/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4335887]

any reason to own one

[Anonymous No.4335889]

>>4335887

[Anonymous No.4335893]

>>4335887
Panzer Dragoon Saga.
Never ported, never will be ported because Sega lost it

[Anonymous No.4335912]

>>4335887
Plenty. House Of The Dead, Daytona USA, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Virtual On, Nights, Fighting Vipers, Fighters Megamix, Virtua Cop, Mr. Bones, Clockwork Knight and so many other titles.

[Anonymous No.4335924]

>>4335912
Out of those, the only exclusives are PDS, Megamix, Mr. Bones and Clockwork Knights. Everything else has superior versions available elsewhere - in fact for some of them the Saturn versions are by far the worst ones to play (Daytona, HOTD).

Clockwork has great visuals for a 32-bit platformer and a good soundtrack, but the game is a very boring generic platformer.

Mr. Bones is a bad game but had a charm in how extremely weird it is, and again it has great music. RIP Ronnie Montrose.

PDS and Fighters Megamix are both stellar though, no argument about that.

[Anonymous No.4335927]

Having been alive (and conscious) back in the 90s
It makes certain people on /vr/ jealous.

There's 2.

[Anonymous No.4335934]

>>4335887
to play saturn games

[Anonymous No.4335964]

best console for 2d arcade ports and many of its exclusive titles will probably never get ported or the ports that have been done are pretty shoddy (NiGHTS)

[Anonymous No.4335972]

>>4335887
If you've never had one before, you're missing out on tons of great games.

[Anonymous No.4336008]

>>4335887
Panzer Dragoon (all of them), NiGHTS (mostly only matters to people who play it seriously, otherwise the PS2/PC version is okay), Bulk Slash (must play), Gungriffon, a version of Wipeout 1 with better collisions (20fps though), Burning Rangers (it's just okay, but it is exclusive), and I'm missing a handful of things, but not too much.. Loads of other stuff has ports elsewhere that are better.

if you can't be arsed to get those better ports (laziness, cost, etc), Saturn's got a bunch of good shit beyond that still
and I still enjoy some Saturn ports despite the accessibility of others (like, I still play VO on Saturn despite being able to play it on PS2)

also, there's fucking ninpen manmaru lol, which just becomes stupid obnoxious by the third stage with some of the most annoyingly fiddly 3D platforming I've had the misfortune to experience
it almost controls well and has fairly decent visuals for the system, though, so it's still worth a mention

bulk slash and panzer dragoon are basically the best reasons to own a Saturn though

[Anonymous No.4336012]

>>4335887
Not really, 15 worthile games and the rest is arcade perfect ports

[Anonymous No.4336018]

>>4336012
>arcade perfect ports

Not even arcade perfect, just "great for their time".

[Anonymous No.4336043]

>>4336018
Not that guy but the ST-V stuff are perfect.

[Anonymous No.4336052]

>>4335887
Pick one up before prices sky rocket(they will sooner or later) and wait for translators to finally shit out Princess Crown,Langrisser3,5,Terra Phantastica etc.

[Anonymous No.4336075]

>>4336018
no, there are tons of legitimately arcade perfect ports on the system, especially if you've got the ram expansions

[Anonymous No.4336095]

>>4336018
They're honestly great still today.
I'd rather play Vampire Savior or SFA3 on Saturn with all the extra options than the vanilla arcade games.
They're not "arcade perfect" from a technical standpoint because of minor resolution and sound differences, but the game itself plays the same as on arcade, with all the animations and hitboxes intact.
Some SNK ports like Real Bout Special are also arcade perfect as far as I know, and that uses only 1MB of extra RAM (the only drawback is loading times, but being Saturn, the load times are faster, and certainly faster than Neo Geo CD).

[Anonymous No.4336097]

>>4335924
>Clockwork has great visuals for a 32-bit platformer and a good soundtrack, but the game is a very boring generic platformer.
Play Clockwork 2, the level design is improved upon significantly.

[Anonymous No.4336104]

>>4335887
>not buying one for Radiant Silvergun and Cotton Boomerang

nigga

do you even shmup

saturn is the best 5th gen system

[Anonymous No.4336108]

Saturn has one of the holy trinity of 3D rail shooters: Panzer Dragoon II Zwei.
N64 has the other two.

[Anonymous No.4336115]

>>4336108
Star Fox 64 is massively overrated. Give the holy trinity to Planet Harriers, Sin & Punishment and PD2.

[Anonymous No.4336121]

>>4336115
>Planet Harriers
Is it emulatable? Fucking Sega not porting many of its arcade games.
I never played it so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and I'm sure it's good since it's Sega.
But I think SF64 is correctly rated, it has tons of replay value, great design and controls.

[Anonymous No.4336142]

>>4335924
Most of the games I listed are exclusives. Unless you're talking about non-retro re-releases. I own HOTD for one reason, because I already have HOTD2, 3, 4 and Overkill. If I'm going to have a game with a number "2" in it, I may as well get the first game as well. Which is what I did with Street Fighter(by buying Street Fighter The Movie for Sega Saturn).

[Anonymous No.4336147]

>>4336121
>Is it emulatable?
Yes on Demul, but it's not full speed.

[Anonymous No.4336152]

>>4336104
I still think the PS1 is better but one has to take into context that the Saturns 1998-2000 library was massively culled due to the announcement of the Dreamcast nevertheless way better than the N64 definetly

[Anonymous No.4336157]

>>4335887
Playing video games.

[Anonymous No.4336163]

>>4336152
>nevertheless way better than the N64 definetly
I thinkthey are complementary, I enjoy both Saturn and N64 more than PS nowadays.

[Anonymous No.4336167]

If my working Saturn and both back ups all died on me I would buy another even if it was only for Legend of Oasis.

[Anonymous No.4336168]

I never saw a Saturn until I got my own.

I don’t know if anyone else here had the same story.

[Anonymous No.4336169]

>>4336163
Maybe because you exhausted the PSX's library and are bored of its games now, while N64 and Saturn has more hidden gems you missed.

[Anonymous No.4336175]

>>4336169
To be honest, there are still PS games I haven't played that I want, but I've played most of the must plays and some share of hidden jaymes as well.
PS is fine, but I find that my favorite 5th gen games, like top tier, are mostly Saturn and N64 games.

[Anonymous No.4336179]

>>4336169
> exhausted the PSX's library
Not >>4336163 I doubt that though the PS1 still has plenty of NTSC-J exclusive hidden gems most folks have not played.

[Anonymous No.4336180]

>>4335893
thats not a reason to own one if most people are never going to be willing to shell out 400+ dollars for a single game.

[Anonymous No.4336181]

>>4336180
Just pirate it

[Anonymous No.4336182]

>>4336168
same.

[Anonymous No.4336186]

>>4336168
I have never seen a Saturn,and I have only seen 1 Genesis since I was a kid

[Anonymous No.4336187]

>>4336181
dont know how/dont want to fuck up my new saturn's disc drive so soon playing burned discs like dreamcasts

[Anonymous No.4336190]

>>4336181
This.

[Anonymous No.4336191]

>>4336187
Sucks to be you then. It's still a great reason to have a Saturn.

[Anonymous No.4336202]

>>4336187
Buy JVC Taiyo Yuden and Mitsubishi CHEMICAL Corps branded discs and that's a non problem really. I have a Hong Kong Saturn I have owned since 1997 and it's troopering on despite mostly just playing pirated games since I got it

>dont know how
Buy a Action Replay 4in1 on Aliexpress and do the swap trick once and flash pseudo Saturn to the cart and there you go.

[Anonymous No.4336205]

>>4336202
that all went way over my head i just pop in discs and play them, you know? i do have a 4in1 action replay 4m plus btw, if thats what i need to do this.

[Anonymous No.4336206]

>>4336180
It's two different questions. A reason to own one vs a reason to buy one in 2017. If you're poor though, why would you collect Saturn games?

[Anonymous No.4336207]

>>4336187
I agree with you. You don't want to risk screwing up the disc drive. But these idiots are willing to because they don't know better. There's no point in burning discs when they can just emulate or at least get a modded Sega Saturn or Dreamcast to read off a mircoSD card.

[Anonymous No.4336212]

>>4336207
>You don't want to risk screwing up the disc drive.
Don't use shitty MAXELL discs and awful rips simple as that.

[Anonymous No.4336218]

>>4336207
>claims people don't know any better for playing backups on Saturn
>reccommends Saturn emulation

[Anonymous No.4336220]

>>4336207
>pop out cd drive
>pop in ode
"""""""""""Mod"""""""""""

[Anonymous No.4336223]

MUH LENS

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20171018141610&SearchText=JVC+Optima-6S

[Anonymous No.4336225]

>>4336212
Or maybe I'll just use a flashcart that reads my microSD, instead of running burned discs.

[Anonymous No.4336229]

>>4336225
But then you are not using the disc drive at all so who gives a fuck might as well just jack off to it.

[Anonymous No.4336276]

>>4336218
Your reading comprehension fails you.

>>4336229
>But you're not using the disc drive at all
You sound like a cry baby. There's no need to use a disc drive if you run it off a modded Sega Saturn or simply just use Mednafen on your PC.

[Anonymous No.4336279]

>>4336276
>reading comprehension
You said "risking" the drive by using CD-Rs on the real hardware is worse than emulation, what is he failing to comprehend?

[Anonymous No.4337947]

>>4335887
Plenty. I have a couple saturns and about 100 games, missing some I still can't afford but you know.

[Anonymous No.4337961]

>>4336202
>Buy JVC Taiyo Yuden and Mitsubishi CHEMICAL Corps
Wheres a good place to buy this?

[Anonymous No.4338190]

>>4337961
Ebay stock up on the JVC Taiyo Yudens because their entire operation was sold to some shitty chink corporation

[Anonymous No.4338205]

Cutest Saturn model

[Anonymous No.4338749]

>>4338205
>that aesthetic violet-colored logo on the disc tray

[Anonymous No.4338798]

>>4335887
Mostly great arcade ports. Get a Japanese one; the games are cheaper and have way nicer cases and cover arts. Also, Sega Rally is one of the greatest games ever made and the Saturn version adds new content and CD audio to compensate for the graphical downgrade from the arcade ver.

[Anonymous No.4338801]

>>4338798
Is sega rally really that good? I never looked into it but it can't be too much different than a stripped down gran turismo 2, yeah?

Or am I vastly naive?

[Anonymous No.4338810]

>>4336142
>Unless you're talking about non-retro re-releases.

Which also count. Otherwise you'd be calling Puyo Puyo Fever a Dreamcast exclusive despite being ported to every system under the sun from the Xbox to the N-gage.

[Anonymous No.4338818]

>>4338801
It's nothing like Gran Turismo. It's an arcade racer that you can play all the way through in about four minutes but every playthrough is so satisfying because the controls, music, and track designs are 10/10. The only arcade-style racer that rivals Sega Rally is R4 on the PS1.

[Anonymous No.4338819]

>>4338810
Puyo Puyo was released for the Sega Genesis under a different name. Dr.Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine.

[Anonymous No.4338837]

Because i own one since in 96 for Virtua Fighter1 and 2, Sonic Jam, Nights and Guardian Heroes.

[Anonymous No.4339461]

>>4338190
>>4337961
>>4336276
Just use whatever CD-R's you can find. What's more important is the images you want too burn.

[Anonymous No.4339606]

>>4335887
mid 90s arcade games, if you do not enjoy these than stick to your mobas and fps kiddo.

[Anonymous No.4339673]

Reasons:

1. You can't emulate the damn thing that well. (Spare me your SSF meme anon)
2. When you perfect the swap trick you can install Pseudo Saturn Kai on an Action Replay and have infinity free games

[Anonymous No.4339685]

>>4339673
>1. You can't emulate the damn thing that well.
Mednafen/Beetle Saturn is coming along nicely.

[Anonymous No.4340171]

Die Hard Arcade

[Anonymous No.4340185]

It has the coolest bios/CD audio visuals

[Anonymous No.4340429]

>>4339685
Too bad you need a high-end CPU to run it decently.

[Anonymous No.4340436]

>>4340429
Give it time, the psx core used to be brutally slow too.

[Anonymous No.4340570]

>>4340429
Not in my experience. Runs just fine on my old Phenom II shitbox.

[Anonymous No.4340607]

>>4340429
>Too bad you need a high-end CPU to run it decently.

My Athlon 64 could run SSF at full speed in 2005.

[Anonymous No.4340610]

> tfw have two Sega saturns at my family's house
> killed the drives on both with the swap trick

I even have a rgb to component cable to go with it. It's fucking great, but I haven't played a real saturn in years now.

[Anonymous No.4341775]

>>4336012
saturn arcade ports were about as far away from arcade perfect as you can go.

[Anonymous No.4341784]

>>4335887
If you have to ask, no

[Anonymous No.4341785]

>>4341775
nigga what
at the very least the ST-V ports were literally perfect since the hardware is the same, and many 2D arcade games got perfect or near-perfect conversions to the saturn

[Anonymous No.4341792]

>>4341785
maybe you weren't aware, but sega at the time had a very popular arcade business involving 3d hardware, all of which were butchered when ported to the saturn.

[Anonymous No.4341795]

>>4341792
sure, but when someone mentions arcade perfect ports on the saturn they generally mean the 2D ones since that's what the system is best known for

[Anonymous No.4341798]

>>4341795
>2D ones since that's what the system is best known for
maybe if you lived in japan cuz nobody cared about that shit in america.

[Anonymous No.4341803]

>>4341798
I mean now, years after release, on this retro video game board

[Anonymous No.4341912]

>>4341798
Shut up Bernie.

[Anonymous No.4341917]

>>4335887
Am I the only one who finds the Black Saturns to be ugly?

[Anonymous No.4341921]

Which Saturn revision do you own /vr/?

http://nannanseisaturn.web.fc2.com/segasaturn/

[Anonymous No.4341951]

So is it possible to buy the games then rip them then play them with the beetle saturn emu thing?

[Anonymous No.4341953]

>>4335887

[Anonymous No.4341961]

>>4341951

Possible, but pointless. Considering http://redump.org exists.

[Anonymous No.4342290]

>>4341921
HST 3200 Tokai Denshi BC50 and HST 3220 Seiyo Denshi B65.

[Anonymous No.4342558]

>>4341775
If Saturn ports are "as far away from arcade perfect as you can go", what's left for PS1 ports?
It exceeds the limits of how far away you can go? But then, what about stuff like ZX Spectrum ports?
So many questions.

[Anonymous No.4342561]

>>4342558

[Anonymous No.4342565]

>>4341961
>Possible, but pointless. Considering http://redump.org exists.

They don't offer game downloads and their rips are bad anyway.

[Anonymous No.4342568]

>>4342561
>one major sign of autism is inability to understand sarcasm

[Anonymous No.4342859]

>>4335887
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[Anonymous No.4343271]

I just picked up a Saturn, all the cables, a controller and an action replay 4m plus for $90 at a local gaming con today.
I'm pretty excited, especially since the 4m p allows me to run backups after some tweaks.
What are some good games I should be getting here once I sit down long enough to get it running?

[Anonymous No.4343287]

>>4341953
I just found out that salad tossing is analingus and not the act of juggling someone's balls on your tongue

[Anonymous No.4343303]

Panzer Dragoon Saga
A Clockwork Knights
Nights into Dreams
Sonic 3D (better soundtrack)

[Anonymous No.4343425]

>>4336168
I found one at a thrift store and was like "wtf is this"
got it for 20 and have loved it ever since

[Anonymous No.4343601]

>>4343271
With the Action Replay, I pick up any Japanese shooter or fighter. Some favorites of mine are Darius Gaiden and Vampire Hunter. Any Capcom fighter is good on it. Galaxy Fight and Galactic Attack are fun too

[Anonymous No.4343603]

>>4342561
You don't need to warn us about your mental status anon, it's clear.

[Anonymous No.4343902]

>>4335972
sonic R isn't sonic team

[Anonymous No.4343958]

>>4335893
Maybe, but Microsoft reverse engineered phantom dust so it's possible to do if Sega gets some super talented guys.

[Anonymous No.4343990]

>>4343958
that would be a substantial investment for a niche game that wouldn't sell many copies

[Anonymous No.4344016]

>>4335972
This is pretty impressive. Wish more recommend lists were in video

[Anonymous No.4344049]

>>4343990
And phantom dust is free.

[Anonymous No.4344052]

>>4344049
microsoft has more money than sega.

[Anonymous No.4344059]

>>4335887
not a single one. people are just hyping it up to sell off their shit

just emulate, it has some gems

[Anonymous No.4344060]

>>4344052
Have more, yes. Losing more, also yes.

[Anonymous No.4344065]

>>4344060
microsoft gave away an operating system. sega wouldn't rehire a dub actor because he was in a union.

[Anonymous No.4344130]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ecCiHqn1U

[Anonymous No.4344441]

>>4341917
Grey is definitely where it's at.

[Anonymous No.4344538]

>>4344059
>people are just hyping it up to sell off their shit
Implying I'd sell any of my Saturn stuff, lol. You wish.
Stay jell.

[Anonymous No.4344762]

>>4344441
I prefer the white one or as the japs designated it mist gray

[Anonymous No.4345437]

>tfw all you could find at a con was a shitty ripoff light gun that you could only find evidence for after 20 minutes of looking on an old ebay listing from 2005.
Good thing I could get it for 5 I guess.