/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4298804]

Itt: games you tried so hard to love but just..could not....get over how shitty it is

Pic utmost related
>godlike music
>godlike atmosphere
>core gameplay is such shit

[Anonymous No.4298814]

>>4298804
I liked it...

Mine would be FFIV

[Anonymous No.4298815]

This game gets btfo by Zelda II but it's basically legendary for how backwards and inside out the logic in it is and people have totally been claiming that they totally beat it without a guide and no actually that's bullshit you liar for over 20 years now

[Anonymous No.4298826]

>>4298815
Here >>4298814

A dude I knew at school told me about kneeling with the crystal, everything else I figured out and beat on my own. One of my favorite nes games.

[Anonymous No.4298828]

Never really liked it.

[Anonymous No.4298834]

>>4298828
I love this game but probably only because i was a 5th grader and tifa was my first waifu

[Anonymous No.4299052]

>>4298804
This goes at the top of my list of games that were too hard for me to beat but that I loved anyway, and then find out as an adult that people consider it a bad game. I don't buy it. That was a damn good game.

[Anonymous No.4299089]

>>4298804
Wrong
>>4298828
Wrong

You fucking morons need to learn how to appreciate classics before posting here.

[Anonymous No.4299101]

>>4299089

>opinions are wrong

[Anonymous No.4299142]

I'm still anticipating Prelude mod

[Anonymous No.4299158]

>>4298804
Maybe you should play the amazing fan remake

[Anonymous No.4299161]

>>4299158
Fan 'remakes' are cancerous and not retro.

[Anonymous No.4299164]

>>4298828
thats what I wanted to post too :O

[Anonymous No.4299168]

>>4299158
>amazing
>fan
>remake

[Anonymous No.4300119]

>>4299161
>bitch that game sucks because X
>somone makes a hack fixing X
>bitch that the game sucks because X was changed, no longer authentic

Over and over and over and over and

[Anonymous No.4300306]

>>4299161

That's a needlessly limiting mindset to have.

I agree that 9/10 romhacks suck ass, but the hacks that don't change the story or level design and only add QOL changes are usually pretty solid.

[Anonymous No.4300534]

I fucking love Civ 4 but I just can't get into any of the older ones.

[Anonymous No.4302321]

>>4299089
And you need to be not such a squealing fangirl. CV 2 ain't that great, I beat it eons ago on my NES. And there's far better RPGs on PS1 than VII.

[Anonymous No.4302461]

i love the level design, sound design & atmosphere of quake but i really hate the enemy & weapon variety

[Anonymous No.4302625]

>>4298828
My nigga.

[Anonymous No.4302646]

>>4300534
Civ 2 still holds up for me but hey, to each his own.

[Anonymous No.4302652]

>>4300534

Civ 1 is terrible, try its big brother Civ 2 instead.

[Anonymous No.4303153]

I have tried, lord I have tried to get into the Metroid series but just don't like it

[Anonymous No.4303198]

>>4302461
Not to sound like a dick but if you hate the weapon variety, you probably don't "get" it. Quake's weapon set is one of the best of any first person shooter because each weapon is best suited for a particular situation. One of the most common oversights by new players is that the shotgun is simply a shittier version of the double-barreled shotgun, which is actually the exact opposite of the truth. The regular shotgun has a tighter spread and only uses one shell as opposed to two, so for peppering enemies at a distance it's pretty much the best weapon in the game and saves a ton of ammo for more valuable guns. Conversely, if you're suddenly jumped by an enemy and backed into corner, pulling out the double shotty will be the preferred option because you'll want to take that fucker down as quickly as possible and avoid losing health, even if you waste a few extra shots. This is just an example of the many uses that each weapon has. It's easy to think "oh man, all these weapons suck, they're all just clones", but they're not. They each have a purpose, and that's why they're awesome. In most shooters, the guns all do the same exact shit with minor variations to damage or firing speed, and chances are you'll never need to use most of them. In Quake, chances are you'll be forced to use almost every weapon at some point. In this way, the weapons are more like tools than just guns.

Enemy variety I understand, but there are more than you think, and each one has entirely unique attack patterns and abilities.

I think you should try it again. Start out by playing on the hardest difficulty, and the game goes from "mowing down trash enemies with lame weapons, whoopdie doo", to "holy shit I wonder what the fuck is around this corner, what weapon should I use?". It's the thinking man's shooter. If all you want is flashy weapons and popcorn theater action, go play Halo. Otherwise, Quake is one of the best shooters ever made.

[Anonymous No.4303204]

>>4303153
Don't feel bad. The Mongoloid series has always been the shitty diaper of the Nintendo IP lineup.

[Anonymous No.4303207]

>>4303198
>REEEEEEE

Lifelong Quake fan here. Holy shit you are making us look bad.

[Anonymous No.4303213]

>>4303207
>Lifelong Quake fan here. Holy shit you are making us look bad.
How did you interpret what I said as "REEE"? Does anything longer than two sentences trigger your spectrum disorder? Calm down.

[Anonymous No.4303214]

>>4303153
Super Metroid is the only good retro Metroid anyway.

[Anonymous No.4303217]

>>4303207
>us
>implying rangers would ever wanted to be associated with some faggot that posts coconut head reaction images

[Anonymous No.4303225]

The entire Crash Bandipoochy trilogy.

[Anonymous No.4303236]

>>4303207
>Lifelong Quake fan here.
>posts Ned's Declassified meme
yeah youre "lifelong" because you were born the year it came out lmao. go back to watching teen nick and let the big boys talk about quake.
>>4303198
good effort but dont bother. if he didnt figure any of this out on his own, chances are he never will. he probably thinks half life 2 is the best shooter ever made.

[Anonymous No.4303242]

>>4303207
>you are making us look bad.
>us
Sorry to hop on the rape train but you're a faggot and there is no "us".

[Anonymous No.4303246]

>>4303153
I grew up playing and loving metroid 1.

Can never get into super metroid or any sequels.

Just dont have the patience to go through the haunting exploration again

[Anonymous No.4303278]

>>4303198
>>4303236
why are quakefags so insecure about criticism?

[Anonymous No.4304160]

>>4303198
The Nailgun is outclassed in every way by its upgrade though.

[Anonymous No.4304176]

>>4304160
>The Nailgun is outclassed in every way by its upgrade though.
I'll admit that the standard nailgun is probably the only real "useless" weapon in the game, however it is worth noting that it can stagger enemies more frequently than the SN due to a slower rate of fire, so it might be preferable in some situations. Granted though, the SN has double the damage so 90% of the time it is probably the better weapon. Every other gun still has a specific use though.

[Anonymous No.4304503]

>>4303153
Same. I played through Super Metroid last year and while I liked the game and marveled at its 16-bit atmosphere, I didn't really enjoy the game. When it was done I didn't really want more of it. I might try Fusion or Zero Mission on a whim sometime but, meh.

[Anonymous No.4304512]

>>4298804
What I'm realizing now since my NES library was mostly hand me downs is I got people's shit games that they didn't like. Castlevania 2, Dr. Chaos, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Solomon's Key, Kid Kool, Deadly Towers. No wonder I began to rely on the game genie.

[Anonymous No.4304618]

>>4298804
Get this OP and give it another shot.

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1032/

[Anonymous No.4304662]

>>4304618
That's not the way the game was intended to be played. If he likes C2 after applying the patch then he still doesn't like the game. If you claim to love Monopoly but only with a certain number of tweaked rules that severely alter the flow and tone of the game, do you really love Monopoly? You don't.

[Anonymous No.4304668]

>>4304662
House rules for Monopoly are commonplace and make the game more fun

[Anonymous No.4305264]

>>4304668
This. Also read up on the history of Monopoly it was originally designed from the ground up to be not fun.

[Anonymous No.4305273]

>>4304512
I actually like Castlevania 2 for some reason. Also Solomon's Key is a pretty good game...just hard.

[Anonymous No.4305291]

>>4304176
Nailgun and Super Nailgun fire at same rate. Difference is in damage and munitions consumed.

[Anonymous No.4305360]

Is CastleVania II worth double dipping if you get the redacted version?

I finished the original version and felt pretty meh about it.

[Anonymous No.4305541]

>>4305273
I liked it too, top out of that list, but i sure as hell never beat it.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.4305856]

>>4305360
I think all it does is speed up the day/night transition, and makes NPC dialogue more helpful and less cryptic. It doesn't change the core gameplay or add any content.

[Anonymous No.4306891]

>>4298815
Plenty of people beat it without a guide. I'm one of them. I'm not saying it's a great game, because Zelda 2 isn't a Zelda game, but plenty of people were able to play it without a guide just fine. Just because you couldn't doesn't mean someone else can, or are you the greatest to ever play video games ever?

[Anonymous No.4306895]

>>4306891
*can't
Man, I wish my fingers would do what I want 100% of the time.

[Anonymous No.4307282]

>>4298804
The trick with this one is that 'core gameplay' is just something to pass the time while the REAL meat of the game is exploration and solving these cryptic puzzles.
It's like if Myst had a minigame where you have to punch some demons once in a while.

[Anonymous No.4307616]

>>4299158
What remake? I've never heard of any remakes.

[Anonymous No.4308523]

I will forever praise FFII for having good story and characters for a NES game from 80s and I really respect what it tried to do. That said:

What's wrong with 2?
It's retarded "level up" system. In theory it sound great:
In theory attacking your enemies makes you better at using whatever weapon you used and occasionally gain str.
In theory taking physical damage makes you tougher by raising your HP and def.
In theory using magic makes the spells you used stronger and gives you more MP and mag. bonuses.

However in practice you are doing things like these:
-Choosing attack, immediately canceling it and doing this over and over again about 100 times per battle. This is bug/exploit allowing you to gain proficiency levels for the weapon type you are using.
-Hitting your own guys in hopes of getting more HP for them.
-Casting your spells over and over again to make them worth shit.

Also the main problem here is that you basically HAVE TO keep doing these exploit over and over again in every fucking battle to get strong enough just to survive the battles with the random enemies you come across. Oh, FFII is pretty non-linear meaning if you ever walk out of your way and go somewhere else instead of the place you are supposed to go changes are you encounter enemies that are way too strong for you and kill you instantly. And if you ever try to play FFII normally without using aforementioned exploits you are as good as dead and have grind forever to gain any stats at all.

What I typed is based on my experiences with the original Famicon and PSX versions of FFII, apparently the newer versions/remakes of FFII have been made slightly easier (or should I say more playable in this case) by increasing the stats gains, removing you occasionally LOSING your stats and making the enemies a bit weaker but you are still pretty much required to use all exploit you can in them. Anyway I REALLY wanted to like FFII but couldn't.

[Anonymous No.4308540]

being OCD, i could never enjoy this game not knowing what the other choices entails.

[Anonymous No.4308553]

I don't hate it, but man, this felt like a step down from Quake 1 in every way imaginable. Gone was the unique medieval aesthetic, the chilling ambient soundtrack, the labyrinthine level design with secrets abound, and the glorious gibs. The guns don't even have muzzle flash, what the fuck? The weapons in general were just shit. They felt so weak, particularly the trash-tier regular shotgun which felt like I was shooting and reloading a nerf gun. Overall, just a slower, clunkier, less unique, less atmospheric game in almost ever way.

[Anonymous No.4308565]

>>4298804
I really wanted it to be the magnum opus fans make it out to be, but it ended up killing my excitement for the Unity remake.

[Anonymous No.4308582]

>>4308523
I absolutely hate "lean as you do" leveling systems. I cannot play TES games for this reason because every time I sperg out over optimal leveling.

[Anonymous No.4308612]

It's not shitty, but I'm a weenie who only likes games that are safe and familiar and hates anything that requires me to meet it halfway.

[Anonymous No.4309645]

>>4299161
Read the rules my boy.

[Anonymous No.4309647]

>>4302646
Civ 2 is great honestly. Might be my favorite civ.

[Anonymous No.4309670]

>>4308523
>you basically HAVE TO keep doing these exploit over and over again in every fucking battle

no you don't

[Anonymous No.4309737]

>>4308523
>Choosing attack, immediately canceling it and doing this over and over again about 100 times per battle. This is bug/exploit allowing you to gain proficiency levels for the weapon type you are using.
>Hitting your own guys in hopes of getting more HP for them.
>Casting your spells over and over again to make them worth shit.

The game is plenty playable and enjoyable without doing that. Don't exploit to the point that ypu ruin a game for yourself and then blame the game. That's all on you.

[Jibwib Simmerstim, Esq. No.4309753]

I know it isn't really retro, but believe me I tried to get into Dungeon Siege and was bored to tears by it. I had to force myself to complete that dullard.