stephen King is constantly getting shat on for writing.

[Anonymous No.4377096]

>>4361895
Magicant and moonside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LECyz7qtsaI

[Anonymous No.4377335]

>>4362098
>>4362107
>trying to make Jeff cool

Jeff was a weird creep who walked around in his boarding school uniform because he doesn't know how else to dress

[Anonymous No.4377343]

>>4371550
>the runaway five guys in identical suits
Fuck that noise

[Anonymous No.4377423]

>>4377023
well the difference is that EB actually did it correctly

[Anonymous No.4377465]

>>4377343
in the Japanese version they all had the same suits

[Anonymous No.4377971]

what was your favorite villain/boss?

[Anonymous No.4378129]

>>4377971
Giygas

[Anonymous No.4378130]

>>4377971
this fucker. he could be the star of his own game.

[Anonymous No.4378383]

>>4377023
The one thing I would fix about the fight is to change the background image when Giygas is very wounded. Once you see the damn baby you can't unsee it. I know they were trying to do something like a hydra with a bunch of heads or some otherwise incoherent blob of Giygas faces but I don't think it worked that well.

[Anonymous No.4378459]

>>4378383
i think that was a bit of an odd coincidence. when i first saw giygas, that what i thought it was, just him splinting off with a million different heads, but then that fucking theory came up, and i cant unsee it

[Anonymous No.4378746]

id like to imagine what would happen if porky made ness into his commander instead of claus.

[Anonymous No.4378834]

>>4378746
Lucas wouldn't stand a chance.

[Anonymous No.4378851]

>>4378834
what about claus? would he be able to do anything?

[Anonymous No.4378854]

>>4378130

>wears a yarmulke

Oy vey!

[Anonymous No.4378858]

>>4378854
i never noticed that. now we need a carpainter merchant meme

[Anonymous No.4378862]

>>4378851
Claus was weaker than Lucus right?

[Anonymous No.4378870]

>>4378862
i always thought claus was the strong one

[Anonymous No.4378891]

>>4372131
>buy

[Anonymous No.4378918]

>>4378870
Maybe when they were kids, and perhaps physically giving his chimera status, but when you factor in PSI I think Lucas is ahead, and that what usually matters in these things.

[Anonymous No.4378946]

The dinosaur place was freaky

[Anonymous No.4379020]

>>4378918
its not like it would matter i guess. would they even be able to do anything?

[Anonymous No.4379067]

Is this a general Mother thread or just Earthbound?

I've been playing the first game via Mother 1+2 the last few days and I'm liking it quite a bit, despite the insane encounter rate.
Also bought a repro of Mother 2 that uses the Maternalbound +run mod so can't wait for that to come in, then I can finally sit down and play Mother 3.
I'm aware it's not required to play these games in order, but ever since I bought repros of Mother 1+2 & 3 for the GBA, I thought it would be nice playing these games in order seeing them evolve. I've actually played Earthbound many times in the past via emulation, but because I was a dumb kid I'd either fucked up my progress by pressing the wrong key wasting hours of progress with save stating, or having my previous computers die on me, ruining my progress.
>>4377335
That's Lloyd, not Jeff.

[Anonymous No.4379090]

>>4379067
>Is this a general Mother thread or just Earthbound?
yes.
just talk about whatever you want anon

[Anonymous No.4379091]

>>4377335
anon, i...

[Anonymous No.4379101]

>>4377335
the nigga carrys around a fucking rocket launcher and makes weapons from trash. hes cool as fuck

[Anonymous No.4379136]

>ctrl+f "dungeon man"
>0 results

[Anonymous No.4379149]

>>4379136
>"i made a sign with no message on it" -Brick Road

[Anonymous No.4379152]

>>4379136
He has his perks.
Pros:
+Most damaging party member
+Can solidify enemies
Cons:
-Can't teleport with him
-Can't enter anything within Scaraba

[Anonymous No.4379162]

>>4379136
>the dungeon you just beat joins your party

[Anonymous No.4379232]

I did a thing
Sorry if it ain't good

[Anonymous No.4379240]

>>4379232
>parents dying didnt make him a pussy. only made him stronger
unlike SOMEONE we know....

[Anonymous No.4379256]

so what would have happened if buzz buzz never came around? could ness and co. still stop giygas?

[Anonymous No.4379357]

>>4379162
Then he gets stuck in a tree

[Anonymous No.4379653]

>>4379067
Just finished it, cute game but wow Mt. itoi was bad.
Got kinda stuck because I wasn't aware I was supposed to go into a bedroom to trigger an event, but that & difficulty aside, great game.
Can't wait to play Mother 2 next and finally finish the damn game.

[Anonymous No.4380013]

>>4379653
I think CogDisc anon was talking about how Mt. Itoi's difficulty could be interpreted as the gang being in over their heads. It's speculation, but there's a lot of that in the series, so I don't think it's that out there.

Also if you are high enough level with enough pp items, just have ana PK Fire/Freeze Omega based on how many enemies are there.

[Anonymous No.4380049]

>>4380013
Yeah I remember looking online on different interpretations on various game design choices, like having Ana being really weak despite getting the revive ability early on while Ninten gets it at a higher level, like around level 35 or so, I forgot, in order to get the player to "protect the girl" which is kinda cute I guess.
Also, I think I saw something where Itoi said that Mt. Itoi wasn't fully play tested for balance due to rushed development near the end, but I probably misinterpreted the quote or got fake info, whatever the case it really wasn't as bad as I made it seem, just got annoyed at the constant encounters with the tough enemies climbing the mountain only to realize I couldn't progress because I needed Lloyd in my party.

[Anonymous No.4380778]

>>4379653
if you are going to play M2, dont do it on GBA, the game boy port sucks ass. emulate that bitch.

[Anonymous No.4381549]

>>4380778
this.

[Anonymous No.4381574]

>>4380778
Admittedly, it does have a greater sounding Battle Against a Machine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5b0iuq-7nY

[Anonymous No.4381589]

>>4381574
its good, but i liked the original. (to be fair though, that vid sounded a bit low quality so it probably sounds better on the actual game)

[Anonymous No.4381849]

[Anonymous No.4382134]

>>4380778
I'm aware , besides the gba translation was never completed so I wasn't gonna bother anyway.
Ended up an snes reproduction cart that uses the Marternalbound+run mod so that's how I'm intending to play it.

[Anonymous No.4382856]

>>4382134
Nice. Whats does that mod do?

[Anonymous No.4382881]

>>4361895
Twoson.

The game just opened up and gives you the feel that you're a kid going on a grand adventure, the town is much bigger and has more things to do than Onett, yet it is still a down to earth place which makes it relatable and further nails down the feel of a kid exploring his city and having fun adventures.

[Anonymous No.4382887]

>>4362092
That elevator lady with a FAT ass is best girl.
Venus is a close second.

[Anonymous No.4382901]

>>4369617
What really pissed me off about it was the lack of diagonal movement, yet the creator's fixation with making diagonal paths, and the somewhat redundant ATB system.

[Anonymous No.4382917]

>>4372262
The best way to play Mother 1 is through the Mother 1+2 GBA compilation and applying Mato's patch.
The Mother 2 port sucks, but Mother 1 is a big improvement, since you can use the GBA's shoulder buttons to automatically check items and talk to people, and it includes the Easy Ring, which cuts down the encounter rates.

[Anonymous No.4382927]

>>4382901
Funny thing is, it's easy as hell to create diagonal movement in RPG Maker

[Anonymous No.4383125]

Is it weird if I had a dream about Giegue last night?

[Anonymous No.4383367]

>>4383125
That depends, what was it about?

[Anonymous No.4383395]

>>4382917
>improvement
>ruins the soundtrack
GBA port is fine, but Mato's translation has been hacked (within cart size limits) into the NES version too. Also the original version is not so difficult that you need an easy ring, I never understood that.

[Anonymous No.4384156]

>>4383395
The music on the port was terrible though the GBA had a shit sound chip

[Anonymous No.4384531]

>>4384156
That's what I was saying, the GBA version is bottom-tier due to the nightmarish butchering of the music.

[Anonymous No.4384601]

>>4383395
>within cart size limits
why not expand rom? seems like a number of groups porting scripts are anal about not expanding rom size

[Anonymous No.4384667]

>>4384601
I'm not sure, maybe they did for the 'Uncut' ROM hack and still didn't have enough space, maybe they didn't at all, the readme file doesn't mention it. I think they took the 25th anniversary hack with the terrible graphics and de-hacked it into what is basically the Earth Bound prototype but with the original uncensored MOTHER graphics and a crunched version of Mato's script. I've only just started playing it on and off (I've beaten the proto like 4 times), but it seems like they did a really nice job, and you gotta love the smoking crow.

[Anonymous No.4384838]

>>4383367
Well, it was really short.
>We were on a small hill overlooking an open field
>Hill had a few big trees and large rocks
>Giegue leaned back on one of those rocks and got a look of confusion on his face
>A voice from nowhere says "isn't this odd?"
>Suddenly he becomes a playable character in Super Smash Bros

[Anonymous No.4385040]

I dont know why, but threed always reminded me of harvester

[Anonymous No.4385049]

>>4384838
Giegue confirmed for smash
>>4385040
>oh you always were such a kidder, ness

[Anonymous No.4385743]

So I read that Earthbound is actually the second game in a series of games called Mother, Have the original games been translated by fans? Id like to play from the first game.

[Anonymous No.4385746]

>>4385743
the first one is on the VM, and the second one is translated by fans.

[Anonymous No.4385750]

>>4385746
VM?

[Anonymous No.4385796]

>>4385750
sorry i meant VC. as in the wii-u virtual console. its also on E-shop. although id emulate it, purely out of spite, since Nintendo screwed this series over so much

[Anonymous No.4385803]

>>4385743
be warned, if you play the first two before the third, you might find the third one a little lacking in the story and character areas. although, you might not. you should play the first two before the third though, you wont be able to tell whats going on if you dont

[Anonymous No.4385827]

>>4385796
Oh right, Well Im emulating it on VBA
>>4385803
Bit redundant, Starting with the first one anyway.

[Anonymous No.4385829]

>>4385827
oh, that makes sense. and sorry for the redundancy, im a bit tired

[Anonymous No.4386341]

Is there a direct translation of the orginal M2?

[Anonymous No.4386790]

>>4386341
Yeah,it's called EarthBound and was released in the US.

[Anonymous No.4386985]

>>4386790
I mean a direct translation

[Anonymous No.4386989]

My favorite part was turning this piece of shit off and playing Undertale instead

[Anonymous No.4386996]

>>4386985
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.4387020]

>>4386996
Rude

[Anonymous No.4387023]

>>4387020
Bix nood

[Anonymous No.4387084]

@4386989
You know, its getting kind of hard to tell weather these people are unironic or not

[Anonymous No.4387093]

>>4387084
I have over 100 hours logged in Undertale so you tell me

[Anonymous No.4387095]

>>4361895
My favorite part in almost any JRPG is that point when you're maybe 25 to 30% through the main quest and you're just beginning to get a grasp of things and realizing the epic journey you're undertaking. You're looking at the map and wondering what will fill it out, and chances are you've heard NPCs hint at some of the places you'll visit. You're just starting to gain important tools and abilities that allow you to find new secrets, and you've probably already come across plenty of mysteries you want to revisit.

So in Earthbound, that's probably sometime near Threed, when you take control of Jeff.

[Anonymous No.4387097]

>>4362094
>Earthbound shit in tumblr style
Every fucking time. I've always liked this game for how weird it is, but the fanbase is just unbearable plebs and casuals, the whole lot.

Is the cart itself still demanding stupid money?

[Anonymous No.4387101]

>>4387097
>Earthbound shit in tumblr style

So Undertale?

[Anonymous No.4387105]

>>4387097
The fanbase is one of the worst, undertale's is worse though. And yes, the cart is still expensive, but it's on 3DS, Wii U, and SNES Classic now so prices aren't as high as they once were.

[Anonymous No.4387113]

>>4387105
>Judging Undertale by its fandom
>Liking Earthbound

Nothing did my heart more good than seeing you obnoxious hipsters sperging on about it being le best game ever and better than all the other SNES RPGs than getting a taste of your own medicine when Earthbound stays popular only with basement dwellers while Undertale exploded in popularity and is still loved by kiddos who watch people play games on their iphones rather than playing games themselves.

Also Undertale is a better game objectively speaking too.

[Anonymous No.4387114]

>>4387105
>but it's on 3DS, Wii U, and SNES Classic now so prices aren't as high as they once were
That's cool. I've already played it (I emulated it after playing Smash Bros. in 1999 and wanting to see what kind of whack-ass game Ness was from). I kind of just want a cart because I'm a purist. Seems like it goes for about 150 on ebay lately, but I might hold out and see if it goes down some more.

[Anonymous No.4387119]

>>4387113
You sound painfully desperate to make it seem like your favorite cult game is more popular than some other people's favorite cult game. It's pretty pathetic.

[Anonymous No.4387120]

>>4387119
The only people who care about Earthbound these days are the slightly older Undertale fans who saw the "Ness is Sans" video and managed to sit through more than five minutes of an Earthbound let's play. Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.4387125]

>>4387120
Or, get this, people who played the game 20 years ago because they're not fucking angry underage-fags scrounging for approval and justification on a korean pottery board.

[Anonymous No.4387127]

>>4387125
Is that why Earthbound only sold 100,000 copies while 3,000,000 people bought Undertale on Steam alone and counting? Most of those 20+ year olds only played it as kids and don't even care about it anymore anyways. Stay mad.

[Anonymous No.4387135]

Lisa the Painful is better than Earthbound
and Undertale combined all things considered.

[Anonymous No.4387154]

Fourside.

[Anonymous No.4387156]

>>4387127
>hurrr, why did a game that was barely advertised toward the end of a console's lifetime, over 20 years ago not sell as much as a modern game across multiple platforms in a time where the market is exponentially bigger than it ever was?
Really makes you think. The fact that you cannot grasp that the mere evolution of the video game market could account for this alone pretty much proves you're ignorant. Also:
>MORE SALES MEANS THE GAME IS BETTER, HURR!
Did your parents not love you? Why must you search so hard for approval?

[Anonymous No.4387157]

>>4387127
>grasping at straws this hard
Neogaf is thataway freind

[Anonymous No.4387159]

>>4387157
>>4387156
Stop fucking replying to him, hes just doing this for (you)s. He did it last thread too

[Anonymous No.4387334]

>>4368231
He was right though. M3 pretty much confirms Porkey was just a tsundere.

[Anonymous No.4387341]

>>4373479
Pickey is that one npc in M3

[Anonymous No.4387460]

>>4387334
And a retard

[Anonymous No.4387485]

>>4387341
No, picky is already in M3. He's in one of the tube things

[Anonymous No.4387527]

>>4361895
>Mother 1
Magicant, always liked that weird place and i love queen Mary's castle theme.

>Mother 2
Onett and Twoson for nostalgic reasons, but my favorite part is fighting Giygas, still to this day is the only game where (you) defeat the final boss and the credits secuence gives me the feels.

>Mother 3
Chapter 4 because is the beginnings of the real adventure and the fight againts Porky.

[Anonymous No.4387714]

>M1
the very beginning, or the end.
>M2
either jeffs introduction or the entrence to fourside
>M3
couldn't really find anything that hit me here like the other two, but the part where you find ness's yoyo was cool i guess

[Anonymous No.4388380]

>>4387527
yeah, the part where ness walks Paula home was great too

[Anonymous No.4388489]

>>4387095
Jeff and poo's introductions were great. EB had really good charecters

[Anonymous No.4388827]

>>4375791
Whats the game in the gif?

[Anonymous No.4389416]

>>4387135
Watched an LP of this and it was actually pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.4389898]

>>4361895
Threeside probably.

[Anonymous No.4390265]

I think Magicant from Mother 1 is my favourite place in the entire series.

I played it for the first time in 2015 or 2016 and it just struck an emotional chord with me. Do you know how when you're a child and things are so basic like NES games that you fill in the blanks with your imagination? I didn't realize it could still happen as ab adult. Except instead of imagination there were some really heartwarming touching moments, or moments that just struck a nerve with me. There was the NPC that told you that you are welcome there anytime you want because Mary loves you, and the forgotten man.

I think the bridge from imagination to literal is what makes so many games good, and especially the mother series. And probably why I'm on a retro board and can't really get into much modern games. I always wonder what things would be like if Mother 3 was made competently and got on the n64. All that spooky and cozy shit in low polygons would have been so good.

[Anonymous No.4390271]

>>4390265
>Except instead of just imagination

I forgot a word. I love everything about this era visually and aesthetically. Everything was relatively grounded until this point and I spent a lot of time here grinding.

I loved the Crystal Cavern too, that's where the Forgotten Man was but there was also this guy. And I'm the kind of guy who spends too much time wondering and speculating about games, because again the fact it's so vague and we can decide what we think happened is so much fun, and I always wondered if he's related to the shit that goes down in Mother 3.

[Anonymous No.4390284]

>>4387460


He returned to a metaphorical mechanical womb, while the earth reset itself and purged itself of humanity and all we've done to it and everyone else returned to Mother Earth.

And he just missed his mom and tried to build robot waifus for himself, he had a nursery in his Tower of Peace and Love, his spider suit was like a crib.

It's all very freudian.

[Anonymous No.4390470]

>>4390284
Then wheres his father

[Anonymous No.4390515]

>>4389898
Wut?

[Anonymous No.4390541]

You know, I really have to hand it to Itoi.

He's the only person that made multiple games where the end made me want to cry, for various reasons.

Kudos to him.

[Anonymous No.4390581]

How do you guys pronounce "Onett"? I've heard it pronounced "on-it" and "own-ette". As a kid I always assumed it was "won-ette" because phonetically it fits with the other towns having numbers in their names (i.e. Twoson and Threed).

[Anonymous No.4390587]

Tea Time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23qEArWaLjs

[Anonymous No.4391001]

>>4390581
Ive always pronounced it as "own-ette"

[Anonymous No.4391225]

>>4390470
He was shit and beat his kids which is why Porkey thinks being a cunt will make him Ness' friend. He was also a rich cunt hence Porkey thinking money = happiness.

[Anonymous No.4391283]

>>4391225
But then why would he idolize his mom when she encoraged the beatings

[Anonymous No.4391629]

>>4390581
O-nett.

[Anonymous No.4392740]

So what did paula and ness do while they were trapped in that hole in threed?

[Anonymous No.4393412]

>>4392740
[Spoiler] consentual hugging

[Anonymous No.4393742]

>>4392740
Probably sleep in shifts.

[Anonymous No.4394414]

>>4391283
He wanted a not bad mom and projected his desires

[Anonymous No.4395216]

>>4394414
Wouldnt he want a not shit dad too?

[Anonymous No.4396121]

>>4387527
Fourside was my fav

[Anonymous No.4396139]

>>4361895
>first heading to onett and seeing cars and people roll by
>feels like a comfy living world
>realising you can order pizza

[Anonymous No.4396167]

When I first played Earthbound I was disappointed that they didn't continue the numbering scheme of the cities. I expected towns that started with Five, Six, Seven, Eight, and Nine.

[Anonymous No.4396172]

Dusty Dunes and Deep Darkness
Monkeys in Earthbound are the best

[Anonymous No.4396221]

>>4361895
Summers for sure. I always gravitate towards the beach levels/cities in games for some reason. I should probably move to the coast.

[Anonymous No.4396323]

>>4396221
Coasts always suck irl. They tend to be gloomy and foggy most of the time, and they tend to be massively overpopulated. Also there's the whole flooding and hurricane thing, which I promise you sucks more than Tornadoes and so on in steppes.

[Anonymous No.4396337]

>>4396323
> tfw I will never be able to move to Costa del Sol

[Anonymous No.4396346]

>>4396323
>implying the entirety of each coast is either NYC or LA

I'm really really bad at geography, but come on man. North Carolina isn't foggy or over-populated, and that's just one example out of many.

[Anonymous No.4396941]

>>4369519
I feel like the reason M3 is so poular over there is beacuse it wasnt released. Like, if M1 or M2 wasnt released, it would be as popular as M3 is now

[Anonymous No.4396945]

>>4396941
What? Are you implying M3 is more popular then EB? That is nowhere close to the truth, EB is much more popular in both the US and Japan.

[Anonymous No.4396970]

>>4396945
On starman.net and other such places, i mean. My bad, i should have specified.

[Anonymous No.4397127]

>>4396139
Earthbound is top tier comfy

[Anonymous No.4398495]

>>4390284
>mechanical womb
>Spider suit like a crib

These are very good points. A good purpose of these threads is just seeing what details you've missed.

I think the question was posted earlier if Porky would be the way he is without abusive parents? I think that's a hard question, because there's certainly a genetic factor to all of this, so it kind of begs a question. I think he wouldn't have been nearly as bad, though he'd probably certainly be maladjusted.

>>4396221
I'd like to live in a peaceful rest valley-esque place I'd think. Places like that are often expensive though.

[Anonymous No.4399145]

>>4396346
South Carolina is better

[Anonymous No.4400225]

>>4396941
I always wonder how things would have gone if M3 was released for N64.

[Anonymous No.4400227]

I never bought the whole "Earthbound fanboys are cancer" meme...

But then I saw this video about some EB USA documentary someone is making and regret so much.

[Anonymous No.4400374]

>>4400227
You've never stepped foot into the hellhole that is starmen.net?

[Anonymous No.4400405]

>>4400227
Theyre a loud minority. Most EB/mother fanboys keep their moths shut until its brought up. Beseides, it could be worse, at least its not FNAF or SU

[Anonymous No.4401362]

>>4400225
I think ness was supposed to be in that one. They had his model in one of the scrernshots. I dont know why they changed it, it would have been a lot cooler if he was in it.

[Anonymous No.4402801]

>>4398495
I think one of the reaaons porky was an asshole is that he practically lived on top of the mani mani statue in fourside

[Anonymous No.4402861]

>>4398495
"In the Japanese version, the valley was called "Grateful Dead Valley". The name was likely changed to avoid lawsuits from the real-life band Grateful Dead."

Neat!

[Anonymous No.4404474]

>>4401362
>dont know why they changed it,

I remember reading an interview from Itoi saying he changed a lot because he didn't want to be too cruel to his fans.

I think we were going to see Eagleland and the rest of the world crumble in an apocalypse. It's only alluded to in the GBA version, but I remember seeing beta screenshots of something like a town being destroyed somewhere.

>>4402861
I feel like this is an important fact to share that is probably related to all the love for counterculture in Earthbound. Not to mention the mushroom status effect.

Also in Pokemon Red/Blue there was a hiker high as fuck on mushrooms, but it was changed to hayfever here. People from Ape went on to do Pokemon Red/Blue so yeah.

Also just japan in general.

[Anonymous No.4404479]

>>4398495
>These are very good points. A good purpose of these threads is just seeing what details you've missed.

Yeah I really need to go back and replay Mother 3 sometime. A lot of characterization is in the details and a lot of it probably passed over my head as a teenager. The game has a great atmosphere.


Is there a way to darken the palette of GBA games using emulation? It's so bright because of the no backlight thing.

[Anonymous No.4405096]

>>4404474
I remember hearing a rumor that ness's family were supposed to be killed by the starmen when giygas invaded onett, but im not sure if that was true

[Anonymous No.4405530]

>>4404474
So was ness supposed to be the masked man, or was he supposed to help lucas?

[Anonymous No.4407463]

>>4405096
Damn, that would have been brutal since we actually see the family interact more

[Anonymous No.4409423]

>>4402861
So does that mean that greatful dead valley is like a graveyard or something?

[Anonymous No.4411168]

A bump because I quite enjoy this thread.

[Anonymous No.4411528]

Can we get an art dump in here?

[Anonymous No.4411613]

I want to see a remake of this game. It would work great in 3d

[Anonymous No.4412949]

>>4399145
South Carolina is barren wasteland that reeks of poverty and shit. North Carolina is best Carolina.

[Anonymous No.4413662]

>>4412949
T. Northerner

[Anonymous No.4414882]

>>4411528
That would be really nice.

[Anonymous No.4415501]

>>4414882
Im working on it

[Anonymous No.4416238]

[Anonymous No.4416435]

Okay, here's a question for you all that I'm actually curious to know the answer to:
Of all the characters there are in all the three Mother games, which ones are your top three favourites? And why?

[Anonymous No.4416596]

>>4362746
Oh god you again

[Anonymous No.4416810]

>earthbound thread
>someone talks about earthbound
>cool
>someone talks about mother/beginnings
>cool
>someone talks about mother 3
>cool
>someone talks about undertale
>Not cool pls gtfo

[Anonymous No.4416984]

>>4416810
Because its a mother thread. Not an undertale thread.

[Anonymous No.4416989]

>>4416435
Ness, jeff and giygas

[Anonymous No.4417454]

>>4396167
Yeah, i never got that.

[Anonymous No.4417490]

>>4416435
The Runaway Five

I know it's more than three, but whatchagonnado

[Anonymous No.4418005]

>>4405530
Ness being the masked man might have been neat, but then you get into the problem where if someone didn't play Mother 2, they wouldn't get it. In Japan that wasn't an issue since Mother 2 was popular, but it was also rather old at the time.

Also begs the question as to "how"? I think if Ness showed up, it'd maybe be indirectly as he's pursuing Porky.

>>4416435
Giygas, Ness/Jeff tie, and maybe Andonuts.

[Anonymous No.4419184]

[Anonymous No.4419283]

[Anonymous No.4419358]

Just recently decided i wanted to pick up a SNES and get some games for it, Earthbound being one of the main games i want

Could anyone explain to me why it costs so much? Is it just low production + high demand? Any hope for the average eBay price being below $150?
Where else are good places to look? Most of my local stores seem to have a pretty good idea of what they have. I guess i could try flea markets and goodwill but i feel like that'll take a while.

Also is it just earthbound (mother 2) on eshops? Are there official translations of 1 and 3?

[Anonymous No.4419804]

>>4419358
> Is it just low production + high demand?
Pretty much. Abysmal marketing meant that this game didnt do so well over in the states, so not many copies were made. So now actual copies are expensive as fuck. If you really want a physical copy, get a reproduction cart with a running mod on it

[Anonymous No.4419825]

>>4419804
Yeah I'd love as authentic one but i might just have to get a repo

I've never bought a repo cart, anything to look out for or are they similar quality for the most part

[Anonymous No.4420030]

>>4419825
I dont know, but id assume that theres some place to get them. Try looking on ebay or Craigslist

[Anonymous No.4421206]

[Anonymous No.4421208]

[Anonymous No.4421212]

[Anonymous No.4421403]

I'm playing the game now on my SNES Classic that I DIDN'T buy from a scalper fag

Jeff just rescued Ness and Paula, and then trapped all the zombies in the tent. On my way outta Threed now.

[Anonymous No.4422414]

[Anonymous No.4422590]

>>4361895
The suffering of the kids at the end when all hope has been lost and they're calling for help and looked like nobody was there, brought me to tears a little. Then I really started to tear up when the prayer got through and it turns out everyone was there, supporting you. All you had to do was make your voice heard.

I realized that it was all resonating with me because it brought to mind how I felt when I was going through my cancer treatment.

[Anonymous No.4422653]

>>4421403
Did you talk to the zombies when they were trapped? They were fucking hilarious.

[Anonymous No.4423329]

>>4421403
One thing that I love about this series (minus 3) is that as you progress the towns are themed after the seasons so it really feels like time is progressing.

I can't remember many other games that did this. Some modern Pokemon games do, but it's not retro.

[Anonymous No.4423330]

>>4421212
PAULA NO

GET AWAY FROM NESS' FUCK SHACk

[Anonymous No.4423412]

>>4423330
>implying its not paulas fuck shack

[Anonymous No.4423418]

>>4366305
Starman Deluxe and Ghost of Starman

[Anonymous No.4423692]

What i would give for an earthbound cartoon

[Anonymous No.4425414]

[Anonymous No.4426392]

>>4423412
>implying it's a shack

[Anonymous No.4426850]

>>4426392
Well i dont know if i would call it a home, what with the wall falling out

[Anonymous No.4427983]

[Anonymous No.4427985]

Moonside was cool

[Anonymous No.4428335]

Probably most of the game from Threed and on was great, but my favorite dungeon would be the Starman Base.

[Anonymous No.4428564]

>>4361895
>All these Moonsides

That is the worst area in the game by far. Shitty teleporter maze, annoying battles, and laggy as fuck.

[Anonymous No.4428573]

>>4428335
I always imagined that the starman DX sounded like frank horrigan

[Anonymous No.4428579]

>>4428564
What part did you like anon?

[Anonymous No.4429294]

>>4411613
Id like it in a paper mario style. Either one would be cool

[Anonymous No.4430061]

The blue klux klan

[Anonymous No.4430704]

Fourside was also pretty cool

[Anonymous No.4432041]

>>4428335
I found the swird of kings on my first starman

[Anonymous No.4432218]

>>4427985
No it wasn't.

I never realized how sinister this specific yes means no dialogue was until just now.

[Anonymous No.4432257]

Do you guys do a yearly playthough or anything? It was around December about four years ago I said fuck it and spent $220 on a physical copy so I tend to always replay around this time of the year.

[Anonymous No.4432395]

>>4432257
I play it during summer and winter. Those are the most comfy rpg times

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.4432408]

>>4362084
literally me

[Anonymous No.4432516]

[Anonymous No.4433149]

>>4368223
just like moot, Ness never appears in porn without his hat

[Anonymous No.4434805]

>>4421403
as an oldfag the SNES Classic kinda bugs me.
these things are artifacts.
the battery in my Secret of Mana is dead, so all saves are lost and none can be made. it's not exactly simple the replace either, and you need a special tool to open the cartridge.
THAT'S the shit you should go thru to play these works of art.

[Anonymous No.4434820]

>>4434805
Are you saying these games should be difficult to be able to play? Emulators are the greatest thing to happen to retro gaming as it allows people to play so much they never would have been able to before. I enjoy collecting myself a bit but I don't think everyone should have to hunto down and pay for these games.

[Anonymous No.4434827]

[Anonymous No.4434831]

[Anonymous No.4434832]

[Anonymous No.4435538]

>>4434805
>he doesn't know about the pen trick
Shaggy diggy

[Anonymous No.4436047]

>>4435538
.....
>brb fixing game

[Anonymous No.4436082]

>>4436047
Kek

[Anonymous No.4436985]

[Anonymous No.4436990]

>>4436985

[Anonymous No.4437764]

[Anonymous No.4439108]

Ya know, the more i think about it, this part was kind of fucked up.

[Anonymous No.4439212]

>>4361895
Everything from the beginning to finishing Twoson. Maximum comfiness.

The rest of the game has plenty of great moments, but in general it gets worse as it goes on.

[Anonymous No.4439276]

>>4439212
For me at least, the first two towns were small and heartfelt, you really didnt know what was going on, so everything was happy and nice, but once you get into threed, you really get a sense of the big adventure youre going on, you see how big the world is, how important what youre doing is and how much you have to do. Sure, it may not be as comfy as the first two towns, but there was a great sense of adventure.

[Anonymous No.4439580]

The bride going to fourside was great

[Anonymous No.4441113]

The giygas fight. Speaking of which, what was your reaction?

[Anonymous No.4441493]

Are you kidding?

Giygas
That shit is nightmare fuel to this day

>Building a literal devil machine using alien technology only to be mindbroken and have your matter scattered across time and space in some distorted form that is only held together by said devil machine while your very presence is making a planet sick and influenced by your negativity and tortured remnants of your psych

That concept is some primal fear engine material

[Anonymous No.4441506]

>>4434805
Agreed
My SNES Classics are for reselling

[Anonymous No.4441568]

>>4441113
i was like 9 years old, i literally shit my pants
i dropped the game, i didnt beat it i played mario world instead

[Anonymous No.4441572]

>>4361895
lost underworld
i dont know why exactly but i enjoyed so much that part

[Anonymous No.4441574]

>>4441568
When you mean literally do you mean literally or figuratively

[Anonymous No.4441664]

>>4441493
>If the chosen four failed giygas's influence would spread his pain agony all over the galaxy, turning everything into a literal hellscape
That's some warhammer 40k shit right there

[Anonymous No.4441674]

>>4441113
I thought that after the pokey fight, it would all be over, but then they bitch slap you with that shit. Plus there's the fact that the giygas fight is a whole different ballgame than the other fights in the game, like all the other fights are about killing the enemy, but the giygas fight is basically you just trying to stay alive long enough for enough time so paula can pray, but if one of your team goes down, then you have to focus on them first. It was hard as fuck for me, and the random attacks from giygas really didnt help.

[Anonymous No.4441735]

>>4441493
I've always said the devil machine is just built around what he was in in Mother 1. He was always frail/volatile enough to need to be contained.

[Anonymous No.4441785]

So it seems to be the common consensus here that Mother 3 is the worst in the series? It's actually my favorite. I feel like it does a much better job telling a cohesive story than the first two games, where it's largely just kids wandering around and experiencing things, which is nice in it's own right. Personally, the game's themes hit me hard and made me feel things that the first two really only did near the end, and the more personal final confrontation with the Masked Man is my favorite in the series. In terms of gameplay, it objectively blows the other two out of the water, but I understand that storytelling and thematic things are very subjective. To be clear, I still love 2 and 1 is iffy for me, and I'm very interested in hearing other opinions and the reasoning for them.

I hope this post isn't too fucking massive

[Anonymous No.4442059]

>>4441785
I feel the problem with M3 is that it relies too heavily on common cliches of other JRPGs. Plus there was a lot of exposition that was just read out to you where i felt they could have shown you. Plus I feel like the masked man was inferior to giegue and pokey from the first two games because with them you get to see them go through more of an arc and you have more reasons to care about them, whereas 3 just relies on "but its your twin brother" without actually fleshing him out or giving you a reason to care beyond that. It felt like a copout and i felt they could have done a better job at fleshing claus out. Don't get me wrong, its a great game and i can see why it can be someone's favorite, but i feel the first two hit some notes better.

[Anonymous No.4442065]

>>4441785
>>4442059
Although I will admit, in the first two games you do kind of have to read a little deeper to get a cohesive story out of it, and there are plenty of things you could miss, but I prefer that to just being handed exposition over and over again. I guess it just comes down to what you want from a story, its very subjective in that way.

[Anonymous No.4442218]

>>4442059
>>4442065
I can definitely see where you're coming from, and why someone would like the more vague storytelling in the first two. I guess it does come down to the fact that I don't really mind most JRPG and anime tropes, and I don't think the game got all too heavy with the exposition, aside from that scene with Leder, of course. I suppose you have a point in Giygas being more developed than Clause, but I feel like Porky is a better comparison to Giygas, as he's the main, more developed villain. Claus is the final boss and fills the role of the atypical boss fight, true, but he's meant to be just a tool of Porky's, whereas Giygas was the full main antagonist of the first two games.

[Anonymous No.4442323]

>>4442218
There was another thread before this ever some anon sumedgiygas/pokey vs pokey/claus thing up pretty good, I'm just trying to find it

[Anonymous No.4443956]

>>4441572
The part where you go to that cliff in a cave was trippy. The music made it really kind of creepy

[Anonymous No.4444276]

>>4441735
I always thought that the devils machine was the Apple of enlightenment after being transformed by giygas

[Anonymous No.4444749]

I've always enjoyed the dragons quest combat style from EB. Is that just me?

[Anonymous No.4444917]

If a sequel to this game were all up to you, then how would you make it be like?
What would the story be about?
Who would the playable characters be?
Who would the main and secondary villains be?
Would there be different endings?

[Anonymous No.4444952]

>first time playing earthbound
>buy a fresh egg
>start hearing weird bird noises
>this goes on for awhile
>eventually see chicken in inventory
>confuses the hell out of me
its the little things in this game that i love so much

[Anonymous No.4445074]

>>4361895
Ness and crew werent in the area for long but I really liked Summers.

[Anonymous No.4445864]

>>4444952
That made the part where you have to get an egg to the monkey in the dusty dunes desert cave way harder than it should have been. But it was still hilarious.

[Anonymous No.4446132]

>>4445074
The stoic club was hilarious.

[Anonymous No.4446394]

>>4444952
I remember when I first got mushroomized in twoson. I was confused as shit

[Anonymous No.4446778]

>>4377335
Proof that Earthbound fans are cancer

[Anonymous No.4446829]

>>4375004
I wish we were friends irl

[Anonymous No.4447009]

>>4445074
Beach places are always comfy

[Anonymous No.4447846]

Master Belch was also pretty good. Heard there's a sound effect for his burp noise. It's been 9 years since I've seen snow fall here.

[Anonymous No.4447957]

>>4361895
I liked Winters a lot. It really expanded the road-trip feeling of the game for me, I think in part because I'm British and it was fun to see us get the Eagleland treatment. (Particularly since it was winter at the time I was playing) Not to mention the interesting experience of suddenly shifting to a new character and knowing that things were slowly converging on one another. The Sky Runner cutscene was also particularly enjoyable.
Twoson is about where the game starts to pick up pace, so I have to give that a mention. I actually tried Earthbound about a year before I played through it properly and then gave up before reaching Twoson. On my second playthrough, it was quite special to suddenly start going "Oh, that's what people see in this...", especially when I went and threw money at Orange Kid.

The Runaway 5 arc in general was also great and needs a mention. Also, the buildup around the gold-mine was great. Again, the game tricked me into thinking it was building up to something conventional - I think I expected a million dollars or some gold, since that's what everyone was hinting in a videogame-style "telling you what the reward will be without actually saying it" sort of way. Then you don't get any gold at all, just a diamond. In general, the ability of the game to keep tricking me in little ways like that is one of the things that made it so enjoyable. It never wound up sending me wasting hours on some pointless task, but it still had a few "Oh, you think you're so smart?" moments.

[Anonymous No.4448027]

>>4444749
Nah, it's a simple but fine system. The combos in M3 are nice though and add a little diversity and involvment though.
>>4444917
What? Even with all its flaws I would keep Mother 3 the way it is. I'm happy it wasn't just EB again and was something pretty different. Both games feel diverse with their own strengths and weaknesses.

[Anonymous No.4448081]

>>4448027
I think he meant a direct sequel. Or just another add-on to the series in general

[Anonymous No.4448737]

>>4447957
Even though Ness is best boy, i always liked jeff. His issues with his dad gave him a relatable and sympathetic character, then they get resolved towards the end with him spending time with his dad. That gave me the feels.

[Anonymous No.4448842]

>>4448081
This is what I meant. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

[Anonymous No.4448853]

>>4448081
>>4448842
Sorry then but even then I think I wouldn't want to see a continuation in any form personally. Each Mother game is pretty self contained outside of the villains and some key aspects like PSI and such. We got to see Ness and his friend's story, what they did after is probably best left to interpretation.

[Anonymous No.4449634]

Magicant

I absolutely love the trope of the hero confronting his own inner demons in an actual fight and walking away with their power greatly expanded, and EB was one of the best examples of that.

It was hard as balls too, so it really felt earned

[Anonymous No.4449709]

>>4405096
Ya know, when I got to that part I thought they were going to take that route too, i was all prepared for for it and stuff too. Kind of glad they didn't do that though

[Anonymous No.4449718]

>>4361895
That's a tough one senpai, each part of the game is pretty special in its own way. Moonside is a big hit for me. But I have love for every part.

[Anonymous No.4449719]

>>4361952
Not sure if serious or trolling.

[Anonymous No.4449736]

>>4362872
I never heard of a goddess or deity in Mother 2. What am I missing here?

[Anonymous No.4449739]

>>4362932
you sound like a faggot

[Anonymous No.4449748]

>>4363453
F

[Anonymous No.4449801]

My favorite thing in the game is the homesick mechanic. It's so perfect for translating being a kid into gameplay. My favorite part is probably the zombie village (haven't played for awhile,can't remember the name), because it's the first time you really feel like Giygas is a threat and it isn't just a wacky adventure anymore. Redowbling the emulator right now, fuck I love this game. Could never get into Mother 3 though, it's just so cliched compared to EB.

[Anonymous No.4449843]

>>4422590
When I got to that part I was getting my head handed to me (hehe get it) so it really felt like the kids were in pain and near death, so that made it all the more desperate, so it was so relieving and uplifting to see that their calls were answered and you finally got some help.

[Anonymous No.4451176]

>>4449801
>tfw only ever got homesick once because I always called mom at every telephone
Feels good to have resource management skills

[Anonymous No.4451249]

Saturn Valley has to be the most kawaii place in the game for sure.

Also, anyone else spend like 20 mins on that slot machine in the desert?

[Anonymous No.4451393]

This place right here.
It's a weird intermediary stage that doesn't even really need to be in the game. The fact that you could access only part of the stage from the Lost Underworld and see the remains of the Saturn machine really creeped me out.
And the trumpet blaring across the void is terrifying...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy3s4Yaabfs

[Anonymous No.4451394]

>>4451393

[Anonymous No.4451472]

>>4451393
The trumpet's from a The Beatles song called All You Need Is Love.
Messed around with the BGM on an emulator to make the trumpet sound funny.

[Anonymous No.4451751]

>>4451249
I did. I got really mad at it and threw my controller because of it once.

[Anonymous No.4451850]

What's up with this guy anyway? Is he good?

[Anonymous No.4451909]

>>4451850
I don know, but he really fucked Aloysius

[Anonymous No.4451910]

>>4451909
what did he do to him?

[Anonymous No.4451920]

>>4451910
He stole lardina from him and forced him out of his house

[Anonymous No.4452189]

>>4451850
He was the one who dug up the mani mani statue, so...

[Anonymous No.4452220]

>>4451393
pop samples make for god unsettling music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiUmTUSbq0w

[Anonymous No.4452476]

>>4452189
Exactly, but he seems to be buddy-buddy with Ness, so I don't know if he's a good or bad guy. He is literally called Liar, too.

[Anonymous No.4453939]

>>4452476
He might have been changed by the mani mani statue

[Anonymous No.4454108]

>>4451920
He got Cucked hard

[Anonymous No.4454343]

>>4451394
That whole area was just creepy

[Anonymous No.4454409]

>>4386989

[Anonymous No.4454627]

>>4454409
Don't reply, you'll only encourage him

[Anonymous No.4455609]

>>4449801
Threed is the name

[Anonymous No.4455862]

[Anonymous No.4455881]

>>4441735
That entire boss fight in M1 was great. The fact that him just trying to communicate with you could wipe the party really did demonstrate how much more psychically powerful he was than you.
As for the machine was around Giegue, I just figured it was some kind of breathing apparatus, because Earth's atmosphere was toxic to him.

[Anonymous No.4456889]

[Anonymous No.4456952]

>>4455881
>because Earth's atmosphere was toxic to him.
It was?

[Anonymous No.4457110]

>>4372131
if you have a retron or SNES you can buy a reproduction cartridge for around $40 if you don't want to emulate. Most of the reproductions are titled Earthbound Uncut which is the uncensored Japanese version of the game.

There are also reproduction cartridges for Mother 1 and Mother 3 on NES and GBA.

[Anonymous No.4457163]

>>4385827
Lloyd is the soyboy, senpai

[Anonymous No.4457374]

>>4456889
Did they fug?

[Anonymous No.4457698]

>>4434805

I also own every single one of these carts.

>@OP

Any of the un-revisitable areas are special of course, because you get it once and then you're done with it so you have to make it count, in a way. Moonside is a good/popular choice, which I also liked. I enjoy the enemies there.

Onett itself, once you get past the prologue and start the game "proper", is highly comfy. The other towns are just a bit sleepier and not as pleasant, somehow. Like Shelbyvilles to Onett's Springfield.

I have a love/hate thing with Magicant because it's easily the hardest part of the game, I rented the game several times and it kicked my ass on the first go-round. Ness' Nightmare is the hardest fight in the entire game because you have to pull double/triple duty all by yourself. Also IIRC if you fuck up and save while in Magicant without a proper backup, and without being completely prepared (I think this was my mistake the first time), you're just about stuck (is it possible to grind indefinitely in magicant in such a case? I forget.)

[Anonymous No.4457813]

>>4456952
It's never stated, I just kinda figured that was the reasoning for being in that bubble.

[Anonymous No.4457840]

>>4457698
Well I don't think that the player is entirely screwed at Magicant if they are under leveled and only have 1 save, couple reasons for this.

1. There's free resting area here along with ATM and Tracey to handle your storage

2. Shop that sells and Earth Pendant (IIRC)

3. A present containing The Magicant Bat so the player has a weapon. Also 1 bag of Dragonite.

4. Birdmen to help out get to the spooky Sea area (Sea of Eden? Whatever it's called)

5. Worst case scenario is that there's re spawning enemies for the player to grind on

[Anonymous No.4457952]

>>4455862
Cute

[Anonymous No.4458530]

>>4457840
It would still be hard as fuck though

[Anonymous No.4458603]

>>4361939
geez what a faggot, you are probably a molester urself

[Anonymous No.4458609]

>>4458603
>le sharp bamboozle hook

[Anonymous No.4459004]

Are there any changes between the original english snes version and the current eshop version?

[Anonymous No.4459009]

>>4459004
Flashing PSI attacks are less flashy, that's it. No script changes that I'm aware of.

[Anonymous No.4459015]

>>4459009
Alright cool. Will probably pick that up and maybe the cartridge later

[Anonymous No.4459221]

>>4451249
I was playing and playing and playing, getting all the chicks and whatever prizes you can win, and when I finally got 777, they just said "Sorry, amigo, but you can't hold any more items".
It was devastating.

[Anonymous No.4459810]

>>4459221
What even was the prize anyways?

[Anonymous No.4459867]

>>4459810
A magic tart, I think.

[Anonymous No.4460185]

>>4459867
Oh, thats cool, i guess

[Anonymous No.4461536]

>>4459867
What does a magic tart even do?

[Anonymous No.4461560]

>>4461536
replenishes PP

[Anonymous No.4461582]

>>4461560
How much?

[Anonymous No.4461961]

>>4459015
A repro cart or the real thing?

[Anonymous No.4462005]

>>4461961
I want the real thing but they're just so damn expensive. I'll decide when that time comes

[Anonymous No.4462215]

>>4462005
It's probably better to get a repro with some mods on it. Cheaper and easier.

[Anonymous No.4462726]

>>4457840
I could never get myself to use more than one if the flying men. Id just get super sad when they died

[Anonymous No.4462736]

>>4457813
But that would make no sense since he was adopted and raised by humans.

[Anonymous No.4462821]

>>4361895
Aw shit, that's a hard question OP..
>place
Cave the time Forgot was boggling me. When you entered it for first time and later on.
>part of the game
Jeff intro

[Anonymous No.4463179]

>>4462736
This

[Anonymous No.4463393]

when does this game become more interesting. the combat is just so unsatisfying and boring, it's almost literally mashing.

I just got to the jeff part and quit again. leveling up paula is hell and i'm not looking forward to doing it again with jeff. I don't want to grind because of the braindead combat that revolves around your luck of a magic butterfly spawning

[Anonymous No.4463431]

>>4463393
The combat isn't for everyone. If it doesn't appeal to you then you should go find a hack with a different combat system. As for leveling, i never really found that difficult. It just kind of came naturally. I think things really take off after you get jeff in the party though

[Anonymous No.4463436]

>>4463393
>he relies entirely on PP based attacks
Brainlet/10

[Anonymous No.4463438]

>>4463431
mother 3 with the "attack to the beat!" is infinitely more fun

[Anonymous No.4463498]

>>4463438
eh, i didnt really like it. i thought it was kind of BS that if you miss a beat your entire attack is shit out of luck. i like a system thats more strategic and logic based, so i prefer the dragons quest style of gameplay M2 had. it really all comes down to personal preference. if it really bothers you so much then im sure you could dig around and find hack with a different combat system. loads of them exist

[Anonymous No.4463805]

>>4451394
so what was that tentacle thing?

[Anonymous No.4464004]

>>4463393
It really is nice that you don't even have to fight if you're at a higher level than the enemy.

[Anonymous No.4464045]

>>4463393
I find the mechanics of slowly degrading health to be interesting, especially when mortal damage is taken. That forces you, despite turn-based combat, to act quickly. Eventually you character can survive it with "guts roll".

Also pic related. Dealing SMAAAASH!! is always satisfying.

[Anonymous No.4464257]

>>4463498
>i thought it was kind of BS that if you miss a beat your entire attack is shit out of luck
That's how combos work in any games with combos

[Anonymous No.4464472]

>>4449736
It's mentioned in the coffee/tea breaks. Also some items (even in Mother 1 there's items on it). In mother 3, same deal, but the item guy also plugs it.

>>4462736
>>4457813
>>4456952
>>4455881
I don't think so. If it was atmosphere he could just wear a space suit I'd think. I don't believe it's microbes either since they evolve for earth life.

I think he was just physically frail and weak.

>>4463393
Combat is turn based rpg with some additional slight gimmicks.

>>4463438
>>4463498
I couldn't get a hang of that system, but I emulated.

[Anonymous No.4464782]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbpAURp1AnM
Love Alex Rochon's stupid low quality Giygas Medley.

[Anonymous No.4465570]

>>4464045
what is an easy way to get my guts up? never could figure that one out.

[Anonymous No.4465608]

>>4465570
Rock Candy glitch. Am a little fuzzy on the details of it, though.
You could also use Guts Capsules, but I think they are very far and few.

[Anonymous No.4465941]

>>4447846
here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl-gvjtFBL8

[Anonymous No.4467308]

>>4464782
phase 2 was the best part

[Anonymous No.4467484]

is Earthboud worth playing if I'm not too interested in RPGs?

[Anonymous No.4467523]

>>4467484
id say give it a try. its fairly different from other JRPGs. but if your not feeling it once your in theres no shame in backing out.

[Anonymous No.4468225]

>>4462821
>jeff intro
This

[Anonymous No.4468251]

>>4369353
Now that was the best part

[Anonymous No.4468787]

>>4467484
The combat is more exciting than a normal RPG in the truest sense. However, unlike other popular SNES RPGs, you cannot see your characters when they fight. In fact visually speakign it's more fx based than animation based.

However, the battle music and backgrounds tend to be held in high esteem.

The gameplay mechanics are really more vessels for the storytelling than anythingt else (or otherwise take a backseat to it).

[Anonymous No.4469265]

>>4467484
Probably not, but give it a shot anyway.

[Anonymous No.4470486]

>>4468787
I'd say it's worth it just for the music

[Anonymous No.4471058]

>>4443956
It's the first few notes of the french national anthem slowed down. And it's also my ringtone.

[Anonymous No.4471074]

>>4471058
It's a sample of the intro from The Beatles' 'All You Need Is Love'.

[Anonymous No.4471912]

>>4471074
which in turn is _______

[Anonymous No.4471989]

>>4471912
The Beatles had people musicians play that section for All You Need Is Love, and EarthBound sampled that section of that recording. It's not a sample on the original track, just a borrowed musical phrase played live.

[Anonymous No.4472089]

>>4471912

Noterday :^)

[Anonymous No.4472283]

should i make another thread?