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4361073 No.4361073 [Reply] [Original]

Are they worth?
the only console i have a flashcart for is the gamecube but for all my retro stuff i just use the real things (tm)

>> No.4361078

...you have a Gamecube flash cart?

>> No.4361081
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>>4361078
yeah it looks like this

>> No.4361083

GameCube flashcart? Mind to post a pic OP?

>> No.4361101

>>4361073
Flashcarts are the best way to play retro games

the only people who have a problem with them are autistic collectors/scalpers who are mad that people can play games without spending hundreds of dollars on 30 year old plastic crap

>> No.4361107

>>4361101
RGB / PVM guys get mad as fuck too, like shit man it's not my fault my old TV doesn't have SCART dude goddamn

>> No.4361157

>>4361073
Alright. Here is something that pisses me off, playing games off flash based media is not inherently a flashcart, as you need a cartridge to have the cart part. The PSIO is not a flashcart, softmodding your Wii to play Gamecube ISOs is not a "flashcart". Please, for the love of christ, get it right.

>> No.4361183

Yes, they are worth it.

2d2snes is a bit pricier than cheap ones but damn they are a nice cart.

Really great for people who actually want to play old games and not just collect.

>> No.4361204

>>4361073
They literally destroy your console over time so no.

>> No.4361230

I'm almost happy not having one because I know I'll go my whole life without 100%ing every game i own the real game for
Some of those games are hard af

>> No.4361259

>>4361157
sorry, i meant i jailbroke them ;)

>> No.4361269

>>4361204

Here we go with some collectorfag spreading misinformation.

>> No.4361275

>>4361073
>Pirating
Poorfag detected.

>> No.4361283

>>4361269
Even if they did destroy your console over year you could buy five consoles for the price of one chase game.

>> No.4361289

>>4361269
Only some models of the Everdrive have mismatched voltages.

>> No.4361369

The N64 one is very worth it: entire library sans Pokemon Stadium 2 and Animal Crossing

While being able to enjoy four player, using the controller and expansion packs. Also knowing that emulation for that console is shit

>> No.4361580

>>4361275
back to /v/ please.

>> No.4361620

>>4361580
Nah, I belong in /vr/ because unlike you, I actually own more physical copies of retro games than your broke ass.

>> No.4361623

>>4361620
No, you belong on /v/ because you bitch about piracy.

>> No.4361624

>>4361107
Fuck that shit anon, I have a PVM and I still use flashcarts

>> No.4361626

>>4361580
fuck off to /v/ fag, emulatorfags and pirates aren't welcome here

>> No.4361629

>>4361626
no, (you)'re not welcome here. the most common piece of advice when it comes to people who want to get into retro vidya is, "buy a flashcart + real console". now fuck off.

>> No.4361632

>>4361626
Wrong. Pirating is the default way games should be shared and is expected around here. If I bought a game I would never admit it.

>> No.4361634

>>4361623
>>4361629
/v/ is all about piracy faggot. Now fuck off back to their.

>> No.4361640

>>4361634
half the board is anti-piracy shills and the other half is console war shitposting / political bait.

>> No.4361643

>>4361632
You're 12 years old.

>> No.4361662

>>4361632
You're too poor to buy a game, so it's not like you could admit it, due to lack of funds.

>> No.4361682
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4361682

How can it be pirating if I use my own ROMs dumped from carts I own?

>> No.4361710

>>4361620
>I spend money on old videogames instead of other stuff therefore I'm rich
fucking americans

>> No.4361727

>>4361710
>Implying console game collectors don't buy other stuff, like a car, a bed, a house, food, toilet paper, soap, shampoo, etc...
How poorfag are you, anon?

>> No.4361730

>>4361204
>listen to my baseless argument!!!!

>> No.4361739

>>4361730
>Everdrive employee detected
Go back to /v/

>> No.4361746

>>4361727
>he doesn't emulate toilet paper and shampoo with computer-based equivalents

It's 2017, Anon

>> No.4361757 [DELETED] 

>>4361073
>niggerposting

>> No.4361772

>>4361727
>I hoard old $15 games therefore I'm rich
americans

>> No.4361776

>>4361073
>niggerposting
(Mods are niggers)

>> No.4361797

>>4361101
Not only that, but they can play ROM hacks, translations, JP only games, have cheat codes sometimes even save states, etc. all on one cart. No swapping cartridges and you get the best experience

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>>4361797
>Swapping cartridges isn't part of the best experience

>> No.4361837

>>4361810
You can pop the cartridge in and out.

>> No.4361839

>>4361810
The sad thing is that newfags today probably don't even know what Gaia online was.

>> No.4361868

>>4361839
the good thing is that now you have a million new boogeymans to whine about like a bitch you stupid fuck piece of shit

>> No.4361873

>>4361810
Damn son thats real

>> No.4361913

>>4361157
Nerds getting angry over nothing turns me on

>> No.4361917

>>4361772
>$15 games
>Has no idea how much the games are worth on ebay.
>A copy of MUSHA complete in box runs for $500
>A copy of Batman Forever The Arcade Game complete in box, runs for $150.
>A copy of Power Stone 2, runs for $80
Go back to /v/ anon

>> No.4361926

>>4361810
Uh, no.
I'm pretty sure the games are the best part.
Like genuinely 100% sure if you think swapping carts is the best part then just buy a busted console that doesn't even work and two cheapo bootleg carts, and swap them repeatedly.
You're set, entertainment for HOURS.

>> No.4361929 [DELETED] 

>>4361917
Why the fuck you'd buy them complete in box? "Waah, when I try to buy rare things mint in box never spit on they cost more whaat"

If you just want to buy the game buy the cart (why not a repro cart) and print the manual, who gives a shit?

>> No.4361934

>>4361917
Why the fuck you'd buy them complete in box? "Waah, when I try to buy rare things mint in box never spit on they cost more whaat"

If you just want to play the game - buy the cart (why not a repro cart) and print the manual, who gives a shit?

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>>4361917
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sega-Mega-Drive-Genesis-Musha/302247062889?hash=item465f542d69:g:5z4AAOSwWxNYoonF
>Price: 13$
If you're not a collectorfag and just want to play the games, then yes, you can find them for this much.

>> No.4361954

>>4361934
I bought these games brand new when they were released(except for MUSHA, I don't own that. Not much of a shoot em up guy). Plus two of the games I mentioned are CD, not cartridge. But I'm not against buying repro carts of the same game if the real one is too over priced.

>> No.4361967

>>4361953
I got my repro copy for $5 on AliExpress.

>> No.4362236

>>4361283
Don't destroy history just because you're too cheap to buy games.

>> No.4362262

>collectortards triggered as usual

>> No.4362329

>>4362236
>replace cap
>console works fine again
mmmm

>> No.4362368

>>4361953
Repro copies have the same voltage as the everdrive and damage your console as well
Beside they are worse than Everdrive
The Everdrive MD X5 won't damage your console whereas a X3, X7 and any repro carts will

>> No.4362779

>>4362262
>Poorcucks delusional as usual

>> No.4362797

>>4362779
>implying you have any moral ground to stand when you give a reseller your cash
Actual richfags have realised collecting is dead. Buy games from thrift stores and double your money on eBay.

>> No.4362856

enjoy your having one 500$ game, when i have all of them for free

>> No.4362857

>>4362368
>this level of alarmism
There's absolutely no reason a single title repro would have 3.3 voltage since there's no need for it to use flash. Single title repros are made the same way original cartridges were made.

>> No.4362985
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Which flash cart is better for each Nintendo cartridge based console?

>> No.4362992

>>4361204
Proof? Flash cartridges function the same way a normal catridge does. I can't imagine how they would damage your console.

I've got 2 GBAs, a GPA SP, DS Lite, and 3DS that have almost exclusively been using flash carts for years and not a single one of them has had an issue. My Genesis has been going strong with a cheap ass Chinese everdrive clone for a couple years and it still works great.

>> No.4363006

>>4362992
this idiot starter it
https://db-electronics.ca/2017/07/05/the-dangers-of-3-3v-flash-in-retro-consoles/

then another idiot with reputation RETRORGB
continue to spread missinformation
this obese fuck, likes to suck the dick of badassconsoles, another fucker that after more than a year still havent upgrade a 40 gamecubes rgb output as promise and deletes every comment that say anything bad about it proves that is a piece of shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmiDv-y91d4

but hey retrorgb have this fucker right in front of a camera and dont address any of this problems to him, proves that is a pice of shit.

ALSO UNDERSTAND THIS IF YOU USE YOUR CONSOLE 10 HOURS A DAY FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS , YEAH IT WILL DAMAGE YOUR CONSOLE, but at that time you, will be dead and none of your grandchildren will play snes games anymore, the same way none of you play pong or 2600 games anymore

>> No.4363028

>>4363006

Do you take any medicine for high blood pressure, by chance?

>> No.4363054

>>4363006
I mean, the logic stands up. It looks like there's some flash carts and multi-carts that are poorly designed, and might be able to cause some damage from extensive use.

Kind of annoying that people interpret this as "flash carts kill ur console lol". What a bad meme.

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>>4361204
>I have no idea what I'm talking about

Clearly. Flash carts aren't the console killer, bad video mods, maybe. Bad modchips, maybe but a flash cart? Unless the pins are made of carbide spikes, there's nothing to worry about.

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>>4363054
Unless the flash cart is demanding more power from the system than a normal cartridge would, I doubt it.

The only exception to the rule might be carts like the Super DSTwo that drain DS batteries faster for the internal processor on the cart.

As far as overpowering an SNES cart or Genesis, just remember that those systems also had addon carts and games with internal chips that also used more power so unless you're willing to claim that running Star Fox every day for six hours ruins your system or playing Sonic 3 and Knuckles and Knuckles and Knuckles ruins your system, I don't see it.

>> No.4363086

>>4363065
It actually asks for LESS power without a power rectifier forcing certain diodes to dissipate the excess. The demonstration the guy did seemed to me to be for a diode on the everdrive not in the console itself and there has been no demonstration of exactly how damaging it is to diodes to run them .6 volts over

>> No.4363115

>b-buy my $100 cartridge please, it's totally worth it!

>> No.4363121

>>4361107
>>4361624
Flashcards give worse picture quality?

>> No.4363141

The N64 one was worth it due to the state of N64 emulation. The others? Not so much.

>> No.4363149

>>4363006
>but at that time you, will be dead and none of your grandchildren will play snes games anymore, the same way none of you play pong or 2600 games anymore

No it's not like we don't play Atari or 2600 games anymore. Those games were experimental. I hate when people ignore the actual characteristics of games and think "your SNES is the same as their Atari"... no they're not, it's false equivalency. You're probably the same people who think PS2+ should be allowed here.

>> No.4363232

>>4363063
Yeah, you don't have any idea so stfu and stop destroying your console.

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>>4363086
Cool so just emulate. Got it. Glad I dodged that bullet.

>> No.4363580

>>4361739
Back to /leddit/ with you neckbeard

>> No.4363587

>>4363115
>b-buy my multiple $100 cartridges please, you're not p-poor a-are you?

>> No.4363590

No one on this thread is over the age of 16 I see.

>> No.4363642

>>4363580
Back to /4chan.org/ u fucking idiot

>> No.4363803

>>4363149
experimental? pong, tennis for two, space war!
2600 of course not, that was a home system back in that day, the same way you walk to a store today and purchase and xbox one or a ps4.
In 50 or 60 years you probably see a snes in the museum.
the analogy is perfect and is equivalent,
in 60 years no one would play snes games anymore, the same way no ones use a typewriter anymore.
You don't play those games today not because they are "experimental" the reason is very simple those games are very primitive for today standars!

>> No.4363849

>>4361073
Where's the least expensive pace to get an SD2SNES? Which places will be doing Black Friday deals?

>> No.4363906

>>4362857
Almost all cheap Chinese repros use flash instead of ROM, because flash is so ubiquitous and easy to write/rewrite while ROM is mostly outdated and can only be written to once.

>> No.4364135

>>4362857
The fool your arguing with is retarded but so are you for not knowing many cheap repros use 3.3V flash.

>>4363906
>ROM can only be written to once
Literally...

>> No.4364181

>>4363803
Worst post on this board. Learn to write in English before you post here. Until then, stick to a board of your own language.

>> No.4365858

>>4363849
bump

>> No.4365863

>>4365858
You don’t need to bump shit on /vr/ flash carts never go on sale.

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>>4361101
Im a collector and i would prefer that everyone played on flashcarts, bootlegs, repros and emulators. That would mean the prices on the games i want to play would plummit.

>> No.4365874

>>4365867
>prices ever going down
Good joke

>> No.4365936

>>4364181
my opinion!
I don't refutate anything!

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>>4361081
>not black

>> No.4365969

>>4365867
So you're a collector who wants the value of his collection to plummet? Sounds legit. lol bandwagoner

>> No.4365973

>>4361073

As someone who owns an SD2SNES and has Everdrives for the Genesis and N64, flash carts are... kinda worth it, kinda not.

The SD2SNES has utterly horrid compatibility for what it costs - it's not compatible with half the enhancement chips and even though the guy who makes the firmware for it insists he's working on it, probably won't be anytime in the forseeable future.

The N64 and Genesis Everdrives are really good at what they do, though. They're compatible with 99% of games on their respective consoles (the N64 one has like one game that used specialized hardware that isn't supported) and work first time every time.

>> No.4366318

>>4365973
>insists he's working on it
>confirmed long ago that he's not because the part can't handle it
Found your problem

>one game that used specialized hardware
Everything that's more than a "ROM" and a CIC won't work. At least not fully. And there are more than one. There are also many bugs that haven't been (can't be?) fixed in earlier N64 EDs

>> No.4366379

>>4366318
There's 1 (one) game, which can't work with any flashcart, and that's Mario no Photopi.
Everything else works with Everdrive 64 v3.

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>>4361083
>>4361078
I doubt OP can afford it but something like that does exist.

>> No.4366492

>>4366379
But Mario no Photopi does work. You just can't do much of anything with it. And thanks for confirming there are multiple games that don't work with pre V3 EDs.

>> No.4367150

>>4366386
Of course OP can't afford it. He's poor and wants to pirate games.

>> No.4367174

>>4361073
OP here
Switching carts > scrolling thru menus

>> No.4367237

>>4366386
>>4367150
>poor people pirate/use flash carts
Is that what the NEET poorfags that have a hoarding disorder tell themselves nowadays to feel better about their useless collections?

>> No.4367245

>>4367237
>nowadays
you mean since ever

>> No.4367248

>>4366492
literally just two

>> No.4367343

>>4367237
Poorfags can't afford to "hoard" a "collection" dumbass.

>> No.4367351

>>4367343
Untrue

>> No.4367359

>>4367351
Name one poorfag who buys a$500 game on ebay? Oh wait, what's that? You can't name one? Because poorfags can't pay for something that they can barely make within a month with their minimum wage checks? Figures.

>> No.4367362

>>4367359
>500 USD is some untouchable sum for a hobbyist
Jesus christ what a idiotic cookie cutter you are somebody on fucking welfare could buy that shit. Start talking about something that actually requires a fat pay check like a sports car enthusiast or something

>> No.4367368

>>4367359
>unable to afford 500 on something you really really want
maybe in africa

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>>4361107
Indeed they do. The retro RGB podcast guys are the worst.

>> No.4367565

>>4367359
You don't even have to buy $500 games on eBay to be a collectorfag that's moving goalposts anyway.

>> No.4367584

>>4361107
>it's not my fault my old TV doesn't have SCART dude goddamn
Literally nobody blames someone in North America for not having a television with a SCART plug. The only thing that is rather comical are the ones who whine so much about the plug itself sure it is bulky it's a design of the 70s but in the end you plug it into the television and play games, I mean how shit human motor skills does one have, to spend what hours trying to plug in a freaking SCART plug.

>> No.4367602

Flashcarts are a great alternative to paying out the ass for unboxed games in a market that has way overpriced them in comparison to other collector's industries.

As a good investment, I wouldn't buy 1970s Star Wars toys out of the box, so why should I be shamed by autist collector into paying for his crappy scratched up cartridge with no manual?

If I buy a game, I buy it to NOT open it or play it so hence why flash carts are the smart choice.

>> No.4367770

>>4367362
You make it sound like people on welfare get $10,000 a month. Are you talking from experience or are you talking out of your ass? Because God knows if people on welfare were receiving 10 grand a month, they wouldn't be living in the ghetto. But go ahead, make a fool of yourself again.

>> No.4367793

>>4367770
They can buy Iphones,televisions on welfare but hey buying something for 500 USD is apparently out of reach for them. Give me a break

>> No.4368062

>>4366492

>multiple

Just one, Animal Crossing/Forest. Pokemon Stadium 2 is sometimes listed as the other but it works fine, it just has a graphic bug where it doesn't display models in the Pokemon select.

>> No.4368069

>>4366318

The problem is buying the thing in the first place. The information you mentioned didn't come out until after it had been on sale for some time, the whole thing was merely a stunt to charge a ridiculous price for almost nothing.

>> No.4368108

Pirating on real hardware is really good for consoles, but for arcades you don't really have an option do you

>> No.4368287 [DELETED] 

>>4367793
BeLIEve whatever lie Trump feeds ya, but welfare people can't afford iPhones, let alone brand new 4KTV's or rare $500 games.

>> No.4368478

>>4368108
MVS Flashcart

>> No.4368480

I have a friend who uses one of those cheapo RetroDuo consoles to play his old S/NES carts (all his original consoles were lost a while ago). If he were to use the NES Everdrive, would that work for his system? I don't know much about these clone consoles and compatibility, but I'm trying to brainstorm a gift idea for him

>> No.4369202

>>4368069
Maybe he shouldn't have said anything but then again maybe people shouldn't have bought it hoping it would happen. The extra memory and features justify the extra price if you need those. If not, there's no point whatsoever. If some dumb kid bought it because he was convinced the $100 premium would let me some day play a $5 star fox game I ain't gonna shed a tear for him.

>> No.4369468

>>4368478
slow as fuck, not worth your money
the two mvs flash carts are slow as fuck, $450 us dollars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bmXLPSwJfw

>> No.4369709

>>4361926
>I can't understand the concept of something being part of a whole

>> No.4369806

>>4369709
OUCH MY ASS~!

>> No.4369827

>>4361073
In my opinion, as long as it gives you 100% of the library, it is worth it.

I specifically only buy consoles I can easily pirate things for.

>> No.4369830

>>4369827
this, besides it isn't like flashcarts come close to tape loading times

>> No.4369835

Does anyone know if there is a Master System flashcart that can play FM WITHOUT any mods? And if not, is there one that can play FM on a FM modded Master System?

>> No.4369838

>>4361369
Pokemon Stadium 2 works on the E64 V3. I can't find anything about Animal Forrest

>> No.4369841

>>4368478
Neo Geo barely represents the whole arcade library out therr.

>> No.4369846

>>4362992
The GBA and DS are 3.3 volt anyway so you shouldn't have that console-damaging problem with those (though the Supercard DSTWO draws a whole lot of power and really runs down a 3ds battery in sleep mode).

I'd just avoid the cheap NES, Mega Drive and GBC repros/multicarts, they often use 3.3v flash with no level shifters, not even a diode to drop the voltage, no capacitors, no gold plating on the connectors either.