/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4298085]

Stop replacing the labels on your cartridges.

[Sage No.4298107]

Stop posting ecelebs. Sage and reported.

[Anonymous No.4298110]

>ian returns to show
>never listen to Pat again

Feel good man,.

[Anonymous No.4298119]

>>4298107

Announcing sage or reports is a global rule violation. I agree eceleb shit doesn't belong here, but there's no sense in getting yourself banned as well.

[Anonymous No.4298123]

>>4298085
/vr/ - eceleb shit and other underageb& shit

[Sage No.4298147]

>>4298119
I know, I just ban evade by phone posting when I do. No biggie. Feels good.

[Anonymous No.4298151]

Okay, Pat.

[Anonymous No.4298171]

>>4298151
What the fuck. Is this actually real?

[Anonymous No.4298181]

>>4298171
No, but its very similar to the way he writes. Its just dumbed down a bit. The actual review was only mediocre, not retarded.

[Anonymous No.4298183]

>>4298171
Yes it is real, entire book is written like this.

[Anonymous No.4298193]

>>4298171
Yes it's real. If you want something to blame blame the New Jersey education system.

[Anonymous No.4298223]

>>4298171
Yeah, the book is unintentionally hilarious. At first it is funny, but then it gets annoying after the 4th or 5th retardedly written review.

[Anonymous No.4298228]

>>4298151
wait what book is this

[Anonymous No.4298231]

>>4298228
Pat's 'Ultimate NES guidebook'

[Anonymous No.4298253]

>>4298231
is this some sort of robert hamburger type nonsense

[Anonymous No.4298339]

>>4298253
>implying ninjas don't flip out and start killing people
>implying you'll ever understand, let alone actually wield, real ultimate power

[Anonymous No.4298361]

>have a degree in graphic design and printing
>created many forgeries throughout high school and college
>Parking passes, Student IDs, doctors notes ECT
>above average skill
>Sometimes I remove passable game labels and replace them with weathered replicas just to have the satisfaction that no one will ever be able to tell the difference

[Anonymous No.4298413]

>>4298361
not /vr/ but what's the most difficult of all of those?

[Anonymous No.4298506]

>>4298085
Pat is a cuck and a faggot.

[Anonymous No.4298509]

>>4298506
You can't be both.

[Anonymous No.4298559]

>>4298228
A certain NES guidebook

[Anonymous No.4298570]

Pat, I buy repro snes boxes and they are not marked as 'repro'. Call the cops.

[Anonymous No.4298582]

>>4298570
Pat is a Nintenazi.

[Anonymous No.4298650]

>>4298151
>Koopa T roopas

Fuck me, I'm having a shit day but this always makes me laugh.

[Anonymous No.4298723]

Remember when Pat's phone number was listed here and some anon(s) called him? Good times.

[Anonymous No.4298736]

>>4298085
>says the guy who says nothing when a pawn shop broker jokes about blowing into cartridges

[Anonymous No.4298759]

>>4298151

This is actual isn't it? It read it in his voice and it's highly authentic.

[Anonymous No.4298768]

>>4298413
The IDs by far. You need a laminating machine a way to spoof magnet strips and sometimes identical or similar looking holograms. Stopped doing it a long time a go for very good reasons. Nowadays they use chips that may or may not be encrypted.

[Anonymous No.4298794]

It's a "Pat has a meltdown when he remembers he wasted his life on Nintendo games" episode.

[Anonymous No.4298801]

listen to this horrible screeching faggot trying to be funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjWRJ9cKcyU

[Anonymous No.4298812]

>>4298171

Obviously not, but it's funny because his actual writing is only slightly more articulate. He really needed an editor to beat him with a club every time he wrote "very." The book reads like someone's 4chan posts, it's just completely unedited stream of consciousness shit that should not have been published.

In his defense he had to grind out a shitload of these and just didn't bother to polish most of them up. The blurbs for the more well-known games aren't as bad as the ones for random obscure shit.

[Anonymous No.4298837]

>>4298151
This reads like someone who was stoned when they wrote it and never bothered to proofread.
I turned in some college essays like that and somehow graduated.

[Anonymous No.4298880]

>>4298151
And here is the real review. Nice try though.

[Anonymous No.4298894]

>>4298880
> Not even a book

Nice try, Pat lover.

[Anonymous No.4298896]

>>4298880
Obviously faked.

[Anonymous No.4298928]

>>4298894
>>4298896
(You)

[Anonymous No.4298930]

>>4298801
This kind of shitty ironic humor doesn't really work when you're exactly the type of faggot you're trying to make fun of.

[Anonymous No.4299003]

>calls others scumbag resellers
>is a scumbag reseller himself

[Anonymous No.4299217]

>>4299003
Is he? Genuinely curious no meme. What was he selling?

[Anonymous No.4299230]

To bad """Connor""" I'm placing a fresh print over your faggot ass name get wrecked.

[Anonymous No.4299314]

>>4299217
He sells shit at conventions all the time.

[Anonymous No.4299425]

>>4299314
I thought he said a scumbag resellers are ones who buy purposely to flip/scalp, he supports selling things from one's own collection.

[Anonymous No.4299435]

>>4299217
He absolutely is.
He buys shit to resell all the god damned time, I've seen him do it at multiple conventions I've been to.
He doesn't sell at much below market value, and the small discount he makes to his "friends" he makes absolutely sure you know he's "doing you a favor".

Pat is not well liked within the youtube community either, and I know you and that faggot Ian are reading this thread too, go off yourself, you waste of space.

[Anonymous No.4299505]

i don't own any cartridges.

In fact almost every single /vr/ game I've played has been on my old hacked psp during college

[Anonymous No.4299547]

>>4299505
You don't belong here.

[Anonymous No.4299904]

>>4299435
Selling games under market value is pretty much donating money so fuck that

[Anonymous No.4300198]

>>4298812
>he had to
Let's just say he tried to do something that was out of his league.

[Anonymous No.4300305]

>>4298361
>roleplaying on a chinese tapestry website

[Anonymous No.4300423]

it bothers me that pat has his nes games pointing the wrong direction

[Anonymous No.4300479]

>>4299904
It isn't if you're still making a profit

[Anonymous No.4300490]

>>4298768
How about reproducing logos which are laminated on the plastic itself?

[Anonymous No.4300515]

> Be me
> Buy a factory in Tacoma, Washington
> Discover it was used to make NES game labels and still had the old material / prints to remake them!
> Start making repro labels in the exact quality / materials as originally made
> Autistic perm wearing faggot breaks into my factory
> His autistic screech and mouth of spit are impossible to withstand
> Destroys my factory but not before taking the labels I had already made.
> Resells them himself while complaining about me.
> Feels bad, man.

[Anonymous No.4300520]

>>4300515
in which alternate universe your story is?

[Anonymous No.4300584]

>>4299435
Why don't you confront him about it and film it. Free drama points. Go on you know you want to go down as the one who finally stumped pat on cam.

[Anonymous No.4300587]

>>4298171
It's just very welly made satire.

[Anonymous No.4300619]

>>4298151

Some retard actually put in time to produce this fake and there are even more retards that think it is entertaining. Pathetic

[Anonymous No.4300639]

>>4300515
>Tacoma
I wouldn't want your labels because they'd make my house smell like ass.

[Anonymous No.4300645]

Do ian and pat even enjoy playing video games?

[Anonymous No.4300656]

>>4300619
Sorry, Pat, but your writing is shit, no matter how much you try to change history.

[Anonymous No.4300692]

>>4300490
I hear it can be faked with the right equipment but I have never even tried it.

[Anonymous No.4301169]

>>4298151
Good thing I never planned on buying his stupid book. Now I know it's trash. LOL

[Anonymous No.4301174]

>>4301169
>believing such an obviously shopped post
Wow. /vr/ is truly filled with retards.

[Anonymous No.4301185]

>>4298506
Definitely a shit eating cocksucker. Go fuck yourself Pat you faggot piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.4301189]

I like how he says replacing the battery in a cartridge is still "original" but not the paper label that anyone can produce just like a battery.

[Anonymous No.4301217]

>>4301174

'shopped'.

[Anonymous No.4301245]

>>4301217
We get it. You hate Pat. Congrats. Anyways, here is the real review.

[Anonymous No.4301246]

>>4301217
funny shit

[Anonymous No.4301915]

>>4298085
As much as I hate this feget, he is right.

If people want to treat the video game hobby as a serious collectible, it needs to follow the same standards as shit like trading cards, comic books, coins, etc.
Replacing/repairing damage on that kind of shit destroys its value.

[Anonymous No.4302034]

>>4301174
>Pat getting this upset.
No one wants to buy your stupid book Pat.

>>4301915
So what are you suggesting? That people not buy cartridges that have damaged labels? That they're suppose to buy a cartridge with a perfect label? If people want to replace & repair labels, that's their right too. It's no different from buying a custom case for a SNES or N64 cartridge.

[Anonymous No.4302047]

>>4301915
>f people want to treat the video game hobby as a serious collectible

It just doesn't work that way. Think of getting a game graded. They literally only go by the packaging. Same thing with action figures.

[Anonymous No.4302738]

I buy a lot of secondhand games and resell them for what they're worth. Since I deal with a lot of these carts I got into the habit of replacing any and all worn labels to get more money out of them since it's cheap and easy to do. Even the tiniest nick means it gets a new label, hipsters love to have their perfectly mint copy of goof troop for the snes. To be honest I don't even give a shit one way or the other, once I get my money that shit is not my problem and this whole "preservation of the past" nonsense is so dumb.

[Anonymous No.4302778]

>>4301915
People can do what they want with their property. It's only the resale that hurts. As long as people have reproduction printed on the labels it doens't hurt anything. In fact it saves a game that could have been discarded.

[Anonymous No.4302781]

>>4302738
Yea, try telling that to an antiques dealer. Faggot. Any reproduction label printed for resale should have reproduction printed on the label. Otherwise you're just a cheat and a liar.

[Anonymous No.4302787]

>>4302781
It's just a little sticker on a mass produced video game. It's not as if the internals are a reproduction.

[Anonymous No.4302821]

>>4300515
What? .... What?

[Anonymous No.4302828]

>>4301915

I'm not paying $100+ for games that Pat be these other faggots bought off grandma at the flea markets for $3

Repro carts and labels are the free market answer to autism.

I can enjoy playing on a physical system for 1/1000 of the price with no difference in quality

If one of these tards does end up getting scammed by paying obscene amounts for a fake cart, then they were asking for it by participating in this now cancerous hobby

[Anonymous No.4302864]

>>4302781
>antiques dealer
We're talking about plastic carts with PCBs inside them. Video game ROMs. Video games are not art, they are not history.

[Anonymous No.4302871]

I don't collect, so I don't really mind buying repros or games with replacement labels. It's nice to have the game in good condition, even if I end up with a copy that's unofficially modified. However, I do have a problem with people producing repros of fan translations or ROM hacks that they don't have permission to profit from.

To be fair to collectors, repros probably should maintain subtle differences to signify their lack of authenticity. I don't see any necessary logic in trying to reproduce the original label design 1:1, especially if you charge eBay prices for your repros. At that point, it's clear you're trying to deceive people rather than performing a service.

[Anonymous No.4302976]

>>4302864
Video games are definitely an art form and a part of history. The media video games exist on are no less legitimate than the materials used in baseball cards, comic books, or old cars.

[Anonymous No.4303005]

I traded for a good deal on stadium events at too many games and the entire time pat was talking to the dealer and practically begging for the price i was getting (i traded using multiples of slightly rare late taito games i had come across) for a free copy of his book, the dealer was trying to be as nice as possible, probably in fear of pat dissing him on the podcast, but im not a nerd so i told him to fuck off, I called him a baby and told the dealer id link him the mega upload of pats book, pat stormed away all red faced and said "scumbags have taken over this hobby" like three times

[Anonymous No.4303071]

>>4303005
Lol what a fucking faggot. Pat is subhuman trash.

[Anonymous No.4303074]

>>4303005
I doubt the validity of this story.

[Anonymous No.4303078]

>>4303074
I dont. Ive met him at cons. Hes a wormy little shit.

[Anonymous No.4303079]

>>4303074
i can confirm it happened.

[Anonymous No.4303084]

>>4303079
Post a timestamped pic of your Stadium Events copy and I'll believe it.

[Anonymous No.4303102]

>>4302976
Sure but the packaging is just mass-produced shit.

[Anonymous No.4303106]

>>4302787
The sticker is still apiece of it and them thinking it was a genuine mint condition one is what incentive them to buy it over a cheaper more run down copy. What you're doing is not only immoral but illegal and I will contact the authorities about your little scam sir if you don't stop it immediately.

[Anonymous No.4303110]

>>4303074
Wouldn't doubt it. There's already a video up online of Pat being really furious over a guy snagging up a rare game for cheap before him.

[Anonymous No.4303113]

>>4303005
I remember you. Just so you know, I filed a report with the police for distributing stolen goods and the only way you're going to get me to drop the charges is if you give me that copy of Stadium Events and send $500 to my Patreon. Or you can go to jail. Your choice!

Scumbags like you don't last in this hobby. There are a lot of us who have been involved in running cons since before you were born, kid.

[Anonymous No.4303114]

This thread convinced me that someone should start mass-producing copies of retardedly priced carts that are impossible to discern from the originals.

[Anonymous No.4303119]

>>4303110
Link? I wanna see that.

[Anonymous No.4303120]

>>4303119
It's on some other guy's channel who is also pretty insufferable but I don't remember who just saw it when it was linked on here a few months back.

[Anonymous No.4303124]

>>4303102
Most collectibles are mass produced shit. And there's not too many pristine examples left thanks to ignorance and neglect. So, games with original labels are worth more. It's just like a dirty comic with rips versus a mint to near-mint copy.

Who the heck want to spend money on collectibles that are damaged? Not many unless the stuff is model trains, or coins and stuff like that. Especially in this market, people know that, generally, better can be found and command a higher price. It's life.

And people that replace labels with new ones and don't advertise them as such, are filth.

[Anonymous No.4303127]

>>4303124
No they aren't. They're rescuing the hobby from collector scum.

[Anonymous No.4303134]

>>4303127
You're starting to sound like a fraudster. That IS what you are supporting. Fraud. It's illegal, unethical, immoral, and just plain dishonest and wrong. The only scummy collectors are like Pat who inflate the prices in order to get leverage on the market, and people like yourself who make excuses for fraud or engage in it.

[Anonymous No.4303138]

>>4303134
My only problem with it is that it doesn't drop the price even more. IMO they should just start pumping out identical carts until the whole hobby is purged of collector types.

[Anonymous No.4303142]

>>4303134
You have issues, and I bet collecting video games is related to that.

[Anonymous No.4303146]

>>4303138
What you're talking about would only further enshrine examples of inflated values in truly original specimens. Worse, it would cause confusion in the market. There are always going to be ways to tell if it's real or not. And it would be a sad day if people had to practically carbon date their games because asshole fraudsters want to make a bunch of money that they have absolutely no right to earn.

You rail against "collectors" when you really mean leverage-monkeys like Pat who hoard games and manipulate the market accordingly. You may even call me a collector, but I play my games.

[Anonymous No.4303147]

>>4303142
You're a thief who doesn't like to be called on it.

[Anonymous No.4303151]

>>4303147
I'm not a thief. I'm just a seller who takes worn labels and replaces them so I can get more out of my investment and the buyer gets a better product than what I could offer had I not replaced the label. I'll tell people if they ask about it but I don't make it a selling point and I sure as hell don't say it's mint or factory condition.

Collecting is a mental illness btw, that goes for comic books, sports cards, games, etc

[Anonymous No.4303157]

>>4303146
I just want people to be able to experience the games I played growing up. With the cart. With the manual, even. Throw in a cool poster while we're at it.

I don't give a fuck if a cork-sniffer drives the price up of the genuine originals, although if this was the case, you wouldn't be so bent out of shape about it.

[Anonymous No.4303160]

>>4303151
You're a fucking thief. If you stand by what you do, tell us your name and the name of your business. Yeah, that's what I thought. You rip people off. Thief. And LOL you tell people IF they ask about it. You suck. :)

[Anonymous No.4303162]

>>4303151
You are a scummy scam artist and your lack of integrity probably extends to more than just defrauding people trying to enjoy their hobby.

[Anonymous No.4303169]

>>4303160
Yeah, let me dox myself. Fucking brilliant idea. I'm not using a home printer job you retard, the materials and process I use are either on par with that of the original manufacturing process or BETTER. Fact of the matter is that you can not and will not be able to identify a reproduction label made by me because it is as near to a perfect replica as it gets. You might even own my work and not know it, and I fucking hope you do.

[Anonymous No.4303174]

>>4303169
>the truth could ruin me
>I fail at life so hard I can't even find good specimens to sell

Hahaha. I doubt I own your junk, man. What city is your shop in? Be a man and at least tell us that. No name, just the city. Coward.

[Anonymous No.4303176]

>>4303169
The fact that you're so defensive about your counterfeit goods proves you know what you're doing is immoral and ILLEGAL might I add. I am reporting you to the feds as we speak.

[Anonymous No.4303178]

I like how Pat is throwing his own rep under the bus, because the price of his games takes priority here.

[Anonymous No.4303181]

>>4303174
>>4303176
The label-printing guy is countering the blight of your kind.

The only problem is that it isn't totally eradicating you.

[Anonymous No.4303184]

>>4303181
You have no moral compass and I think you're a pathetic person for defending fraud. May a fraudster sell you counterfeit medicine when you need it.

[Anonymous No.4303186]

>>4303174
I actually offer label reprinting as a service for customers seeking to replace worn or faded labels. So I don't think this is going to ruin me. Thing is, this is 4chan. If I post my business information here then I will have children like you ordering pizzas to my shop or mailing me glitter bombs or something equally retarded. Absolutely nothing good could come from me doxxing myself on 4chan. Oh, and I also operate through Ebay as well as a brick and mortar store. So if you buy off Ebay you could have my junk.


>>4303181
I just do it cause it makes me more money to do it, I'm not doing it from some sort of moral standpoint or anything.

[Anonymous No.4303187]

>>4303184
You're wishing death on me because I want people to enjoy NES games that assholes are hoarding?

And I lack the moral compass here, you complete freak?

[Anonymous No.4303192]

>>4303151
>the buyer gets a better product than what I could offer had I not replaced the label
except for the fact that the whole point of buying the cart to begin with is that you're paying for authenticity. if it was only about playing the game, the buyer could emulate for free or get a repro cart and it would play just as well. if you're not telling buyers straight up that the label is a repro you are a fraud.

[Anonymous No.4303196]

>>4303186
That's fine. I'm kind of a consequentialist, and besides that, it's mostly that the collector is a dickhead flying off the handle about the absolute *least* important aspect of playing a video game.

[Anonymous No.4303201]

>>4303187
I didn't wish your death, moron; I was merely illustrating how your line of thinking leads to very bad ends. The point about the medicine was that you would not be getting the value for your money.

You sound fat, btw. I know I'm right.

[Anonymous No.4303203]

>>4303192
Try to articulate, without emotional language, what the damage is he's incurring on people who love video games by printing labels?

[Anonymous No.4303205]

>>4303186
So, so defensive. And you are most certainly a coward. Pussy won't even say what city he in which he operates. Not even the city? Pussy.

[Anonymous No.4303206]

>>4303201
And my point was that you illustrated a complete lack of proportionality, because your all consuming obsession with turning a buck on SNES carts overrides everything else.

[Anonymous No.4303209]

ITT: people who cannot fathom others of whom play games AND who wish to keep them in good to great shape, or their desire to buy said games from seller with honor and integrity. You guys are cancer.

[Anonymous No.4303221]

>>4303203
>the damage is he's incurring on people
>he's
i think you meant I'm*. anyways, as has already been pointed out to (You), all collectibles share a common trait. value or perceived value is directly related to the condition of the item. it doesn't matter whether it's vidya, guitars, toys, comic books, cards, etc. the better the condition, the more valuable the item. the more original, the more valuable. this really isn't that hard to understand. if you aren't telling you're customers before the sale that they are buying a cart with a repro label, you are misrepresenting your product as something that is all original and therefore more valuable and worthy of a higher price. you're scamming people into over paying for something that is different from what you've lead them to believe they are getting. that's shitty business.

[Anonymous No.4303223]

>>4303206
You're making assumptions that are incorrect, child-mind. I play, buy, and sell games in that order. Like an ingredient list, what I do most regarding games is listed first.

I have never, ever ripped anyone off through any sort of means, unlike you. I fact, everything I have ever sold, the buyer was totally happy and knew that my products were of good quality or better. I suppose people like me are better at finding and cleaning old games, but that is not an excuse for you to cheat.

[Anonymous No.4303224]

>>4303209
Keeping your games in great shape is nobody's business but your own.

I just don't give a fuck about your leverage as a collector. And the more you bitch, the less I sympathize with you.

[Anonymous No.4303230]

>>4303223
>unlike you

Pump your brakes. I don't sell video games in the first place. They're not an investment or a "collectible" to me. They're fun. They're experiences that I'm not jealous with.

[Anonymous No.4303231]

>>4303224
You're a whiny thief. Not a great combo. We're all still waiting for what city Mr. Fraud calls home.

[Anonymous No.4303238]

>>4303231
i'm actually really curious about this as well. i've never heard of anyone offering repro labels as a """""""""""service""""""""""

[Anonymous No.4303239]

>>4303230
>rationalizations again
>I'm not a thief! Really!


For the adults, if someone wants to buy a reproduction or even sell them, fine, but be honest and up front about it, or else it's fraud, right? Right.

[Anonymous No.4303240]

>>4303231
You're closer to the thief than me. I bet even as a kid you checked the market value of a game before trading with your friends.

[Anonymous No.4303243]

>>4303239
Seriously, going on a witch-hunt over video game fraud on 4chan is your social justice cause?

You're a fucking freak, dude.

[Anonymous No.4303247]

>>4303240
Hahaha. Nope. Actually, I was the kid who let friends borrow games for weeks at a time for free. And they gave them back in great shape.
You're trolling me.

[Anonymous No.4303249]

>>4303221
>>4303223
>>4303231
You seem to think you're talking to me when in fact you are talking to the other anon. Let me propose something to you. If my reproduction labels are on the atomic level identical to one coming out of a Nintendo factory, have I scammed anybody? Because that's how fucking good they are. You seem to think you're some big shot of retro video games but I guarantee you could not identify my labels.

[Anonymous No.4303251]

>>4303247
It's obvious by your posture ITT you don't have a single bone of that character in your body.

[Anonymous No.4303257]

>>4303243
Wow! :) You're the most defensive thief I've ever heard of! hahaha. OH man. There is not witch-hunt, but you are in the wrong and don't want to be exposed. All I asked for was a city. Just a name of a city. If you were proud of your work, you'd say, but you realize in your tiny heart that most of your past and potential customers would disapprove, thus, you're stalling and making excuses replete with hyperbole.

[Anonymous No.4303263]

>>4303249
Yes, that would be a scam if you misled them or neglected to tell them the facts, as Captain Fraudster does. You would be selling new labels on old games, not old games with their original labels.

[Anonymous No.4303270]

>>4303249
>You seem to think you're some big shot of retro video games but I guarantee you could not identify my labels
i'm nobody, dude. i'm sure i couldn't. that doesn't change the fact that you're selling carts with repro labels and representing them as being authentic. you have no integrity. it's no better than selling a fake rolex or a pair of 1:1 reproduction jordans or yeezys for the same market price as the real thing.

[Anonymous No.4303271]

>>4303257
A name of what city? Shit, I'll give you three city names: Denver. Seattle. Montreal.

Calm the fuck down, you complete weirdo. I simply have an opinion that differs from yours.

[Anonymous No.4303274]

>>4303257
That's not me, leave that poor anon alone and quit asking for my fucking city I wont tell you. There's like three decent shops in town including mine that are in this business. Telling you my city would be the same as telling you my business.

[Anonymous No.4303275]

>>4303270
You're not really switching your style of writing enough to come off as a 3rd party, right now.

[Anonymous No.4303279]

>>4303271
I was asking the shitseller to name the city in which he operates, and the coward won't even say that much. Pathetic. I care about the hobby, while people like you manipulate and screw people over. Not cool.

[Anonymous No.4303280]

>>4303275
>everyone itt thinks i'm a scumbag
>i-it m-must be one anon same fagging

[Anonymous No.4303282]

>>4303280
There's four people in here, tops.

1) the printer
2) the collector
3) you (not-the-collector)
4) me (not-the-printer)

Or there's only two people in here. There really isn't an "everybody" in this shit-show.

[Anonymous No.4303293]

>>4303274
Leave someone alone? I asked a damn question, you snowflake. :) Reading words online is too hard, huh? Then get lost.

To the seller: What is your city? Just name the city, coward.

[Anonymous No.4303298]

>>4303293
You're just gonna have to learn network security a bit better if you want to dox either of us, because I doubt we're retarded enough to give up the goods to a raving autist losing his mind in /vr/.

[Anonymous No.4303305]

>>4303270
They probably do far worse things to people and even animals. Once a person feels they are free to deceive people, all bets are off. They cannot be trusted, which is why the coward who is so proud of his work, will not even say the city in which he operates, such as he is.

[Anonymous No.4303309]

>>4303298
You're assuming the worst and wrongly. Have a good day, thief/thieves.

To those with honor in the thread (I see two others sticking up for what's right), keep up the good fight against dishonesty.

[Anonymous No.4303310]

>>4303305
if you replace stickers on a video game, you must torture animals!!

[Anonymous No.4303312]

>>4303293
I'm saying leave him alone cause you're harassing him as though he's me, the guy who put all your panties in a knot over some pieces of paper. What good would knowing my city do you anyways? Are you going to start calling up all the retro game stores asking about labels and when you find mine you're going to yell at my employees over the phone?

[Anonymous No.4303314]

>>4303282
again, dude, i'm nobody. i don't even necessarily agree with or care enough about you outing yourself or sharing your city or whatever. if i were you i wouldn't give that information out either. the granpa vidya board is still 4chan so i don't blame you. however, it is pretty telling in this case, considering that on one hand you claim to be proud to offer, as you see it a superior product and experience. yet on the other hand, you're reluctant to show any of your work. my guess is, this is because you know what you're doing isn't ethical. again, i don't care to know about your city or any of that shit, but would you tell me if you know anyone in my area that does this? i want to make sure i never buy from them.

[Anonymous No.4303315]

>>4303310
Slippery slopes have always been proven to be true, so I can see Mr. Fraud neglecting an animal, which can be considered torture. Thieves tend to commit other crimes, often petty and cruel. Anyway, I just want everyone to get what they paid for without deceit or tricks. Too much to ask, huh?

[Anonymous No.4303319]

>>4303314
Nah. I think it's pretty clear the printing guy isn't sharing his info because the lunatic guy is very very blatantly hostile and threatened him in advance.

[Anonymous No.4303320]

>>4303312
Are you on something? No one "has" anybody to be told to leave them alone. Go outside if you can't handle reading text-that can be ignored. Wow. Fucking wow.

[Anonymous No.4303323]

>>4303305
i mean i'd want to know if the cart was buying was all original or not, sure. but disingenuous sellers abuse animals now?

[Anonymous No.4303325]

>>4303319
I never threatened anyone. You guys are so full of crap. What a joke.

Just tell the name of the city, coward. I just want to know the name of the city that is getting screwed.

[Anonymous No.4303327]

>>4303325
The name of the city getting screwed? Well Detroit is a pretty good cause to take up.

[Anonymous No.4303329]

>>4303325
dude, give it up. i'd want to know if i was unknowingly buying repro shit too, but anyone who's been here for more than a week knows better than to post any personal information on here. i really don't blame him.

[Anonymous No.4303330]

>>4303323
Maybe. They do one thing that is wrong, maybe they do a lot of other wrongs in the world too. Criminals have rap sheets. I think, no, I know some of you are making more of this than what it is. All I did was ask questions, make some arguments, and you guys are going SJW on me. "OH leave him alone! You threatened him! My pearls!" Give me a break. By all means, don't chat with me if you don't want to.

[Anonymous No.4303335]

My only real problem with it, is that I wouldn't wanna pay extra for a label.

But then again I don't care about pristine copies and I hope they get sold to one of those assholes who buy up every copy of collectible games they find.

[Anonymous No.4303337]

Here's my work. Same amount of gloss, same feel, same everything as original. It's even placed on the cartridge the same way, perfectly smooth. Any imperfect job is redone, I do not tolerate poor reproduction jobs.

Now you guys asking for my city seriously need to consider that at this point I feel like I would be placing my employees lives at risk considering the shit you've been saying. At least one of you is clearly unhinged and I just don't want to deal with that shit.

[Anonymous No.4303338]

>>4303329
All I asked for was the city, man. I truly have zero interest in bothering anyone or whatever. However, it's not too much to ask to know what city to avoid buying games in, you know? If the guy won't say, then fine. I knew he was full of shit anyway; he knows he's in the wrong.

[Anonymous No.4303340]

>>4303338
Better stop buying off Ebay too, I already told you I operate online as well.

[Anonymous No.4303342]

Can't you people just report shitposting instead of wasting your time arguing in circles? No one is ever going to concede that you're right.

[Anonymous No.4303349]

>>4303330
Don't chat with you?

Haha, you're jumping in everyone's face who disagrees with you.

[Anonymous No.4303357]

>>4303340
You're a cancer. And no, I have never bought your stuff. Some of us know how to tell, and of course I am not telling you THAT. Hey, good luck to you, sooner or later you may get caught and have to answer for it.


>>4303337
No one in this thread has said anything threatening. You're just making an implausible excuse at this point, but I didn't expect any integrity from you.

[Anonymous No.4303358]

>>4303337
it's only one kid clamoring for your business. i agree that you should stay silent on that. to clarify, that does look great, but from an ethical standpoint i disagree with putting it on a store shelf without a warning or sign that explicitly states that the label is a reproduction, regardless of quality of work. i'm not even opposed to buying a cart with a repro label, i'd just want to know before i buy so i know what i'm paying for. if you are selling the game as all original when it's not, that's fraud. plain and simple.

[Anonymous No.4303361]

>>4303349
These are words on a screen. No one has jumped into anyone's face. It's really sad and telling what lengths some of you will go to in order to defend fraud. Fine, dude won't say what city he rips off. Life goes on.

[Anonymous No.4303368]

Oh, and I am not the poster who mentioned turning them into the authorities, is that what you guys are talking about? At any rate, people have a right to report fraud, but for the record as it were, I didn't say that. -the guy who posted a lot

Relax, dudes. Play some games maybe.

[Anonymous No.4303375]

Fucking hate this dicknugget.

[Anonymous No.4303389]

>>4303375
Pat, Mr. Fraud, or one of the guys on the side of honesty? I think the funniest part was when he admitted to deceiving customers by telling them of the reproductions-only if they ask.

[Anonymous No.4303392]

this thread is full of kneejerk hyper-autists who get into a rage because someone did something to their personal belongings they THEY paid for WITH THEIR OWN MONEY. On top of that you retards are complaining about a negro who is making reproduction labels as a service and advertising as reproduction labels and yet you autists call him fraud for telling exactly how it is? Next you fuckwits start making comparisons to legitimately fucked up criminals all because he's simply restoring things as a service? being somewhat disingenuous as a salesman is somehow connected to abusing animals? what the fuck is wrong with you autists, you are the reason this board has gone downhill because you start shitflinging, all because someone on a mongolian basket weaving forum from the early 2000's did something you dont like? you autists are the reason why I cant enjoy this shitty hobby and discuss it in a civilized way anymore.

This board is fucking worse than /v/, and you cunts know how cancer it is.

[Anonymous No.4303395]

If you're buying off ebay just look at the other items, if they all have perfect labels then ask if they are reproductions. If they sell a lot of old cartridges the odds they would all have perfect labels is pretty low. Especially if the rest of the package (if any) has any wear.

[Anonymous No.4303401]

>>4303389
I've never met Pat or seen him (i don't go to cons), but i've heard stories about how most ecelebs and youtubers outside of billy and jay are whiners.

[Anonymous No.4303402]

>>4303392
If they were up front about restoring, that's one thing, but not advertising that fact and by the own admission only telling customers if they ask, proves they are being deceitful. They realize that a buyer would want an all original game, not a hybrid, generally. I swear most people here do not read, or stop reading after a few words.

Also, this board is fun, but this thread has been stupid as fuck, thanks to fraudsters who want to dumb everyone down.

[Anonymous No.4303403]

>>4303392
>this thread is full of kneejerk hyper-autists
it was literally one kid sperging out and one guy anonymously admitting to ripping people off. i don't really see how that ruins a board or makes a thread full of anything.

[Anonymous No.4303408]

>>4303403
It's every time restoration in general comes into discussion. And face it, the shit-flinging has been the majority of posts itt.

[Anonymous No.4303410]

>>4303401
Oh, I got the scoop too. A guy on youtube that I've been watching for years calls him out all the time. Pat is a blocking chode on youtube. He's very defensive about his opinions. He thinks his book is the authority on NES games. Heh The main thing is, to me anyway, is that Pat is at fault for some plentiful games being way overpriced, which feeds the fraudulent because they rationalize and see that as their excuse to rip people off in the name of giving the masses what they want. Ugh. Yuck. Bad people. I can;'t imagine being their neighbors.

[Anonymous No.4303413]

>>4303403
Please show an example of someone here "sperging out". I think people focused on the one poster who threatened to call the cops or something. This is an important topic, though. I care about games and honesty in gaming, even if it's just on the selling end this time.

[Anonymous No.4303416]

>>4303408
i mean, you're not wrong. but restoration vs reproduction is a topic that comes up in every collectable hobby since it affects the value of the items.

[Anonymous No.4303417]

>>4303392
one of many inevitable results of having a board that discusses products that are not produced any more; you take the tribalism that already exists among vidya enthusiasts, then you add on to that the fact that most of these titles are so old that there's literally nothing new to say about them, then you add on to that a slowly dwindling availability of physical copies of the product, then you add on to that the fact that we all get older and have less time to do this anyway, then you add on to that the fact that way too goddamn many people become obsessed with nostalgia, and then all the other shit besides

too fucking many threads with the neckbeard equivalent of dudebros trying to spear each other with their dicks through the internet

[Anonymous No.4303419]

>>4303413
see
>>4303338
>>4303330
>>4303325
>>4303315
>>4303309
>>4303257
>>4303231
>>4303223
>>4303205

[Anonymous No.4303423]

>>4303419
Fighting for justice is not "sperging out" you filthy animal.

[Anonymous No.4303425]

>>4303419
Still waiting for an example. All I did was ask fair questions and make some points. You guys are the SJWs of video games. You ignore, lie, obfuscate and lie some more.

[Anonymous No.4303427]

>>4303423
>le ebin justice to capitalisms maymay
go back to /r/communism you fucking twat.

[Anonymous No.4303428]

>>4303423
>sarcastic guy thinks I think I'm Judge Dredd.

Gimmie a break.

[Anonymous No.4303434]

>>4303423
>attempted doxxing
>making baseless accusations of animal abuse
>fighting for justice

Do you even parse the shit that comes out of your own mouth?

[Anonymous No.4303437]

>>4303425
i'm on your side dude, honestly. that dude is a shitbag. but do you really think someone who openly admitted to scamming his customers would then post his business here?

[Anonymous No.4303438]

>>4303425
Tell me your name, where you live, and where you work. I'm sure you have no problem with this cause I just want to know where to stay the fuck away from in case autism actually can be transmitted.

[Anonymous No.4303439]

>>4303434
First off, that's not me, second, no one doxxed anyone. Asking for someone's city is not doxing. Jesus Christ. Please someone sane talk some sense into them, God.

[Anonymous No.4303441]

>>4303427
I'm not a pinko but I will not abide by someone breaking the law for their own personal gain.

[Anonymous No.4303445]

>>4303437
The way I see it, the shithead not giving his business name and location is an elaborate ruse to let the autist know that his fabricated/restored shit could be anywhere, down the road from him, 500 miles from him, the autist wouldnt be able to tell the difference between real and fake, then has a mental breakdown over whether a sticky slip of paper on a piece of plastic that he bought is real or not.

[Anonymous No.4303446]

>>4303437
No, of course not. (and thanks) I simply want to have a chance at avoiding his crap in the city he's in, is all. All this talk beyond that floors me. I think the thing is that I won the argument and all they got is weird false accusations.

OK, in an attempt to shift the thread onto something positive, I'd say it's OK to clean a cartridge and label and sell as pristine, so long as the work is immaculate, so long as it's all original. (Ducks incoming arrows, people accusing me of slavery because reasons)

[Anonymous No.4303454]

>>4303445
Calling people autists because they have differing opinions has gotten old. Ok I think nothing else can be said to those that support fraudulent business dealings.
Onto other things..
It's not right that common games are commanding rare prices, that's a part of the bigger problem facing the retro gaming market.

[Anonymous No.4303469]

>>4303454
i call him autist because something that he doesnt like is in a thread about things that he doesnt like, then proceeds to get angry over said things he doesnt like

to be honest with you its all because theres limited numbers of things now in this hobby and its really just a result of rising popularity. see old 60s cars and stuff, lots of them used to be dirt cheap but now is expensive as hell due to popularity from things like nostalgia and being seen as cultural icons in music and film.

[Anonymous No.4303487]

>>4303469
Yeah, I agree with you, yet there's still no excusing ripping people off in the name of providing a service. NES games are the worst with Playstation (1) games catching up fast. Does that mean I'd be justified in faking up "real" original boxes so I can get more dollars?

What get me is that many games are being priced out for many people who won't have a chance to play the real hardware. And emulation is still hit and miss often enough that it's not a total replacement. Your thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4303503]

>>4303110
Please link it, sounds fucking hilarious.

[Anonymous No.4303510]

>>4303487
>with Playstation (1) games catching up fast
that's really worrying for me since my PSX "collection" of sorts is slowly growing over the past few years and I'm still buying titles secondhand, luckily I haven't come across fake or overpriced copies yet. Still have no reason to resell either.
I think the priced out games and systems are the exact reason why those s/nes mini and other emulation consoles are being sold, so that others with not as much money can give the games a try, but even those have prices marked up by scalpers which is unfortunate. Emulation may still not be perfect yet but you really just kind of have to make do with what you have at times.

[Anonymous No.4303517]

>>4303510
Repro guy here, don't worry cause I don't do PSX games. They're not worth the effort of dealing with those perforated lines and the manuals. It's just way too much work for something that isn't worth nearly as much as Nintendo products. That said I would buy what you want soon cause PSX and PS2 are about to become trendy I think.

[Anonymous No.4303518]

Pat, if you're here, you're no better than those resellers at Kobey's. I think you're an alright guy at times but your hypocrisy and anger in this hobby comes out with each new podcast. Stop being a douche.

Ian is alright but gets carried away with his sjw cuckery. Not everything has to be political.

[Anonymous No.4303527]

>>4303503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=102&v=IoHmBn6su4U


Pat is a baby.
Haha, all those guys are why I avoid conventions. That troll looking guy in back right, heh he causes a lot of price-outs.

[Anonymous No.4303536]

>>4303510
Hey, I hope you can collect as cheaply as possible, all the best.
You're probably right on the money regarding the Mini series too. I have to agree that such is a good way to play games with the old hardware either being priced out or hard to locate. The funny thing is, instead of alleviating price gouging, the Mini series is just another signpost that people can point to that speaks to the (alleged) scarcity and rarity of some "real" NES games. Like some have said, I am not paying 30 dollars for Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt, one of the most produced Nintendo products in its history. You know? Good talking, regardless.

[Anonymous No.4303538]

>>4303527
holy shit what a fucking child

[Anonymous No.4303572]

>>4303538
Pat is not a fucking child. That video doesn't tell the whole story. He originally agreed to sell it to Pat, we shook hands and everything. THEN he went over to that other scumbag reseller and told him with the SOLE INTENTION of getting a better deal. It is obvious why why Pat was angry and any one of you limp dick virgin nerds would be angry too if the same thing happened to you.

[Anonymous No.4303576]

>>4303572
>we
fuck off pat, nobody likes you here

[Anonymous No.4303582]

>>4303572
>we shook hands
>we

[Anonymous No.4303583]

>>4303538
I heard that video was not in context and that the guy had actually made a deal with Pat and they agreed and shook hands and everything. It is understandable why Pat looks less than happy if the guy went back on the deal and then cornered Pat with a camera in his face while he talked about screwing him.

[Anonymous No.4303585]

>Pat is not a fucking child. That video doesn't tell the whole story. He originally agreed to sell it to Pat, we shook hands and everything. THEN he went over to that other scumbag reseller and told him with the SOLE INTENTION of getting a better deal. It is obvious why why Pat was angry and any one of you limp dick virgin nerds would be angry too if the same thing happened to you.

[Anonymous No.4303586]

>>4303583
>>4303585
Pat. You're a bitch and you got yoked the fuck up in that video LMAO.

[Anonymous No.4303589]

>>4303585
It's almost like the Patster has stepped on some toes and some are paying him back.

[Anonymous No.4303590]

>>4303585
>>4303585
>tfw you pretend to be someone defending yourself on an online retro videogame imageboard, accidentally fuck yourself and then delete the post only to have a beautiful anon save and repost it, firmly cementing the moment you ejaculated in your own rectum for the internet to relish for all time

[Anonymous No.4303591]

>>4303590
I don't even know who any of these retards are because I don't watch cancerous e-celebs, but holy shit what a faggot.

[Anonymous No.4303597]

>>4303585
Btw I'm getting into the reselling business and I'm gonna be reproing the fuck out of labels.

And I KNOW it was you earlier, you complete fucking wimp!

[Anonymous No.4303603]

>>4303583
>>4303585

[Anonymous No.4303607]

>we

LMFAO
Pat, I just want you to know that Silent Rob is better than you in every way. Screenshots, bitch. Haha whiny price-gouger. Watching that video makes me want to buy a reproduction Little Nemo and Stadium Events for cheap.

[Anonymous No.4303615]

>>4303527
That grimsie guy who's real name is Scott is a baby too. I've heard stories of him sperging out over not getting a price down by $3 and flipping out on people at garage sales

[Anonymous No.4303639]

>>4303615

Have you ever heard of anyone who is this obsessive over video game collecting NOT being a complete sperg?

[Anonymous No.4303652]

>>4303441
>im lawful
>yes, I most yell at people on the internet for breaking the law instead of becoming a part of the law system
???

[Anonymous No.4303659]

>>4303607
Isn't Little Nemo already cheap?

[Anonymous No.4303667]

>>4303659
Huh. That's odd. It was sky high last I checked. Some of those games do wildly fluctuate when they don't sell. As long as I'm here, I'll share the pain of not buying a Bucky O Hare for 12 bucks a few years ago.
No NES game should be worth more than 100 dollars top with few exceptions. I am not paying 800 bones or more for a game that may cease to function at any time.

[Anonymous No.4303685]

>>4298339
Bigpimpin.mid

[Anonymous No.4303686]

>>4303667
little samson

[Anonymous No.4303710]

>>4303686
Ah-ha! Brain fart. Thank you. Little Nemo probably will be "worth" too much soon enough, thanks to Pat the Nes Pricer.

[Anonymous No.4303718]

>>4298339
>COOL STOR4⹁ BRO.
The comma is backwards.

[Anonymous No.4304949]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuo0njOI-qE

as if the last one wasn't bad enough, he's at it again. I love the guy but he needs to stop defacing shit

[Anonymous No.4304967]

>>4304949
Nothing wrong with him relabeling stuff.

[Anonymous No.4304998]

>>4304949
>Returning labels to near factory quality
>Defacing
>If done properly theyre indistinguishable from the real thing
These aren't golden age comic books bruh. Civilian technology has caught up to manufacturing procedures. Repo labels are a GOOD thing.

[Anonymous No.4305276]

>>4304998

What I don't get is how all these spergs would rather the stuff be would rather the stuff be worthless than be restored.

Faggots like Pat wouldn't even buy the original if the label was completely torn off, but he will throw tendies and piss bottles at anyone that restores the label.

[Anonymous No.4305292]

>>4303527
That beard makes him looks like he hid a bomb in the restroom.

[Anonymous No.4305298]

>>4305276
>>4304998
>>4304967
relabelling is one thing but taking a knife and scraping away the plastic is another. but it's his stuff and I'm mostly just trying to get a rise out of the spergs that go mental over this shit.

[Anonymous No.4305393]

>>4305298

The most hilarious part is that he has to specifically put "reproduction" on it, otherwise it's near impossible to tell the difference

[Anonymous No.4305401]

>>4305393
I bet if you saw it in person the difference between the original labeling and his reproduction label would be very evident.

[Anonymous No.4305408]

>>4305401

I'm sure if you held them up side by side it would, but judging by how much trouble gamestop was having with taking in repro labels, it's not obvious to the majority of people, especially with no reference

[Anonymous No.4305418]

>>4305408
man I don't think gamestop cares if they sell fakes or not. it's too much work on their part to weed them out and employees don't get enough training for it.

[Anonymous No.4305637]

>>4298723

Lol, really?

[Anonymous No.4305641]

Has anyone listened to his other podcast?
It's literally just Pat talking to bigger youtubers constantly mentioning how he as less subs. It's really fucking cringy

[Anonymous No.4305669]

>>4305641
what's it called? I want to hear this cringe and I don't even know who this faggot is.

[Anonymous No.4305674]

>>4305669
the not so common podcast.

[Anonymous No.4305689]

>>4301189
It's autism

[Anonymous No.4305746]

>>4305641
Pat doesn't realize that he doesn't actually deserve more subs.

All he does is the shitty podcast. If he posted more original content he'd probably get more traction. Of course, instead of making a comprehensive NES review series on youtube, he instead made an absolutely terrible book, which got him zero traction on the platform.

I swear... people just don't understand how to get bigger on youtube. It's not rocket science. Produce content.

[Anonymous No.4305769]

>>4303585

>we

[Anonymous No.4305783]

>>4305674
that was painful to listen to, especially when the first thing he asks pbg is "did you go to college??? XD"

[Anonymous No.4306568]

>>4298085
Pat's such a bitch
>Oh no, my labels
>The history of that piss stain on that crumbling label is important
>Another YouTuber said something I didn't like
>He's so mean
>I'm gonna devote a video to him being mean
Dude seems like a loser. And that's coming from someone that browses 4chan

[Anonymous No.4306590]

>>4305769
>Wuz?

[Anonymous No.4306595]

>>4306590
>kangz?

[Anonymous No.4306792]

>>4303221
Have any of you considered you might just be giant fucking faggots at this point? You're arguing over a goddamn label on a NES cart. No one gives a shit, it's a fucking label.

I know for a fact a couple of the games I own on the GBA are counterfeit. I got them off ebay for super cheap and they run fine. I don't give a fuck if it's not the original label because I want to play the game. You're losing sight of the point of owning a game because you're autistic retards paying insane prices for something. You are the cancer that is fucking up retro vidya, you're making it an investment rather than an object to have fun with.

[Anonymous No.4306848]

>>4305401
>>4305408
>>4305418
If game stop tried their hand at repro labels I would expect one would be able to spot slight discoloration and gloss difference. Paper gloss can be a pain to match sometimes but handmade ones? an expert could easily make one indistinguishable.

[Anonymous No.4306928]

>>4298085
This guy looks like a faggot. He's a faggot isn't he?

[Anonymous No.4306931]

>>4306595
>AAAAANNNNNDDD SSHHHHEEIIIIITTT

[Anonymous No.4307267]

>>4306568
Scumbag seller detected! Take your shitty counterfeit labels and get the fuck out of my hobby.

[Anonymous No.4307284]

>>4306568
Pat is a loser.

He's a basic bitch. His opinions are milquetoast, and he goes in on the most easy targets ever.

Guys totally out to lunch when it comes to modern gaming. He's just a hoarder who thinks his game collection is his retirement fund, and is doing everything in his power to make sure his M82 unit retains its value when he sells it,.

[Anonymous No.4307349]

>People who care about the labels or boxes
What the fuck is wrong with them? the game is the important part.

[Anonymous No.4307360]

You know its bad when people like PAT and other OCD nerds bitched so fuckin much, 8 bit guy had to show that hes putting text on his labels saying Reproduction Label.
No one should bitch now about him doing that.

[Anonymous No.4307389]

Why is so hard for people to understand that collectors want original games and the original materials that came with games?
Any other collectible is subject to the same.
Whether you like it or not video games are now a collectible.

[Anonymous No.4307512]

>>4307389
Everyone knows this.

But for you to do things to your own stuff, and get a huge amount of flak for it from "collectors" who will likely never even see your stuff in person, let alone own it, for ruining it's "collector value" by putting a reproduction label on it, or retrobrighting, or whatever the fuck else, is fucking retarded.

Collector's ruin everything they come across. No hobby has been made better by collectors. Enthusiasts have made some amazing stuff, but they always come before collectors.

[Anonymous No.4307539]

>>4303337
what kind of paper/materials do you use?

[Anonymous No.4307553]

>>4298123
pats shit book https://mega.nz/#!BYUwnaYQ!zT1ey16Ff6aQhW9jnO0TRiZL6bC86HwL75o4zDEGHMY

[Anonymous No.4307724]

>>4307553
>tfw it's not even worth the download.