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Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:34:19 2017 No.4240927 [Reply] [Original]

FUCKING BISON HE FUCKING FLYS ACROSS THE STAGE AND HITS YOU WITH HIS FUCKING LONG ASS KICK MOVE AND GRABBING YOU OUT OF EVERYTHING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 22:09:25 2017 No.4240975 File: 179 KB, 620x713, Rugal.Bernstein.full.1999249.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4240927 Have you met Rugal Bernstein of KoF infamy? Trust me, you'll beg to fight Bison a million times before you go up against Rugal again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 22:27:30 2017 No.4240996 >>4240975 >Berenstain Fixed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 22:42:31 2017 No.4241010 >>4240975 KOF bosses make rage like nothing else

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 23:34:34 2017 No.4241083 >>4240975 I literally don't know how this guy did it, but he beat Rugal on the highest difficulty without taking a single hit: https://youtu.be/4MO6Vv0X0Xc

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 23:43:09 2017 No.4241093 ITT fags who play the cpu in fighting games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 00:06:59 2017 No.4241135 >>4241083 >TAS There's your answer.

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 05:33:46 2017 No.4241594 [DELETED]

>>4240927
>>4240975
Both super easy

Vega (dictator) , easiest with Ken, when vega is in the corner stand just outside of his sweep range, wait a split second, he will attack, know his red tushie back into the corner with DP, once you land throw the next SINGLE FB, repeat till he is dead.

Rugal 94, position yourself close to him, just outside of his throw range, evade one time with A&B, then push towards him, throw him, as he falls get close to him again, just outside of throw range, repeat...

You people are big fat noobs :D

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 05:52:53 2017 No.4241616 [DELETED]

>>4240927 (OP)
>>4240975

Both super easy

Vega 91 (dictator) , easiest with Ken, when vega is in the corner stand just outside of his sweep range, wait a split second, he will attack, knock him back into the corner with DP, once you land throw the next SINGLE FB, repeat till he is dead.

Rugal 94, position yourself close to him, just outside of his throw range, evade one time with A&B, then push towards him, throw him, as he falls get close to him again, just outside of throw range, repeat...

Stop listening to the fag who tells you not to play the cpu in fighting games. How else are you going to fuck the AI bosses up?

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 06:23:33 2017 No.4241659

>>4240927 (OP) (OP)
>>4240975

Both super easy

Vega 91 (dictator) , easiest with Ken, when vega is in the corner stand just outside of his sweep range, throw a SINGLE FB, wait a split second, he will attack, knock him back into the corner with DP, once you land throw the next SINGLE FB, repeat till he is dead.

Rugal 94, position yourself close to him, just outside of his throw range, evade one time with A&B, then push towards him, throw him, as he falls get close to him again, just outside of throw range, repeat till the clock runs out

Stop listening to the fag who tells you not to play the cpu in fighting games. How else are you going to fuck the AI bosses up?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 08:05:13 2017 No.4241741 >>4240996 kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 08:18:10 2017 No.4241756 >>4241135 What's TAS? t. Not knower

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 09:32:32 2017 No.4241851 Fighting games are literally the most cheap unfun games in singleplayer. Every single game they get lazy as fuck and just make the AI read your inputs. Is there a SINGLE fighting game that's fun to play with decent AI in single player?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 09:43:34 2017 No.4241865 >>4241851 Dead or Alive because I don't even care what's going on, just want to feel aroused.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 09:50:17 2017 No.4241872 >>4241851 >read your inputs I never understood this complaint, how else would they do it? Or I guess the complaint is about the AI having inhumanly low reaction times? Because that's a completely separate problem.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 10:23:32 2017 No.4241935 >>4241872 Maybe made them block instead of counter-hit with invulnerable moves?

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 13:28:01 2017 No.4242218

>>4241872
>How else would they do it

Maybe a learning algorithm or some shit? I dunno. Or anything that isn't instantly do the perfect counter reversal hit to the button you just pressed the millisecond you pressed it.

Go play Super Turbo arcade. It's fucking insane even on the easiest difficulty.

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 15:10:25 2017 No.4242449

>>4241935
>>4242218
The real problem is not input reading, that's the cheapest way (performance wise) to get the AI to know what's going on, because the AI can't "see" the screen the same way a human would, not without very complex image recognition algorithms. And the point is the end result would be the same, the AI would still have 0ms reaction time unless the programmers deliberately slowed it down. The issue has more to do with arcades being arcades and the AI being made to be borderline unbeatable unless you learn and exploit its quirks because they simply wanted to milk quarters out of people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 16:11:24 2017 No.4242580 >>4241756 Tool assisted. In example, save states, rewindss, etc.

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 18:58:50 2017 No.4242872 [DELETED]

>>4241872

The problem are a rare handful of fighting games where the AI reads your inputs and mercilessly punishes every move you make. Those are rare and of course completely unfun. Whats fun is that in some games like breakers, you can input your characters super motion, then instantly block and watch the CPU react to that by doing a counter-super. Just bait out shit.

A lot of people on this board are literally STUPID and thus constantly feel the need to de-value concepts they are unable to grasp.

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 19:00:32 2017 No.4242874

>>4241872

The problem is a rare handful of fighting games, where the AI reads your inputs and mercilessly punishes every move you make. Those are rare and of course completely unfun. Whats fun is that in some games like breakers, you can input your characters super motion, then instantly block and watch the CPU react to that by doing a counter-super. Just bait out shit.

A lot of people on this board are literally STUPID and thus constantly feel the need to de-value concepts they are unable to grasp.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 7 01:15:35 2017 No.4243514 File: 45 KB, 165x180, Donkey Shrug.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > caring about 1P mode it's just not that fun

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 7 01:30:03 2017 No.4243527 >>4240927 >pick ryu >hold up >press roundhouse repeatedly

Anonymous Thu Sep 7 01:50:01 2017 No.4243549
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FUCKING LITERALLY ANY OF THESE GUYS JESUS FUCK THIS GAME CAN SUCK MY DICK THOSE FLAMES ARE THE RAGE TRYING TO BEAT AT LEAST 3 FIGHTERS IN NORMAL. NORMAL MY ASS THIS GAME IS BULLSHIT but I still love it though

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 7 02:34:25 2017 No.4243602 >>4243549 samsho 3 and ST usa do a lot of input reading, and punish excessively

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