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What are your favorite JRPGs with a female protagonist/female protagonists in a JRPG?

>> No.4295334
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this is definitely the first that comes to mind and probably objectively the best if you can get past the long exposition and tragedy of the week segments (some of them have monsters and shit and are pretty cool though).

>> No.4295340
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Also like every SaGa game can optionally have a female protagonist and they're basically all great

>> No.4295342

Wild Arms 3. Virginia Maxwell is a breath fresh air in that she's just portrayed fucking normally, as opposed to some weakling damsel or a carpet-munching dyke which are so common from Japan.

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started playing Star Ocean: 2nd Story on PS1 a while ago. I picked the dude but Rena seems great too.

>>4295327
next to Terra, Ceres is cool too.

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>>4295327

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>>4295327

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>> No.4295376

>>4295342
>carpet-munching dyke
say that to my face not online motherfucker

>> No.4295389
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nekketsu tairiku is a shit game, but it almost redeems itself by letting you be a little girl that wears full plate armor

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DQ4 Heroine > everything.

>> No.4295408

>>4295327
>whiny, ineffectual girl
>any kind of positive example of a female protagonist

FF6 was pretty badly written. Terra whines about how powerless she is throughout the entire story. Celes would have made a better lead character.

>> No.4295409

>>4295389
So I wasn't the only person in the world to play this. Naga is really the best character.

>> No.4295449

>>4295408
"powerless" is wrong, she was just confused due to the brainwashing, killings and because she realized she was different from everybody else being an Esper and all that. When did she ever not use her power? She battles all the time although she doesn't really want to but it's not the same as powerless. In fact, she was afraid of her powers.

>> No.4295553

>>4295449
>She battles all the time

Except in cutscenes, which is what makes her characterization even more retarded. Between her innate sorceress powers and her latent esper powers, Terra still acts like she can't make an ounce of difference to the resistance, insisting on standing aside while her male companions usher the party to safety. Terra ends up being a figurehead and nothing more.

It's bad writing. I think the scenario's creator just wanted Terra to be his perfect waifu, and he couldn't do that by giving Terra any agency.

>> No.4295556

>>4295408
You didn't understood the game did you?

>> No.4295564 [DELETED] 

>>4295342
are you one of those SJWs who protest the black isles remakes, by the way?

>> No.4295580

>>4295564
I don't know what you're talking about, and I am about the opposite end of the spectrum from a SJW that one can get. Perhaps I used wrong terminology. I mean female characters from japan usually only come in two models: the damsel in distress, or ACTION GIRL, with far too few female characters who fall in between the two extremes. Virginia Maxwell is the only female JRPG protagonist I can think of who also doesn't fit within the two aforementioned tropes.

>> No.4295598

>>4295553
Terra has no reason to care. None of those people are her people. She has no people. She lives in a world deprived of any meaning or orientation. She doesn't even really feel guilty about killing people or anything, she just doesn't know what to feel about it period.

Whether the empire wins or the resistance wins, it doesn't make much difference to her at all. She's not of the same world, or of any world., because she's caught in-between with nobody else really being like her.

>> No.4295874

>>4295598
When you think of it, it's a /pol/ type of message about rootlessness and miscegenation.

>> No.4296361

>>4295327

>violated Heroine
>nanako (Serina's a bitch)

>> No.4296515 [DELETED] 

>>4295408
>every lead character needs to be a power fantasy

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>>4295327
Energy Breaker is a cool game.

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>>4296520

>> No.4296541 [DELETED] 

can't really name any that haven't been mentioned that are retro
>>4295342
This isn't retro either, but would you consider Shion Uzuki the same? She seems like an ordinary woman.

>> No.4296545 [DELETED] 

>>4295408
Did you even play the game?
>>>/tumblr/

>> No.4296605 [DELETED] 

>>4295408
To be fair, Terra is one of the angtiest, flat characters in the series, comparable maybe only to Squall. But I guess that was the point with her, I guess.

>> No.4296608

>>4295408
To be fair, Terra is one of the angstiest, flat characters in the series, comparable maybe only to Squall. But I guess that was the point with her, I guess.

>> No.4296617 [DELETED] 

stop insulting my wife

>> No.4296623
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Rhapsody a musical adventure is one of the most fun and comfy video games I've ever played with one of the most fun and relateable protagonists I have ever seen and has the joy of playing as

>> No.4296624

>>4295327
Locke is a male.

>> No.4296639

>>4296624
not the protagonist

>> No.4296680

>>4296639
Closest thing to one if I recall. First person you control solo.
The game had a really huge cast of characters all with their own stories going on for the most part.

>> No.4296685

>>4296680
He's essentially "The Female" reversed while Terra & Celes are the leads with Terra as the Protag. Terra is the first you plays as (Back when that mattered) and is integral to the plot. She's also the only one to get a special sprite during the ending.

And if Locke was, he'd be in marketing for the leads of the series. Nor is he playable in Dissidia, in Record Keeper is mediocre, and Brave Exvius he's a trash unit that can't get to max rank At best he gets marketed as the "VI Boy" when they don't want to use Setzer, Edgar, or Sabin.

>> No.4296704 [DELETED] 

>>4296685
Terra has a large role but she just isn't the protagonist. You don't follow her althroughout the story and she doesn't make a significant impact on where the narrative goes. They did a similar ensemble thing with FFXIII with Lightning have the most promos but isn't really the protag.

>> No.4296708

>>4296704
Terra is literally the entire plot prior to WoR, and everything after WoR is unfocused twattle in regards to plot.

I'll give you Lightning/FF13, sure, but you've missed the point completely with Terra.

>> No.4296719

>>4296704
By your logic, neither is Locke. Best comparison for Locke is Balthier, a proxy for a greater plot point (Locke to the Returners - Balthier with his father). I disagree on Terra not being important, her joining the Returners is what leads to the fight back, the connection with the Esper World, and giving the reality of what it is that everyone is fighting for. She is also key to how the Empire gained power in the first place.

Neutrally, neither Terra nor Locke are required to get to beat the game in the World of Ruin.

And just because Vanille is the narrator, doesn't mean that Lightning isn't the protagonist.

>> No.4296727 [DELETED] 

>>4296719
>And just because Vanille is the narrator, doesn't mean that Lightning isn't the protagonist.
Look up what a protagonist is and see how much of that applies to Light

>> No.4296773

>>4295327
the Dragon Quest games are usually my go-to games for female protags in JRPGs but games like Chrono Trigger had pretty much no unlikable cast of characters there. never exoected to like Marle and Lucca and Ayla was a fucking boss

>> No.4296776 [DELETED] 

>>4296719
>By your logic ...
>proceeds into strawman
kys

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>>4295327
There are many JRPGs with female protagonists, especially those with character choice which includes gender so it's a bit hard to choose, but just to make a few examples of definite female protagonists I like:

Liza(Front Mission 2)
Lenneth(Valkyrie Profile)
Sif(Romancing SaGa)
Katarina, Ellen(Romancing SaGa 3)
Asellus, Emilia(SaGa Frontier)
Minerva(Princess Minerva)
Dela(Brandish series)

Though there are many games which lets you have a main character with gender choice, like some Dragon Quests, SMT If..., Mystic Ark, Romancing SaGa 2 and so on, but in most of them there's really no difference between genders other than design and stats, so I just skip those and also those with "generic" character creation like Zill O'll, which have nevertheless good female MCs.
>>4296778
YOU LITTLE KISAMA

>> No.4296836 [DELETED] 

>>4296813
get your fingers out of my asshole, anon

>> No.4296839 [DELETED] 
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retro

>> No.4296848

>>4296608
I think the entire point of the game was to make everyone as badly written as possible to see what they could get away with and still have bad game play.

Americans loved it apparently.

>> No.4296958

>>4296848
>Americans loved it apparently.

Speak for yourself. I'm an American and FF6 is definitely bottom-tier for me.

>> No.4297052
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Chrono Trigger

>> No.4297059

>>4296848
Every single character in FF6 is a Japanese trope.

>> No.4297065

>>4297059
Nah you're thinking of FF5

>> No.4297074

>>4297065
Or am I thinking of literally every FF game

>> No.4297079

>>4295408
But anon, he was talking about Celes. Terra isn't even required to beat the game, how can she be the lead?

>> No.4297083

>>4295327
FF6 was more an ensemble cast than one with a specific protag. Even if you wanted to go that route though, you could say it shifts between Tera and Celes midway through.

>> No.4297725

>>4296708
>everything after WoR is unfocused twattle in regards to plot
And we love it for it.

>> No.4298775

>>4297725
>we all loved it
says you. I can't stand FF games taking a nosedive after the second half of the game. especially when you just reduce all your characters just spamming Ultima by the end of it

>> No.4298998

>>4295354
When I was young. Rena was the obvious choice because she gets an awesome, cool and brooding swordsman while Claude gets an annoying little twerp as his special character.

Then, when you grow up you realise that they both suck and that Bowman is love.

>>4295334
Great game that fascinates me to this day. I finished it five times, and I still can't understand why I liked it so much.

>>4295340
Loved the first Saga Frontier game and the second one was good. Should get into more, but not sure they are titles for me.

>>4295342
To be fair, all Wild Arms games are excellent. 3 is great, though.

>>4295327
Is Terra the main character, though? I always thought that the point of VI was that everyone could be the main character and that nobody really is.

>> No.4299768

>>4298775
>we all loved it
I didn't say "all".
>FF games taking a nosedive after the second half of the game
I disagree that VI takes a nosedive in WoR. It's more that it drastically changes subgenres and goes from a linear cinematic experience to a fairly open world with a checklist of quests to complete. The latter is different, and more like earlier JRPGs or even WRPGs, but it isn't a nosedive.
>you just reduce all your characters just spamming Ultima by the end of it
Fair point.

>> No.4300561

>>4298998
>Great game that fascinates me to this day. I finished it five times, and I still can't understand why I liked it so much.
It's the first game I ever replayed as soon as I finished it.

>>4298775
The only retro FFs that are really guilty of that is VII and VIII, honestly. At their end game your characters just end up homogenized. With FFVI, if you're in a situation where all your characters are just spamming Ultima then you spent the effort to teach multiple characters Ultima from the one Esper that grants you the spell at a rate of 1. If you're doing that then you what do you expect?

You should try Brave New World if you want FFVI with a gameplay overhaul. It does a good job of specializing the cast and making every character valuable.

>> No.4300730

>>4295327

Magical Knight Rayearth was decent.

>> No.4302675

Septerra Core

>> No.4302690

>>4298998
Dias is kinda a douche though.

>> No.4302701

>>4295327
>whom
>not WHOMST'VE

get fucked, translators.

>> No.4303935

>>4302690
He is. But he's also a long haired katana using brooding swordsman. At thirteen/fourteen that was far more important than character. You basically got Sephiroth in your party and fuck if that wasn't all that mattered.

>> No.4305924

>>4297052
Granted, you need to wait for most of the game until she can be a lead.

>> No.4305931

In Baldur's Gate you can be fucking anything.

>> No.4305940

>>4295327
Legend of Mana, if you're into that. Since it's October, Koudelka.

Parasite Eve is also pretty inspired by JRPGs, and Kedel

>> No.4305942

>>4305940
>Parasite Eve is also pretty inspired by JRPGs.
Press F to pay respects to my backspace key, sorry about the last part of that. sentence.

>> No.4305954

>>4305942
Parasite Eve is already a JRPG, there is no part of that sentence that you should not be ashamed of.