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ITT: little known tricks / alternate strategies / secrets

Not sure how widely known this one is but you can actually kill Bowser with hammers in Super Mario Bros. 3.

>> No.432384

>not specifically killing Bowser with hammers every time

>> No.432413

>>432384
>Not warping to world 8 from world 1 every time and thus being unable to kill him with hammers

>> No.432407

Using the Mew glitch in Pokemon generation 1... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkF7Xjxn9jc
But rather than battling the kid with the Slowpoke, try battling some other trainers in the same way, and then activate the "Mew" glitch like you normally would. You can get some pretty decent pokemon in Cerulean City, like Cubone, Lapras, Nidoqueen, Gengar, and more.
What's more interesting, is you could actually do this with every trainer in the game if you wanted to, and get special pokemon. I haven't tested them all out, but I've done every trainer in Cerulean, and the trainers on the way to Lt. Surge. Yeah, there's a lot of junk, like low level Butterfrees, and Pidgeys, but you can find some pretty interesting pokemon by doing this. The main advantage is that it allows you to get pokemon that you would normally only be able to get by trading, and it also allows you to get pokemon earlier than you'd normally be able to.

>> No.432569

There was a Super Mario Bros thread yesterday and a fact that blew my mind. in the 3rd stage of every world, if you get all the coins, that is what enables you to get the 1up in the next world, if you dont warp

>> No.432607

>>432569
>in the 3rd stage of every world, if you get all the coins, that is what enables you to get the 1up in the next world

Huh?

I know about the special coin levels, like if you beat 1-4 and get a lot of coins, it gives you a white toad house, and you get a p-wing.

Is that what you're talking about, or something different?

>> No.432623

>>432607
I think he's trying to say "If you collect all the coins in world *-3 you "unlock" the hidden 1up block in the next world."

>> No.432647

>>432607
He means Super Mario Bros.1, not 3

>> No.432667

>>432623
>>432647

Ohhh. Ok.

>> No.432691
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432691

SotN
>Alucard can eat the peanuts
>Item-crashing some weapons with Richter can activate switches

>> No.432715

>>432349
Is there anything that can't be killed with hammers? I think you can also kill the fire jets with them, but don't quote me on that.

>> No.432726

>>432691
What's weird about eating peanuts?

>> No.432738

>>432726
I, for one thought you couldn't
thought it was some kind of gag item. then I found out how little hp they recover and realized I was correct.

>> No.432751

I guess it should be surprising that he is able to eat anything, what with being half vampire and all. If his body is technically "dead" then how does digestion work?

>> No.432772

>>432349
You can kill him with fucking fireballs if you want. Just like in SMB.

>> No.432768

>>432751
wolf form

>> No.432787

>>432569
It has nothing to do with coins. Only if you warped or not.

If you don't warp, you have many potential 1-ups from collecting coins throughout each world.

If you do warp, you will have missed a lot of coins, thus missing many 1-ups, which would have made the game a little more challenging.

>> No.432791

>>432738
Well, on a similar note, there's a sword in SotN which converts all items that enemies drop into valuable gems you can sell at the library. The sword also has a special attack that magically makes money scatter about when you swing. Unfortunately it's all in $1 coins.

>> No.432814

you can fill this thread up with SOTN secrets and there would still be stuff that went unmentioned

>> No.433125

>>432787

This seems to be the case because I warp and I find a hidden 1-up in 4-1 every time.

>> No.433146

>not just warping to 3-1 to get as many 1 ups as your little heart desires

>> No.433168

>>432787

No, it does have to do with coins. The 1up appearing in the level is directly dependent on collecting all the coins in stage 3 of the previous world. that is, if you dont warp.

you still get it if you warp, because you bypass stage 3. but if you play stage 3, you MUST collect all the coins or the 1up to appear in the next world

>> No.433180

>>432787
What's challenging about infinite continues?

>> No.433219

In Metroid you can skip Ridley and Kraid without glitching by bombing your way up from the sandpit. You do have to be good at bomb booting though.

>> No.433231

>>432349
In SMB3, the lower half of Bowser's body does no damage to the player. If you duck (or are small) you won't be harmed when he lands.

>> No.433240

>>432726
Unlike the other food items in SotN which get tossed on the floor, then walked into, Alucard throws the peanut up in the air.
You need to position yourself for the peanut to land in his mouth, whilst holding UP.
It actually recovers quite a fair amount more than other items, 50 HP compared to many food items.

>> No.433256

Does the fairy trick in ocarina of time actually work? the one where you touch a butterfly with a deku stick and it turns into a fairy? i have never gotten it to work.

>> No.433271

Using Items to escape Airman's chamber in MM2 teleports you to a glitched Wily stage 2.

>> No.433276

Both Ridley encounters in Super Metroid can end in two ways.

In Ceres Station, Ridley will flee, nearly dropping the hatchling if his health gets critical. He will leave if your health gets critical. Speed runners deliberately hurt themselves here because it's much faster.
In Deep Norfair, you can continue to attack Ridley until he dies, alternatively if he grabs you whilst his health is critical instead he will self destruct. Speed runners take advantage of that too.

The metroids in Tourian actually can be killed with their signature ice weakness, a pair of power bombs will also dispatch them successfully, meaning the ice beam is in fact optional (as Tourian is concerned)

>> No.433279

>>433271
Also a similar thing with Heat Man and Wily 1, I actually did it by accident the first time

>> No.433286

>>433256
It does, but it's really hard to pull off for some reason.

>> No.433460

>>433279
You don't even HAVE to use Items in the Heat Man boss room. You can do a precise jump at the exact moment when there's many objects on-screen (Heat Man's fire attack for example) and by a bit of luck, you will be teleported to the glitched Wily Stage 1. :3

>> No.433479

>>433256
I've only gotten it to work once or twice. Link's idle animation interferes with it too much.

>> No.433872

>>433276
>In Deep Norfair, you can continue to attack Ridley until he dies, alternatively if he grabs you whilst his health is critical instead he will self destruct. Speed runners take advantage of that too.

How exactly do you make this happen? Do you have to roll in to a ball, or what?

>> No.433905

>>433256

I can also confirm that this definitely DOES work.

>> No.433928

at the end of the levels in mario there are warp zones

>> No.433941

>>432787
Um. . . of course. . .

Maybe I'm not following. Someone pointed out to you that by not playing levels that have coins, you'd get fewer coins?

>> No.434036

>>433941
>Someone pointed out to you that by not playing levels that have coins, you'd get fewer coins?
Not him, but who really cares about coins? You need 100 for them for a 1-up. Knowing where the hidden 1-ups are is a far more effective strategy.

You know what an even better strategy is though? Being good at the game. 1-ups are for people who die. Admittedly, some of them are fun to try to get if they're challenging though. But as for people actually NEEDING them, what they should be more focused on is mastering the physics, so that they don't need the 1-ups.

>> No.435393

bump for night /vr/

>> No.435479

the stages in mega man and bass seem unfairly tailored towards Bass's double jump (making some segments extremely hard when playing as Mega Man), but you can just use Ice Wall from Cold Man to compensate and use it as a stepping stone/ artificial second jump.

>> No.435519

Metal blades will kill Metalman in one hit

>> No.435509

anyone have any tips on how to get past hammer bros in SMB? it often feels like a total crapshoot

even standing right next to them, under their hammer arcs, doesnt seem to work well, since they move back and forth

>> No.435570
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>> No.435654

>>435509

Even though they move back and forth, there is a pretty wide spot in front of them where can you stand and completely avoid them. That only really became a problem in SMB3, when the hammer bros. got wider, their hammers got bigger, and they threw them in a smaller arc.

The best thing to do (assuming you can't shoot them with fireballs) is run under them. Their jumps are timed very consistently.

>> No.435678

>>435479

Bass is so over powered compared to Mega Man in that game. His gun is better and his movements are far better.

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435705

The Sleepy Toadstool in Link's Awakening can instantly kill the boss of the color dungeon and final boss's first form.

The boomerang instantly kills the final boss's last form.

>> No.435724

In Megaman X5, Zero can actually get the heart tank in Crescent Grizzly's stage by getting the Hyper Dash, Shock Buffer (or Black Zero) and Jumper parts. Take a hit from an enemy shot when you're close to the spikes, and make a suicidal dash jump for it.

In Final Fantasy 9, you can get the Excalibur II if you reach the final dungeon in less than 12 hours, including time spent on cutscenes and loading.

In Zelda: Link's Awakening, you can fire bomb arrows by equipping both the arrow and the bomb and pressing A and B at the same time.

>> No.435728

>>435570
Heh, my brother found that room, and I never got into it. I know it's a catch-all bug-stop room to keep the game from crashing, but still.

>> No.435721
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435721

The Sleepy Toadstool in Link's Awakening can instantly kill the giant buzzblob miniboss in the color dungeon and final boss's first form.

The boomerang instantly kills the final boss's last form.

>> No.435729

>>435570
Ive never been able to get here. But, why was this in the game in the first place, and at what point in time did Chris get there?

>> No.435769

>>435724

The LA bomb arrow trick is incredibly hard to pull off in a consistent manner. A and B must be pushed at *exactly* same time, otherwise it's no good.

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>>435509

>> No.435786

>>435729
http://zeldawiki.org/Chris_Houlihan_Room

>> No.435782

>>432413

You can't warp to world 8 from 1 you fucking dumbass. There are only two goddamn whistles.

>> No.435806

>>435782

There's three

>> No.435812

>>435782
they're both in the first world, get the one behind the level and get the one in the castle. use one whistle, while on the map with all the warp tubes use it again and you're magically in the last world.

>> No.435820

>>435806

Yeah, and you can catch mew by the truck in pokemon.

>> No.435837

>>435812

What the fuck?

I always just beat world one and used one if I wanted to get to eight

World 1 is laughably easy anyways. It doesn't really even have a difficulty level other than bullshit retarded easy until you get to the ice world. I forget its number.

>> No.435849

>>435837
lol well im just explaining how warping from the first world to the last is possible.

>> No.435847

>>435509
There one really cheesy way to kill them: In the original SMB as long as Mario is falling he'll be able to stomp anything that he comes into contact with, even if he's not actually above it. You can abuse this against the Hammer Bros by waiting until they jump and then doing a short jump under them so that they fall on top of you while you're also falling. It kills them without having to worry about the hammers.

>> No.435864

>>435820
>>435812
>>435806
In world 2 on the far right there is a brick that is breakable to reveal the third whistle.

>> No.435909

In Link to the Past, draining the lake in a certain field will leave some fish flopping around.
It is reasonably well known that throwing the fish back into water will reward you with rupees, but you can take the long-winded route of carrying the fish to Kakariko village, then handing it to the bottle merchant, who gives you some random goodies in exchange like magic refills, bombs, arrows and rupees.

>> No.435927

>>435909
say whaaaaat, trying this shit right now

>> No.435957

>>435909
>>435927
how can you not know this?

>> No.435963

>>432349
Hey you! How about lending me your clothes? No dice? What a drag.

>> No.435982

>>435909
Holy shit! It worked!

>> No.436000

>>435957
Actually taking the fish all the way over to the village takes time and isn't something you'd discover by chance. You'd have to be REALLY curious.

>> No.436002

>>435957
Not him, but I've played that game for years and never ran across that or any mention of it.

Kinda neat.

>> No.436020

>>435957
Does the merchant ever mention about wanting fish in-game?

>> No.436026

>>436002
How about sprinkling magic powder on the anti-faeries (spinning skull enemies) to turn them into faeries?

That's a more obvious one, but how about sprinkling magic powder on the old lady sweeping the ground?

>> No.436129

>>436026
My god I am learning all kinds of awesome shit brb checking the old lady

btw post more while I have the cart in the snes.

>> No.436143

>>435779

I see...

>> No.436158

>>436129
Hmm, shit I dunno, trying to think.
I think most people by now know about reflecting Agahnim's fire using the bug catching net.

How about a glitch? Throwing a cucco at a bomb's explosion causes it to travel through solid walls.
Seems to work horizontally but not vertically.
A good place to try it is outside the smithy's place.

>> No.436241

Ninja Gaiden - one hit kill any boss in the game with Jump&Slash

Zelda 2 - easily beat Shadow Link by ducking in the left corner and repeatedly stabbing

>> No.436254

>>436129

You do know about the cucco that turns into a human when you sprinkle it, right?

>> No.436263

>>436241
>Zelda 2 - easily beat Shadow Link by ducking in the left corner and repeatedly stabbing

I think the normal method of beating Shadow Link is more obscure than this method.

>> No.436291

Does anyone know about the underwater boss intant kill in Super Metroid? If it grabs you and you use the grappling hook on the broken wall turrets, you electrocute him to death.

http://youtu.be/wuvqp28IqRE?t=9m16s<wbr>

>> No.436307

>>432349
Of all the crazy SMB3 shit you could have come across, this one seemed little known to you?

And here I am thinking that the secret in beating level 2-2 in 2 minutes 22 seconds is probably common knowledge.

>> No.436313

Fun little trick for Secret of Mana fans. Have a second player charge up a high level attack. The moment they unleash their attack open your own menu and swap your weapon with theirs. The other player will attempt to continue their attack using the moveset of whatever weapon you gave them.

>> No.436324

>>436291
Who doesn't know that one by now?

>>436307
I know that certain levels will spawn a special blue toad house, such as world 1-4 when you collect every coin possible.
These special toad houses give you an anchor item, which are only useful for stopping the airships from flying around the map though.

>> No.436337

>>435519
Only on gimped US "normal" mode.
true facts

>> No.436336

>>436291
There's actually a different quick kill for Draygon; quick charge the shinespark by stutterstepping and charge into him.

>> No.436343

>>436263
yeah I know, I couldn't really think of anything else though

>> No.436353

>>436337
Yeah, otherwise they're a two-hit kill, haha.

>>436336
Can't you also perform the blue suit glitch this way?

>> No.436371

super metroid,
you can avoid the first fight with the living chozo statue.

that's common knowledge now with so many speedruns, but i was recently surprised.

>> No.436383

>>436324
they don't always give you an anchor, it depends which world.

>> No.436386

I enjoy playing each level of a mario game.

>> No.436381

>>435570
Man, Chris must have been pretty fucking disappointed with his prize. Wasted all of that time trying to fight the Warmech to win the contest only to be briefly mentioned in a single sentence with zero context in a room you could only access if you fucked the game too hard and encountered a bug.

Then again, in retrospect, I'm sure he thinks it's pretty fucking cool to have his name in LTTP, but at the time I'm sure he was expecting more of an upfront mention of his name.

>> No.436379

>>436371
Is that possible on NTSC games or just PAL?

>> No.436398

In Sonic 2, you can avoid the Chemical Plant boss' attacks by ducking. Only as Sonic though, doing it as Tails or Knuckles will still get you hit.

>> No.436425

>>435678
He has more trouble with bosses though. He can only do one point of damage at a time, and the dash is not as good dodging maneuver as the slide.

>> No.436450

>>436425
You can get an upgrade that makes Bass do double damage per shot.

It turns all shots into charge shots basically.

>> No.436439

>>435729
It's a general fail-safe room. It exists in all regions.
You're transported there if there was an error, exiting it will lead always to link's house.

They just added "My name is Chris Houlihan" to the US version

>> No.436573

>>436450
Yeah, but while Bass is getting that Mega Man is getting an invincibility shield and the ability to refill his health.

>> No.436648

In Super Metroid, when you enter the mini boss Golden Torizo's room, hold A+B+X+Y as you enter the room. You'll get every item in the game except Screw Attack, plus a shitload of missiles, super missiles and power bombs. You have to go into the gear screen and take off one of your bottom two beams before lettings go of fire though, otherwise the game will crash due to the murder beam

>> No.436674

>>436648
If I'm not mistaken you need to hold A+B+X+Y whilst rolling into the room in morph ball form.