/CRT/ Thread : Mushy Edition

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/CRT/ Thread : Mushy Edition Anonymous Sun Sep 10 21:56:16 2017 No.4251351 [Reply] [Original]

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This thread is for the spirited discussion of CRT displays - Televisions, monitors and projectors used for the playing of retro games!

>Try to keep it penis-related: Nothing past 5th gen(+ Dreamcast). Slight OT might be okay if related to CRTs (E.G. 16:9 compatible models, flatscreens, etc.) Systems with backwards compatibility are also pretty safe territory, assuming you're focusing on the older games. PC CRTs are also a-ok.
>Produce OC! Get out your real cameras and take beautiful pictures of your CRTs displaying recognizable characters with the kind of beautiful accuracy that brings tears to the eyes of young and old alike! If you take 100 photos, at least one of them will turn out alright! (maybe)
>Try to be as detailed as possible when asking info on a specific model. As always, google is your friend, and we are your friends with benefits. Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either.
>Share appreciation for others choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. As always show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Discussion of video processing and scaling devices is okay, but try to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories

CRT Pastebin (WIP) : http://pastebin.com/1Ri5TS3x
Guide to CRT Hunting : http://pastebin.com/H9H9L2LQ
Guide to Video Monitors : http://pastebin.com/pQX4N6gZ
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JVC RGB card cloning guide : https://pastebin.com/EXqMBfcY

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 01:00:07 2017 No.4251634 File: 47 KB, 640x426, CC55C651-B52B-42F5-BDC3-C1C1C6EA32E3-1311-0000013ACA62E9AB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Too late. Someone already made a (shittier) CRT general.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 03:24:50 2017 No.4251787 >>4251634 That one is an impostor, though. An impostor, I say!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 06:11:46 2017 No.4251971 File: 2.22 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_0927.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yeah, fuck that other general thpugh

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 06:28:54 2017 No.4251982 Reminder that SCART is best and only butthurt americant's will go to lengths saying how bad it is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 06:41:45 2017 No.4251993 >>4251982 It's a cable. I try not to get emotional about it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 06:44:29 2017 No.4251996
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>>4251993
Not hot-pluggable
Not durable
Never properly shielded
Power, video and audio on same cable - for real fans of crosstalk
Never came with consoles
Period accurate 1st party cables are impossible or expensive to get
Premium prices for non-shit switches
Not available in country that matters

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 07:03:43 2017 No.4252014 >>4251996 Shit pasta

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 10:45:44 2017 No.4252306 Did any game consoles use analog NTSC MTS (multichannel television sound) features like Stereo and SAP (secondary audio program) for their RF output?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 11:31:01 2017 No.4252370 >>4251996 >not hot-pluggable >never came with consoles >power video and audio on same cable >not shielded 3 and 4 are only true if you are a moron and buy badly wired chink shit and im pretty sure you are the same faggot posting this every time

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 12:04:04 2017 No.4252415 >>4251996 >Never came with consoles typical clueless HERE BE DRAGONS peasant belief

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 12:16:48 2017 No.4252430 >>4251996 >country that matters you mean the country that is too assblasted to cough royalties and would rather screw it's users. the country that can't even apply it's own justice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 16:30:50 2017 No.4252791 >>4251634 >>4251787 >>4251971 At least the other thread had some quality discussion; this one didn't even make it four posts before going to shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 17:15:14 2017 No.4252859 >>4252791 I found the imposter OP who made the other shitty thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 17:17:32 2017 No.4252862 >>4252859 Not him, but fuck off. This thread is shit. Get over it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 17:18:36 2017 No.4252867 File: 2.09 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_0171.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nothing tops a VGA CRT

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 17:22:48 2017 No.4252873 >>4252867 a CGA monitor would top it immensely

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 17:27:08 2017 No.4252881 >>4251351 vidya naem

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 17:28:39 2017 No.4252883 >>4251351 What game is that in the OP?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 18:50:37 2017 No.4253027 Just got a trinitron

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 18:55:56 2017 No.4253040 File: 2.17 MB, 1080x1920, IMG_20170912_004143.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4253027 Sorry forgot picture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 19:16:36 2017 No.4253074 >>4252862 Haha, buttblasted much?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 19:17:45 2017 No.4253076 >>4252873 How so?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 20:01:41 2017 No.4253147 >>4251351 which game is that OP?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 20:24:27 2017 No.4253182 >>4252873 Retro consoles output a 15khz signal, same as CGA. VGA is 31khz, so you either need to double the vertical refresh rate (not possible on original hardware) or use a line doubler, which can introduce lag and visual artifacts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 20:25:33 2017 No.4253183 >>4253182 Sorry, meant for>>4253076

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 20:28:59 2017 No.4253192 >>4253183 Gotcha, I completely forgot for a moment that retro consoles only do 15khz. I use my Wii for all of my retro gaming now and it works on my vga and my Amiga 1080. Damn it's comfy

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 23:10:33 2017 No.4253447 >>4252873 But CGA doesn't have analog colour. >>4253182 How many KHz are EGA monitors?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 23:14:11 2017 No.4253451 Did analog TV broadcasts of the 60s and 70s have more clear picture than 90s and 2000s broadcasts because of the fewer channels (less clogged airwaves)?

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 23:19:08 2017 No.4253458
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How do you guys do super-wide resolutions in 240p? (3820x240, etc) Is it with CRTemudriver / Soft15khz? I've tried to do it with Retroarch configs but just end up with a stretched image.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 00:16:24 2017 No.4253532 File: 3.99 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_20170911_231154.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4253458

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 00:54:43 2017 No.4253558 >>4253447 About 22khz, which is fairly similar to medium resolution arcade monitors.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 00:58:58 2017 No.4253563

>>4253451
The standards for channel subdivision never changed, so things weren't "crowded" enough in the 90s to be detrimental. Plus given that you didn't have the consistency of modern solid state electronics, picture quality in the 60s and 70s was likely a lot worse. There's a reason NTSC is called Never Twice the Same Color.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 01:26:15 2017 No.4253586

>>4252014
Shit pasta for shit connection.
>>4252370
>3 and 4 are only true if you are a moron and buy badly wired chink shit
As opposed to buying premium artisan cables from ebay seller who has "her" store closed half of the time and messes up constantly.
>>4252415
Which retro consoles came bundled with JP-21 or RGB SCART cables?
>>4252430
Still the best.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 05:43:56 2017 No.4253827 >>4253586 >Which retro consoles came bundled with JP-21 or RGB SCART cables? NES (fake rgb but still) SMS MD SNES Saturn DC

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 06:14:20 2017 No.4253843 >>4251351 Can PS2 480p through SCART?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 06:22:30 2017 No.4253846 >>4253843 TVs don't support 480p over SCART, but if you have, say, a scart breakout to a 480p capable monitor and you launch a 480p game (with either GSM or holding /\ + X) the PS2 will do RGsB (31khz RGB with sync on green).

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 08:15:58 2017 No.4253929 >>4251351 Name of the game?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 08:19:16 2017 No.4253931 >>4253827 Inb4 anon spergs out over "bundled". No consoles came bundled with s-video or component cables either but nobody questions the legitimacy of those connectors.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 08:28:21 2017 No.4253939
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>get gam3 gear svideo they said.
>its fine they said.
>no checker boarding they said

I wasnt expecting much for 7 bucks and was planning in soldering my own ground wires.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 08:42:57 2017 No.4253951 Can I hook my computer up to a PVM if I get a VGA to BNC adapter, or would that not work for any reason?

Kya !kDashing02 Tue Sep 12 09:00:12 2017 No.4253961
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>>4253929
>>4253147
>>4252883
>>4252881
M.U.S.H.A.

>>4253951
If you have a 14L5/20L5 or a MultiFormat BVM, you'd just need to go about combining sync and you'd be relatively set for 480p/720p.

Otherwise, for just about anything else you'd either need to do some modeline fuckery in linux or special drivers and certain AMD/ATI GPUs in order to sync low enough for SD monitors to work properly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 09:31:21 2017 No.4253995 >>4253929 musha

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 11:25:03 2017 No.4254104 File: 102 KB, 634x470, KADE_RETRO_VGA_21-e1381007986548.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is using a VGA scanline generator on a VGA monitor cool?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 13:38:05 2017 No.4254287 File: 793 KB, 2048x1520, IMAG0449.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4254104 Emphatically not. Much better to use a superwide (31khz) resolution with vertical matching the system/game you're emulating.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 14:40:55 2017 No.4254405 >>4254287 >>4253458 Any ideas?

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 15:28:59 2017 No.4254491
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>>4253586
>premium scart cables

Stop lying.
Scart was a connection designed to get a good quality to the plebs. No premium snake oil cable was designed for them because enthusiasts flocked around component. the only "premium cables" are gold plated ones and they're 10 $ instead of 5.

People like you disgust me. Why the fuck do you have to lie just to protect your cable-fu ? truely pathetic.

please stop posting on any board

https://www.amazon.co.uk/3m-Scart-Cable-Quality-Shielded/dp/B0039OGUVM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505244269&sr=8-1&keywords=scart+high+quality+cable

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 15:30:01 2017 No.4254493 >>4254405 I (>>4254287) have an nvidia quadro card in my thinkpad which makes setting up custom modelines a breeze. Works great.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 17:00:48 2017 No.4254669 File: 14 KB, 85x98, absoloot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ctrl+f "penis" >1 result

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 19:57:22 2017 No.4254957 >>4254491 >the only "premium cables" are gold plated ones Does it do anything?

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 20:12:19 2017 No.4254981
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>>4254491
>the only "premium cables" are gold plated ones
The whole 3rd world post is amusing but that line in particular stands out.
>>4253827
>>4253931
Only the Saturn came with an actual SCART cable that carried RGB.
>>4251996
This anon is right. Glad to see other anons are figuring out what I've been posting in the 3rd world SCART circlejerks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 20:18:50 2017 No.4254992 >>4254981 The Saturn isn't alone. Snes and Dreamcast in europe are sold with Scart/RGB. And Genesis, PS1/PS2, Gamecube and Xbox have RGB cables sold separately.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 20:22:21 2017 No.4254995

>>4254992
>SNES
Negative
>Dreamcast
Negative

Maybe some rare variant that's specific to a country but most all PAL SNES came with RCA/RF.
>And Genesis, PS1/PS2,
Absolutely negative
Rest isn't retro and I don't care about. You'd be retarded to use RGB or component with XBox if it even outputs that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 20:22:22 2017 No.4254996 >>4254981 But what an asshole !! The Scart / RGB is much better than your RCA / Yellow and S-Video shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 20:23:13 2017 No.4255000 >>4252370 >and im pretty sure you are the same faggot posting this every time I'm sure he is the same too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 20:24:01 2017 No.4255003 >>4254995 Snes has Scart/RGB. The RF system is only for britain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 20:27:23 2017 No.4255012 >>4255003 As I said then.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 20:36:32 2017 No.4255018

>>4254995
All my Snes have Scart/RGB cable, all my Saturn have Scart RGB cable. All my Dreamcast have Scart/RGB cable.

PS1/2, and Gamecube need to buy separately the cable.

For the Xbox, in europe the PAL bios don't allow to use the YUV. So only RGB for CRT.
And if the console is modded, then we put a NTSC bios and we plug in YUV, what else if not?

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 20:41:34 2017 No.4255023

>>4255018
>All my Snes have Scart/RGB cable, all my Saturn have Scart RGB cable. All my Dreamcast have Scart/RGB cable.
Your point?
>PS1/2, and Gamecube need to buy separately the cable.
The first is extremely rare, second not retro, and 3rd not retro.

PALShit Xbox shit I do not care about.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 23:55:51 2017 No.4255350

Friendly reminder not to fall for the curved CRTV meme.

Flat CRTVs are superior because:
Less screen glare (light reflection)
Better stereo separation (speakers on the sides)
More inputs (3-4 instead of 1-2)
Component inputs (instead of just S-video)
Inputs on the front panel (and headphone jack too)
Easier to find (being 5+ years newer)
Greater selection (since there are more of them on Craigslist you can pick the best model instead of settling for the single curved available)
More options in the service menu (secret menu for advanced tweaking)
Smaller size models still have all features (sub-27" curveds are not stereo and do not have S-video)

The only advantages of curveds are:
Somewhat better linearity, focus, and convergence (but will still need calibration to be perfect)
Easier to lift (lighter and narrower to get your arms around)

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 00:07:15 2017 No.4255372

>>4255350
Honestly the flat trinitrons are all that's left. Sitting and waiting for a fish bowl sony is becoming less feasible. Curb alert flat crts on crabs list are pretty common and when you get it for free does it really mattet if it has fixable issues??

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 02:26:11 2017 No.4255592 >>4254957 no noticable difference. What really matters is the shielding

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 02:35:44 2017 No.4255602 >>4254981 fuck you pablo You are so insecure I can tell you are a fucking shitskin sneaking past the border doesnt make you american. and the SNES-fra does output true rgb through SCART and come with a cable. I actually own one and it looks fantastic

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 02:47:42 2017 No.4255608 >>4255592 It stops the contacts corroding in humid environments

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 03:32:45 2017 No.4255653 >>4255608 >living in the 21st century >not having AC kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 03:50:06 2017 No.4255662 File: 2.98 MB, 5752x1808, RGB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4254981 >Only the Saturn came with an actual SCART cable that carried RGB. SMS and MD came bundled with MK-3085 because they can't output anything but RGB

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 04:11:07 2017 No.4255684 >>4255653 >living in the 21st century >in the equatorial or tropical zones You have my pity, anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 05:02:08 2017 No.4255732 >>4255684 >yfw americant's have to go with switches or scart-BNC adapters, or mod the consoles for component to even get that RGB goodness.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 05:26:51 2017 No.4255757 >>4255608 its only plated meaning that after a few unplugs the gold will be scraped off and it'll corrode all the same. I just dont see how it coupd be usefull

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 05:37:55 2017 No.4255767 >try to keep it penis-related Uhmmmmm

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 06:03:19 2017 No.4255795 >>4255757 >a few I have SCARTs which have been unplugged hundreds of times and the plating is still intact. It serves a useful purpose and does so effectively. It's not simply "bling".

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 07:33:46 2017 No.4255853 >>4255795 dunno i had quite a few gold plated cables and the plating came off a lot of them. They were not SCART though and the scart connector doesnt really grip the plug so i guess it would stay intact

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 12:49:37 2017 No.4256253

>>4255602
I'm white and both sides of my family have been in America since before America. When did your get here? In the 1900s with a bunch of other degenerates? We probably owned a few of your kind to replace the house niggers.

>and the SNES-fra does output true rgb through SCART and come with a cable.
>I actually own one and it looks fantastic
Also get some reading comprehension kiddo. That common core shit ain't cutting it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 12:50:48 2017 No.4256259 >>4255662 And this came with the British release?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 12:58:58 2017 No.4256273 >>4256259 fr

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 12:59:34 2017 No.4256274 >>4256273 As I said then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 13:20:47 2017 No.4256314 >>4255684 Subtropical, actually. >>4256253 wew lad

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 13:22:11 2017 No.4256317 >>4256314 >wew lad Nice meme. Nice and fresh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 13:48:05 2017 No.4256360 What's the proper way to calibrate geometry / pincushion correction?

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 14:07:00 2017 No.4256405

>>4256360
Assuming you're using a Memetron:
-Display a grid pattern
-adjust PAMP until in inner part of the grid is square
-adjust CPIN until the outer part of the grid is square
-repeat until entire grid is reasonably square

You may also need to adjust the trapezoid, vertical bow, and angle controls. HSIZ and VSIZ adjustments will also affect things. Linearity adjustments should be made with a circles pattern

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:07:54 2017 No.4256516 [DELETED]

>>4256253
>Im the whitest of whites and the most american of all America !

You sure are insecure pablo.
You are not white.
You wouldnt feel the need to justify yourself if you were.

If by chance you are white then your ancestors should be ashamed of being related to such a colossal faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:09:40 2017 No.4256527 >>4256516 Do you need a 23andme or something? Sorry your ancestors came on a boat in the 1900s from some brown town.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:28:53 2017 No.4256580 >>4256527 I am not a burger stop projecting

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:30:48 2017 No.4256583

What's /vr/ thoughts on dithering? I tried emulating on retroarch, but for some reason it just keeps fucking up all dithering shaders, and my autism is triggered because my beloved Genesis games like Road Rush end up pixelated. I feel desperate enough to buy a Wii and connect to to my old CRT TV to finally experience good dithering, but it will only accept a PAL composite.

I can't fucking decide whether dithering is worth crappy composite colors.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:32:54 2017 No.4256590 File: 55 KB, 479x361, (You).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4256580 >not American >feeling superior to anyone

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:38:21 2017 No.4256609 >>4256580 Called it 3rd world scum.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:13:17 2017 No.4256715 >>4256405 I don't have a memetron, using a consumer Panasonic set. My settings are PCC, TOPG, BTMG, PCCHG, PCCLG, PCCHS, PCCLS, TOPSL, and BTMSL. Any idea what order I should adjust these in?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:26:37 2017 No.4256764 >>4256609 >>4256590 >AHAHAHA LOOK AT THAT YOUROPOOR! I SURE AM GLAD TO BE AMERICAN! holy shit pablo you're fucking gold I hope your one and only quality carries you far in life pablo. I just hope you'll learn to be less of a faggot on the way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:41:54 2017 No.4256805 >>4256590 >slaves of the jews >superior to anyone мoй бoкaх

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:46:04 2017 No.4256812 >>4256805 But ever since WW2, the whole world has become slaves to the jews.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:47:58 2017 No.4256816 >>4256812 And yet Americans are the most indoctrinated. >50% circumcision rate

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 17:00:09 2017 No.4256841 >>4256715 Got a model number? Finding the service manual for your particular set would shed a lot of light on it. But as a general rule you want to work from the center of the display outward to the corners.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 17:06:14 2017 No.4256853 File: 422 KB, 1600x900, kimjongun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4256812 Forgetting someone, aren't you anon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 17:12:37 2017 No.4256861 >>4256764 I'm white but I think I'd take being a spic over a slav any day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 17:14:20 2017 No.4256864 File: 229 KB, 2768x1256, trump-vs-kim.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4256853 I fucking love North Korea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 17:15:49 2017 No.4256867 >>4256861 slavs are more white than americucks

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 17:17:51 2017 No.4256870 >>4256867 Slavs aren't white to begin with so that's a false statement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 18:54:54 2017 No.4257031 >>4256253 >>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 18:59:04 2017 No.4257046 >>4255372 I still see curved Trinitrons at least once a month or so. They get snapped up quick though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:28:29 2017 No.4257923 Can we have a quick mod cleanup int his thread please? Thank you for your cooperation.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:56:59 2017 No.4258002

Upgraded my boss from a 13" flat trinitron to a panasonic bt-h1350y. Just using snes on s video but he's never seen a crt look that good. I love the vertical stack form factor more than the column panels.

Anyone who says a good consumer set compares to even a low end pro monitor has no idea what they're talking about.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 07:46:50 2017 No.4258047
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How come more people who are CRT nuts just don't run an Arcade monitor? You can pick up a 25" or 27" Wells-Gardner or similar for not much more than a cheap new 32" flatscreen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 08:53:35 2017 No.4258115 File: 189 KB, 1440x1080, 20170914144234.mp4_snapshot_00.03_[2017.09.14_14.47.55].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Based Columbo using based PVM

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 08:54:39 2017 No.4258116 File: 205 KB, 1440x1080, 20170914144234.mp4_snapshot_00.58_[2017.09.14_14.48.46].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4258115

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 08:58:59 2017 No.4258121 >>4258116 Télé Monte Carlo

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 09:37:18 2017 No.4258152 >>4252867 A Trinitron (or related) workstation CRT with BNC inputs plus VGA does.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 09:45:36 2017 No.4258164 File: 577 KB, 1440x1080, 20170914153831.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4258116 also uses a big ass mitsu

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 14:35:51 2017 No.4258710 >>4258047 Aren't they bare naked with no shell? You could get electrocuted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 15:57:17 2017 No.4258871 >>4258710 >You could get electrocuted. Only if you are an idiot. Personally I would be more concerned with burn in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:09:35 2017 No.4258895 >>4258871 Ya taking precaution to hide live mains wire is dumb too, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:35:08 2017 No.4258991 Got myself a KV-27FS100 cheap on Craigslist, hooked up my Gamecube GBA player with S-Video and GBI-LL. Using a Raphnet SNES to Gamecube adaptor for controls. This is the happiest I've been in a long time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:41:31 2017 No.4259005 File: 207 KB, 1440x1080, Hori-Gamecube-Gameboy-Player-Controller-Pad-Black-Japan-RARE-Snes-Style-Smb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4258991 I'm using the adapter because this fucking thing is too expensive

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:39:55 2017 No.4259118 >>4259005 Nice, that was my plan as well. Gonna order in a couple of days. Is there any perceptible lag?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:44:53 2017 No.4259131 >>4259118 None that I can tell. I haven't measured with video or anything. But if there was I would probably be able to feel it considering I'm also using the 8BitDo wireless receiver

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:49:45 2017 No.4259143

>>4258710
So build a shell. A couple of pieces of plywood and you're in business.

>You could get electrocuted.

If you're a fucking moron. Besides, even if you do manage to somehow stick your finger up under the cover to touch the anode, it won't electrocute you, but it will shock the ever-motherfucking-living shit out of you. Most of the damage will come from when you break your wrist recoiling from the shock and hit it against the frame of the monitor.

How to keep that from happening? Keep your fucking fingers out from under the anode cap. It's there for a reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:53:46 2017 No.4259148 >>4259143 deflection coils can shock you good. some sets have bare soldering on these

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:57:27 2017 No.4259154

>>4259148
Meh. Sometimes you actually have to replace the yoke. It's not a big deal either.

I think most people are afraid of CRT's because of old wives' tales about them. "My buddy said his cousin's girlfriend's uncle was changing a fuse in his TV and he touched the wrong part and died!"

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:49:51 2017 No.4259259 >>4252859 >I found the imposter OP who made the other shitty thread This is some Redditor tier shit LMAO

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 20:33:46 2017 No.4259407
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Just got a nearly brand new NES as a gift. What's a good TV for it? Right now I'm stuck with an SV2000. Generic and a bit young but I could be worse off.

Playing Milton's Secret Castle blind and I'm finally having a fucking blast now that I know you can push some blocks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 20:36:00 2017 No.4259409 >>4259407 >Milton's Thanks phone. Milon's

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 20:39:55 2017 No.4259416 >>4253040 On da GWEEN!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:19:55 2017 No.4259494 File: 31 KB, 270x480, IMG_1072.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Someone in my area is selling pic related for 10 bucks. What do you think lads?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:20:24 2017 No.4259496 >>4259494 More like 10 cents.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:39:47 2017 No.4259637 >>4258115 Pretty much every movie and tv show from the 90's will always have pvms whenever showing a security room, studio, or high official office

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:45:23 2017 No.4259645 >>4259494 Funny tv to own. Pick it up if you're a lighthearted jokester who likes to have people stare at you and ask why only to have you smile back and say why not?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:51:59 2017 No.4259656

>>4259494
Generally combo TVs that have a built in DVD or VHS player suck because usually the CRT and the VCR will be low quality in order to fit both in one machine and still have a competitive price.

It will also be difficult to service the DVD player if it stops working.

However if you are in need of a small CRT and your VCR just broke then for $10 this is suitable.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:23:35 2017 No.4259702

Found the 1966 TV buyers guide:
http://www.bretl.com/tvarticles/documents/TVGuide1966BuyersGuide.pdf

What a fun read.
At the end it advertises the first TV to have coaxial RF jacks instead of the older twin lead style.
Notice how every single TV pictured is either shown with an attractive woman in her youthful prime either beside the TV or on the screen.
I think many diehards stayed with black and white TVs for years because they have sharper image (no shadow mask and the luma part of analog video not overlaid with the chroma part which is lower resolution).
TV manufacturers actually offered sets in different choices of wood.

Does anyone have TV buyers guides from the 90s and early 2000s? Those are the ones you can actually find and find in working condition.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:12:57 2017 No.4259795 >>4259656 My VCR + TV set has a 6 head VCR player and has looked better than any VCR I owned, and the CRT even has component inputs.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 03:16:42 2017 No.4260158
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Stupid question but how do you guys figure out the front porch pixels & sync width etc. especially for weird resolutions like 608x448, is there a website that helps you in that regard?

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 03:23:28 2017 No.4260175
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Does anyone else swap the blue and red plugs of component cable to invert the colours in their games for a fresh new experience?

It is not true inversion like you get with MS paint.
The light and dark (luma) is kept the same.
Blues and reds, yellows and cyans are inverted.
Greens and magentas stay the same.
All other colours change based on how close they are to the above mentioned colours.

The vibe and atmosphere of the game is greatly changed when you do this.

Xbox, Gamecube, PS2, Wii, and PSP all can use component cables so with emulation almost all classic games can be played like this.

This unique feature is not possible with SCART.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 06:35:15 2017 No.4260414 >>4260158 GTF and some guesswork

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 08:54:50 2017 No.4260578 File: 573 KB, 1920x1088, 20170915142810.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4259637 a snazy looking mitsu

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 08:57:17 2017 No.4260582 File: 557 KB, 1920x1088, 20170915145242.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4260578 The lieutenant likes what he sees

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 09:31:44 2017 No.4260610

>>4251351
Alright guys, so I know I'm a totally uneducated faggot but I'm hoping you can enlighten me. I know there's probably a lot of minutae to this, but by the simplest definition, what exactly does the best CRT offer over your regular CRT? I have a decent sized bubble screen Insignia that I use, and I always hear people talking about "Trinitrons" and "HD CRTs" but I don't get it. What makes them superior? Do you get enhanced image quality, color, sharpness? What's the deal? And furthmore, what is the absolute best CRT you can find?

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 09:46:24 2017 No.4260629

>>4260610
The difference between a high end CRT and a run-of-the-mill CRT, put in simplest terms, is the difference between a Chevette and a Corvette. Both are Chevy 'Vette's, with 4 tires and a steering wheel that get you from Point A to Point B. Thing of it is, they do it in vastly different ways.

When you lay your eyes on a high end CRT monitor, you won't look at yours the same ever again.

Best monitor I ever had was a 21" Viewsonic that did 1600x1200 at 100Hz. Fucker cost me $500 back in the day, and it made me sick dropping that kind of dough on it, but Mother of God, the first time I turned it on and looked at the screen...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 10:35:41 2017 No.4260681 >>4260629 Even when it comes to 15khz sets, a professional quality SD display will absolutely destroy even high end consumer gear. A 1992 20" panasonic BT will murder a 2004 32" Sony Wega.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 10:52:25 2017 No.4260692 >>4256314 >>4257031 Wow, you guys sure showed him

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 10:56:29 2017 No.4260696 >>4260681 Yup. This is exactly true. My Viewsonic was from their "Professional" line, made for people doing AutoCAD and shit like that. It wasn't the shit you bought at Sam's Club or Circuit Shitty.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 11:48:42 2017 No.4260762
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>>4251351
Got this 32’ Sanyo Vizzon for free from my local thrift store. It has component, svideo, composite, and even optical out. The TV itself is 480i, but I think it might be digital and the tv itself looks like it came out around 07/08. Anyways, I’m very satisfied with it, the colors are vibrant, and pixels are sharp. The only thing better than this set would be a Trinitron.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 12:39:56 2017 No.4260848

>>4260762
Wow I didn't know SD CRTVs could have optical audio output.
That TV is definitely standard def and not digital because extended definition/progressive/HD CRTs cannot make scanlines.

The date of the TV should be written on the back with the model number.

Oh, and Panasonic Tau>Sony Trinitron

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 12:49:44 2017 No.4260870 >>4260848 >Panasonic Tau Yeah, all 9 of them that were made.

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>>4260848
I checked the date on the back it says 07’. The optical out definitly an oddity, along with the DTV tuner on the back. The manual I found online says it can output Dolby 5.1, I’m going to test the optical output once I reorganize my room. The model is HT27547 if anyone is interested. Pardon the dust.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:00:55 2017 No.4261073
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>>4260848
The optical out is definitely an oddity, along with the DTV tuner on the back. I found a manual online and it says the TV can output Dolby 5.1 through optical, I’m going to test it out once I reorganize my room. If anyone is interested the model is HT27547 and the label on the the back says it was manufactured in 07’.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:05:20 2017 No.4261083 >>4260848 Oh shit I have a Tau and thought it was shit. Thanks for preventing me from doing something stupid like throwing it out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:12:04 2017 No.4261096 >>4255662 Lucky Frenchman, all other Master System II models (UK, Australia, Germany, Brazil etc.) is stuck with RF.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:17:07 2017 No.4261102 >>4259494 Not worth the time or money. Has a tiny screen that distorts in high-contrast areas alongside shitty sound, combis are generally built poorly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:20:05 2017 No.4261110 Can you americans use 480p on a crt with component?

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:35:20 2017 No.4261142

>>4260175
Had a dodgy red connection once, gave me a insight into dogs' color vision (they only have yellow and blue receptors)

>>4261073
Nice set, didn't look like it was doing any upscaling - probably an analog design with a digital receiver tacked on to meet government requirements. It only displays 480i - along with the screenshot, a very good sign that it will handle older consoles without issues! Shame these TVs never lasted long before LCD took over everything (the concept never made it to Europe or elsewhere).

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:38:44 2017 No.4261150 >>4261110 From my experience only HD CRT’s can accept 480p.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:43:10 2017 No.4261163 >come home to see my cat on my precious crt Luckily I smacked the shit out of it. It's scared to come out now because it knows I'd smack it some more. When I get close it cries.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:53:39 2017 No.4261187 >>4261110 Can non-americans do that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 16:10:11 2017 No.4261220 Is it even possible to get flat screen CRTs geometry perfect? No matter how hard I try it's always slightly off and it's triggering the shit out of my autism.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 16:17:18 2017 No.4261230

>>4261142
Thanks, I’m glad it’s not digital. Sadly this is as modern an analog CRT will ever get. I feel real lucky to find this TV set, it probably would have ended up in a dumpster if I didn’t pick it up. I’ll post some more pictures once I’m around my computer again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 16:28:30 2017 No.4261247 >>4261187 We don't have (if there are any even) crt's with component but since americans had it, I was wondering

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 16:51:13 2017 No.4261275 >>4261163 Lol what

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 17:02:12 2017 No.4261283 >>4261275 I beat my cat sometimes. Choke it. Smack it. All in good fun. Sometimes my cat is doing something I don't like but sometimes it's just for fun.

Abwezi Fri Sep 15 17:12:48 2017 No.4261303

I know PS2 is non retro but I wanted to ask if I'm missing anything trying to find the source of this visual noise my ps2 has on my CRT? I have two other component devices hooked up to the same splitter box that recieve no noise. I just purchased another PS2 power cable which didn't fix the issue and then I've also tried using other ports on the power strip that the other consoles run fine on but that didn't fix it and I even bypassed the power strip entirely. At this point should I try another set of component cables or is there something else I'm missing?

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:29:01 2017 No.4261415
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I got a second hand Trinitron KV-32FS60E for 20€

It's pretty good, only problem was it weights 70kg and it was a bitch to move it to my house lmao

It's a big TV, for me, and it looks okay, I think? I don't know how to take a fancy picture of dem pixels

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:30:06 2017 No.4261417 File: 1.03 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_2024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4261415 Thicc

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:34:46 2017 No.4261428 >>4261415 >>4261417 Not retro

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:06:40 2017 No.4261492 File: 1.33 MB, 2000x1500, IMG_2043.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4261428 Are we talking semantics here or am I missing something? I thought "modern" CRT are still CRT

>>	/vr/ guy Fri Sep 15 19:10:10 2017 No.4261501 >>4261492 It's 16:9.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:10:47 2017 No.4261502 >>4261303 get official ps3 (yes, PS3) component cables, don't use third party PS2 components. ps2 component (y/pb/pr) isn't very good and is noticeably worse than RGB.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:30:31 2017 No.4261537 >>4261501 Okay now you're just being a cunt.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:31:07 2017 No.4261539 >>4261501 It supports and is running in 4:3 at the moment (??)

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>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:33:57 2017 No.4261548 >>4261539 Lmao, ignore him anon, he's just trying to bait you, I hope

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:35:22 2017 No.4261552 >>4261547 Damn, this is actually pretty cool

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:37:09 2017 No.4261558 >>4261548 Being a rude meanie is fun I guess, but he should post his setup along with his replies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:49:06 2017 No.4261580 >>4261558 Did I mention I hurt cats? It's pretty fun chasing scared cats...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:51:42 2017 No.4261585 File: 1.48 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_2014.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4261580 I will let my cat sleep on top of my warm CRT to balance things out.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:58:28 2017 No.4261602

I'm buying a Sony Trinitron KV-29X5L 29" for my consoles but I have a binding
bid on a NOKIA 7155 CRT for 44$ and I think I'm going to keep it as a back up.

If I do keep the Nokia tv as a backup, how do I properly store it?
(The Nokia TV has barely been used for more than 20 years according to the seller)

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 20:01:43 2017 No.4261608 >>4261547 nice anon, pretty jelly

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 20:15:44 2017 No.4261620 File: 3.66 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_20170915_190450.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anyone know how I can address the warping on this monitor? dell p780. it doesn't bother me much but if it can be fixed I'd like to try

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 20:20:54 2017 No.4261626 >>4261552 >>4261608 Not retro, it's 16:9

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 20:50:37 2017 No.4261673 >>4261626 It's also for a game that came out literally 5 months ago. I'll speak to my cats about this...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 20:58:29 2017 No.4261683 I don t know how to take photos

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>>	Abwezi Fri Sep 15 21:09:12 2017 No.4261698 >>4261502 Thanks for the heads up

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 21:57:08 2017 No.4261774 >>4261620 Is it a flat tube? Those usually have some sort of upward bow that's not easily correctable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 22:42:25 2017 No.4261860 >>4261547 Damn man this is sexy. Once I start making the dough I'm going to buy the first best d32e1wu that I can find, wherever that may be.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 23:18:49 2017 No.4261901

Some old timer TV repair men claim that old console style CRTVs from the 60s and 70s had superior picture to 90s and 2000s CRTVs which they refer to as silver plastic crap and black plastic crap respectively.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_ChAk0PGls

How can this be true if the newer CRTVs have better solid state electronics inside and more modern phosphor chemicals?
Assume that both the "new" and old CRTVs are connected to PSX via RF cable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 23:25:33 2017 No.4261905 >>4261901 Probably because the guy is talking about some no name CRT from china.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 23:27:49 2017 No.4261910 >>4261901 Depends, as always on the CRT in question. Shitty 60s TVs exist and great 00s TVs exist.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 23:57:18 2017 No.4261950 >>4261774 Yeah it's flat, that's what I figured. Thanks for the reply :~)

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 00:28:39 2017 No.4262008

>>4261905
No, all his videos he hates on SPC and BPC Japanese CRTVs from the late 80s on and praises American made 60s and 70s TVs like Zenith for their superior picture quality.

I can understand how they might have superior audio given that console style TVs can have one large mono speaker instead of 2 small stereo on BPC/SPC sets but how can their screens display better video quality?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 04:48:08 2017 No.4262404 Fuck, my consumer CRT has some overscan (11px bottom, 4 left, 2 top, 0 right), the options are completely barebones so I guess I'm fucked. Anyone experienced this

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 05:26:14 2017 No.4262441 >>4262404 What model and can you post a pic?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 05:41:41 2017 No.4262457 >>4262008 They don't, he has probably had a job or family members have worked in some of the American plants at that time. There are some nice American sets but based on that linked video he seems like a clueless fudd.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 06:09:32 2017 No.4262474 >>4254405 You need to set a custom aspect ratio on the Retroarch config too, 8:1

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 08:21:21 2017 No.4262570

>>4258047
>>4259143
Because most arcade setups aren't any better than a consumer set with RGB/SCART? In fact anything but a Nanao is worse than most. And consumer sets come with their own case too, no need for plywood. And you need a video amp, most of the time.

There are some advantages to higher-end chassis and tubes, like trisync stuff, thick phosphor-coat and the ability to drive the contrast high, but it's only the higher end chassis like the Nanao shit. And for what a good Nanao + tube costs, you can pick up a PVM-2530/2730, which provides a superior 15kHz picture.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 08:27:16 2017 No.4262574

>>4259148
>>4262570
I am curious about the yoke swap you mentioned, as I've never had to do that. Is it just a like for like replacement, not counting changing the series/parallel vertical coil wiring changes you can make. I've seen the weird 3d line-landscape effect the raster turns into with an incompatible yoke, but not something close-but-no-cigar, if that makes sense.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 08:51:50 2017 No.4262604

>>4262574
If your yoke goes bad (it does happen), it's a one-for-one swap. Actually, it's far more common that the flyback to fail than the yoke to go bad. And even then, the flyback going bad is not nearly as common as old worn out caps.

>superior 15kHz picture

Arcade monitors are also RGB 15kHz. But unlike 13" and 17" PVM's, arcade monitors can be 25" or even 27".

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 09:02:22 2017 No.4262621

>>4262604
>Arcade monitors are also RGB 15kHz. But unlike 13" and 17" PVM's, arcade monitors can be 25" or even 27".
PVM-2530/2730 is 25", the PVM 2950 is 29", the PVM-3250 is 32" and a bit on the rare side. The last two have a 600 TVL tube, and look way nicer than a Nanao in perfect condition. All can be had for cheaper. The Nanao might be trisync though. And using a trinitron of any stripe in an arcade cab is for butchers. But re: your original post, i'd go the PVM over the Nanao any day this decade or next decade even if you offered me a cased Nanao. After that, the Nanao can be repaired way easier, so I really don't know what i'd pick.

And about the yoke - how does it go bad? I know you can rewind it if you have a broken coil or similar. What else happens?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 09:04:44 2017 No.4262625 >>4262621 >What else happens? Oh, duh. Insulation breaking down , i guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 09:06:25 2017 No.4262631 >>4262621 oh, and the 2950/3250 will take YPbPr. And S-video and composite, should they ever be required... like if you have a laserdisc fetish or something ;)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 09:11:28 2017 No.4262640 >>4262621 >PVM-2530/2730 is 25", the PVM 2950 is 29", the PVM-3250 is 32" Have you seen the prices on any of those?

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 09:14:09 2017 No.4262647

>>4262640
I guess my whole thing with the arcade monitor was, you can get 15kHz RGB, on a big monitor, for not a lot of money. That was why I was wondering why more people didn't use them.

Of course I'm not saying they're the end-all, be-all, but I am saying that bang for the buck, if you're willing to put in the effort, they're hard to beat.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 10:23:42 2017 No.4262780

Anyone else have the problem that after lining up your crts geometry perfect with the grid in 240p test suite that it ends up cutting off the sides when you play something on the Wii? It especially shows when doing something like using Netflix on the Wii as you'll see lots of stuff is cutoff from the sides even though my geometry is near perfect

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 10:28:23 2017 No.4262782 >>4262640 I have a PVM-2730, I got it for around $40 in the unsold lots of an online auction

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 10:32:09 2017 No.4262791 >>4261247 I do and I'm not American

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 10:33:56 2017 No.4262796 File: 18 KB, 300x339, C7AzPj9U4AA-4zi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4261547 >16:9

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 10:41:59 2017 No.4262814 >>4262782 Holy shit! STEAL! How much was the shipping though?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 11:11:39 2017 No.4262858 >>4261547 Wow, Mario 64 really does look different on a CRT.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 11:25:47 2017 No.4262889 File: 1.14 MB, 4272x2856, 1499024063937.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4262640 My 2950QM cost £40 BIN local collection on ebay about 6 months ago

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 13:57:34 2017 No.4263217 >>4261502 Um, I think when they say PS2 has bad component they mean the component encoder on the circuitboard of the PS2 is lousy not the official or unofficial PS2 component cables are bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 14:04:13 2017 No.4263232 >>4261415 Picture looks good, shame about the composhite connection though. Brightness could be turned down a touch, it looks washed out in the vid.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 14:18:54 2017 No.4263259

Is there anyone who makes and sells high quality composite and S-video cables for SMS, Genesis, SNES, N64, Gamecube that the same high quality as retroconsoleaccessories shops has for SCART/RGB?

I look all over ebay and can only find cheapo chink cables for these systems. (you know the ones, the most common ones with basic plug and thin wire).

I want nice quality cables for my systems but I have no time to roll my own.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 14:40:56 2017 No.4263308 >>4263259 SMS and Genesis you need to mod them. The advantage is you can then just install a socket and use a HQ svideo cable that are still very cheap.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 14:51:33 2017 No.4263334 >>4262814 It was in London and so I made them hold on to it until I was in London for a flight and picked it up on the way back

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 15:19:48 2017 No.4263413 >>4262814 Oh and it came with it's complete flightcase too. I'm guessing most of the stuff in these auctions are repossessed from bankrupt businesses, they don't give a fuck how cheap they go as long as they get rid of it

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 15:54:08 2017 No.4263491 >>4263232 Would buying component cables and plugging them into a component->SCART improve anything or that'd be just retarded?

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 16:08:13 2017 No.4263523

>>4262780
NTSC resolution is actually closer to 704x480 than 640x480, so if you have the 320x240p or 640x480i grids pushed out the the edges of the tube, you'll be cutting off the edges of video content that expects to use the full horizontal resolution.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 16:11:59 2017 No.4263530 >>4263491 It'd be retarded to fall for the scart meme when there's no need at all for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 16:30:49 2017 No.4263573 >>4263530 My CRT has >SCART >SCART >SCART >S-Video >RGB

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 16:34:35 2017 No.4263586 >>4263573 Isn't the RGB also Component?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 16:41:57 2017 No.4263598 >>4263586 It's only RGB unfortunately. Which is why I wonder if I were to plug a console with components cable through SCART it would just not work as I would expect.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 16:43:12 2017 No.4263603 >>4252867 mitsubishi 1600x1200 22" flat tube. 5 bnc hnnnng

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 16:55:35 2017 No.4263631

Not really crt related except that it involves using my PVM 2530.
I want to get rgb picture out of my NTSC Gamecube through scart, but as we know PAL Gamecubes were the only ones natively capable of that. My next best thing to do would be to use S-video, but the problem is that the S-video port on my 2530 is 'supposedly' broken. Meaning, when I purchased it, the buyer told me it was broken, but I have no way of testing this to be true.

I don't want to spend $200+ on component cables or other such things, so I found a compromise/workaround that I want a 2nd opinion on.

I found a device that takes in composite S-video, and converts it to component RGB sync on green. http://www.ambery.com/costorgrgbco.html That's not the only thing it does, but it's advertised as such and what I'd use it for.

My idea, is to get a standard Gamecube S-video cable, connect it to the signal converter device, and hook it up to some custom Gamecube Scart cables from retro console accessories that take the signal and ends in a Scart connector, and I supposedly get my rgb signal that I want!

NTSC Gamecube --> S-video cable --> converter --> rgb scart cable --> PVM

Is this something that could work? My only other option would be to lug my 2530 to a qualified repair shop and have my S-video port repaired at a costly sum.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 17:03:14 2017 No.4263647

>>4263631
get an el cheapo dvd player with s-video and test your monitor first. See if it doesn't work at all, works if wiggled around or if it even plain works. Then you can decide if you can fix it or go for your solution.
Alternatively, an internal board for RGB on any GC is being worked on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 17:04:12 2017 No.4263651 >>4263631 How about you test out the s-video port before you start worrying about adding video decoders and other shit to your signal chain?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 17:05:32 2017 No.4263654 >>4263647 Who's working on those internal RGB boards for GC? link?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 17:06:33 2017 No.4263656 >>4263654 citrus3000psi on shmups

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 18:19:59 2017 No.4263795
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I don't know where to put my CRT but obviously the floor isn't doing it justice. I might make a section in my room for this. Might make it a desk setup or something since it's a 14" that kinda looks like a computer monitor. What furniture setup do you guys have?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 18:35:02 2017 No.4263814 >>4255023 PS1 and PS2 use the same cable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 19:11:39 2017 No.4263905 >>4251351 Does anyone know where I can grab a fragment shader that emulates a CRT?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 19:12:34 2017 No.4263908 >>4263814 Thanks wiki.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 19:15:42 2017 No.4263912 >>4263905 Nvm actually found a bunch on shader toy.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 19:22:41 2017 No.4263929

>>4262640
Any chance you're in Aus looking at that 2730 listed for $2k on eBay? Not in perfect condition, combined with the single most ridiculous price for a CRT on record. I picked mine up a few years ago for...let's a say a little less than that :)

>>4262647
A Nanao or one of very few equivalents of that quality in good condition will cost you about A$400 minimum, and a non-working but repairable one is still about $200-$250. And even then won't be as nice as a good late model panasonic/JVC/Sony with an RGB-to-YPbPr transcoder. The latter will also be cheaper. Other arcade monitors aren't worth considering, they just not good enough. Fine for purpose, but that purpose is mostly to fit into an arcade cab.

>>4263631
Does your PVM take S-Video? There are revisions of the 2530 with and without S-Video. If so, use S-Video, the conversion to RGB won't gain you anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 19:31:00 2017 No.4263939 >>4263929 I have an S-video port on my 2530 but it's broken. I actually remember now testing it with my friend's snes with S-video cables. Didn't work.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 19:49:52 2017 No.4263973

>>4252867
>VGA
https://www.videogameperfection.com/2016/07/08/source-converter-verdict/
Retard here and I have a question.
The OSSC is how you convert from YPBPR to VGA without lag, right? Or rather, with less than 1ms.
Does that mean anything, ANYTHING else WILL induce lag?

Like this mayflash Wii VGA adapter?
https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-Wii-PS3-HDTV-Cable-Nintendo/dp/B0015MISAG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505605646&sr=8-1&keywords=wii+vga

Kya !kDashing02 Sat Sep 16 20:28:06 2017 No.4264053

>>4263973
>The OSSC is how you convert from YPBPR to VGA without lag, right? Or rather, with less than 1ms.
OSSC is a scaler; Native Analog Video in, Scaled Digital Video Out.

If you're looking to go from Component(YPbPr) to VGA(RGBHV), you need a transcoder of some sort. The signal stays analog, and the resolution doesn't change, only the color space and how it is carried along the wire(s).

That Mayflash adapter has a transcoder inline, and draws power from the console it's connected to. It's not that great in terms of quality though. And if you're looking to use one of those consoles (specifically the Wii) with a PC CRT, you need to know that it has to be in 480p mode for the monitor to recognize it, the transcoder will not let you use/run 480i or 240p on a PC CRT. So long as you have the PS3 in 480p mode (or potentially higher, though that transcoder may not work well with that) you'll be fine.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 21:53:47 2017 No.4264195

>>4259407
A Sony Trinitron or a Panasonic Tau would be good bets.
Make sure to browse second hand stores/donation places so you won't get gouged to shit on ebay.
SV2000s are the same combo pieces of shit like >>4259494. It's a cheap easy start, sure, and better than an HDTV, but it's nothing you want to stick with for long.

>>	Abwezi Sat Sep 16 22:31:00 2017 No.4264262 >>4263217 Idk I think either way I've eliminated everything but a bad cord on my end so I'm gonna try one of those ps3 component cables and see if I have any luck

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 00:50:47 2017 No.4264520 I am choosing a CRT TV from craigslist to replace my LCD TV. Can anyone give a full list of all pros and cons of Shadow Mask vs Aperture Grille?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 03:26:43 2017 No.4264745 Do larger CRTs pick up magnetic fields (purity problems) more or less easily than small CRTs? Do larger CRTs need to be degaussed more or less often than small CRTs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 03:28:18 2017 No.4264747 A friend and I want to finally play through the Metal Slug series; what's the best way to go about getting them on my Trinitron at 240p? Because I've heard the PS2 and Wii versions have filters on them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 03:41:45 2017 No.4264760 >>4264747 240p through emulation, I think the Wii VC versions of Metal Slug allows you to use a 240p mode

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 03:45:32 2017 No.4264767

>>4264760
Ah, so Virtual Console for 1/2 (that's all apparently) and MAME for the rest then?
Can do. It's a damn shame the Anthologies have filters/only output 480i because I already have a PS2 RGB cable and that would have been the simplest solution; gotta order a Wii RGB cable now then.

Thank you for the advice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 05:27:54 2017 No.4264867 >>4262889 I have to say, that's a very well put together setup.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 07:28:09 2017 No.4264963 >>4264520 Thats a dumb idea. If its a tv, aperture grille is better, if its a pro monitor or pc monitor, shadow mask is better especially if its a late run one.

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Sun Sep 17 08:17:57 2017 No.4265020 File: 1.01 MB, 3280x2460, 102_2927.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4264767 PS2 Anthologies has a hex edit you can do that will get you clean 240p out of it. And if you prefer the VC route, X and 3 are also available.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 10:48:24 2017 No.4265251 >>4263217 >>4264262 You can do a little to improve the ps2s component image by using official cables but it won't be a massive change. Just the unfortunate reality of the system, rgb is the best way to go with it.

>>	Abwezi Sun Sep 17 11:03:10 2017 No.4265279 >>4265251 Do you really think this noisey interference could a problem with the PS2 itself is that a known issue?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 11:12:33 2017 No.4265296 File: 78 KB, 270x1200, C_A5L-1XcAA7aBr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4264747

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 13:18:08 2017 No.4265607 >>4263795 is that the one from Ebay recently for like 69$, it was on Ebay for a long time its probably shit and youre missing the most important Sony logo there

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 13:20:21 2017 No.4265615 >>4264053 Yeah but I thought one of its functions was converting YPBPR to VGA? So the mayflash one WON'T induce lag?

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 14:12:15 2017 No.4265738
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>>4265607
>its probably shit
Nah, the 1311 is solid
>and youre missing the most important Sony logo there
Just order a replacement
http://www.vath.co/product_info.php?products_id=79

Kya !kDashing02 Sun Sep 17 18:28:15 2017 No.4266363

>>4265615
>Yeah but I thought one of its functions was converting YPBPR to VGA?
I'm not gonna lie, I really don't pay too much attention to scalers, but to my knowledge anything going in is coming out as a digital signal, so definitely not VGA.

And no, the Mayflash isn't going to introduce any lag. What display are you looking to feed the VGA output to?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 19:11:12 2017 No.4266456 >>4265615 OSSC is DVI/HDMI out, you can add a cheapo adapter on the output if you want VGA http://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php?title=Analogue_video_output_options_for_OSSC

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 19:18:17 2017 No.4266464 >>4265296 I love /v/ may mays.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 21:49:09 2017 No.4266714 >>4264520 Generally speaking, aperture grille -> brighter shadow mask -> sharper slot mask -> neither

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 22:35:27 2017 No.4266826

>>4256583
Hold the fuck up. Please explain what you're trying to do first.

Dithering refers to the technique used to simulate more colors, not its visual effects due to encoder filtering or poor eyesight. Attempts to turn dithering into more colors are called undithering.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 00:43:16 2017 No.4267012

Just won a local Sony PVM-1344Q for $100 on ebay. Going to pick it up soon, this is my first broadcast monitor. As CRT-savvy as I am, I understand PVMs have a little more to them, anything I need to know? I'm ordering BNC to RCA adapters, and from what I understand I need some 75 ohm terminators or something for the outputs?

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 00:49:42 2017 No.4267027

>>4267012
>from what I understand I need some 75 ohm terminators or something for the outputs?
Many PVMs have either a switch to connect the terminator on the outputs or some circuitry to auto terminate when nothing is connected to the output. Check the manual of your model.

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Sep 18 01:14:57 2017 No.4267073

>>4267027
>>4267027
**40 series has auto termination unless there's problem with the monitor.

It is an older set, so it's not impossible that it's gonna have some quirks about it; And that it's going to require physical adjustment for stuff like the geometry and all that, no OSD.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 01:17:11 2017 No.4267079 >>4267012 its not a broadcast monitor, just a pvm. I don't think this one has self-termination on unused outputs so it would be a good idea to get some 75ohm terminators for every output not used.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 04:22:46 2017 No.4267284 Any suggestions towards stopping 240p res from enlarging itself to the point that it cuts off?

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 05:50:13 2017 No.4267376

How come on some games like Klonoa DTF, there is always a little screen cut off on the side despite using a 240psuite grid and other games fitting normally?

Even in the settings they provide a screen adjust option as if they knew it needed it. It's such a stupid thing but my autism.

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Sep 18 06:17:12 2017 No.4267405
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>>4267376
>>4267376
>klonoa down to fuck

Different sync signals can cause a different delay in how long it takes before the image starts getting drawn to the screen, meaning you'll get CVid or Luma drawing a little bit later than CSync and as such you'll end up with consoles running the former getting unused space at left of the picture, or the latter at the right.
To add to this, different consoles and even different games on the same console start drawing into the raster/use less of the raster at different times, meaning you're going to have an SNES having the left of it's active area starting at a different point than say a Genesis, and a game like Super Mario World might fit the screen perfectly (or have some on the left cut off) and then you put SMRPG in and there's a black border around the screen, which may even in turn change depending on what part of the game you're viewing (menu vs overworld vs battle map).

Games like Phantomile are just smart to include a way to adjust it nice and quick in game rather than forcing you to adjust the set just for it(assuming it even allows you).

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Sep 18 06:36:35 2017 No.4267437

>>4267284
>>4267405
And to answer the "enlarging itself" question, assuming you mean how different games might run into the overscan area a bit and lose some information, that's to be expected and is normal behavior; If you absolutely don't want any overscan and want to see the full raster at all times, either just underscan the entire raster so that the tube isn't drawing anything at all out there(not really advised) or find what ever game you own/care to play makes the most use of the raster and adjust your Horizontal and Vertical size until it shows everything for that game.

Alternatively, if you're running 240p Suite to make this adjustments to, putting the red dots(not the red squares themselves) right at the edge of the visible screen will usually give you a safe amount of overscan; Some stuff may get drawn out there, but it should be well within the safe zone of just about anything you'll actually be displaying.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 06:51:00 2017 No.4267449

So I am completely retarded in everything because I am a dumb amaerican. Will scart cables work on American consoles? Will this kind of adaptor work from those cables to my american tv? Will it work with scart switchers?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Female-RGB-Euro-SCART-to-4-BNC-Audio-Cable-Sony-PVM-Sega-Genesis-SNES-Neo-Geo-/202029910402?hash=item2f09ebc982:g:tQQAAMXQAEFSD-4B
Just want to know before I commit to a buy

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Sep 18 06:57:27 2017 No.4267456

>>4267449
>Will scart cables work on American consoles?
Yes, but you also have to consider the console in question and how the cables are actually wired (NTSC consoles for some systems need components to be in the SCART cable where they either aren't in the equivalent PAL console, or the PAL console needs different components).

On top of this, some systems like the GC have RGB available on PAL consoles, but not on NTSC ones.

If you have a "tv" or monitor that accepts RGB over BNC, that cable should work fine with it in most cases. It should also work with switchers, but you may need an additional male to male scart cable to connect the two depending on the switcher in question.

There are a lot of caveats to this sort of thing; What consoles do you intend to play, and what "tv" and switchers do you intend to use them with?

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 07:03:49 2017 No.4267463
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>>4267456
I plan on doing this with a US gamecube for gba games, snes, Genesis and I am planning on buying a famicom so I can take advantage of certain game audios like the jp version of castlevania 3. From what you told me us gamecube is now out of the question. As for my tv I grabbed this recently and it has the rgb component card

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 07:19:56 2017 No.4267482 >>4261547 that's fucking sexy anon. I hope I stumble across one eventually.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 07:31:34 2017 No.4267503

>>4262796
its just a bracket. I have 3 of the Ikegami versions and you can just remove the 16:9 frame, push a button and enjoy the full 4:3 screen. 16:9 is scanned down.

Planning on getting a Panasonic one next. It's all the same monitor however. Although Ikegami is the coolest to own by virtue of that logo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 07:38:08 2017 No.4267509 Triniton KV-24FV300 for $50 near me, is that a good price? I'm totally new to all this, all I have at home now is a JVC AV32120.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 07:44:27 2017 No.4267516 >>4267509 sony's better, not $50 + a size downgrade better. If you want a better crt save the $50 and keep a few extra for a pro monitor.

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Sep 18 07:46:37 2017 No.4267519

>>4267463
>tv
No tuner, so it's a monitor, not a TV.

Gamecube will either need to drop down to S-Video, or needs the Component/D-Terminal cables/GCVideo Lite of some sort. Alternatively, grab a PAL GC and just go wild with homebrew; You'll get RGB and 60hz RGB no problem.

SNES cable needs to have an NTSC specific SCART cable, but that's easy enough to get from either r_c_a or retrogamingcables; Can go cheaper but the likelihood of audio buzzing goes through the roof.

Genesis is pretty much standard for most consoles, but be careful with the really cheap ones; I've gotten a cheap chinese cable which didn't have resistors on the video lines, which is required no matter the region.

Famicom is going to be entirely dependent on the RGB mod done on it. Ask/check with who does it for you. If you're sticking with composite, you can ignore all of that.

>>4267509
I mean, you would be upgrading to Component rather than the S-Video of the JVC, but how much of a benefit to you is dependent on what consoles you're using/if you're planning to drop more money to make use of that better signal with older consoles.

The FV300 would be a nice TV, but it doesn't have the HV regulator of the 310 that gets fawned over; $50 for a 24'' consumer model is a bit much, and I'd almost definitely try to talk them down a bit, but if it's in quite good shape and you want it, go for it I guess. Not like they're asking $500 for it or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 07:49:27 2017 No.4267523 >>4267516 Reading from the pastebin, it seems like monitors have better video but worse audio? Sorry for ignorance, I've just been scanning through this stuff.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 07:59:45 2017 No.4267532

>>4267519
Well the monitor can't support s-video so that is out of the question. Will A us gameboy player work on a pal gc? Not talking about the disc but the add-on itself. If it is does the homebrew require the gba player disk? If any of this is a yes I'll buy one right now

So pretty much get the cables from retrogamingcables to be on the safe side.

I know no one who mods consoles and looking up on google to see if anyone in my area does has no results so I guess I am shit out of luck on that front.

Thanks for your help

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Sep 18 08:09:11 2017 No.4267539

>>4267523
They're intended for high video quality. The fact some of them have a little speaker to use is just an after thought. If you're looking for some dedicated hardware just for video, it only makes sense to do the same and get a dedicated audio setup as well.

If they have any audio at all, it's usually going to be a tiny <1 watt mono speaker hiding below the tube; Works in a pinch, but nothing you'd want to actually use as a permanent solution. Even a set of cheap PC speakers would be a better option.

For comparison, a consumer Sony TV is going to be somewhere between 7.5w and 15w or so, possibly with bass boxes around them, or possibly even a sub.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 08:13:57 2017 No.4267542

>>4267523
Yup. Some people prefer old consumer sets and RF connections though, it should be said, but if you want crisp 15kHz CRT goodness, it has to be a pro monitor of some description. Audio you can get elsewhere, video quality you can't.

There are some lovely 4:3 consumer sets out there too, though. But for my money a pro monitor is nicer.

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Sep 18 08:14:22 2017 No.4267543

>>4267532
You say your monitor can't support S-Video, but that's likely just it not having the right input card. Those DTV monitors should have more than 1 slot for input cards, so you should only have 1 occupied by the RGB/Component card. That just means you'd need to find the appropriate card that would presumably give you a few Composite and S-Video inputs to work with. What model is it specifically?

Game Boy Player is region free, the disc itself is what has region locking; You should be using Game Boy Interface no matter what you decide on anyway; It's better than the original software in every way. Also makes things cheaper since it's the disc that you're usually paying more for.

https://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2782
Comes in 3 flavors; Standard is essentially a replacement for the original software, Low Latency gets you a mix of some features and reduced lag, Ultra Low Latency aims to get lag as low as possible and disregarding pretty much anything else.

So long as you make sure the cables you get are labeled as NTSC, RGC's cables will work fine.

For modding, you'd need to likely ship it off to someone. What little modding I've had done to my systems I've done for myself for better or worse, so I can't really recommend anyway directly for that.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 08:29:15 2017 No.4267551

>>4267543
jvc dt-v1710cgu

Sweet I already have the player so guess i'll buy a pal gc.

Well this was under their ntsc section so I am assuming it's safe
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/NTSC-RGB-SCART-CABLES/sega-mega-drive-1-sega-genesis-1-stereo-rgb-av-scart-cable-tv-lead-pro-build.. and buy this for the scart switcher https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/male-rgb-break-out-scart-to-4-x-bnc--2-x-rca-converter-cable?search=scart%20male to simply switch consoles right? I also assume the snes cable will work with the pal gc because they share the same inputs and I should just buy two there

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Sep 18 08:51:55 2017 No.4267575

>>4267551
>I also assume the snes cable will work with the pal gc because they share the same inputs and I should just buy two there

For a PAL GC and NTSC SNES, you're good.

As for that breakout, if you're planning on just using one console at a time, you'd want the first one you linked(or RGC equivalent, you'd just NEED a female/socket, not a male/connector).

If you're planning on using a switch to have multiple cables hooked up at once, it'd all depend on the switch in question. Some have female sockets which would work with the male one you just linked, some(usually cheaper and worse) have built in cables with male connectors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 09:04:48 2017 No.4267594 >>4267575 was thinking about getting this switcher here https://www.amazon.com/Hama-SCART-Switch-Box-AV-100S/dp/B00006JAUZ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1505739771&sr=8-3&keywords=scart+switcher Wanted to hook up multiple consoles to one switcher

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 09:06:12 2017 No.4267598
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>>4253458
The resolution I use is 1920x240, and I set this resolution in the retroarch.cfg file under custom_viewport_width and height.
The video_aspect_ratio value should be set to 8, and aspect_ratio_index to 22.

Using a tvout shader, the stretched pixels get properly blended to simulate the tapering you'll see on 15Hz CRTs.

I took this picture with a phone and scaled it down 50% to avoid filesize issues, so it's not very good quality and the brighter colors are overexposed, but it shows the result pretty well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 09:06:28 2017 No.4267601 >>4251996 You just proved >>4251993 right, burger :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 09:07:43 2017 No.4267604 >>4267601 Fuck I meant proved >>4251982 right

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Sep 18 09:09:12 2017 No.4267606

>>4267594
Yeah, the male one would be the one to get if you want to connect directly to the switch.

You may want to opt for getting the female breakout and using this cable to connect the switch to the breakout however, as the breakout may be shorter than you'd like and force you to have the switch in a less than desirable position.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DYELZXE/

6 additional feet should give you more than enough room to work with as such.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 09:13:03 2017 No.4267613

>>4267606
I'll consider that. thanks for the help. Gonne be spending a decent penny on the cables and the switcher but i'll do it for that perfect crt quality especially for my snes and genesis that only use shitty composite and it bugs the hell out of me. Shame about the famicom but sure i'll find a way.
Really thanks for the help.

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Mon Sep 18 11:45:44 2017 No.4267784 >>4267613 >a decent penny on the cables and the switcher If you ever decide to head down the extron rabbit hole, it'll only get worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 13:50:22 2017 No.4267998 >>4261547 Could you take another photo with Link in the Gerudo suit holding or if possible, eating a banana?

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 13:56:09 2017 No.4268010

>>4263491
>>4263573
Just use a SNES SCART cable then. On a set this large, the difference will be noticable, especially around the blue and white text in the above shot.

You could also get an S-Video cable; it would be better than composite, but it will not be compatible with GameCube, and PAL equipment that supports S-Video is uncommon (if your set were to break etc.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 14:13:28 2017 No.4268038 Does anyone have any knowledge of Sharp Linytron CRTVs? There's one for sale at the flea market here and it has the original remote. How do they compare to Sony Trinitrons?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 14:25:08 2017 No.4268064 File: 262 KB, 1098x1563, 1505759108661.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4267998 What is this new meme?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 15:35:02 2017 No.4268198 >>4267437 Does this still apply with a crt monitor or...?

>>	Abwezi Mon Sep 18 15:41:50 2017 No.4268215 File: 1.20 MB, 2048x1152, DSC_0017.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 1/2 Comparison of Ape Escape emulated side by side on my WEGA and a 4k TV with simple scanline filter

>>	Abwezi Mon Sep 18 15:43:00 2017 No.4268220 File: 897 KB, 2048x1152, DSC_0018.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4268215 2/2 The color difference in these is what really stood out to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 17:42:21 2017 No.4268475 Does anyone have any knowledge of Panasonic GAOO TVs? They are semi curved just like Hi-black Trinitrons. There is one on Craigslist near me. Should I get it? How do they compare to Hi-black Trinitrons?

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 17:49:10 2017 No.4268484

For the audiophiles:

Is there any difference between using the CRTV's audio output jacks or headphone out jacks and bypassing that by only plugging in the video and using a coupler to add another RCA cable to the console cable and go directly to the amp?

Will the former method risk the signal being contaminated by noise from within the TV and its circuitry?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:09:15 2017 No.4268640 >>4268484 Via the TV likely will add in noise, picking up some 60/120Hz or 15kHz in particular are likely, whether it's enough to notice depends on the TV, try it out for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:41:40 2017 No.4268670 >>4268010 I play GB and GBA through GBP on my GC, it really doesn't support S-Video? What about, god forbid, the Wii?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:49:53 2017 No.4268685 >>4268670 euro GC doesn't output S-video na GC doesn't output RGB the same is true for Wii, but it a soft limitation on it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:50:43 2017 No.4268689 >>4268670 NTSC region cube does support S-Video.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:29:12 2017 No.4268771 File: 51 KB, 384x532, 332316fce8008f4e93df5deeebd14d5a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4267027 >>4267079 Just found this in the manual. Safe to assume I don't need the terminators? Says auto-termination is built in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:32:02 2017 No.4268775 >>4268771 rule of thumb is video monitors like PVMs have auto termination, broadcast monitor like BVMs need terminators, presentation monitors like Megaview have a switch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:36:31 2017 No.4268780 File: 18 KB, 1164x388, pctosd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this still the best/cleanest way to emulate on a sd tv?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 21:42:55 2017 No.4268904 >>4268780 crt emudriver can usually give you composite sync already, in which case don't need the kenzei box.

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Sep 18 23:04:54 2017 No.4269040

>>4268198
For something like a PVM where it's still dealing with SD resolutions, yes. In this case you often have access to overscan/underscan buttons to instantly shrink/expand the image to either show the full raster or to zoom in, so it isn't as big of a deal.

For PC CRTs, no, since when you're adjusting the geometry/screen size on those, you're really not supposed to be applying any overscan; Every part of the active area should be visible, and nothing should go beyond this (outside of it switching to a different resolution which isn't properly setup).

>>4268780
>>4268904
>Kenzei for sync processing
A cheap Extron RGB Interface would even do exact job for a lot less, just end up needing a different cable to connect it to your transcoder.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 02:04:51 2017 No.4269259 Is it possible to do the superwide one-size-fits-all resolution trick for CRT monitor using any emulator or do I have to use retroarch? Is it possible to do the superwide one-size-fits-all resolution trick for CRT monitor on a Mac?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 02:17:57 2017 No.4269278 File: 1.51 MB, 2656x1494, 20170903_190828.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4251351 With Aperture set all the way down

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 02:19:28 2017 No.4269281 File: 2.00 MB, 1494x2656, 20170903_191014.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4251351 >>4269278 With Aperture set all the way up

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 02:28:18 2017 No.4269287 >>4253532 Wow that looks really nice, Gameboy Player with the plugins right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 06:16:58 2017 No.4269459 >>4268685 >>4268689 My

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 06:53:59 2017 No.4269486 >>4268904 explain how pls, i would like to know this as well. >>4268780 The Radeon 4000 series is not recommended. Goes up to some R9, mobility and cheap APU's now as well. You should check out the crt_emudriver website.

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 13:16:31 2017 No.4270017
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>>4268775
>rule of thumb is video monitors like PVMs have auto termination
not always.

>>4268771
you want to look for a little pulse symbol next to the ports. This indicates if it auto-terminates or not. The manual is a good indicator that it may or may not necessarily have these.

still, best to just get it running and see if you need it. You'll drop sync occasionally without having those signals terminated or the color will look off/too bright/too dark.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 13:24:33 2017 No.4270037 File: 11 KB, 256x227, 1500609909622.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pretty excited. Recently snagged a Sony BVM-14N2U for $60. Picking it up on Saturday.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 16:23:12 2017 No.4270416 >>4268685 >>4268689 My GC is PAL and my Wii I softmodded it to boot with NTSC firmware..

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 17:59:55 2017 No.4270625 D24E1WU for sale on ebay, $1250 california local pickup. Wish I lived nearby.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 18:49:10 2017 No.4270709 >>4269486 >Radeon 4000 series is not recommended Why not? I have a HD 4830 I was going to use for this purpose.

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 20:58:10 2017 No.4270902

Feel dumb asking this in a CRT thread, but does anyone know of a flatscreen that has HDMI passthrough? Is that something that exists?

basically, i want my OSSC to go to both a TV and a capture card, but I've heard that HDMI splitters could cause longer delays when switching between 240p and 480i menus.

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 21:10:58 2017 No.4270923

So do I need to accept that there is no one size fits all when it comes to consumer crts and geometry?

Wii emulators look fine with no cut off, real SNES looks fine and real nes. But my Psone still cuts off despite adjusting. Ff7 for example in the pause screen and battle has the white edges cut off.

It's just annoying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 21:16:41 2017 No.4270932 >>4265296 kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 21:18:22 2017 No.4270938 >>4270902 BenQ RL2460HT is the only one i can find. Would love something bigger :/

Abwezi Tue Sep 19 21:45:59 2017 No.4270968

>>4270923
Pretty much. This is why CRT Emudriver is really convenient with it's resolution switcher. I just adjust my geometry as best I can for my regular systems (still can't find a solid middle ground between PS2 and Wii even then) but for my PC I can just customize the porch settings there and not have to worry about it

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 22:29:14 2017 No.4271027

>got myself a Sony trinitron KV-29X2E for $50

it's pretty great but It has a small issue with the image. It is slightly arched on the top and
bottom edges. I have the original remote but I can't seem to find a way to enter the service
menu. Can anyone help me out? I've heard that I can alleviate this issue in there...

Also, the remote is filthy beyond cleaning, how can I find a new remote that will work with this TV?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 22:36:26 2017 No.4271042 >>4271027 Literally just get a 10$ universal remote from Walmart.

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 22:46:31 2017 No.4271051

>>4271027
Turn the TV off, then hit Display, 5, VOL+, Power. That should open up the service menu on most Sonys. Navigate with 1 and 4, change settings with 3 and 6. WRITE DOWN THE ORIGINAL SETTINGS BEFORE YOU CHANGE ANYTHING. Once you're satisfied with the changes you've made, hit Mute, Enter to write the changes to memory. You can read values from memory by hitting 0, Enter.

I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND finding the service manual for your particular model. Also be forewarned that the kind of distortion you've described might not be correctable through the service menu and may require adjustments to the yoke.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 23:16:59 2017 No.4271101 File: 166 KB, 517x480, die.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So I finally set up my Wii with an old CRT I had...and the geometry is ever so slightly fucked up. Is there an ez way to adjust that without actually physically opening up the TV?

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 23:20:59 2017 No.4271105

>>4271101
Depends on the issue. If it's pincushion distortion, vertical linearity error, horizontal bow, or something similar, it can likely be corrected in the service menu. Horizontal linearity, vertical bow, convergence error, those kinds of thinks require yoke adjustment typically.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 23:22:18 2017 No.4271108 Speaking of Wii...where's the best place to get one, besides eBay? Been looking for a Wii Mini (or Wii Red) for a bit and haven't had much luck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 23:40:34 2017 No.4271131 >>4271108 I get mine from Cash Converters in the UK. £10 all in for a GC compatible model with all accessories. Both the models you are after are not really "retro" in any sense of the word though.

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 23:49:41 2017 No.4271145

>>4271131
>Both the models you are after are not really "retro" in any sense of the word though
True, just thought I'd ask since it happened to come up. Plus I like the aesthetic of the red Wii(s) and a CRT.

>tfw all my retro consoles, games, and more are in a storage locker nearly 4 000km away
Feels bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:03:47 2017 No.4271169 >>4271108 Goodwill

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:30:04 2017 No.4271192 >>4271042 universal remotes don't allow entering service menu with sony tvs >>4271027 many sony remotes work with other sony tvs, you might miss a setting or two tho

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Wed Sep 20 01:06:26 2017 No.4271230 File: 3.89 MB, 5472x3648, DSC06483s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4267998

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 03:54:02 2017 No.4271402 File: 1.23 MB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4269040 Ahh then can you explain to this dumbass on what I'm doing wrong?

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 08:16:47 2017 No.4271672

>>4270709
No EDID emulation, slow to switch resolutions, a few other minor points as well. The experience is just smoother. EDID emulation is the big one, and only Radeon 5000-series and newer cards have it. It ensures nothing ever goes wrong with Windows detecting your monitor, and you can hot plug an LCD into the second socket of the GPU to use utilities if you ever need to.

>>4270017
Not him, but go look up the phrase rule of thumb. Second point is valid. Third point about dropping sync without termination - i've never seen that happen. Which PVM's have you had this happen on?

>>4270037
>BVM-14N2U
A PVM-14N2U for $60 these days ain't too bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 10:18:49 2017 No.4271821 >>4271672 >PVM' monitors that aren't sony. Panasonic, JVC, Ikegami, Barco, etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 10:40:33 2017 No.4271856 >>4271821 So not PVMs then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 10:57:48 2017 No.4271880 >>4252867 What life like in Ecuador, anon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 12:33:48 2017 No.4272062 >>4271108 Red Wii only has composite, lacking component, D-terminal, SCART, and S-video. It also drops Gamecube compatibility, Wifi, online connectivity, the SD card slot, only has one instead of 2 USB ports. Avoid this normie garbage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 14:01:11 2017 No.4272226 >>4271051 Thank you anon, but what is the display button?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 14:09:18 2017 No.4272235 >>4271672 >No EDID emulation, slow to switch resolutions, a few other minor points as well. Well, fuck. Guess I'm off to eBay/Craigslist to find a 5000/6000 series card.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 14:09:46 2017 No.4272237 File: 3.06 MB, 4320x3240, SAM_0430.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this thing's hard to move

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 14:26:41 2017 No.4272254 File: 3.06 MB, 4320x3240, SAM_0430.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Found this pic from last year when I got it. this thing's hard to move

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 14:29:36 2017 No.4272263 >>4272237 >>4272254 woah, you guys have the same crt and the same sled!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 14:39:09 2017 No.4272274 >>4271051 >>4272226 I got a pdf manual btw

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 15:53:51 2017 No.4272439 >>4272226 It's a button on the remote that says "Display." It usually displays which input is currently selected, the clock, and which closed caption option is being used.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 17:18:21 2017 No.4272650 File: 45 KB, 576x1024, bathsetup.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rate my setup

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 17:38:32 2017 No.4272706 What's the best RCA/composite switcher out there? My TV only has one input (not counting the coax).

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 18:46:35 2017 No.4272847

>>4272706
The GE 33622 is well-made and wired correctly (composite and s-video totally separate, as they should be). I've got a couple daisy-chained together for all my retro consoles and they work well. Much better than the Radio Shack garbage I was using before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 19:46:13 2017 No.4272930 Is it possible to connect a VGA out (laptop) to a consumer CRT?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 19:54:05 2017 No.4272941 >>4272930 If it's a computer CRT, sure.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 19:57:18 2017 No.4272946
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is composite good enough? can one just learn to live with composite?

are there CRTs where composite looks better than on other CRTS?

I ask because i finally managed to get a pioneer laseractive and it of course only has composite out - but I feel satisfied with it. It's my holy grail console so I don't think I could ever settle for a separate mega drive / laser disc player setup now that I've got it even if I could theoretically have higher quality...

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 20:16:12 2017 No.4272982

>>4272946
Laserdisc video is stored as composite, you won't see any advantage there. For the Mega Drive you would be better off with a separate unit with S-video / RGB.

Different TVs do have different comb filters for separating the chroma/luma out of the composite signal, main difference is the tradeoff between better resolution or more dot crawl.

You can also get third party composite to S-video/whatever else boxes that do their own comb filter implementations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 20:16:44 2017 No.4272985 what will you do when there are no working crt's left?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 20:27:58 2017 No.4273013 >>4272946 For MD composite is actually the best thing you can go with as some graphical tricks like the one used to accomplish transparency depend upon it.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 21:00:52 2017 No.4273068

>>4272946
To max out composite follow these steps:

Get a good CRTV from one of the following brands:
Sony, Sharp, Panasonic, Toshiba, JVC, Mitsubishi.
Do not go larger than 27" or the blurriness of composite will show too much. Under 21" is preferable.
Make sure the screen is curved because flats are blurry and defocused colours in their corners.
Make sure you have the original remote.

Buy a degaussing ring and use it on the CRT.

Buy a calibration DVD like Video Essentials or AVIA and follow their instructions to adjust the menu options.
You may wish to reduce the saturation more than the calibration DVD suggests to see more of the luma detail that is veiled by the lower resolution chroma signal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 21:02:02 2017 No.4273071 >>4272982 >main difference is the tradeoff between better resolution or more dot crawl. Could you please explain more about this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 21:03:59 2017 No.4273076 I want to do a full calibration on my Trinitron. Should I start with the service menu first and then open the back and handle the yoke after? Or should I do the work in the back before I go into the service menu?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 21:07:38 2017 No.4273083 >>4273076 Always always ALWAYS service menu first. It's there for a reason, and you really ought to avoid opening the chassis unless you've got no other choice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 21:10:05 2017 No.4273087 >>4272985 That will take a very long time. There are millions of CRTs still out there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 21:19:34 2017 No.4273106 >>4273068 Appreciate this. I have a 25 inch curved Samsung that doesnt seem to look too bad. I'll look into a degaussing ring and a calibration DVD though

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 21:43:31 2017 No.4273142 File: 47 KB, 360x480, IMG_1080.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Someone in my area is selling this Sony trinitron for 20 bucks with the stand. Too bad I' like LCD better,

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 21:53:04 2017 No.4273158 >>4273142 The only LCDs acceptable for retro gaming are those manufactured by Audeze.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 22:10:51 2017 No.4273195 Any Trinitron experts on here? There are two Trinitrons on my Craigslist for the same price and they both have original remote. Sony KV-27S42 and Sony KV-27V10. Which is better?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 22:14:09 2017 No.4273203 If I buy $30 passive switchboxes from Radioshack will they degrade my PQ (picture quality for those not in the know)? I plan to daisy chain them to add even more consoles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 22:41:21 2017 No.4273237 >>4273203 That wont degrade the image quality so much as fucking annihilate it. Same rule as speakers: if the unit isn't powered, it's garbage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 22:49:45 2017 No.4273251 I'm seeing that RGB SCART is the best way to get the most visually out of a lot of the older consoles. I've got a kv32s15, so no SCART port. What do, do I need some sort of converter?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 22:52:38 2017 No.4273257 >>4273251 SCART is a meme. RGB BNC is vastly superior. Even RGB RCA is better.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 22:53:44 2017 No.4273259
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>>4273071
NTSC separates chroma from luma in frequency domain, in the range of ~2-3MHz there's chroma and luma information mixed together, if the filter's set to decode more of these as luma you get sharper edges, but more artifacts like pic related

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 22:54:52 2017 No.4273261 >>4273257 RGB RCA is composite, while RGB BNC is component, right? What about S-video? I don't know what my KS32S15 even supports component?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 22:56:29 2017 No.4273268 >>4273261 you are being memed congrats

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 22:59:14 2017 No.4273275 >>4273261 >RGB RCA is composite, while RGB BNC is component, right? RGB RCA is RGB. >I don't know what my KS32S15 even supports component? Look behind your tv and see whether it has component input.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 23:03:45 2017 No.4273282 File: 652 KB, 714x457, tv.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4273275 This is what it has. Guessing that means S-video is my best option?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 23:07:32 2017 No.4273289 >>4273282 Yep. It may be possible to modify internally to add RGB.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 23:07:45 2017 No.4273290 >>4273237 What are you talking about? Audiophiles always reccomend to use passive speakers and amp over powered speakers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 23:09:32 2017 No.4273293 >>4258991 It's funny to think I got rid of mine many years ago. It was in perfect condition (and calibrated) but I was too busy salivating over a Panasonic Plasma. I wasn't impressed with it then. Really makes you think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 23:10:05 2017 No.4273295 i got a sony trinitron wega KV-30HS420 the other day off craigslist for free is it a good tv? i know trinitrons are regarded highly but idk what models are considered the "good" ones.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 23:10:39 2017 No.4273296

>>4273282
>>4273261
>>4273251
Svideo is the least headache and looks nice. You can fuck around with RGB transcoders for component but it's expensive and time consuming to find a good one.
>>4273293
Late model 4:3 CRT. Lots of stuff was better at the time since no one was looking for such a niche use CRT.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 23:14:37 2017 No.4273308 File: 48 KB, 495x601, 1457681399110.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4273290 >Audiophiles

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 23:17:51 2017 No.4273317 >>4272930 If it has a Radeon card, or a Quadro or probably a Firepro, and a VGA port, then you can get RGBHV out if it at 15kHz.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 23:18:01 2017 No.4273318

>>4273259
So you meant to say:
"main difference is the tradeoff between better resolution or LESS dot crawl."

What is the difference between notch filter, 3d filter, and digital filter and what time range (years of manufacture) of CRTVs do they appear in?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 23:18:54 2017 No.4273319 >>4272985 I've hoarded enough replacements for my arcade cabs to last out my lifetime. Why, what are you going to do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 00:46:44 2017 No.4273431 Is it worth it to get a professional grade Beta recording deck? I know the picture quality is only ever so slightly better than regular VHS but is it enough to make the leap to beta? Being able to edit stuff would be cool as well I guess.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 00:47:58 2017 No.4273434 >>4273431 >Is it worth it to get a professional grade Beta recording deck? As a novelty? Sure why not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 01:20:47 2017 No.4273467 >>4273434 This is all my fucking life is anymore. Also the deck looks similar to what Naomi watts uses in the ring

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 01:24:14 2017 No.4273475 >>4273467 https://youtu.be/igEO_oyUs6U What in the world is this. It's so sexy. Also I want a printer like that

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 01:32:47 2017 No.4273485 >>4273431 Also is the best way to record 480i and possibly 480p

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 01:34:46 2017 No.4273487 File: 214 KB, 480x460, 1484577357113.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4273485 >Also is the best way to record 480i and possibly 480p >BETA

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 01:38:04 2017 No.4273493 >>4273487 Sorry >>4273485 Is this***

Kya !kDashing02 Thu Sep 21 01:43:24 2017 No.4273506

>>4273431
>I know the picture quality is only ever so slightly better than regular VHS
You're really only going to see an increase if it's recorded at Beta 1. Beta 2 is going to be essentially the same quality as VHS SP.

Would still be neat either way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 01:50:26 2017 No.4273515 >>4273506 How does one record in beta 1? It's a beta sp deck so it should record at a higher resolution than VHS no matter what. Although I don't know what VHS sp records at

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Thu Sep 21 01:57:58 2017 No.4273523 >>4273515 brainfart, disregard

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 08:42:55 2017 No.4273864 >>4272985 You know you can repair them, right? Besides, it's going to take a while. My CRT is a 2003 model, and there are tons of those (and later) around. VHS is going to die before CRTs.

Kya !kDashing02 Thu Sep 21 08:50:12 2017 No.4273879

>>4273106
An external degaussing coil is entirely unnecessary unless the set you're using it on actually has a purity issue.

>>4273295
If you're interested in 480p+ consoles, it's nice, but not great for anything /vr/. It's an HDCRT, so you're going to get a delay no matter what.

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 09:16:52 2017 No.4273924
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Picked up this bad boy over the weekend for free from Kijiji. Fucker weighs a tonne. It's a 32" Sanyo from December '03. Works perfectly with the antenna and VCR, but there's some audio hiss when using the Roku. Hoping it's just an issue with the box itself and not the actual composite jack, since it only has the one.

Now I just need to get an RCA/S-Video switch, and dig the consoles out of storage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 09:24:22 2017 No.4273929 >>4273318 http://www.cockam.com/vidcomb.htm

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 11:18:16 2017 No.4274084 >>4273924 Oh look, it's faggot mcgee.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 13:29:17 2017 No.4274313 >>4274084 You have to be at least 18 to post here, Summer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 14:29:25 2017 No.4274403 >>4273308 What anon clearly meant was >people who like sound Go take your boogeyman elsewhere

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 14:31:11 2017 No.4274408 >>4273317 >Quadro Absolutely this My Thinkpad W510 does so with no hassle involved. It's fucking magical

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 14:39:36 2017 No.4274420 >>4274084 >faggot mcgee. Gramps?

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 15:19:33 2017 No.4274523
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>finally found a trinitron nearby
>works perfectly, this is gonna be great
>take it home in my car and plug it in
>display is fucked and has an upwards bow
>after three days find the manual for the crt and how to enter service menu
>menu only has horizontal pincushion adjustment
>too much of a pussy to open it up and mess arround
>cry myself to sleep

what should I do with it? is it worth seeking out someone that may be able to fix it? I live in rural Sweden so it's not going to be easy. Wish me luck with my next crt, I am picking it up next weekend. It's a 28" Nokia 7155.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 15:21:03 2017 No.4274527 File: 91 KB, 1024x768, 251489281_17cdc395-51a9-481d-9fde-e062cd4c78dd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4274523 The Nokia crt

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 15:22:18 2017 No.4274531 >>4274523 it was a Sony trinitron KV-29X2E

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 15:24:14 2017 No.4274534 File: 35 KB, 412x703, MUaRxAU.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4274523 That's not pincushion distortion though, Sven

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 15:32:17 2017 No.4274552 I don't know what it is, I was hoping that "V PIN" would at least alleviate the distortion ;_;

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 15:56:10 2017 No.4274615 >>4274552 meant for >>4274534

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 16:04:08 2017 No.4274636 File: 25 KB, 736x743, 1490221640867.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4274615 Thanks captain Anders Obvious

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 16:27:58 2017 No.4274705
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>>4259407 here.
Just got a Philips Magnavox 27 incher for the low price of nothing at all today. Pic semi related; pulled it off google, but it's the exact model.
Had to go to work right after, so I didn't have much time to test her out. How'd I do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 16:47:35 2017 No.4274749 File: 1.22 MB, 2688x1520, IMAG0326.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4274705 It's a big black box with a glass screen in it. We're going to need at least a model number to tell you anything more about it than you already know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 16:49:57 2017 No.4274751 >>4274705 >How'd I do? No one knows until you test it out. I don't know if Phillips CRTVs are good or not. Someone should post a tier list of all CRTV brands.

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 16:52:23 2017 No.4274758
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Can someone explain how these work? I bought this vga to composite cable thinking it would be simple to hook it up to a tv with male composite cables but when i do all i hear is a popping noise when i change the channel to input. What gives?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 16:58:16 2017 No.4274769 >>4274758 It's only supported if the devices outputs composite out a vga.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 16:59:54 2017 No.4274774 >>4274758 Wat Is this thing supposed to be active?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 16:59:56 2017 No.4274775 >>4274749 Sadly I can't find anybody who's selling one of my make that included a serial number. >>4274751 Pastebin said Philips are viable options, but not much else. I'd like a tier list, too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:04:47 2017 No.4274791 >>4274751 On that note what are some red flags I should be looking for? I'm gonna use an NES, which is what I got it for.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:08:21 2017 No.4274801 File: 163 KB, 460x578, goslingcoke012013_01-full.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4274769 thanks ryan gosling

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:10:03 2017 No.4274803 >>4274801 Ok?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:10:22 2017 No.4274805 >>4274803 to prevent any electrical infetterence

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:12:24 2017 No.4274809 >>4274775 If you've already committed to getting it why not report back once you've got it in your hands and can supply more info? It's probably fine btw, assuming good working condition of course. Either way it's free so who cares.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:13:33 2017 No.4274814 >>4274805 Nice meme summer

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:16:05 2017 No.4274816

>>4274809
Honestly I was just hoping for the off chance of running into somebody here who had one that was similar enough, along with being bored on a slow board.
Too, I hadn't seen many Philips on these threads, and I was checking if there was a legit reason for that, like whether or not they're famous for being shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:19:30 2017 No.4274826 >>4274805 Ok?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:34:26 2017 No.4274872 Some please make a tier list for VGA PC monitors. I heard that Lacie Electron Blues are the best.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:34:54 2017 No.4274873 File: 15 KB, 355x355, 41nPogUtR7L._SY355_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i found the problem, the reason why it isn't working is because it isn't connect to this thing. How come it doesn't work with just vga to composite?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:37:31 2017 No.4274880 >>4274872 Consumer PC CRTs it's just Sony and Viewsonic. Not really worth messing with other brands when you're talking about top of the line models.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:43:55 2017 No.4274894 >>4274880 mitsubishi are a thing tho

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:47:53 2017 No.4274908

>>4274880
When you can pick up an EB IV for £10 you'd be a fool to stick to just Sony and Viewsonic, especially with the epidemic G2 drift issue on FD Trinitrons.

Mitsubishi
Iiyama
Eizo
Barco (if you can find one)
Dell (P models are epic but subject to the same problems as Sonys of that period, along with IBM Ps, SGI and Sun).

Often you find Pro models cheapest of all, being disposed of by businesses rather than boomers who know what they got.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 18:08:23 2017 No.4274956 >>4274873 The big boys are talking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 18:10:18 2017 No.4274961 >>4274894 They are a thing. I'm talking about high end consumer sets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 18:33:19 2017 No.4275018 >>4274956 i wanna get good tv too why ya gotta be passive aggressive i just want to relive the days of browsing online and playing pc games on a crt monitor

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 18:40:22 2017 No.4275036 >>4274908 you would also be a fool to pass on sony and clones when the G2 drift can be fixed with a $1.5 cable

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 18:43:24 2017 No.4275047 >>4274908 >Often you find Pro models cheapest of all, being disposed of by businesses rather than boomers who know what they got. They have an outdated monitor that they would probably have to pay to get thrown away properly. >£ Oh I'm sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 18:45:00 2017 No.4275049 >>4274961 he was talking about VGA Mitsu diamondtrons are a thing. A fucking beautiful thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 18:46:53 2017 No.4275054 >>4275049 A step below the high end Sonys and Viewsonics. Mitsubishi certainly wasn't on my dream list in the 90s and early 2000s.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 18:47:07 2017 No.4275056 >>4274523 god I fucking love that game

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 18:54:04 2017 No.4275074 File: 75 KB, 708x722, JEEZUS with subtitle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4275054 >mitsu >below sony >below viewsonic

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:04:25 2017 No.4275103 >>4275074 They didn't use Mitsubishi monitors when they made toy story. All high end Sonys and Hitachi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:12:15 2017 No.4275126 >>4275103 >what are sponsorship contracts >what is calibration

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:14:29 2017 No.4275131 >>4275126 You sure do like greentext, young one. And I don't think SGI needed to sponsor anyone. They were the only choice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:23:52 2017 No.4275145 >>4275018 Hush now little girl

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:28:29 2017 No.4275148 >>4275131 >he doesn't greentext the other way around can still be true, sponsoring/partenering with SGI.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:31:20 2017 No.4275152 >>4275036 >the G2 drift can be fixed with a $1.5 cable linku, onegai?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:31:30 2017 No.4275153 >>4275148 You're not supporting your argument well.

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:40:48 2017 No.4275173
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>>4275152
ebay usb serial cable
paid mine like 1.75€ delivered.
if you don't remove the shielding on the monitor the pins are quite the pain to insert, so I took the 4 pin housing of a PC speaker and relocated the female pins. Much easier that way.
>>4275153
because you sure are with your "young one" argument (ツ)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:42:11 2017 No.4275180 >>4275173 I'm not the one throwing greentext everywhere and saying Mitsubishi was better than Sony or Viewsonic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:46:04 2017 No.4275194 >>4275180 between all 3 brands in 4/3 format flat glass, it's mitsubishi all the way. FW900 has the widescreen factor, and outside the carmack monitor it's pretty much the only one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:57:15 2017 No.4275227 >>4275194 Wan't the one Carmack used an FW900?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:58:29 2017 No.4275229 >>4275194 >between all 3 brands in 4/3 format flat glass, it's mitsubishi all the way. I'll stick to what the professionals used. Sony and Viewsonic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:58:33 2017 No.4275231 File: 60 KB, 984x672, Integraph InterView 28hd96_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4275227 (ツ)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 20:00:30 2017 No.4275236 >>4275229 >I'll fall for sponsorship memes of course you do

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 20:01:17 2017 No.4275240 >>4275236 >meme You sure do love gen z speak for someone that claims not to be underage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 20:03:56 2017 No.4275245 >>4275240 it's not like meme isn't common language by now. Or are you currently learning victorian.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 20:13:10 2017 No.4275265 File: 254 KB, 1440x1080, 1475409502612.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4275245 >it's not like meme isn't common language by now. No kid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 20:13:28 2017 No.4275267 Anyone have any thoughts on the Toshiba MW27H62 is this a good model I am a CRT noob

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 20:15:47 2017 No.4275272 >>4275265 meme meme meme >meme

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 20:17:12 2017 No.4275274 >>4275272 Solid argument. Mitsubishi fans in a nutshell.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 20:18:09 2017 No.4275280 >>4275274 >meme meme

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 22:33:47 2017 No.4275569 File: 1.89 MB, 3771x2121, 2017-09-21 21.13.41.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] CRT monitors are the best

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 22:47:40 2017 No.4275592 File: 3.92 MB, 5312x2988, 20170921_214455.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4275569 Also testing the camera, it's alright I guess (not the same monitor, this is a Toshiba consumer CRT)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 22:57:25 2017 No.4275604 I'm not sure if this goes here as I'm new to /vr/, but what's the best video format for playing games?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 23:00:17 2017 No.4275609 >>4275604 There is no best standard for video with retro games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 23:03:35 2017 No.4275610 >>4275604 RGB BNC

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 23:05:49 2017 No.4275617 >>4272650 Nigger/10

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 23:28:49 2017 No.4275648

>>4275036
Oh I know and have actually WinDAS'd my own personal IBM P260 for this very reason.

It's hardly one for the average poster here to attempt though, setting up COM ports and the like. Or perhaps I'm giving too little credit?

>>4275047
Same goes for the US, though the vast majority ends up in the hands of greedy resellers. Same situation, different result (crazy prices).

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 23:33:29 2017 No.4275657 >>4275648 it's super easy to correct only G2 with the premade windas package. setting it up for a live fine-tuning is a bit more of a hassle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 23:38:32 2017 No.4275665 >>4275657 Fair enough. I did it a good few years ago. Stands to reason that things have moved on since then.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 00:13:00 2017 No.4275729

>>4274758
This is a pass through adapter cable intended for devices that have composite passing through a db 15 cable- so not your computer if that's your VGA input.

What you need is a VGA to Composite transcoder, a box, not just a cable. There's no actual adapting going on in that cable, it's just passing a signal through, and VGA outputs RGBHV, not composite. This is along the lines of something you'll need
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Resolution-Composite-S-Video-Converter/dp/B001NXDQEK
This one is on the pricier side but I'm sure it works very well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 02:23:11 2017 No.4275887 >>4275604 SCART

Kya !kDashing02 Fri Sep 22 03:07:50 2017 No.4275930

>>4274751
>>4274775
>Someone should post a tier list of all CRTV brands.
>I'd like a tier list, too.

Really not a fan of tier lists because they tend to get taken as "Anything outside of top tier is complete trash and worthless" and that is just stupid, and especially in a situation like this where condition comes so much into play, it implies that every CRT made by a "top tier" manufacturer is going to equal and the inverse for low end.

Just a copy and paste from a list I put together some months back.
To actually rate each brand as high or low quality would be silly, since (ignoring condition and the like of individual sets) you're going to find acceptable stuff from just most makers, and even the "best" brands are going to have bad eggs here or there.

If you wanted to sort them from chances of getting quality versus QUALITY, this would probably be a good bit to go by.
Brands within tiers are in no order.

Safe Bet Tier:
Sony
Mitsubishi
NEC
JVC/Panasonic(Matsushita)

Decent Tier:
Sharp
Samsung
Sanyo
Toshiba

Middling Tier:
Philips
LG/Goldstar
RCA
Hitachi

Mixed Bag Tier:
Sylvania
GE
Symphonic
Sears

loliduno:
Apex
Prima
Magnasonic
etc

As said above, I'm not including Ikegami because they don't make consumer sets, and a list like this applying to pro gear would just be stupid and nonsensical. I would like to add that both Ikegami and Barco have used Hitachi tubes in their respective broadcast and reference monitors, so they shouldn't be counted out.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 03:21:36 2017 No.4275945
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>>4274816
Still going to need a model number, I have a philips magnavox 27ms3404 and it's my main display. Here is a compressed picture via composite, the set has s video and component but my snes s video cable is absolute shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 03:49:17 2017 No.4275978 >>4275267 Looks pretty bad to be honest, what are you planning to use it for? Will you use the vcr/DVD or is it just dead weight for you? The set has a flat screen with composite only. Trying to find something with s-video inputs should be easy enough.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 04:35:32 2017 No.4276014 >>4274527 Report back on how those Nokia TVs look like. There's a few of those near where I live.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 07:44:53 2017 No.4276165 >>4275930 Even assuming you left out pro brands, Philips are not top tier? They made some of the best tubes known to man. And where is B&O. Shame on you, Kya!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 08:10:30 2017 No.4276193 Even with S-video, n64's looking pretty muddy on my KV32S15. Is it the TV, you think, or am I expecting too much from S-video?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 08:15:43 2017 No.4276197 >>4276165 Left out Loewe, Grundig and a bunch of other quality euro brands too. Still, it doesn't really matter in the long run. People will tend to shy away from all things non-Sony in any case.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:55:03 2017 No.4276874 >>4276193 N64's muddy anyways, it applies anti-aliasing in almost every game. There's a partial fix available on a per-game basis using a Gameshark, but it only removes one stage of the anti-aliasing process.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:20:17 2017 No.4276948

>>4276874
It isn't the anti-aliasing that makes it blurry but the dither filtering. What the Gameshark codes do is turn off every "filter" that the VI unit in the GPU applies (the second stage of AA is considered a filter but it isn't one strictly speaking). So basically when you use a Gameshark code, not only do you turn off the thing that makes shit blurry but a whole bunch of useful filters as well PLUS shitloads of dither cause you turned off the fucking dither filter.

It's literally better to do the HDMI / RGB mod. The other half of blurryness from N64 comes from the scaling applied by the VI unit. This isn't something that the Gameshark code touches. The RGB / HDMI mod can reverse the scaling process which makes for a shaper image AND there are no downsides to it.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 14:24:23 2017 No.4277117

>>4273879
>An external degaussing coil is entirely unnecessary unless the set you're using it on actually has a purity issue.

Maybe CRT PC monitors and PVMs are better built and don't have purity issues but every CRTV I ever owned has it and the built-in degausser doesn't help much.
Display a solid field of colour and look at the corners. You will see dark splotches.
A degaussing coil is cheaper than the RGB SCART>component transcoder mess and easier to do than service menu and physical yoke/ring adjustment.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:13:16 2017 No.4277184 >>4276948 Is it true that transparent colored N64s, except the blue one, are less blurry (but more pixelated)?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:31:57 2017 No.4277421 File: 2.39 MB, 3024x3024, IMG_20170922_142601~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:39:43 2017 No.4277430 >>4277184 Err yes, it's a similar situation to the SNES 1CHIP. Nintendo tried to save money by omitting the high-pass/low-pass filters on the video output. It's shaper but the video is also noiser.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:23:19 2017 No.4277496

>>4277430
>It's shaper but the video is also noiser.

Have you tried both types?
I only have the regular black N64.
Do you think it is worth the tradeoff to get a coloured translucent (non blue) N64?
Coloured N64s go for double price at retro shops in my area because they are "rare" or "collectible" not because normies know anything about video output.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 19:49:16 2017 No.4277737 File: 1.48 MB, 2885x2441, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] yume Nikki on crt

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 20:31:07 2017 No.4277823 >>4277737 Cute

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 21:46:49 2017 No.4277970
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I just purchased a Sony KV-1311CR. It doesn't have a normal analog RGB Scart input like similar sony models, but it has this weird 34 pin connector. Apparently a floppy disk ribbon cable fits perfectly in the slot. I found pic related while searching around. The only alternative I can see is to build a connector myself that converts the 34 pin plug to female Scart so that i can buy one of the console to scart cables that are wideley available for each of my consoles that output rgb. What do you guys think? Any better ideas?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 21:48:28 2017 No.4277971 File: 432 KB, 592x392, Screenshot_1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4277970 this is the input i am referring to

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 21:54:14 2017 No.4277980

>>4277970
Yeah, you'll have to build the adapter thing. This question comes up pretty much every time someone finds one of these monitors with the 34 pin RGB connector, so you shouldn't have that much of an issue finding documentation for it. Sony made an adapter box in the before times, but good luck finding it.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:01:59 2017 No.4277995

>>4273068
>Do not go larger than 27" or the blurriness of composite will show too much. Under 21" is preferable.

This so much, I have a 14" sony trinitron that lacks s-video and N64 games still look decent on composite even though its a tad bit washed out, if you guys to use composite make sure its on a smaller screen size.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 23:41:00 2017 No.4278147 >>4278008 >semi-abstract paranoia Glad we could give you an avenue, bru.

Kya !kDashing02 Sat Sep 23 00:28:32 2017 No.4278214

>>4276165
I want to say someone called me on that the last time as well; I'm in the US and have no experience with any of the EU brands, and you don't get enough talk on it here for me to put together a proper picture of them, so I opted to leave those out instead of throw them in where ever. Think I may have also asked for input from EU bros at the time and got nothing so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

Probably wouldn't make you too much happier that I have Loewe/Grundig grouped with Daewoo and Orion on a new version of the survey in the OP. I'd more than welcome anyone who wants to give their input on such a thing, either here or via the Discord.

I would throw B&O in with Philips, but that wouldn't be terribly fair in either direction as it may give some people a false impression of Philips, or leave some people complaining about Philips's later stuff release in partnership with LG.

>>4277117
Of the TVs I've owned/used, the only real time I've ended up with legitimate purity issues was when I was a dumb kid and purposefully put a magnet near the TV for the hell of it.

I still wouldn't go recommending someone grab one unless they know they need it, or if they're having a large number of tubes passing through their hands.

>>4278008
>threw my back out
But that was from a table, not a TV.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:53:58 2017 No.4278240 File: 1.61 MB, 2560x1440, IMG_20170922_233546.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4275945 It's a 25B700-7562. Picture doesn't seem to be an issue but I don't exactly have a guide for NES color accuracy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 01:02:19 2017 No.4278249 >>4277496 No probably not unless you like the look. You'd still be paying extra for what is essentially a cost reduced model. If you don't like blur the RGB or HDMI mod is the way to go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 01:19:34 2017 No.4278279 >>4276165 >>4278214 Phillips tubes are not great for the simple reason they do not use rings for convergence / purity, instead they use one-fits-all permagnet. Their flat glass also have quite a lot of corner blur, because of the permagnet system.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 01:39:15 2017 No.4278305 File: 1.02 MB, 2094x1510, 1506144445022.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] and wadanohara

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 01:51:52 2017 No.4278329 25" Samsung CRT with component inputs... Yea or nay?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 02:13:12 2017 No.4278349 >>4278240 There’s one and only one gude for NES color. Calibrate to NTSC standards and you’re set.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 02:27:42 2017 No.4278365 >>4278349 Nice. Will do.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:35:01 2017 No.4278436
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Hey guys. So I bought a Sony Trinitron PVM-8041Q. Is a "No Sync" screen supposed to appear when nothing is plugged in? The only thing that seems to show is when I press under scan, it shows a horizontal line. I don't know if the monitor is shot or not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:39:36 2017 No.4278439 >>4278436 >Is a "No Sync" screen supposed to appear when nothing is plugged in? What would you expect instead? > I don't know if the monitor is shot or not. Feed it a composite signal to test.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:49:01 2017 No.4278447 >>4278439 I thought it would be a blue or red color with the words no sync in white on it. Also, I'm going to get BNC plugs tomorrow.

>>	Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO Sat Sep 23 03:54:29 2017 No.4278452 >>4272062 The other red Wii (the Mario Anniversary one which stands vertically) is very similar to the launch model Wii, but of course, the color is different.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 04:04:01 2017 No.4278469

Asking this here since I don't think it warrants a new thread and is CRT-related:

What is the best way to emulate GB/GBC games on a CRT? The original has a rather awkward resolution of 160x144px.

240p with 1x fixed pixel ratio will result in a tiny picture (basically like the Super GB), scaling it will result in inconsistent pixel ratios and shimmering, applying a filter makes everything blurry.

The best way I've found so far is 480i with 3x fixed pixel ratio, but that results in distracting flickering on every third line, if there's a difference in colour to the next line. Sitting a bit farther away helps a bit.

Currently using a softmodded Wii.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 04:53:51 2017 No.4278514 >>4278469 IMO the best option is 480p if possible, if not, SGB/GBI style border in 240p.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 05:24:14 2017 No.4278528 http://www.ebay.ca/itm/OEM-IBM-computer-monitor-model-6652-U3N-CRT-Monitor-/272798506732?hash=item3f840edeec:g:-9kAAOSwv2FZi22z Can somebody ELABORATE the price on this 21" MONITOR **?

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 05:33:17 2017 No.4278537

>>4278514
My monitor sadly doesn't support 480p and is already pretty small (10"), so non-scaled 240p is not an option for me as the picture becomes too tiny.

I just tried around a bit more and discovered that turning down contrast a little greatly reduces the perceived 480i-flicker, combined with sitting back a little it becomes unnoticeable.

This also results in a less bright, somewhat more authentic picture for GB/GBC games. Guess that'll do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 05:52:36 2017 No.4278551 >>4278537 If your display can do PAL or has a decent range of vertical adjust 2x scale 288p would also be an option, although loses you framerate sync.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 06:12:23 2017 No.4278563

>>4278551
My display supports PAL, however VBA-GX doesn't output 288p, only 576i. I tried that with "stretch to fit" (+show underscan) and it results in a correctly 4x scaled picture with little flicker, however it messes up the emulation speed and sound. Th-thanks, PAL.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 08:33:39 2017 No.4278723 >>4278436 >>4278439 No, there's no OSD on that set. So no menu, and nothing injecting a blue screen. So without sync you get either nothing, or garbled colour if you're inputting colours without sync or the ext-sync switch is in the wrong position..

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:35:41 2017 No.4279073

http://www.ebay.it/itm/RGB-SCART-Cable-TV-AV-Lead-for-Playstation-PS1-PS2-PS3-Slimline-Game-Consoles-UK-/332279667827?hash=item4d5d695c73:g:6jwAAOSwXJNZb3dM

Is this the right cable?
I always played with the standard RCA one+scart that comes with the console.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:46:20 2017 No.4279093 >>4278249 Interesting. Do you know of any other consoles where the video quality (for the same plug type) is different depending on the hardware revision? So far I know about SNES, N64, Atari 2600, and Genesis having this phenomenon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 14:58:44 2017 No.4279173 >>4279073 Cable looks pretty thin to me and there's no mention of what kind of Sync it uses. For PlayStation you would want a Sync on Luma signal unless you want to fuck around with Syncstrippers

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 15:06:21 2017 No.4279181 >>4279173 http://www.ebay.it/itm/RGB-Scart-cable-for-PAL-SNES-Super-Nintendo-consoles-SYNC-from-LUMA-/172861790257?hash=item283f5d9831:g:hyYAAOxygPtSvvL0 The only one I found with luma sync is this one but I don't think it works for playstation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 15:10:54 2017 No.4279189 >>4279173 >>4279181 Also please point me to one that you know of with the right setting that is purchasable in Europe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 15:18:13 2017 No.4279202 >>4279189 https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 15:41:47 2017 No.4279250 >>4279202 Is there a similar website for ntsc cables?

Kya !kDashing02 Sat Sep 23 19:23:01 2017 No.4279606

>>4279250
They sell cables for both PAL and NTSC configurations, and ship to the US no problem.

If you're looking for something actually US based: https://retro-access.com/

It's run by the same person as the ebay store retro_console_accessories, just without added ebay fees and more customization options.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 19:57:00 2017 No.4279670

>>4263259
Ebay seller called gamesnow is supposed to have pretty good svid cables. Waiting for mine to arrive. he advertises them as grounded and sheilded. Nicely priced too. Japan import nintendo cables are 30-40 usd but gamesnow sell his for 25 bucks shipped.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:18:57 2017 No.4279709
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>>4267012
Hahaha i bet you bought it from Technologysurplusdepo, right? I got the same model from them for the same price. Super nice folks there. How'd you weather the storm??

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:25:19 2017 No.4279725 >>4268771 Oh and forgot to add you dont need the 75 ohm terminators

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:53:44 2017 No.4279762

>>4273237
>unpowered/passive/mechanical video switchers killing quality

Wat? Its pretty much just like plugging it directly into the display. Just have to make sure you keep your cables reasonably short. Powered switchers are nice if you need to send a signal aways out but cheap ones can cause lag and video quality issues since they act like a repeater. A cheap passive switcher wont fuck with the signal since its not doing any sort of processing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:09:53 2017 No.4279891 >>4265738 I just ordered the logo from that link for the KV-1311CR and it is absolutely not the right size.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:48:12 2017 No.4280087 File: 3.74 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_20170922_163827.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:25:13 2017 No.4280183 >>4278439 >>4278723 Got the BNC plugs, works just fine. Thanks again!

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:51:46 2017 No.4280424 >Open video about classic Japanese computer >it's set up with an LCD monitor >close tab

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 06:47:37 2017 No.4280670 >>4278528 >Can somebody ELABORATE the price on this 21" MONITOR **? Seller is a complete cracker, that's what. He paid a lot for it back int he day, or he heard someone else did, and decided it must still be worth a shitload.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 07:19:46 2017 No.4280693 >>4280670 >http://www.ebay.ca/itm/OEM-IBM-computer-monitor-model-6652-U3N-CRT-Monitor-/272798506732?hash=item3f840edeec:g:-9kAAOSwv2FZi22z what would be a reasonable price then, ? like a 100 I have a identical one except its white and very low hours

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 07:29:10 2017 No.4280705 File: 83 KB, 321x311, Screen Shot 2017-09-24 at 6.28.44 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lol

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 07:34:56 2017 No.4280707

Hi I have a Sony BVM 20F1M and It works great but it won't let me go into overscan mode when I click "SCREEN MODE" to change it to overscan mode the screen just turns off I don't know why it dose this my other BVMs don't turn off when I try and change the settings do you know how I can fix this? I have the same issue when I change other settings in the menu it just turns off when I press enter on them do you know I can turn the protection off so I can change the settings on my Sony BVM?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 07:57:05 2017 No.4280724 >>4280705 I will price my BVM at exactly 900$ and if anyone is mad about it, go work instead of being mad to able make the difference for buying my monitor

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 07:57:44 2017 No.4280727 >>4280693 >130kHz H-scan rate Hmmm, if it's in excellent nick, i might go as high as a hundred. >>4280705 A BVM 20F1E sold for almost that in A$ recently.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 07:59:19 2017 No.4280728 >>4280724 Enjoy being a reseller.

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