/vr/ - Retro Games

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Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:28:24 2013 No.428315 [Reply] [Original]

Who else finds beta stuff in video games fascinating as fuck?

I remember as a kid seeing magazine scans of Super Mario RPG, and then wondering why those things never showed up in the actual game. It always made me wonder what could have been. Same thing with Zelda OoT.

For me, the idea of an early version of a game suddenly getting leaked is one of the things that excites me the most. The sheer possibility of getting to look at and even play with an early, alpha or beta version of a game before it changed into what we know today is one I wish would happen more often.

So yeah, discuss retro video game beta leaks, prototypes, and other stuff that was covered in media but was then changed later on for release.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:33:53 2013 No.428334

Related to this, here's an awesome site that documents content that is still in the actual game ROMs but was cut, removed, or replaced by what is currently in the final game:

http://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor

A lot of stuff that is shown in pre-release promotional material for games that was later cut tends to actually still be in the game's code in some form or another, from unused tiles or collision maps to entire levels.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:36:23 2013 No.428340 File: 235 KB, 451x350, marworld.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] super mario world beta always gets me hard

>>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddNgY_Rvsg0&fmt=18 Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:37:53 2013 No.428346 So apparently Chrono Trigger was supposed to have a different battle theme for each time period, you could walk around 1999, and Prehistory would've had another dungeon. Vid somewhat related.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:39:53 2013 No.428349 File: 82 KB, 307x323, giggle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>428340 >Super Mario Bros. 4

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:45:23 2013 No.428362
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What are the chances that devs still have early builds of their games stored away in some computer or something? I know several prototypes and beta builds have been leaked many times. A recent example is the RE2 beta, which is incomplete and glitchy but still interesting as hell.

I always fantasize about somehow a very early version of OoT getting leaked on the internet. The sheer thought of it gives me a stiffy. I wouldn't give a fuck if it was bugged to shit. I'd still jack off to the early models untextured models and shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:45:23 2013 No.428363 File: 496 KB, 226x200, tumblr_m6vfoynIQj1r3zat8.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>428346

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:49:53 2013 No.428375 >>428370 That little cat girl is givin me bedroom eyes, y'all.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:51:23 2013 No.428379
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To this day people on Japanese message boards mention the location tests of Darkstalkers 2 and all the weird stuff that was in it. Pic related, this is what Donovan's Blizzard Sword move looked like. It would fall down from the top of the screen, sort of like Anakaris's Sarcophagus drop move.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:51:53 2013 No.428381

>>428370
This one's awesome, because we actually ended up with several leaks. The first one was pretty unfinished and buggy, but later on we got a nearly finished build that just required a bit of patching to make it a fully playable game. Aside from the lack of multiplayer, it was for all intents and purposes the game that would have been released. And it is pretty damn good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:52:53 2013 No.428384 >>428379 Oh. Donovan couldn't use that in the game? I never played Darkstalkers but I watched the anime. He did that move there. Huh.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:55:24 2013 No.428395

>>428384
He could use it in the finished game, but it behaved completely differently. Instead of causing his sword to fall down from the top of the screen covered in ice like in the location test the finished game has him shoot out a snowflake that travels forward in a shallow arc. Apparently the location test version was way too powerful/abusable.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:56:24 2013 No.428397
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>>428379
I'm curious about more Darkstalkers/Vampire Savior location test stuff. What else was different?

>>428362
They do. Apparently Nintendo archives all their different development versions of games. A few months ago, the guy who created the Wonder Boy/Monster Land series re-discovered the code to an arcade game that never made it past location tests and now wants to get it officially released by Sega.

For more beta info, I love Unseen64.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:57:53 2013 No.428401 File: 117 KB, 500x900, super_mario_world_bros_4_japanese_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>428349 Yes, that was on the Japanese box art.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:58:53 2013 No.428406 >>428397 Huitzil had about 15 extra moves...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 06:00:54 2013 No.428408 >>428401 I know for all practical purposes SMW was SMB4, but I still wish it was officially called that, at least here in the states, so it felt like there was continuity in the series, you know? Kinda like how Super Metroid was Metroid 3.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 06:07:53 2013 No.428431
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>>428397
>'m curious about more Darkstalkers/Vampire Savior location test stuff. What else was different?
Here's what I can remember offhand:
-The Blizzard Sword thing I already mentioned (graphics for it still exist unused in the final game, pic related)
-When Donovan sent his sword flying it would spin end over end instead of horizontally, so it covered a much wider area (again, animation and hitboxes still exist unused in the data). I've also heard that instead of always flying in the direction Donovan was facing, you could force it to fly left, right, or upwards depending on what button you pressed.
-Doonovan's Change Immortal super did a huge amount of chip damage when blocked. I've also heard that you could freely control his flight, as opposed to the limited vertical control you have in the finished version.
-Huitzil's Final Guardian super involved him summoning another robot, which would turn into a cannon that he would stand behind and fire. The other robot would then fly off. This made the startup and recovery times really long, so they changed it to just make Huitzil himself turn into the cannon. You can see the summon version in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjTZ_IcQ4Lg There's also an unused animation that exists in the data where he combines with the support robot and gains a some shoulder cannons which then fire. Don't know if that was ever used in a build anyone outside of Capcom played, though.
-When Victor's powerup super was active, his medium and hard punches would shoot out lightning bolts that traveled across the screen. You can also see this in the aforementioned video.
-Rikuo's bubble move was originally a shield instead of an attack. The bubble would surround him and protect him from projectiles and throws.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 06:12:23 2013 No.428441
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Rareware's beta stuff is nerd-boner material.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR5Jcf6oIoA Perfect Dark 1999 beta footage, showing different voice acting, different weapon sounds, distinct voices for masked characters, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOVBRJToVDY - DINOSAUR PLANET 1 HOUR BETA.

That game is the holy grail of betas. The man or woman who leaks it will have eternal nerd cred.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 06:16:53 2013 No.428447 >>428441 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6ceNFV2yz4

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 06:19:23 2013 No.428453

Shit, I must've spent like 20 minutes going through the Archives level in Goldeneye trying to find that gun that was pictured on the back of the box. Turns out, that was just the klobb beta design.

Did the same thing with Xenia on the Frigate. Apparently she was planned to be on there and it even says as much in the mission briefing but she wasn't there.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 06:21:53 2013 No.428458
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>>428334

>Graphics that depict an unknown cat character (O-Chan?) and early Bop-Louie being...hanged? It's worth noting that the hanged cat graphics are in the same CHR bank as (and line up perfectly with) the large bird that carries you across gaps midway through the game, so the two were likely connected at some point. The hanged Bop-Louie is also stored in a nearby bank, and may be part of the same scenario.

Jesus fucking christ

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 06:23:54 2013 No.428462 >>428447 >12 tales On that note, check out this recently released footage of a scene altered in Bad Fur Day to be a tad less disturbing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BOCRiFZcnA

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 06:23:54 2013 No.428463 >>428447 wow, there is almost no lag

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 06:24:23 2013 No.428465 I find it fascinating that Salamander/Life Force had close to 20 pieces of unused music. The best ones ended up getting used in later versions and ports.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 06:40:23 2013 No.428510 File: 938 KB, 469x317, 1353247141403.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>428441 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOVBRJToVDY This is freaking awesome!!

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 08:51:53 2013 No.428898

OoT has a veritable fucking treasure trove of beta stuff. Off the top of my head, there were Ice and Wind Temples instead of Water and Forest, the Medallions were going to be used as spells like Din's Fire (hence the Fire Medallion symbol on that pedestal you use Din's Fire on to enter the Shadow Temple), I think Hyrule Castle and its sewers were accessible at an early point (being the basis of the Forest Temple and the Well)...

I'm led to believe it started off as either a prequel (explaining the Imprisoning War) or a remake of ALttP.

Most of OoT's unused and planned features were implemented in MM and TWW, like the indepth character interaction, the Wind Temple, the plotline about Sages restoring the Master Sword's power, and so on.

TWW has some interesting beta stuff as well, but it's not exactly /vr/ so I won't dwell on that.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 08:57:54 2013 No.428923

>>428898
Also, Castle Town was going to be a fully 3D explorable town rather than the prerendered circle it ended up being, and there was a sword beam at some point.
http://www.odysseyofhyrule.com/zelda.htm and http://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time cover most of it.

There's also a project by some guys who are making a ROM hack of OoT, sort of taking all the beta elements and using them to make an entirely new plotline and stuff. But there's been a trailer promised for like a year, and it's been delayed about 5 times (once because the main guy working on it's entire family died or something), so I don't know how legit it is, but they do have some videos and concept art done. http://uraproject.the-gcn.com/

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 09:08:53 2013 No.428985

Did you guys try out the Resident Evil 1.5 beta?
There's not much going on but at least you can see completely unused stuff, it's kind of sad.
For people who don't know what it is, it's Resident Evil 2 before the project was completely erased and redone in the actual game supposedly because the story was going to end there and Capcom didn't want that.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 12:35:53 2013 No.429970
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This one wasn't even finished, but it would have been great if they did.
Jungle Taitei (aka Kimba The White Lion) based on the manga by Osamu Tezuka. The game was being developed for N64 by Miyamoto's team, but was later scrapped due to problems with Tezuka's son not being able to work with them in the game or something.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 13:03:23 2013 No.430085

>>428898
>>428923
Ugh, I almost hate reading about all the things that were once in the game, because I know I'll never get to experience them. OoT is one of my all-time favorite games, and when I was a kid I used to dream about finding stuff in the game that was featured in magazines and old-ass previews, like the unicorn fountain or the goddamn Triforce.

What I wouldn't give to play a leak of the alpha or pre-alpha versions...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 13:25:23 2013 No.430209 >>428362 The things I would give for an in-depth making of documentation of the development process of OoT, with videos, design sketches and accompanying source code. (or Super Mario 64) Something like w

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 13:29:24 2013 No.430235 >>430209 Like what they did for Skyward Sword in the Hyrule Historia? I'd like that. Maybe on OoT's 20th anniversary (5 years to go) or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 13:31:24 2013 No.430253 That Goomba in OP looks terrifyingly creepy.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 13:39:23 2013 No.430290

Do these kind of things kill the magic of games for anyone else? I loved Ocarina of time and would research about the game in the past extensively, looking at betas and cut content and glitches... now its just a bunch of code. There's no wonder.

As a kid I would imagine what was behind those rock walls that border hyrule field... we all did.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 13:46:23 2013 No.430339

>>430290
All the time.

It still happens for me -- since the revelation that as the Master Sword never moves, Twilight Princess takes place north of OoT's Castle Town, I just get this feeling of wonder when I'm in the southern Ordon and Faron parts of TP Hyrule, because I could be walking in OoT Hyrule and not even know it.

The Fishing Hole in OoT was also a big one. All the trees lining it, and that little creek coming out from the wall... I was convinced there was more of the overworld past it, and I just needed to find some kind of bomb to open it up. ;~;

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 14:41:23 2013 No.430665 >>430339 For me, there's a gap in the wall in Zora's Fountain that is filled with trees, and I always wondered if there was something there. It's unreachable, though, and I'm sure now there's nothing there but a texture for trees.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 14:48:54 2013 No.430695 >>428315 I never do. But it's most likely because there hasn't been any beta leaks of anything that I truly love. I sure would play some pre-release, broken, borderline-unplayable, insane Makaimura or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 14:51:23 2013 No.430710 >>430339 When I seen old Hyrule in Wind Waker, I really wanted to explore it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 14:58:23 2013 No.430737 >>430695 Well, there was a prototype of the arcade Ghost n' Goblins dumped recently. http://tcrf.net/Proto:Ghosts%27n_Goblins_%28Arcade%29

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:02:23 2013 No.430764 >>430737 Wow, that's freaking cool. Fine, I'm in OP's camp now. Is that ok?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:03:23 2013 No.430769 >>430764 I'm the OP, so yeah, get in the fucking tent 'cause the mosquitoes are getting in.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:05:23 2013 No.430776 File: 329 KB, 1621x1000, mother3-n64-34-06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Earthbound 64

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:06:53 2013 No.430783 >>430776 Yeah, that. Fuck me, but I like the old prototypes better than what we ended up with.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:08:53 2013 No.430803 File: 55 KB, 303x218, MMXmys-scrn2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'd love to get my hands on this someday. Mega Man X beta, different intro stage. More here: http://themechanicalmaniacs.com/articles/mmxmysteries.php

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:09:23 2013 No.430813 http://www.unseen64.net/beta-and-cancelled-videogames/

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:12:23 2013 No.430834 File: 79 KB, 658x582, castlevania-dc-egm122.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't want to talk about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:13:53 2013 No.430841 >>430776 This could have been the greatest gen 5 game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:34:54 2013 No.431003 >>430776 >>430841 Surprisingly enough, they always called it Mother 3 and not Earthbound 2 or something, even in the West.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:37:23 2013 No.431015 >>430841 It could have been the second rpg on the n64

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:41:23 2013 No.431035 >>431015 I presume you're referring to Paper Mario. Did Quest 64 not count?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:44:23 2013 No.431058 >>431035 Apparently neither did Aydn Chronicles, or any of the Custom Robo games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:44:29 2013 No.431051 >>431035 Paper Mario didn't come out until way later.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:44:53 2013 No.431057 >>431035 It was a joke. But the fact that you took it seriously just to say there was one other RPG is hilarious. Also, can we just forget Quest 64 every existed already.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:45:54 2013 No.431070 >>431015 ogre battle 64 best tactical eva

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:46:54 2013 No.431074 >>431057 Eh, I got the joke. I guess I'm just tired from lack of sleep so it came out as serious.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:53:53 2013 No.431110 Not exactly retro, but I remember the early tech demos of gamecube zelda and how fucking awesome it looked. And then we got windwaker's art style instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:55:23 2013 No.431120 >>431110 windwaker is original, tech demo was too ocarina of time stylized

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:57:23 2013 No.431130 >>431120 are you implying oot style was a bad thing? that's exactly what i was looking forward to. i was super disappointed by WW art style. of course the gameplay was fine.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:59:53 2013 No.431152

>>431130
When I was a kid, I was also really disappointed and pissed off that we weren't getting a realistic Zelda in favor of a bug-eyed cel-shaded cartoon.

Later on, TWW's style really came to grow on me, and now I look at that tech demo and find it looks pretty bad in comparison. TP satiated by childhood desire in any case, although I still find it a case of massively wasted potential.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:02:53 2013 No.431181

>>428334

It's always cool to see my site get linked around here.

For old-school unused content, there's a ton of shit in SMB3. Check the TCRF article or the in-depth disassembly here: http://sonicepoch.com/sm3mix/disassembly.html

If you're into technical bullshit, that last link is incredible.

>>	tim the tool man taylor Fri Apr 12 16:04:23 2013 No.431195 Stop n Swop and mysterious stuff like that is hella cool Goldeneye has a lot of cool stuff too

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:05:23 2013 No.431207 >>431181 I read all of the Mario articles. I would give my left nut for a chance to play an early SMB3 prototype with the missing minigames, enemies, etc. Same with Super Mario World.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:05:54 2013 No.431209 >>431130 >are you implying oot style was a bad thing? I don't like WW all that much, but we got a very OoT Zelda on GameCube, too, don't we? Both suck. Nothing cna compare to Ocarina and Link's Awakening.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:06:54 2013 No.431213 >>431207 It's hard to decide out of the three games I want a prototype of most (Link's Awakening, SMB3, Super Mario World) which one I'd give which nut for. Maybe I'd have to throw in a kidney or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:08:53 2013 No.431226 >>430776 is there a rom for that beta ?

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:08:53 2013 No.431227
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>>431195

Stop n Swop finally got its use. Something to do with Nuts n Bolts but I haven't played the game aside from the demo. I did collect all the eggs in kazooie/tooie on the XBLA, however. And the ice key was used in Tooie to obtain the mega glowbo which unlocks kazooie's dragon form.

The whole thing's pretty awesome, though. Seeing the flooded cave in treasure trove cove, only to see it submerged in a painting in Tooie.. only to go back and see it submerged for real in your kazooie save file. Was pretty awesome the first time

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:08:53 2013 No.431228 >>431209 best 2d zelda was from capcom

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:10:53 2013 No.431242 >>431227 sadly the stop 'n swap was not used for it true purpose and was instead used to unlock a few extra accessory parts for nuts and bolts. such a let down.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:11:23 2013 No.431249 >>431228 Best Zelda ever was from Nintendo - the Link's Awakening. The two Capcom Zelda's were amazing, though. I say, Link's Awakening >>>>>>> OoT = ALttP > Oracles > everything else > Majorashit+ incl. cellshaded toon Link games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:12:23 2013 No.431263 >>431242 Yeah, I figured it was something minor and boring like that. it is a shame.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:12:23 2013 No.431265 >>431242 And it connected to Banjo Tooie to do what it was originally intended. DK64 functionality is lost forever though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:14:23 2013 No.431274 >>431209 yeah but the point of the thread is beta stuff, and when WW came out there was no knowledge of TP. And it's true, TP couldn't stand up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:14:23 2013 No.431279 File: 39 KB, 200x203, Devil_Bottles.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>431265 >And it connected to Banjo Tooie to do what it was originally intended. lol no

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:15:23 2013 No.431290 >>431279 That was entirely unrelated to Stop-N-Swop. It was a shitty idea anyway, why would you want someone to play as an enemy? >EVERYTHING CUT OUT OF TOOIE WAS BECAUSE OF STOP-N-SWOP

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:17:23 2013 No.431308 I'm trying to search for the early version of wind waker (y'know the one before we knew it was cel-shaded). Is there a good resource for it? I'm not sure what to search.

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>>431227

speaking of beta/unreleased stuff, someone mentioned how most of the Diddy kong racing characters were going to have a game of their own. Conker had twelve tales (which would then become BFD I guess), Banjo got Kazooie/tooie of course, Tiptup was going to have something.. only turned out to be used as a sort of cameo for the banjo games, however. Timber was supposedly getting a platform/adventure/collect-a-thon as well?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:19:54 2013 No.431321 >>428408 My friend used to call ALttP "Zelda 3"

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:21:23 2013 No.431331 >>431290 The point is that the stop n swop we got is not the intended use, and instead made up by 4j studios. Unless you actually think they wanted you to get a gamer-pic on n64 for a top secret egg.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:23:53 2013 No.431353 >>431321 It WAS gonna be called Zelda 3 at one point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 17:25:23 2013 No.431780 >>431130 Not the same bro, but I am going to go ahead and imply that myself. Get the fuck over OoT. I'm sorry, but the series has to move on, as it always has. Not every goddamn Zelda game is going to be OoT.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 17:40:53 2013 No.431886 File: 59 KB, 480x360, screenshot_790screen007[1].jpg_126842.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] As someone who loves adventures I suffered greatly from Blizzards decision.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 17:50:56 2013 No.431970
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>>430803
Shit I had my post prepared about this when I scrolled across your post, but with a different screenshot and link

http://kobun20.interordi.com/2010/06/22/retro-x/

Was also going to post some screenshots from X7, I didn't think the game was real...now I kind of wish it wasn't

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 17:57:23 2013 No.432025 >>431970 >that art of X with armor Holy shit, I had forgotten about that! I thought the armor looked wicked as a kid, and I was wondering why it didn't look like that in-game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:02:23 2013 No.432051 >>431886 That game looked really good, fuck Blizzard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:03:54 2013 No.432063 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDlB2P1leRM Why 3D Realms didn't keep developing this version of DNF instead of switching engines every 2 years.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:05:53 2013 No.432074

>>431120

I remember some really fancy looking short Zelda video where Link fights Gohma..I don't remember if it was even made by Nintendo or what it was intended to be if anything other than a cool short clip, but I can't find the video anymore. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:11:53 2013 No.432108 >>430776 From what I see it's the same characters, just in 3D...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:13:23 2013 No.432127 >>432074 And of course I just found it, I did not think it was this recent, but what I was thinking of was a tech demo for the Wii U apparently

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:17:24 2013 No.432158 >>430776 >super mario adventure What the hell was that? A beta for Sunshine?

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:19:53 2013 No.432174

>>432108
The story is apparently completely unchanged.

Only difference would be that it would've been harder to fan translate due to N64 being fucking retarded compared to the relatively straightforward GBA.

And we still wouldn't be emulating it properly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:21:23 2013 No.432187 >>430776 >First sentence: >It's hard to believe just how long Mother 3 has been in development. Oh the irony.

Princess Bubblegum !AnVbXjgZco Fri Apr 12 18:23:23 2013 No.432203

Quake has a few enemy concepts that were cut from the final release.

Vomitus: A big blob that spits out smaller blobs.

Dragon: A dragon that flies around in the sky and shoots at you.

Serpent: A lizard-like creature that crawls on the ground.

The vomitus sounds like it would have made an awesome boss. You know, bosses, those things Quake needed a lot more of?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:25:23 2013 No.432226 File: 13 KB, 253x222, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >dat Final Fantasy N64 demo

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:25:23 2013 No.432228 >>432158 super mario rpg usa first name

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:27:23 2013 No.432242 >>432228 Delete your post like the idiot you are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:27:53 2013 No.432245 >>432158 paper mario usa first name (fixed)

>>	Princess Bubblegum !AnVbXjgZco Fri Apr 12 18:28:53 2013 No.432259 >>432203 Oh also: There's evidence in the game's source code that Shub-Niggurath was going to be a lot more dynamic, and have actual attacks and stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 18:47:37 2013 No.432381 File: 279 KB, 658x520, FFVII.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] FINAL FANTASY VII early prototype/concept

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 19:12:52 2013 No.432479 >>432381 ...seriously? whoa

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 19:27:22 2013 No.432572 >>432381 >what could have been

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 19:59:23 2013 No.432813
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The final version of Soul Reaver was only half of the originally intended game. Entire areas, powers, enemys etc were removed. For example, the human citadel would've had some point to it and had a huge underground area, the elemental reavers you can only get through cheat codes would have actually been used and had their own puzzles, you would have been able to possess enemies, the list goes on.

Heres a link:

http://www.thelostworlds.net/SR1/

Also I remember those early OoT screens that looked more like Mario 64, with the red Octoroks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 20:00:53 2013 No.432826 >>432572 there's just not enough medieval fantasy RPG's

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 20:05:52 2013 No.432859 >>430834 What the fuck is Sailor Moon doing in there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 20:12:52 2013 No.432895 File: 235 KB, 1024x768, gs01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Age of Empires II

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:00:55 2013 No.436475

>tfw we'll never see what those knights were in the OP pic

Such an ominous shot, that one. Those enemies are nowhere in the final game data, and AFAIK they have never been acknowledged.

Oh god, I really, really want to see a super early prototype of Mario RPG get leaked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:06:24 2013 No.436516 File: 206 B, 23x24, Linkphoto2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>431209 >>431249 I've... never met anyone else that thought Link's Awakening was the best. Apparently I've been hanging out in the wrong places.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:20:24 2013 No.436613 >>436475 Those are just wolves from earlier in the game(Chasing the crocodile with Mallow), the only unknown enemy in that shot is a flying dry bones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 06:48:24 2013 No.437602 >>432127 Yeah, the "Zelda HD experience". It's essentially a shot of TP Link fighting TP Armogohma, with fancy Wii U graphics.

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:14:24 2013 No.438439

>>430710
I know, man. I know. What really gets me is that the boat tells you that the temples you need to go to are in Hyrule... but because of Ganon's bullshit barrier, you have to enter them through the mountains.
Sometimes I just stand in the temples, thinking that I'm a few metres away from Hyrule Field or Kakariko Village or wherever. It's a weird feeling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 13:32:41 2013 No.439619 File: 26 KB, 548x640, koopa_paratroopa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>436613 That's not a flying Drybones, it's a red koopa paratroopa.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 13:40:24 2013 No.439684 >>431970 >>432025 I really, really wish this gets leaked someday. Even a single different stage will be great. (I'd kill for any unplayed 16-bits MMX material, and the few good fangames are taking forever to get completed)

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 13:43:24 2013 No.439716 >>439619 it has a skull for a face tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 13:45:25 2013 No.439736 >>432381 that would have been badass. looks like a 2D/3D version of Nehbihem Town.

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 13:55:54 2013 No.439814
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>>436613
Ah, I was tired as fuck when I wrote that. I was looking at other magazine scans of SMRPG, and I saw this shot. It's what I was referring to, and for some reason I got that shot and OP's mixed up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 13:58:54 2013 No.439842 >>439814 What's going on in this picture?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:00:24 2013 No.439856 >>439842 We will never know. It does appear like the map this scene takes place on is still in the game, although only the collision data remains without the texture mapping.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:00:25 2013 No.439850 >>430776 I heard this game was supposed to have 12 chapters, it was gonna feature Ness somehow and it was supposed to have a way darker ending (something like Lucas destroying the world because of the death of Claus).

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:00:25 2013 No.439852 >>430710 I think early in ww's development you were able to explore more of old hyrule

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:04:24 2013 No.439903 >>439842 looks like peach in a prison

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:05:54 2013 No.439913
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>>431318
This is true. Timber was intended for Twelve Tales, and he was gonna be a quadraped. This was probably before Diddy Kong Racing though. Tiptup was featured in Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie and that was it. The only other character I can see getting something is Bumper. Him, Timber, Diddy, Banjo and Conker look like potental protags. The rest were supporting characters at best.

Sonic games have a lot of beta stuff. Pic related. I wanted Madonna so badly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:24:54 2013 No.440092 >>432226 it's a tech demo made by a company that has nothing to do with square for internal testing purposes

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:25:24 2013 No.440098 >>432381 I want this to leak so bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:32:24 2013 No.440169 >>430783 Eh, I love Mother 3 but it's a shame Gamecube never got a Mother game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:33:54 2013 No.440186 >>431152 I agree with everything you said. The tech demo is just ugly while WW is still one of the prettiest games ever made to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:42:54 2013 No.440271 >>439913 Sanic X-treme turn me on!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:44:25 2013 No.440287 File: 113 KB, 681x469, DNForiginal.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Man fuck you 3drealms and gearbox. The first Duke Nukem Forever (Quake2 engine) version was almost finish and devs still refuse to released it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:52:25 2013 No.440364 File: 6 KB, 302x167, n64.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>432381 Let's not forget that prototype for nintendo 64.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:53:54 2013 No.440375 File: 8 KB, 304x166, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>440364 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYGiLY_VHpA

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:53:54 2013 No.440378 >>440364 some one mentioned that already, and see >>440092

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:56:54 2013 No.440398 >>440287 maybe it looked nice but didn't play well

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 15:00:54 2013 No.440442 >>440287 The Quake 2 engine was used very early on in the development, the version of the game made with it was no where near finished, it's the Unreal engine version that was almost finished

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 15:08:55 2013 No.440504 >>440442 Thanks for clarification!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 15:50:54 2013 No.440834 >>439716 No it doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 15:56:54 2013 No.440865 Back when I was 11 or 12 I used to love GTA (still do, but I have more vidya to play).I was fascinated by the beta stuff, as always. I found out about shit like Darken, the hobo in GTA III

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 17:20:24 2013 No.441671

>>440364
>>440375
Yet another thing I saw in magazines back in the day wishing I could play it. FFVI was my favorite game at the time. I had dreams about this shit. Then FFVII went to the PS1 and I completely missed out on it because I was a Nintendo fanboy. I even remember sending a letter to Nintendo asking them if there would ever be another FF game on a Nintendo console.

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