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I want to emulate Soul Reaver and a couple other dreamcast games, whats the best emulator /vr/ ?

>> No.4354589

>>4354561
Demul

/thread

>> No.4354590

>>4354561
nullDC is what I use. Not sure it's the best though. Might wanna Chankast, DEmul, DreamEMU, and Icarus.

>> No.4354884

>>4354561
Buy a dreamcast and burn the games on cds. 100x better than using a shit emulator.

>> No.4354936

>>4354589
This. Save states finally work with the latest version which really help with soul reaver's retarded save system

>> No.4354978

>>4354884
>burn the games on cds.
Enjoy your compressed or missing assets.

>> No.4354982

>>4354884
>Poorfag detected
Buy a better PC to run DC emulation better. Buying a Dreamcast & burning CD's are a waste of time.

>> No.4355078

>>4354589
shit tier
>>4354590
Can confirm, Soul Reaver 1 runs flawlessly on NulLDC.

>> No.4355237

>>4354982
Are you retarded? You can emulate a dreamcast on a fucking toaster. How lazy do you have to be to think that buying a dreamcast and spending 3 minutes burning a game takes too long?

>> No.4355245

>>4354978

You have no idea what you are talking about.

>> No.4355250

>>4355237
NullDC may run SOME games on toasters under certain configurations, Demul is pretty processor heavy though, you'll need at least a 4ghz.

>> No.4355261

reicast any good?

>> No.4355267

>>4355250
I'm down to a toaster and I'm tired of waiting for Shenmue HD.
How good is Shenmue on a toaster?

>> No.4355272

>>4354561
Whatever can run at more than 15 fps on the phone you're using.

>> No.4355285

>>4355267
You should be fine.

>> No.4355308

>>4355285
Shenmue's a pretty big game so I wasn't sure. I'll give it a shot.

>> No.4355310

>>4355245
He's not wrong. Many games had to be cut down because they don't fit on even the biggest CD-R.

>> No.4355317

>>4355310
Yep the bootleg Sonic Adventure 2 is missing the Japanese voices and the fmv movies when tails escapes the prison, etc are horribly compressed to the point you can barely see what's going on in them.
Also bootleg Garou MotW has twice as long loading times because in the original GD-rom the data was distributed differently to minimize laser seeking.

>> No.4355331

usb gdrom.

Honestly even though you can emulate, you can get a DC really cheap, like under $30 if you keep your eyes open. Get an early model that plays off CDRs and you'll be golden.

I got a usb gdrom and honestly love it. It's not cheap, but it works fucking well.

>> No.4355350

>>4355308
Super optimized big game. People had problems ripping assets with emulator because the game engine would cull anything you couldn't see pretty quickly.

>> No.4355351

>>4355350
Color me impressed.

>> No.4355386

>>4354884
This.
It's cool to own the actual system.

>> No.4355392

>>4354884
I'm glad they're really cheap, and I've been considering doing this and I've got a damn pretty CRT that'll look great for DC, but the question is why are Dreamcasts so inexpensive?

>> No.4355395

>>4355310
>Many
That's a big stretch. There's a few worth getting retail copies for, like D2. bestrip8discslmaooooooo

>> No.4355397

>>4355310
Are Shenmue, Seaman, or Sword of the Berserk safe?

>> No.4355401

>>4355310
What the hell kind of superdisks did Dreamcast use?

>> No.4355423

>>4355401
GDI which are able to store exactly 1 Gigabyte vs the 750megabytes in a regular CD

>> No.4355430

>>4355423

700, not 750.

>> No.4355432

>>4355392

I think it's cause it wasn't ever popular here. It's the same gen as ps2 . You can pick up ps2 for almost no money too. They aren't "retro" enough for hipsters yet.

I'm the same anon who posted about usb gdrom, I wish to hell ps1 had something similar that didn't use a serial port. Maybe someday.

>> No.4355472

>>4354884
Which dreamcasts burn games?
I'm more than willing to pay for an original copy since a lot of them are cheap enough, but at the same time there are just some games I want to try out or are ridiculously high.

>> No.4355494

>>4355237
No, what's retarded is burning CD's to play Dreamcast games when you could just use your PC to play Dreamcast games on an emulator. You'll save yourself at least $70.

>> No.4355497

Anyone familiar with DC netplay? I'd like to play Project Justice vs humans.

>> No.4355501

>>4355494
>100 pack of CD-Rs are about 20 bucks
>you can get a complete Dreamcast with a memory card and a free game for as low as 20 bucks if you play your cards right

That's 40 dollars maximum.

>> No.4355538

>>4355501
Doesn't matter. Even $40 is a waste of money for a 18 year old system & a stack of CD-R's. Hence why I emulate all old game consoles on my PC.

>> No.4355642

>>4355538
Must suck to be poor. 40 is change.

>> No.4355654

>>4355642
I'm not the one pirating games using CD-R's, instead of actual physical discs. PC's are more than capable of emulating old consoles like the Sega Genesis, Dreamcast, N64, Sega Saturn or Super Nintendo. Why should I have to bring out any of my old game systems when I can play them on PC? At least my copies of the games are real. Poorfags like you can't afford a decent PC that can emulate Dreamcast, nor could you afford actual Dreamcast discs.

>> No.4355790

>>4355654
>At least my copies of the games are real.
By your definition that's wasted money.

>> No.4355798

>>4355654
You can't emulate everything, even popular titles like Jet Set Radio has problems.

>> No.4355809

>>4355654
>Poorfags like you
This is a cry of a struck nerve

>> No.4355923

>>4355654
>emulates dc on a pc
>my copies of the games are real
You're not fooling anyone kiddo

>> No.4356340

>>4355809
The guy he responded to called him a poorfag first.

>> No.4356356

>>4355538
>>>/v/
go back

>> No.4356554
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>>4354561
I'd recommend Demul as well
I tried using NullDC but when I tested it with Shenmue, something very screwy happened with the control mapping. I can't describe it too well since I never figured out what the problem was but I'd swear that one minute you'd have to use the d-pad to move Ryo and the next minute it'd be the analog sticks and then the same buttons would then move the camera to first person.

That being said, Demul isn't perfect. The main problem is that the Dramcast's cult status means that it just doesn't have the popularity of other consoles so programmers would rather work on others. People would be much more receptive to have PCSX2 running as smoothly as Dolphin than getting a good DC emulator.

>> No.4356710

>>4354884
All Dreamcast consoles are ticking time bombs

GD-Rom lasers are designed to fail early and the supply is limited.

>> No.4356781

>>4356340
Sure and his instant response was NO U
It was cute

>> No.4356795

>>4355790
>By your definition that's wasted money.
Not really anon. As they're getting more & more valuable on ebay. I bought Power Stone 2 for $3 at a thrift store. It sells for about $80 on ebay. Most of my Dreamcast games were bought brand new, thus allowing developers/publishers to make money from the games they made, which eventually led to them creating sequels for certain games(House Of The Dead, Sonic Adventure, Shenmue, Power Stone, Soul Calibur)...you can all thank people like me for buying it new.

>>4355798
That's why updates are created for emulators.

>>4355809
Nah, I'm pretty sure it's the reverse. I simply spoke the truth.

>>4355923
I don't care what you think. I spoke the truth.

>>4356356
LOL You console fags getting butt-hurt over me emulating console games? At least my physical copies remain safe, unlike you careless moronic idiots scratching your discs or dropping it.

>> No.4356810

>>4355261
Not really

>> No.4356820

>>4354561
I'm pretty sure that the best emulator is SNES9X, if we disregard the games that you want to play.

>> No.4356831

>>4356554
Redream is showing potential, lets see how it develops over the next couple of years

>> No.4356853

>>4356795
>emubaby keeps pretending he owns original games
>for what reason?

>> No.4356861
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4356861

>Burn a bunch of DC games
>play a bunch, save progress
>everything is going good
>except Sega Marine Fishing
>Save game, it shows as being saved to VMU, looks fine
>next time I play, always 16/16 brand new save file
Is it possible a bad image is causing this? Every other burnt game I'm using works without issues, all save files are fine, Sega Marine Fishing seems to be the only game with save issues.

>> No.4356863

>>4354884
Please dont waste your money. I havent found a working dreamcast in nearly a year.

>> No.4356869

>>4356863
I should point out that i work in a game shop and that I see then come in once a month. Just emulate.

>> No.4357071
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4357071

>>4356853
Except you're wrong. The proof is in pic related. All I had to do was grab my games from out of the box, stack them up & take a picture. How's it feel to be wrong and retarded, anon?

>> No.4357091

>>4356710
https://www.videogameperfection.com/2017/06/20/dreamcast-gdrom-review/

poorfags need not apply.

>> No.4357095

>>4356863

I got 2 with all hookups and 5 controllers for $60 shipped. Both work perfectly.

>> No.4357098

>>4357071

Anon casually posts his semen along with his stack of games...

seaman... how is it? I've been looking to pick up a copy.

>> No.4357106

>>4357098
It's an awesome game. I remember when I was 19, I was mind blown by the fact that I'm talking to a virtual fish on my Dreamcast.

>> No.4357357

>>4357071
But you don't play those asshat. You play shit you downloaded. And that "collection" just shows how desperate you are to own real shit. And also how destitute you are.

>> No.4357368

>>4357071
>a few shitty games
WOW

>> No.4357376

>>4357071
>some really bad games
I'm sorry that you paid money for those.

>> No.4357410

>>4356795
>paying 3 dollars for a game you can play for free
Your self consciousness it making you look pathetic as hell. Keep going.

>> No.4357507

>>4357357
>But you don't play those
Except you're wrong because I do play those games.

>asshat.
Sounds like I struck a nerve in you. LOL

>You play shit you downloaded.
>And that "collection" just shows how desperate you are to own real shit.
>And also how destitute you are.
LOL You sound really angry at the fact that I play these games on an emulator & own physical copies(including owning the actual consoles). You're also angry at the fact that I don't use these discs & cartridges on my consoles anymore Why would I? My games & my consoles will remain safe. I've had this collection since the time I was 8 when they were brand new. It's not even my whole collection, I still got games inside my boxes. You're just mad that I have a real collection & that I play these games on the comfort of my own PC.

>>4357368
>>4357376
Few bad games? Like what? WWF Warzone/Attitude, & Mortal Kombat Gold? I really don't give a shit, I love these games, plus I bought those games I mentioned were brand new when I bought them & I don't regret it because I love wrestling & I love Mortal Kombat.

>>4357410
>Complaining about me spending $3 on an $80 game.
>Calls me "pathetic"
>Is too broke to spend $3.
>Prefers to play games for free.
$3 must be too expensive for you or you're jealous that I owned the game for that much. LOL I didn't even download this game until after I owned a physical copy. I'm glad I bought Power Stone 2 for that much because it's worth $80 on ebay. I didn't even have a clue how much it was worth when I saw it & bought it. Stay mad anon.

>> No.4357615

>>4357507
Bullshit. You play shit you downloaded. Checksum of the rips you made or STFU. You're an emubaby who desperately wishes you could afford to play on real hardware but has only managed to scrape together a few random carts and discs from thrift stores. So sad.

>> No.4357783

>>4357095
I'm talking about units that people bring in to trade. We have a copy of Space Channel 5 that we bought brand new and use specifically to test consoles. In the last year or so, every Dreamcast people try to trade in has been unable to boot the disc. We thought it was the disc but it boots on both of my dreamcasts as well as the store owners so these things really are dying en masse and its terrifying.

>> No.4357789

>>4357783
>>4357095

I myself have also bought a few duds off the internet in my time (wanted a sega sports black unit) and this was years ago. I lucked out finding a good one at a swap meet along with the one my parents bought me when it was current.

>> No.4358412
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4358412

>>4357615
>You're an emubaby who desperately wishes you could afford to play on real hardware
Oh how wrong you truly are. LOL Consolefags like you will never learn. I do own & play on real hardware. I just prefer emulation. Here's part 1 of 2 of the proof I own real hardware.

>> No.4358416
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4358416

>>4357615
Here's part 2 of 2 of my proof.

>but has only managed to scrape together a few random carts and discs from thrift stores.
Not many thrifts carry the games I've bought years ago. Not even that reproduction copy of Lobo for the Sega Genesis, which I bought from Etsy. So again, how's it feel to be wrong & making a fool out of yourself?

>> No.4358425
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4358425

>>4358412

Nice hardware, but next time remember: just ignore the faggots. The fact he bothered you enough that you felt you had to post *anything* for his sorry little neurotic ass means that, in some sense, he won.

>> No.4358435

>>4358425
>Nice hardware, but next time remember: just ignore the faggots.
Thanks.

> The fact he bothered you enough that you felt you had to post *anything* for his sorry little neurotic ass means that, in some sense, he won.
Actually I posted the pics of the hardware I own because I felt it was a great opportunity to show off the consoles I have. Proving him wrong is just a bonus.

>> No.4358439

>>4358435

>Actually I posted the pics of the hardware I own because I felt it was a great opportunity to show off the consoles I have.

Well, okay then. Just to let you know: I jelly. Most of those consoles are what I'd want to own.

>> No.4358443

>>4358439
I'm sure you'll own those consoles too someday. Even if you have to buy them one at a time.

>> No.4358531

>>4358412
>>4358416
gg no re

>> No.4359246

>>4354561
Demul
>>4354884
Don't do this. The audio and graphics are downsampled heavily in order to fit them on a CD. They sound awful.
>>4355261
No
>>4355401
GD-Rom
>>4356831
That's what they said about Reicast. Redream is a Pipedream

>> No.4359257

>>4356831
no. It's shittier than reicast which is a pile of shit itself

>> No.4359326

>>4358412
So confirmed you emulate shit you downloaded on your PC. Confirmed you're a poor emubaby trying desperately to fit on with the real hardware crowd.
How exactly does any of this prove me wrong if it's what I've been saying all along?
BTW, bragging about that Lobo repro really speaks to the essence of what you are.

>> No.4359335

>>4359326
m8, you got rekt.

>> No.4359353

OK, let's flip the question a bit, /vr/troopers: why *would* there be a decent Dreamcast emulator? Am I missing something, or wouldn't you have to drag half of fucking Windows in along with it in the form of WinCE?

I dunno, maybe you could somehow leverage work from the WINE project.

>> No.4359362

>>4359353
WinCE games are mostly Visual Novels and they have been recently emulated.

http://segaretro.org/Windows_CE

>> No.4359410

>>4359326
>B-but you're a emubaby!!!
>B-but you don't own original hardware!!!
>B-but you don't own physical copies of games!!!
>B-but you got those games at a thrift store!!!
Dude, it's over. I won. You lost. Get over it, crybaby. LOL

>> No.4359464

>>4358412
>I just prefer emulation
Jesus Christ fuck off to /v/.

>> No.4359537

>>4359410
You already admitted you emulate and get stuff in thrift stores. Posting your thrift store finds and a few things you got on ebay doesn't make you anything more than the wannabe I said you are. Tell yourself it an't true and you "won" if it makes you feel better but deep down you know what you are.

>> No.4359620

>>4359464
>Angry consolefag detected
There's nothing wrong with emulating old outdated hardware.

>>4359537
>You already admitted you emulate
That doesn't mean I don't play on original hardware. I still use my N64, Dreamcast & Playstation for one simple reason. Game Shark.

>get stuff in thrift stores.
Not true. I only said I got Power Stone 2 from a thrift store. It's not my fault I managed to get a good deal out of that transaction, while you're screwed on getting a copy because $80 is too much for you.

>Posting your thrift store finds
>a few things you got on ebay doesn't make you anything more than the wannabe I said you are
False. The majority of my games were bought brand new. WWF No Mercy & Wrestlemania 2000 are proof of that since I have them in their original boxes in a protective sleeve. Even my Batman Sega Genesis suffers from wear and tear because I've had it since 1990, which is probably older than you. And my Lobo Sega Genesis game was bought at Etsy, not Ebay. Since Lobo was never released, I had no choice but to buy the Genesis reproduction copy to complete my Lobo collection. The only wannabe here is you. LOL

>Tell yourself it an't true and you "won" if it makes you feel better but deep down you know what you are.
Says the loser who can't accept defeat nor can admit that you're wrong on every single level of this debate. LOL

PC Master Race > Consolefags who hate emulation

>> No.4361092

>>4359537
It's an anonymous message board, bro. It's okay to admit defeat.

>> No.4361220

>>4354978
Is there a list of games that get messed up when you burn them onto a disc?
I'm asking this because in a few days I'm getting a Dreamcast so this would be nice to know.
Is Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 safe?

>> No.4361252

>>4361220
Most releases say what's been ripped in the nfo.
Ikaruga (NTSC-J)
----------------
Ripped: Nothing.
Downsampled: Nothing.
Source: GD dump.

>> No.4361368

>>4361252
I'm looking at isozone (is this the site?) and it says that MvC 1 has no issues, but I can't find a version of 2 without any music mods attached to it.