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4316138 No.4316138 [Reply] [Original]

Let's discuss the fantastic and good looking remake of FF IV.

>B-but GBA is not allowed he-
Psss, The Wonderswan remake, a console from 1999 *tips fedora*.

Well ... how does it compare to the original?

>> No.4316139

>>4316138
>Pssss

>> No.4316148
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4316148

remakes are allowed, you dumb newjew

>> No.4316189

Wonderswan version was great, I liked the subtle improved backgrounds. Though flying in the airship was weird as fuck, that weird cylinder effect.

>> No.4316206

What's the best version of the best pre-7 FF

>> No.4316217

>>4316206
DS version

>> No.4316247

Remakes are allowed so we can already discuss every GBA game that matters.

>> No.4316264

>>4316206
Don't listen to the casual, PS1 version is the way to go.
Advance is dumbed down but it's good enough.

>> No.4316286

>>4316264
I dunno, the load times on the PSX are pretty atrocious. The PSX translation is pretty good though—all the remakes basically use it with some tweaks.

>> No.4316295

the advance version is buggy, avoid

>Many times, PCs will be skipped over for their turn. This is a function of the flawed ATB system. The game appears highly conflicted trying to work out the instant action ATB system used in 5 and 6, and the "casting time" differences in 4: If two characters have a ready turn (full ATB bar), then if a third bar fills up before the first of those characters finishes an action, it will ignore the original queue for an entire turn.
>Other things that can occur from this destructive ATB bug: rapidly melee attacking as someone tries to cast a spell can result in that character never casting the spell, at least until there's a break in the acting. This affects enemies as well, letting players delay their actions indefinitely. The most harmful aspect is its ability to skip exactly the person whose turn the player is trying to get: "Defend" being an instant action, selecting it with the other characters in the party will result in the intended character never getting a turn.
>Some jerkiness while flying airships, more so when going left and right than up and down, and during menu navigation in and out of battle. The latter makes it less effective to select spells or weapons during fast-paced Active Mode battles.
>Minor lag when attacking during battles.

Wonderswan as well
>Most of the bugs listed in the GBA section also apply to this version.

DS or PSP are the way to go, the translated original SNES version (not NA or easy type) is good as well

>> No.4316298

>>4316295
Bro, i patch every game to skip combats. Just look the wonderful pixel art is all i need. I don't need your loading times.

>> No.4316302

>>4316298
not your bro, faggot

>> No.4316314

>>4316206
PS1 is closest to the original, PSP is basically GBA with other graphics and about twice the content, and DS is a completely remade 3D game with probably the best difficulty setup of them all.

Basically take your pick.

>> No.4316445

>>4316295
>Wonderswan as well
I finished the WSC version. I haven't encountered any of the bugs present in GBA port, unless I simply didn't notice them.

>> No.4316548

>>4316206
FF1 - PS1 or PSP
FF2 - PS1 or PSP
FF3 - NES or PC
FF4 - SNES or PSP
FF4 3d remake - PC
FF5 - SNES or GBA
FF6 - SNES or GBA
FF7 - PC or PS4

>> No.4316551
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>>4316295
>>4316138
>>4316445
How about this

https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=20582.0

>> No.4316968

>>4316138
Remakes are technically allowed on /vr/
No need to tip-toe around, OP

>> No.4317353
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4317353

>EVER EVER RECOMMENDING PS1 VERSIONS

jesus fucking christ, what are you doing?
loading times at the beginning and end of every single random encounter and transition

>> No.4317870

FF1 - Famicom
FF2 - Famicom
FF3 - Famicom
FF4 - Sufami
FF5 - Sufami
FF6 - Sufami
FF7 - Praystation

>> No.4317942

Why is FF1 better on famicom than NES? I'm looking for actual reasons, not "I'm a tryhard weeb" reasons. For example, Zelda 2 actually has significantly smoother gameplay on Famicom. Is there anything similar with FF1?

>> No.4317960

I honestly prefer the more understated look of the SFC original compared to the moer detailed GBA sprites.

>>4317353
5 and 6's ports are borked but 4's is fine, loading is pretty minimal outside saving

>> No.4318007

>>4316206
Def one on ds. I hate ffiv my whole life until i played that one. Its also the most difficult

>> No.4318016

>>4316551
neat!

>> No.4318018

>>4318007

It's the most challenging for sure (every other version of FFIV is super easy), but it's so fucking ugly. Those polygonal models are horrible, and the world is really lifeless.

>> No.4318070

Thanks for responses, now let me ask a related question. The following are the jRPGs on my DS flashcart. Which one should I play, ie it's a good game and the DS version is not gimped and inferior:

>Final Fantasy 3, 4
>Dragon Quest 4, 6, 9

>> No.4318082

>>4318070

The DS versions of DQ 4 and 6 are great. There is no other version of DQ 9.

The DS version of FF3 is bad. The version of FF4 is ugly but very challenging and has great gameplay.

>> No.4318124

>>4316548

The PC version of FF3 has a save corrupting bug and it's missing the auto battle feature from the PSP version.

>> No.4318135 [DELETED] 

>>4316138
>>Psss, The Wonderswan remake, a console from 1999 *tips fedora*.
The Wonderswan Color was released after 1999 and isn't considered retro.

>> No.4318202 [DELETED] 

>>4318135
Fake
> Released in 1999 in the fifth generation of video game consoles

>> No.4318203 [DELETED] 

>>4318202
That's the non-color Wonderswan.

>> No.4318369 [DELETED] 

>>4318135
The game, however, is an enhanced port and/or remake of a retro game and therefore is considered retro.

>> No.4318378 [DELETED] 

>>4318369
show me in the sticky. thats not the rules. its not retro.

>> No.4318416

>>4316314
Literally this.

>> No.4319378

>>4316548
>FF 7
>PC or PS4
Yeah those open mouths, midi tunes, cheats, and shitty backgrounds sure are superior.

>> No.4319681

>>4316138
Link to the Past knock off

>> No.4319689

>>4316548
If you're playing a non-NES version of 3 go with PSP. It's the DS version minus touchscreen and it's still possible to get Onion Knight because it's not tied to a now-disconnected wireless service

>> No.4319693

>>4316148
Man does anyone else just think the models from the FFIV remake just look awful?
They're not realistic enough to look like real people but not chibi enough to look cute.

>> No.4319696

>>4316138
>OP's image.

Game for ants. Just play the PSP version.

>> No.4320683

>>4317353
PS1 version of 1 and 2 are unironically the best. GBA casualized the magic system and introduced a whole palate of shit

>> No.4320710

>>4316286
Fucking hell this meme again.

They're slow ONLY on an actual psx. The only exception is 6, the load times are built-in for some stupid reason.

>> No.4320718

>>4319378
He said PC not Steam you dipshit.

>> No.4321962

>>4316264
What if you can mod?

>> No.4322029

>>4318070
I'd advise playing classic jrpgs on emulator instead so you get more mileage out of your time

>> No.4322175

I really liked the PSP version of 4. It looked absolutely beautiful.
I nearly chucked my copy though after playing the first hour of the sequel which was included on it.

>> No.4322216
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>>4316138
>Look how good this looks!
>posts image size for single cell organisms