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Just ordered a dreamcast on ebay, right on its birthday too. What game should I burn for it first?

>> No.4249607

a new laser

>> No.4249625


>> No.4249627

Test Drive Le Mans

>> No.4249636

No better way to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY to a Dreamcast than to destroy its laser with shite CD-Rs.

>> No.4249647

there's already ODEs for the console, what does it matter?

>> No.4249664

>crazy taxi
>house of the dead 2
>soul calibur
>power stone
>jet grind radio
>rippin riders
>tokyo xtreme racer

those are some good ones.

>> No.4249673

I hope you know how fucking loud the fan and disc reading is on a DC dude.

Honestly, emulating is such a better experience.

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>> No.4249784

Mvc2 and a mas stick.

>> No.4249791

>destroy its laser with shite CD-Rs.
I thought that was a myth

>> No.4249853

it is. babies who whine about laser deterioration can't bring evidence besides overly shitty forumposts of 10-year old idiots who blame something else for what ever it is that doesn't work.

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>Blue Stinger on the list
>PSO is not

>> No.4249873

I hope it's a revision 0 or 1 console or you won't be burning anything

>> No.4249876

How could the console revision possibly prevent his burner from working?
Wireless interference?

>> No.4249882
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Oh he will be able to burn okay, just not read the discs in his console. I evidently didn't asperger-proof my post.

Revision 2 removed MIL-CD support which is what allows burned CDI copies to work.

>> No.4250417

>burning CD's
You may as well have bought a modded Dreamcast with a microSD slot inside.

>> No.4250430

Nice FUD, faggots

>> No.4250435

Rev 2 was such a short manufacturing run that I'd be shocked if OP actually received one.

>> No.4250494

>playing PSO nowadays

>> No.4250520

Power Stone 2. Easy to jump into and lots of fun.

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>playing PSO DC in 2017
>hating Blue Stinger

>> No.4250535

I've had the same Dreamcast since 2002 and have constantly played burned games on it for the past 15 years. inb4 LARP FAG or CD-R SHILL

>> No.4250558

You absolutely need to get this game.


>> No.4250640

Sword of the Berserk: Gut's Rage
Elemental Gimmick Gear
Jojo's bizarre adventure
Space channel 5
Samba de Amigo

>> No.4250830

Space channel 5 is absolute trash, I can't think of a rhythm game that is worse.

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>implying PSO DC single-player isn't comfy as fuck

>> No.4251389

Only cheapskates emulate.

>the fan is loud
It isn't. But it seems you're the type of faggot who complains the TV is too loud when the volume level is at 1.

>> No.4253780

You made sure it was burn compatible, right?

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Since this is the only DC thread on /vr/, I wanna know if this package I ordered off ebay is good value or not.
>1 PAL Dreamcast (burn-compatible)
>1 Power Lead/Adapter/Cable
>2 first-party controllers
>2 VMUs
>1 Madcatz memory stick
>Virtua Tennis
>£60, free shipping

>> No.4254234

very good value

>> No.4254239

good to know

>> No.4254296

I've done better recently (4 controllers, 8 games for £50) but overall good effort.

>> No.4254303

Well I plan on burning all the games I want (apart from a few that don't quite fit the CD-R size like Shenmue) and I wasn't sure if I was ever gonna need more than 2 controllers.

>> No.4254306

The very first were heavier on the motor than an original GD-Rom, and CD-RWs killed the laser (but not CD-Rs).

The data is written backward on a Dreamcast disc (center to rim VS rim to center on a regular CD - or the opposite, I never remember...). As a consequence the 1st CD-Rs had the data in the wrong place and forced the CD motor to work more. It was fixed by adding a dummy file to push the data to the right place. So a motor issue, not a laser one.

CD-RWs on the other hand killed the laser. Natively a DC can't read a CD-RW, so you need to adjust it's power. In doing so you give it more than it should handle and create a premature wear.

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So will using these harm the laser or not?

>> No.4254332

First order VGA adapter for it. Then Skies of Arcadia and Grandia 2.

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Is this fine?

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I'd recommend these instead

>> No.4254403

Oh shit, sorry.

Looks like I cleared out all remaining UK stock when I bought 500 a few weeks back.

>> No.4254409

the fuck you planning on burning?

>> No.4254476

Mega CD, Playstation, Saturn, Dreamcast

Plus whatever systems I pick up down the line (PC Engine CD most likely, maybe 3DO).

>> No.4254602

Jet set radio!

>> No.4254630

original or De La Jet Set Radio?

>> No.4254685

That written backward thing is completely false

>> No.4254694

>burning CD's
Save your money and play it on emulators. Leave the consoles to real collectors.

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Wew this guy

>> No.4254874

Jet Grind Radio for sure.

Get Rez next.

Also, there's a 99% chance that shit was close to dead and someone adjusted that little screw to make it function for another week or so. If you can afford another way to play backups on that I suggest you do.

>> No.4254879

I was told Skies of Arcadia requires special CDR's and cant just use overburn. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I've only ever had the original disks.

>> No.4254886

I burned the game on regular CDRs, though the first rip of the game that I found played slow and the cutscenes are off, so if you go to find a copy look for a newer one than an older one. And play Pinta's Quest on your VMU. And get batteries for your VMU.

>> No.4254923

Cool, thanks for the info. I've beaten the game a handful of times but never bothered with the VMU aspect (never did with any game since I never bought the batteries). I'm pretty sure the remote for my AC uses the same battery though, so I just might dig out the DC and give that a shot.

Any other VMU games worth looking into that you know of? I think I remember Sonic 1 & 2, and Sword of the Berserk having something...

>> No.4254930

Both games you mentioned have VMU minigames, though I've never played them. Pinta's quest was fun for me just because I could fly around getting extra EXP, gold and items to upload back into my save, and the way it was set up in the story was cute. Pinta goes off on little adventures on the VMU when you take it around with you and play it, then returns to the game to tell his tale and share his loot.

>> No.4254951

Awesome, sounds good. Thanks again for the info!

>> No.4255034

De La is the Japanese version with the American and European versions' extra levels, right?

>> No.4255040

yah it's the same as the american version

>> No.4255641

Skies of Arcadia has a mini RPG VMU game in it, little FP dungeon crawler. Takes up entire VMU to run it.
Or was that Time Stalkers... Think it was Stalkers. Been a while.
I recommend at minimum 2 VMUs

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>> No.4256193

Grandia II

>> No.4256223

The original scene rip removes some content and to my knowledge is the only that would fit in a regular CD-R. The issue is size requirements, and 99-minute disks are not recommended. They burn poorly, aren't read easily (way more motor damage), and have awful QC. It wouldn't be a worthwhile project to redo Arcadia at some point.

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Don't mind me, just sharing some DC game webms. Will dump more later.

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>> No.4257496

I would love to know how to make one of these.

>> No.4257575

Burn your self !

Just kidding homie, u should play Soul Reaver

>> No.4257601

Avisynth. It's a bunch of StackVertical() and StackHorizontal()s with some subroutines to make fetching the assets and positioning them in their grid cells more automatic.
You could probably do a similar thing in any non-linear editor though.

>> No.4257662

Cool. Thanks, friendo.

>> No.4257834

None. Burnt games have awful audio quality. Get some kind of SD card thing.
Only fools spend money on decades old games.

>> No.4257881

>None. Burnt games have awful audio quality.
only a few, that's mostly the games that were released on more than 1 disc

>> No.4258294

99% of games don't have any problem. Most didn't take up the full GD-ROM when they were pressed anyway. It would be cheaper than buying an SD reader to burn all the games that play perfectly and then just buy the one or two games you want to play that don't.

By the way, serial SD readers have bad loading times and drive replacements are like ten times as expensive.

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Do not forget to download and burn Codebreaker for DC.

You can force boot into VGA games that do not support it like Evolution. Is awesome.

>> No.4258442

A genuine VGA box costs more than the console itself. Are any of the third party VGA cables good?

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I have an old RacketBoy one. But have ordered this.


Should work fine.

>> No.4258461

The very first game would should play is Sonic Adventure

I have no idea how the fuck nobody recommended it yet

Don't listen to the IGN shills and memers. Sonic Adventure and Adventure 2 are the only good 3D sonic games

>> No.4258492

I use DC-IE

>> No.4258494

>I have no idea how the fuck nobody recommended it yet
Probably because there are ports of it.

>> No.4258519

Sonic Adventure was on both of these charts

>> No.4258525

Any will work, if you only want VGA get a VGA - Dreamcast cable they're a lot cheaper than VGA boxes

>> No.4258527

Don't forget that Dreamcast online games are still available.

>> No.4258532

These "decades old games" are worth a lot of money. My copy of MUSHA is worth more than your life.

>> No.4258534

Because they're bad games.

>> No.4258538

You've been looking in the mirror, haven't you?

>> No.4258545

>Sonic Adventure 1 & 2
>Bad games
You're either a troll, a filthy casual or a Nintendrone.

>> No.4258551

Just got it in, hooked it up. Works perfectly!

>> No.4258552

>nintendo got both of those as ports
>that's the way most people played them

update your memes my son.

>> No.4258567

>This isn't about the Gamecube ports.
>This is about the Dreamcast ports, the superior versions.
>Most people played them on Xbox Live Arcade or PSN, not Gamecube.

>> No.4258578


The ports are buggy messes with collision and shader issues up the butthole. They're Silent Hill HD collection-Tier

>> No.4258601

>They're Silent Hill HD collection-Tier
Sonic Adventure 2 HD didn't have all the voice actors replaced, so no.

>> No.4258641

>Most people played them on Xbox Live Arcade or PSN, not Gamecube
We don't know that for sure because there were never any sales figures released for the HD versions.

>> No.4258734

Well considering the fact that there's been plenty of PS3's & Xbox 360's sold, PSN & Xbox Live Arcade are easily accessible.

Digital games always sell more than physical copies, Sega must have known this, otherwise most of their games wouldn't be up on PSN or Xbox Live Arcade.

So I'd have to assume that many people who played Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 or people who never got a chance to play Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, but wanted to, ended up buying it on Xbox Live Arcade or PSN. I guess it all depends on chance...

Xbox 360 sold 80 million consoles.
PS3 sold 80 million consoles.
Gamecube sold 21 million consoles.
Dreamcast sold 9.13 million consoles.

Now let's see the sales figures for Sonic Adventure 1 & 2...

Sonic Adventure 1 sold 2.5 million copies.
Sonic Adventure 2 sold 2.68 million copies.
So there's at least about 2.68 million people who either bought the game on Dreamcast, Gamecube or both, I can't tell because they haven't given an exact number on Gamecube sales or Dreamcast sales separately after looking it up.

In either case, 21 million or 9.13 million isn't a large enough number to make the Sonic Adventure games largely accessible. But 160 million Xbox 360 & PS3 owners are enough to make the game largely accessible.

If we were to divide 160 million PS3 & Xbox 360 owners by 15 million Dreamcast & Gamecube owners combined, we get 10.66 million. Divide that by 2.68 million and we get 3.97 million. Times that by 3 and we get an estimated number of at 11.93 million people who are likely to buy Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 on Xbox Live Arcade & PSN. I could throw Steam in the mix, but considering the fact that most PC users are pirates, that's a no go.

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That's some impressive thinking, anon.

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>> No.4259253

How are the Dreamcast versions superior to the Steam versions?

>> No.4259310


>> No.4259460

Steam? Which was what? A port of the PC version(worst version by the way)? Which was a port of the Gamecube version? LOL Like I said, Dreamcast is the superior version. Besides, I get to use my VMU and I get to play it on a CRT TV, just the way it was meant to be played. Not on some computer monitor.

>> No.4259478

Great argument. I'll stick with the 1080p 60fps widescreen version on PC.

>> No.4259504

It's not the original resolution for Sonic Adventure 1 or 2, dumbass.

Dreamcast > PC

>> No.4259506


>PC version
>which is a port of a port of the GameCube version, the worst version of the game


>> No.4259518

So what if it's not the original resolution? 1080p is way better than 480i.
>shitty Dreamcast controller
>console as loud as a jet engine

>> No.4259542

I can't imagine playing a Sonic game on anything other than a Sega console, but hey, that's autism for you I suppose.

>> No.4259682

>hurr I hate dreamcast even though I want to play a dreamcast game

>> No.4259698

>1080p is better...
Sure if you want it stretched out, moron.

>muh framerates
Unless you're an autistic virgin, no one notices framerate differences from either 30fps or 60fps.

>shitty Dreamcast controller
Filthy casual confirmed.

>console as loud as a jet engine
You obviously never owned a Dreamcast. I can think of something way louder, which is my surround sound system, which tends to drown out the sound from the "fan" that's keeping the Dreamcast cool. Even without it, I barely ever notice it. So unless you have super hearing, it's about as loud as a mouse running around in an empty church at night.

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I can't like games released on a console I hate?
>Sure if you want it stretched out, moron.
Does the picture look stretched out to you?
>Unless you're an autistic virgin, no one notices framerate differences from either 30fps or 60fps.
You're blind if you don't notice the difference. Frame rate matters in games like this.
>Filthy casual confirmed.
Have you ever even used the controller? The analog stick rotates, my thumb always slips off of it, the triggers are too far down, and the buttons are mushy shit. The only good thing about the Dreamcast controller is the VMU.
>You obviously never owned a Dreamcast. I can think of something way louder, which is my surround sound system, which tends to drown out the sound from the "fan" that's keeping the Dreamcast cool. Even without it, I barely ever notice it. So unless you have super hearing, it's about as loud as a mouse running around in an empty church at night.
Good for you. I live with other people and I'm not an inconsiderate asshole, so I can't drown out the Dreamcast by cranking up a stereo.

>> No.4259770

>Does the picture look stretched out to you?
Anyone can crop out an image and make it look wide. I do it all the time with my youtube thumbnails. Try harder faggot.

>You're blind if you don't notice the difference. Frame rate matters in games like this.
Nah. If I wanted to go blind, I'd sit 3 inches away from the computer monitor, just like you're doing to try to notice "framerate" differences.

>Have you ever even used the controller?
Of course I've used it. I've been using it since 1999. So in my experience, the controller is fine. It doesn't "slip" with my thumb because of the bumpy texture on it. The triggers aren't far down, they're in the right place & fits my hands perfectly. Buttons too mushy? Not to me. It seems obvious to me that you never owned a Dreamcast, plus you flat out admitted to hating it. So it wouldn't make any sense for you to play or own a Dreamcast. I hate the Wii, you don't see me owning or playing on one.

>Good for you. I live with other people
You mean your parents? LOL That would make a lot of sense why you wouldn't crank up a stereo. Your parents wouldn't like that.

I'm glad I live on my own, it's satisfying to hear music, movies & video games as loud as I can handle it.

>> No.4259806

>The triggers aren't far down, they're in the right place & fits my hands perfectly.
This. The triggers are literally god-tier for racers.

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>Anyone can crop out an image and make it look wide
This is a screenshot of the same thing before the BetterSADX mod. I didn't crop it.
>If I wanted to go blind, I'd sit 3 inches away from the computer monitor, just like you're doing to try to notice "framerate" differences.
Distance from the screen doesn't matter. The difference between 30 and 60 fps is noticeable whether you're 1 foot away from the screen or 10.
>It seems obvious to me that you never owned a Dreamcast, plus you flat out admitted to hating it. So it wouldn't make any sense for you to play or own a Dreamcast.
I actually do own a Dreamcast. That's why I know I fucking hate it. The bumps aren't enough to stop my thumb from slipping off. Your fingers must be one inch long if the triggers are in the right place.
>I'm glad I live on my own, it's satisfying to hear music, movies & video games as loud as I can handle it.
Headphones are better.

>> No.4259898

>I can't like games released on a console I hate?
Of course you can't. If you like Sonic Adventure you like dreamcast. It wasn't just "released" on that console, the pc version is merely a port of a port.

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>> No.4260936

Definitely. When playing a game like Crazy Taxi, the Dreamcast controller is the best one to use.

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Gun Lord is good

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This any good? I'm a sucker for horizontal shmups and besides this and Border Down, I don't know of any others on DC.

>> No.4261378


Blue Stinger is based. Clunky as fuck, but based. Kind of like the Deadly Premontion of its day.

>> No.4261389

Breddy good. The graphics are downright amazing, they shit on most modern (((indie))) games, and the gameplay is solid too. I particularly like the fact that it saves after each level so you don't have to beat it in one sitting and also can practice a particular level over and over.

>> No.4261947

>the max-fire slowdown
the best

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Just never put metal boots on... Is like noob Diablo.

Klang klang Klang klang Klang klang...

>> No.4262213


It's fuckin amazing. Not just graphically but it dynamically switches from side scrolling to overhead and does some cool interesting shit with multi directional shooting

>> No.4262494

Super magnetic neo it won't disappoint

>> No.4262498

>all this autism to play on a 5" monitor

>> No.4264326

Why has no one said Zombies Revenge?

>> No.4264335

Get the best versions of RE2, 3 and CV (unless you're into that Neo Wesker shit)

>> No.4264336

Got anything like this for other consoles?

>> No.4264338

Probably because it sucks.

>> No.4264339

Great value if not a scam.
Mine cost $250 with only one controller.

>> No.4264482

Got one of my DCs at Good Will for like 15$ with 8 games.

>> No.4264680

This. The health status/ammo count VMU feature is actually practical and the DC ports of 2 & 3 have some extras not present in the PS1 and GameCube versions.

>> No.4265767

>Ctrl-f Dynamite Cop
>0 results

you disappoint me, /vr/

>> No.4266228

Has anyone ever used Total Control 5? I hooked a PS/2 keyboard up for Typing of the Dead but it won't recognize my key presses, although num lock lights up.

>> No.4266247

It's a great game, one of my favourites when I had a DC. So many items and fun bits. The woman in the scenes is hilariously rendered i seem to remember. Highlight is the octopus fight!

>> No.4266263

It's good for a couple drunk gaming sessions with a friend, but nothing more desu.

>> No.4266289

I love pso as much as the next guy but there's no reason to play anything other than a blue burst server for PC.

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Do any of the arcade shooter ports play well with the DC controller or am I just better off investing in a couple of the light guns?

>> No.4266397

You mean Light Gun games? Seem to reasonably well. I think it matters the most if you like Light Gun games of course

>> No.4266469

How do I replace one, anyway?

>> No.4266473

Kinda frustrating how 90% of the time Horsey is a retard, but like once a year he make a good comic.

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I miss my Dreamcast

>> No.4266517

You and I are the only people who like this game.


>> No.4266604

It's just so short. There are three routes through the game but it still doesn't add up to much.
I guess that potentially makes it a good party game, but only two can play.

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>no mention of the best robot fighter in the history of video games

You disappoint me yet again /vr/

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