/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4319824]

This game is such shit. It sucked in 1997 and it sucks now. I shouldn't have to explain myself, but here we go:

>gameplay consists of mostly walking through wide open fields and empty dungeons. In the 2D Zedlas each screen was designed to be filled with enemies, puzzles, items to find, etc. Now you literally just run around with barely anything to do. The occasional enemies you do encounter are taken down with Z-Targeting like it's babys first Zelda game.
>OOT has a complete lack of objective/storyline. The story consists of the Deku Tree calling you the chosen one for no fucking reason at all. Then Zelda tells you Ganondorf is up to no good (of course, Ganondorf hasn't done anything illegal yet) and for some reason Link listens to this stupid bitch. While listening to Zelda, Link gets the Spirtual Stones to open the Sacred Realm, BUT this is what Ganondorf wanted the entire time or something and he used this to get into the realm. Ok. So in listening to Zelda, the bad guy just walked into the Sacred Realm (even though he was nowhere near Link when he used the Stones). Ugh.
>game is overall fucking slow as fuck. Endless walking, slow and boring combat, dialog boxes take forever to finish (Nintendo must legit think all their gamers had a 2nd grade reading speed), Navi interrupting constantly, the Owl showing up constantly, opening a chest takes 17 minutes, when getting an item like a bomb you get a 40 page description on how to use the bomb, general things slow down the gameplay (like King Zora taking 30 minutes to slide his fat ass over on his throne).

People say this game was ahead of it's time and they were right. Most of this OOT shit infects the games of today.

[Anonymous No.4319826]

>>4319824
>it sucked in 1997
Underage faggot detected.

[Anonymous No.4319829]

>>4319824
>It sucked in 1997

[Anonymous No.4319832]

What do people achieve with being contrarian

[Anonymous No.4319838]

this post tastes like egoraptor

[Anonymous No.4319846]

>>4319824
>gameplay consists of mostly walking through wide open fields and empty dungeons
Daggerfall does the same and we praise but Zelda can't!

>The occasional enemies you do encounter are taken down with Z-Targeting like it's babys first Zelda game.
You know thats not every enemy you take down with Z-Targeting and some can't be killed with the sword alone without using it.

>OOT has a complete lack of objective/storyline
Le generation that thinks everything has to be clear and objective at all costs. Contemplation is nowhere to be found

>game is overall fucking slow as fuck. Endless walking, slow and boring combat, dialog boxes take forever to finish (Nintendo must legit think all their gamers had a 2nd grade reading speed), Navi interrupting constantly, the Owl showing up constantly, opening a chest takes 17 minutes, when getting an item like a bomb you get a 40 page description on how to use the bomb, general things slow down the gameplay (like King Zora taking 30 minutes to slide his fat ass over on his throne).
The pace not being to your liking doesn't make a game bad. I know, you're turning 13 this month, happy birthday and enjoy your objective souls-like games

[Anonymous No.4319848]

>>4319832
relatively fast replies on a slow board
high post counts
amusement
attention

[Anonymous No.4319858]

>>4319838
This just in: this is fucking egoraptor's opinion!

Alright listen you FUCKING IDIOTS! You like games because of nostalgia? What are you some fucking faggot who hasn't learned how to use a noose?

[Anonymous No.4320197]

>>4319824

Yeah. It probably did suck in 1997.

I mean it was pretty unfinished and unpolished wasn't it.

[Anonymous No.4320206]

Most games consist of running around and going into dungeons or fighting easy monsters.

[Anonymous No.4320207]

>>4319846
>Daggerfall does the same and we praise but Zelda can't!
I didn't see OP praising Daggerfall.

[Anonymous No.4320213]

>>4320207
Especially since the vast amounts of nothing in all Elder Scrolls games is a fairly common criticism, Daggerfall being no exception.

[Anonymous No.4320229]

>>4319824
The formula was making a transition from 2D to 3D, it was bound to have a few hiccups. It certainly fared better than others. Have you seen Castlevania 64?

[Anonymous No.4320235]

but the monsters in OoT are cool and most of them require unique methods to defeat them, react differently to different items, etc. it even has a pretty good variety for an early 3D game. literally nothing wrong with the game's enemy design.

[Anonymous No.4320243]

>>4319824
Oh, its this exact same thread again

[Anonymous No.4320253]

>>4319824
>In the 2D Zedlas each screen was designed to be filled with enemies, puzzles, items to find, etc. Now you literally just run around with barely anything to do.
This is a valid critique with no easy fix. 2D Zeldas are best zeldas, but they won't make you win millions.

[Anonymous No.4320259]

>>4319846
>Daggerfall does the same and we praise but Zelda can't!
Oh, but there is Battlespire, you know. Which is quick, hard, stylish as fuck and has best level layouts from all the Bethesda games. Has a lot of bugs though.

[Anonymous No.4320263]

>>4320229
So what, now everyone is supposed to close one's eyes on those hickups just because some fanboy prefers to pretend said hickups are not there?

[Anonymous No.4320298]

>>4319824
>expecting me to read all that shit
hey buddy, do yourself a favor and go get smashed with a forklift

good news is you don't need an operator's license to get mangled, so let's get a move on

[Anonymous No.4320347]

>>4320243
It wouldn't so bad if /vr/ wasn't filled to the brim with eager fish.

[Anonymous No.4320384]

>>4319824
Anon, let me tell you something. In truth, you are probably just baiting, but asuming you aren't, the reality is that you are going to be called a retard and a faggot for having the opinion that you do. However, I take a different approach. I completely understand your criticisms and I can see why you feel the way you do. However, with that being said, I think you are discrediting a truly good game over some truly retarded reasoning. Ironically, I think much of your argument neglects to mention the true flaws that this game has. I don't see story as an issue, nor do I think you are correct in saying the game is somehow empty. I do agree that there could have been more enemies, more challenge and more content, but at the end of the day, every game has its flaws, and such flaws pale in comparison to the overall stellar experience that OoT offers. You could have attacked the pacing, or the awful rupee utilization, or practically anything else, and these would have been valid claims. The truth is though, regardless of what criticism you levy against it, OoT is a great game. Not just because it revolutionized the industry, but because it was a legitimately good game. If there is one thing I have learned in life, it is that everything has flaws, and OoT ceetainly has flaws... but it is an amazing game nonetheless, and I ask that you replay it and view it through and objective lense, and you may just find it to be a much better game than you first imagined.

[Anonymous No.4320389]

>>4320384
8.3/10
Solid effort.
I especially enjoyed
>OoT is a great game ... because it was a legitimately good game.

[Anonymous No.4320419]

>>4320298
>brain-dead warehouse employee doesn't want to read
imagine that

[Anonymous No.4320461]

>>4320419
less talk, more broken bones

[Anonymous No.4320515]

>tfw I played this for the first time in 2012 and loved it

it holds up and is an incredible game, some of the most fun I've ever had with one. The world design is fantastic, it feels big but is only as big as it needs to be, more importantly its design feels cohesive.

[Anonymous No.4320543]

3d killed the video game industry. Now it's the simulation/interactive movie industry.

[Anonymous No.4320595]

>>4319824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u4PCz_Q4jw

[Anonymous No.4320603]

>>4319824
>it sucked in 1997
Great. Keep us informed.

[Anonymous No.4320692]

>>4320389
I took it to mean that it was a good game in every sense of the phrase. Music, graphics, gameplay, etc. It really is. OoT did a lot of good, anyone who ignores that and goes on to say that the game is shit is just a tryhard.

Regardless, I hope these types of threads just get ignored in the future. It's the same thread over and over again with OP disappearing after presenting his surface level arguments.

[Anonymous No.4320837]

>>4319824
>It sucked
>Choesn one is such bs
Oh yeah cause 2d Zelda didn't do this
>Link to the past
>Beginning of the game "LINK LINK YOU HAVE TO HELP ME OMG IM ZELDA HELP"
So you can suck a dick on that one
>You believe Zelda when she says gannondorf is bad
Well, you did have a dream at the beginning about him chasing her so he's probably not a good guy
>He went to the forbidden realm
The door to the master sword and forbidden realm is wide fucking open the entire game after you open, what's to stop Gannon from going in?
>Game is empty
Yeah cause there's nothing in Hyrule field right? Zombie skeletons, poes, flying things that try to kill you (cant remember the name).
Not to mention there's tons of locations hidden in the map, fairy fountains under rocks, royal family tomb in grave yard, etc.
>Empty dungeons
Right so empty, that's why there's crap in almost every room that will try to kill you
>Slow
Maybe you should just get gud. If it's too slow speed run the thing. The pacing is fine, youre just trying to find something to attack
>Navi and owl are annoying, zora king moves slow
Literally the only true things you've said, which detract from the game very little
>Chests take forever to open
Big ones do because it's supposed to be an intense moment (IE: finally got bow or hookshot or boss key, etc.)
In conclusion you are a faggot. There I took the bait

[Anonymous No.4321525]

What the fuck was up with the Zora King taking so long to move anyway? Not to mention he just looks disgusting.

[Anonymous No.4322089]

>>4319824
It probably did suck in 97, since you know, they were still developing it back then. it came out in Nov. 21, 1998 for the Holidays

[Sage No.4322094]

Sage and hide.

[Anonymous No.4322992]

>>4319824
It used to be my favorite game when it came out till a few years ago (before that it was a tie between Ninja Gaiden and Super Metroid). DOnt know if it is because I played the hell out of it like 50 times (getting everything, trying every cheat and bug), if its because N64 hasnt aged well in general, or a mix of everything, but I cant stand it anymore. Dont get me wrong, I still think it was a good game, but I will probably never play it again.

[Anonymous No.4322996]

>>4321525
muh genetics

[Anonymous No.4323083]

>>4320515
Out of curiosity, did you play it on a real N64 console, on a 3DS or did you emulate it?

[Anonymous No.4323084]

>>4323083
Real console.

[Anonymous No.4323442]

>>4320515
>tfw I played this for the first time in 2012 and loved it
Are you me?

[Anonymous No.4323447]

>>4319824
>the best Zelda sucked
Ok

[Anonymous No.4323470]

>>4319824
I genuinely can't get invested in this game. I tried the N64 version, I tried the 3DS version... I just can't buy into it.

[Anonymous No.4323602]

>>4319824
Cringe. Jesus, those of us who were actually alive and gaming in the /vr/ era are fast approaching "old man yells at cloud" territory, REEEEing about 20 year old kids toys.

[Anonymous No.4323616]

>>4323602
>are fast approaching
Just look at any Gen Xer whining about millennials here, they're already there.

[Anonymous No.4324463]

Majoras Mask was/is better in every way.

[Anonymous No.4324780]

You are literally the most impatient, ignorant retard I've ever met.

[Anonymous No.4324783]

>>4320837
Kudos, brother.

[Anonymous No.4324795]

>>4324463
>this story-centric game is better than this gameplay-centric game in every way
How can you even live with this?

[Anonymous No.4324801]

>>4324795
Neither one is particularly gameplay centric, let's be honest

[Anonymous No.4324837]

>>4320515
this is me as well

Majora's mask is better though

[Anonymous No.4324838]

>>4319824
OP have you been posting online since Zelda was new? I found your post when you first made it.

[Anonymous No.4326375]

The creator of the game originally wanted the game to feel like exploration outside as a child. Therefore, the game should only be walking through fields.

[Anonymous No.4326436]

>>4319824
if your name is Arin you should:

a) kys
and
b) close down your channel
and
c) stop posting on 4chan

[Anonymous No.4326450]

>>4320197
Items appear in fields a lot more frequently then their supposed to, making shops completely useless (DD was supposed to make grass cutting a much less sustainable way to farm).
Other than that, and a few unfinished sidequests, the game is pretty solid.

[Anonymous No.4326463]

>>4319824
>I shouldn't have to explain myself
That's right, you shouldn't. In fact, you don't have to at all. In fact nobody asked you to, and nobody cares. You literally could've never made this thread and literally everyone's loves would still be the same for it.

Now go post your lame bait somewhere else. You're probably only here because you tried on /v/ and they turned your thread into a gay gerudo Link appreciation thread so you decided to come play ez mode with the easiest gaming board to get angry replies on.

[Anonymous No.4326896]

I got three of my nephews to play this game and every single one of them loved it. They can't stand any other "old" game I introduce to them.

OoT is objectively good and I'm sorry you're an odious

[Anonymous No.4327030]

OP's right. I'm willing to bet everyone here who's butthurt played OOT as a kid and it's their nostalgia talking, I first played it in my 20s over a decade after release and it really isn't that great.

[Anonymous No.4327049]

>>4319824
Ocarina of Time is hugely popular, because to a lot of people it was their first zelda game.
They built their perception of "a good or bad zelda game" by "how similar to OoT is it."

I started with Link to the Past, and only Twilight Princess, Spirit Tracks, and maybe Phantom Hourglass are below Ocarina of Time in my estimation.

[Anonymous No.4327051]

>I'm a fucking retard and anyone who disagrees with my personal tastes is wrong

I played the game in my 20's over a decade after release too, and I loved it. Who would've thunk people could have different opinions.