/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4230759]

Why were there no artistically sophisticated games on Sega's platforms like there were for Nintendo's?

[Anonymous No.4230765]

I fucking hate the FF6 opera.

[Anonymous No.4230768]

>>4230759
What do you mean? Top ecco the dolphin.

[Anonymous No.4230772]

>>4230759
Both are great but psiv is more than ffvi

[Anonymous No.4230773]

>>4230765
this will happen to your gf now

[Anonymous No.4230781]

>>4230765
Tired of hearing how "cultured" FF6 is? I know I am.

[Anonymous No.4230784]

>>4230765

fucking this. played this game when i was a kid at release, cant believe how over rated this shit is.

[Anonymous No.4230790]

>>4230781
the best part is the fanbase treating it like a Greek classic.
see
http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff06
>>/vr/thread/S4178975#p4183291

[Anonymous No.4230792]

>>4230765
>>4230781
>>4230784
I fucking love FFVI and even I agree with this.

[Anonymous No.4230793]

>>4230759
Ecco the Dolphin is far more arty than that gaudy trash

[Anonymous No.4230795]

>>4230781
I heard nothing but praise for FF6 when its following game came out. People like OP have FF6 praise for being more than the sum of its parts. When I make these critiques, people say I'M being autistic. I'm going to throw you a bone because for some reason I'm being nice.

If you WANT a game to have a lot of cutscenes, fine. In fact, I've played my share of games that are cutscene heavy.

There's a difference between a game and a fucking movie. A game should be interactive. If control is taken away, I might as well watch a movie. Movies are better at telling visual narratives than games.

[Anonymous No.4230808]

>>4230784
That's because you were just a kid when you played it. Be 20, having slogged through many earlier rpgs with almost nothing in the way of artistic storytelling and then come upon the opera scene. It was mind blowing at the time. It's no surprise it had such an impact.

[Anonymous No.4230831]

>>4230808
I remember being a kid, and teen and a young man, and always wondering what the fuck is a wrong with people about this opera scene. It was never mind blowing.

[Anonymous No.4230836]

>>4230831
Considering there were games with full songs and shit on the snes it actually comes off as pretty cheap. Sure you had to be a nip to hear most of them, but it's also not like that was the first time either. I really don't understand the hype of the scene at all. Maybe if you really only played final fantasy exclusively.

[Anonymous No.4230846]

>>4230831
>>4230836
"mind blowing" is overstating sure but it was something that was well and above the use of presentation through timed-scripting and music in any other game at the time. Also something lost in translation is that the music notes are in time with the lyrics and thus you can sing along in correct meter in Japanese

[Anonymous No.4230849]

>>4230808
nigga u gay

[Anonymous No.4230852]

>>4230793
Ecco the Dolphin is a borefest and this is coming from someone that has a Genesis and doesn't like Final Fantasy.

Inb4
>Y-YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MUH GAME!!!111"!!!

[Anonymous No.4230862]

>>4230759
Those cinematic experiences are on sega cd.

[Anonymous No.4230868]

>>4230852
t. got killed by mercilessly slaughtered by underwater creatures

[Anonymous No.4230873]

>>4230868
It's not as hard as you seem to remember it, buddy.

[Anonymous No.4230904]

>>4230873
Can you guys say another thing to defend that game? Everytime is the same answer.

[Anonymous No.4230913]

>>4230904
My bad. Wanted to quote >>4230868

[Anonymous No.4230920]

>>4230904
There's a reason the developers of Ecco made pic related. Too many people couldn't git gud.

[Anonymous No.4230934]

>>4230768
>>4230793
>muh vaporwave DUDE weed lmao art game
Just look in the archive at the Ecco threads to see what sort of people these games attract.

>>4230790
Yeah, FFVI fans are pretty histrionic, that post being a great example. I remember another six thread where two random guys were discussing FFVI's display of metaphysics and histro-cultural analysis for like 100 straight posts.

I love FFVI, but goddamn the fanbase is cringe.

[Anonymous No.4230935]

>>4230920
I'm starting to think that Ecco the Dolphin is the Earthbound of Sega Genesis with all these delusional fans.

[Anonymous No.4230952]

>>4230846
Ultima 7, and particularly 8 come to mind.

Dude gets his head chopped off, eaten by a kraken in time to the music, smooth animation. Lots of other scripted scenes. I guess that's why I wasn't wowed, it just seemed par for the course

[Anonymous No.4230962]

>>4230759
>artistically sophisticated
>sophisticated

You neglected to mention that talking octopus battle that shortly follows this scene.

[Anonymous No.4230968]

>>4230962
>octopus
Is that a reference to The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife? Holy shit that is deep, bro.

[Anonymous No.4231001]

The opera scene is neat, but it wastes a lot of time that could be better spent actually playing the game.

[Anonymous No.4231018]

>>4230759
>artistically sophisticated
Sounds like you're autistically sophisticated

[Anonymous No.4231027]

>>4231001
Game? Its an RPG
>>4230935
At least Ecco is a game

[Anonymous No.4231035]

might be artistic but the "LOL GATHER YOUR PARTY MEMBERS AGAIN" horseshit in the world of ruin is retarded
at least square learned quickly and never tried to pull that shit again

[Anonymous No.4231043]

>>4231027
>At least Ecco is a game
Yep. Bore yourself to Death with Dolphins: The Game - Turbo Hyper Arcade Edition.

[Anonymous No.4231082]

>>4230808
At the time, given everything that had come before it, the opera scene really stood out as something special. But like I say, the context is very important.

>>4230904
They are right, aside from a couple of specific bits it's not super hard. It just plays unlike anything else and is a game about patience under pressure which is unusual.

[Anonymous No.4231102]

Ikaruga and Radiant Silvergun are the only two video games that could really qualify as art and they're both on SEGA platforms. What's this thread even about?

[Anonymous No.4231105]

>>4231043
It's many things, but certainly not boring. I say everyone should try it at least once, because it's so unique. But they're definitely not games that appeal to everyone so I'm never surprised when someone doesn't dig them.

[Anonymous No.4231107]

>>4231027
>role playing games aren't games
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.4231119]

>>4230968
deeper than the ocean bro. Whoa, that's deep too.

>>4231027
On this board, RPG means role-playing game, not rocket-propelled grenade. You're thinking of /k/. Happens all the time.

[Anonymous No.4231120]

>>4230831
>I remember being a kid, and teen and a young man, and always wondering what the fuck is a wrong with people about this opera scene. It was never mind blowing.

well, what impressed you from that time and your age when it was released?

[Anonymous No.4231136]

>>4231120
Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past
Real gameplay

[Anonymous No.4231141]

>>4231107
No gameplay = not a game.

[Anonymous No.4231149]

>>4231136
Makes sense. Opera scene isn't about gameplay, it's about story. A love story at that. Not surprising it didn't connect with kids.

[Anonymous No.4231157]

The opera music of the Ultros battle was GOAT though

[Anonymous No.4231165]

>>4231141
But they have plenty gameplay, so much so in fact that they're called Role Playing GAMES. I know your learning disability might keep you from understanding this but you must try.

[samefag No.4231210]

>>4231120
I was also the guy that posted about Ultima 8. --https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFaXdWIRcN8
What else--
Wing Commander, Loom, Monkey island all had talking heads and music synced with what was happening on screen.

Like, literally almost anything has a better story than the opera, the opera is almost a meta commentary on operas because it's such a condensed sketch of an opera story..

[Anonymous No.4231218]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sK7W_vS__c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e_P9bs5XtM

[Anonymous No.4231257]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYwWuqhz-zw

[Anonymous No.4231278]

>>4231257
That made me feel uncomfortable, thanks internet stranger.

[Anonymous No.4231414]

>>4230968
Japanese people are too obsessed with tentacle rape and rape in general.

[Anonymous No.4231431]

>>4230759
lol
https://youtu.be/NhAAYJNQZ_k

[Anonymous No.4231484]

>>4230765
I went into it during college thinking that it would be overrated bullshit.

couldn't stop crying in that moment.

[Anonymous No.4231719]

>>4231484
>couldn't stop crying in that moment.

[Anonymous No.4231725]

>>4231484
>couldn't stop crying in that moment.

[Anonymous No.4231726]

>>4231484
lol you fag

>>4230759
possibly the worst scene in final fantasy history

[Anonymous No.4231754]

>>4231725
Why did you post a pic of an empty room?

[Anonymous No.4231758]

>>4231105
I prefer Robocod

[Anonymous No.4231763]

>>4230934
What does the fan base have to do with the game's artistic value?

[Anonymous No.4231768]

>>4231763
ff6 has no artistic value

[Anonymous No.4231771]

>>4231484
>couldn't stop crying in that moment.

[Anonymous No.4231796]

anyway FF6 is artistic

but so is Ecco and Phantasy Star
all who disagree are contrarian

[Anonymous No.4231821]

We can agree Ecco is kino in interactive form, yes?

And we can also agree that no JRPG will ever be kino, correct?

[Anonymous No.4231853]

>>4231821
naw art is subjective there is no objective hierarchy.

whatever u like is best. all games are great and terrible

[Anonymous No.4231858]

>>4230759
Be careful drawing comparisons in this board. My thread about crpg and jrpg was deleted by fascists mods.

[Anonymous No.4231864]

>>4231821
>kino
Agreed, Ecco is indeed on par with a shitty /tv/ meme.

[Anonymous No.4231869]

>>4231484
>couldn't stop crying in that moment.

[Anonymous No.4231949]

>>4231858
Are you the guy who was so salty at the mods that he posted a dick pic here yesterday?

[Anonymous No.4231967]

>>4231484
>couldn't stop crying in that moment.

[Anonymous No.4231970]

>>4230759
imagine how intellectually stunted by games you must be in order to think of them as "artsy" or "intellectual".

I play video games as a hobby, and it's certainly a hobby I've invested a lot of time in. that being said, I've NEVER played a game that I would put on par with anything from the western literary canon, or any other canon I'm familiar with.

when video games take up so much of your time that begin to see them as equal or superior to other media, I think it's a wake up call that it's time for you spend a little time doing something else for a change. games are fun and stimulating, but they aren't "classic literature".

[Anonymous No.4231976]

>>4231970
This. It doesn't even feel as intentional trolling anymore. What's even worse is people are doing that even more nowadays. There are so many other forms of media where story telling has been established. Why would you even want to compare game stories to literature , live performance or movies/TV? For what purpose? Isn't playing games exactly what makes them different and worth spending your time on to begin with?

[Anonymous No.4231987]

>>4231484
>>4231719
>>4231725
>>4231726
>>4231771
>>4231869
>>4231967


WE DID IT REDDIT!!!
PLS INCLUDE ME IN THE SCREENCAP xDDDD

[Anonymous No.4231990]

>>4230934
Kekd at weed lmao game

[Anonymous No.4232013]

>>4231484
FF6 makes me cry of how good it is

[Anonymous No.4232079]

>>4231970
Lol

[Anonymous No.4232082]

>>4231821
What is kino?

[Anonymous No.4232090]

>>4231970
Right on the feels anon

[Anonymous No.4232095]

>>4232082
a cancerous /tv/ meme. in this context, OP meant that he liked ecco because it had what he thought seemed like a compy b-movie aesthetic.

it's not the same thing, but it's similar to the vaporwave meme in how it's used by people who praise the aesthetic of a game without ever playing it.

[Anonymous No.4232102]

>>4232095
Ahh I'm not up to date on my memes. I am the local superfan for that gane though and usually the mention if that stuff in ecco threads is tounge in cheek. They're usually decent if you go read the archives.

ButUt also I would never hold it up as some incredible work of artistry. I just think it's an awesome game that I encourage people to st least try because it's so unique.

[Anonymous No.4232161]

>>4231970
I'm pretty sure most if this is ff6 being compared to other games. No one is saying it's Proust, but compared to other rpgs of the time it was more ambitious with it's storytelling.

[Anonymous No.4232168]

>>4230920
Ecco was a broken game. They gave up designing one of the atlantis levels halfway through and just had you jump over all of it.

Op may be retarded, but Ecco's difficulty was still 80% bullshit.

[Anonymous No.4232170]

>>4231082
The opera scene was included in some dumb magazine best gaming moments of all time thing, and idiots who never played it before latched onto the idea like idiots

[Anonymous No.4232174]

>>4232168
Which level is that? What makes you think they gave up half way?

I've played it many times and it certainly is challenging, but aside from the one big jump in City of Forever (which has a short cut that lets you bypass it) nothing in it is bullshit. And certainly not broken.

It is however being patient and precise under time pressure which isn't a type if challenge that appeals to everyone.

[Anonymous No.4232175]

>jrpg
>grind grind grind
>hack n slash mobs
>suddenly opera starts
>"lol wtf this is bad lul!!!!!!"

then you go complain that all games are the same.

[Anonymous No.4232176]

>>4232170
Right, but you do get why it was included in those magazines? I'm really just explaining why it gained the reputation it did. Even if it has been blown out of proportion since, that scene seemed groundbreaking in it's time.

[Anonymous No.4232189]

>>4232175
I hope you realise that "opera as an aesthetic" is one of the most common "faux high brow" tropes in pop culture. They literally just took an ordinary scene, - which was a very generic jrpg scene, by the way - , and slapped a stupid gimmick on it. It's not opera, but rather ordinary narration that uses an opera setting as a cheap and shallow aesthetic.

You can see it as an equivalent of all the instagram filters teenagers use when they want to seem "deep" on social media.

[Anonymous No.4232193]

>>4232189
Not that guy but again, you do understand the context right? Even bad soap opera storytelling shoehorned into an rpg was enough to make it seem almost incredible put beside other rpgs of tbe time.

Context is everything. It's one thing to not find the scene compelling yourself. But not understanding why others did doesn't .make you seem erudite.

[Anonymous No.4232270]

>>4232189
Look, an opera usually lasts from 2 to 4 hours, did you expect a game on SNES to put a whole act for you to "play"? They can't, so all you get is an actually elaborated symphonic piece and some scenes. Conveniently, the point is not to play the whole thing, the Returners' plan was to get Setzer's attention to kidnap Maria. As the opera goes on Locke get to read Ultros letter, thus resulting in a battle that interrupts it.

Yeah it could have more depth but I think you're going too far criticizing it for being generic when they tried something nobody attempted before.

[Anonymous No.4232308]

>>4231970
>games aren't as artistic as muh movies or muh books so that means they can't have some degree of artistic quality

You're an idiot. Nobody ITT was comparing games to other forms of media, aside from your shitty strawman.

[Anonymous No.4232396]

>>4232270
Not him, but no, I really don't see what sets it apart from any other scene in the game.

It's fine, even good, but so is almost every scene--it's a good game.

The only argument I actually understood here was that it matched text on screen with music and you can sing along with it. Which again is good, but it's also not unique. The entire point of games is being able interact with the sound and video on screen.

[Anonymous No.4232452]

>>4232396
>but it's also not unique
Would you mind lecture me and show examples in video game that predates the opera section in this game? For me its something new for the time and very creative back then.

[Anonymous No.4232472]

>>4232452
>>4231210
Loom is almost literally swan lake. It's entre ost is different Tchaikovsky pieces.

Again, I can't pin down what's so mind blowing about the opera for you, I just know that I was half a pc gamer and was very meh on it.

[Anonymous No.4232481]

>>4232452
Torneko beggining in DQ IV was more interesting than this opera cutscene.

[Anonymous No.4232489]

>>4231484
>couldn't stop crying in that moment.

[Anonymous No.4232496]

>>4232472
> I can't pin down what's so mind blowing about the opera for you
Ok we got a misunderstanding. Its not mind blowing for me I just praise its creativity.

[Anonymous No.4232547]

>>4232396
>I really don't see what sets it apart from any other scene in the game.

If you can't see it I don't know what else to tell you, but many, many people have over the years which is why that part has been talked about so much.

[Anonymous No.4232586]

>>4232547
Well you can't articulate what it is, so I guess it's a big nothing burger.

[Anonymous No.4232640]

>>4232586
I wasn't that guy. I think it's obvious why it stands out as much as it does. Just like it was to so many others and why it's so famous. I'm not going to put effort into trying to spell out what you're missing so you get it. I don't really care if you ever do or not. Just understand that many others over the years do see and that's why they praise it.

[Anonymous No.4232683]

>>4232640
It's shallow crap just like the rest of the game. I played ff6 when it was new hot shit, and loved it. Yet, it's not like its the greatest story ever told.

I was more moved burying a wingman or myself after i fucked up a mission in wingcommander. Music was better too.

[Anonymous No.4232687]

I have an absolutely shit memory so I kept fucking up the lyrics minigame and had to do this scene like 6 times.

Fuck the opera.

[Anonymous No.4232725]

>>4232683
That's nice, not everyone connects with the same things. If you truly can't see it that's fine, just try not to be as shocked others do.

>>4232687
I feel bad for how hard the rest of life must be for you.

[Anonymous No.4232752]

>>4232725
I actually wanted someone to explain it to me, but no one can actually say what it is about the opera scene, so I guess it's nothing afterall.

It's like how some people say they have all these great ideas inside their heads. They have a great novel or great song they're working on. They can't get it out of their head though because it's not actually there, all they have is a fantasy of their own skill.

That there is a lot of people that bought into this fantasy doesn't make it true. I want someone that can actually talk about it.

[Anonymous No.4232776]

>>4232752
That you even need it explained is what's a weird combination of sad and funny. I honestly think you're playing it up but whatever. If you sincerely don't get why one of the most famous sequences in a retro rpg got to be that way it's no skin off my back.

I did say in a earlier post that a love story scene was almost certain to not appeal to younger players. So if you were under 16, 17 or so at the time I could see it mot clicking. And maybe then never appealing after. But also who cares? You don't like a thing some others do isn't the end of the world. And certainly not worth going diwn a rabbit hoke trying to change your mind over.

[Anonymous No.4232790]

>>4232752
not that guy, I'm not a fan of VI (WoR is just too dull for me and I never cared for the bloated cast which never felt like a team), but even I found this an interesting read

http://www.ffwa.eu/boards/showthread.php?t=67043

there's a bit about the opera there which may give you some answers

[Anonymous No.4232902]

>>4232790
Apparently I do get it, I'm just not as impressed by it as others.

I knew a guy in highshcool. It literally changed his worldview and got him into game design.

[Anonymous No.4232920]

SNES drunk has a good video on FF6 talking about the opera scene how it feels like it was just in there to be in there. People who cry over this shit are literally just crying over music and the opera because there is no emotional attachment when the scene takes place.

[Anonymous No.4232923]

>>4232902
that's a bit extreme, but then again highschoolers tend to be impressionable
personally, I found the part about the harlequinade more interesting

[Anonymous No.4232930]

Opera scene is what all modern games are now. More a movie than a game.

[Anonymous No.4232931]

>>4230781
>>4230790
>>4230934
>reddit plays video games
not directed at you guys but the ones you are talking about in your posts

[Anonymous No.4232935]

>>4231484
you're gay kill youself

[Anonymous No.4232938]

>>4230790
>>4230934
I need more of this autistic shit.
I don't even dislike FFVI but the fanbase is so full of emotionally stunted man-children that it's genuinely fascinating.

http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2010/02/final-fantasy-vi.html

[Anonymous No.4232949]

>>4232931
>reddit has to explain the context for their post
oh wow so many upvotes! :3

[Anonymous No.4232953]

>>4232938
Linking to Hardcoregaming is fucking cheating.

[Anonymous No.4232981]

>>4232949
I explained because I didnt want some spazoid thinking I was calling him reddit lol

[Anonymous No.4233013]

>>4232981
Then you reply to the posts you're calling reddit instead of trying to get friendly upvotes from someone else you stupid newfag.

[Anonymous No.4233025]

>>4230759
why are nintentards such filthy casuals?

[Anonymous No.4233035]

>>4233013
holy fuck you are stupid. I was pointing out that is how reddit discusses video games without fucking saying it, nobody was fedora posting in there so its kind of hard to reply to reddit posts. Maybe 4chan is too meta for you dude reddit might actually be more your pace, I was making light of the fact that reddit does the psuedointellectual armchair psychologist over examining shit. Thanks for killing any faith I had in this board and letting me know reddit has really taken over. You faggots don't understand meta, you cant read between the lines you are all autistic as hell and read into everything way to literally you don't belong here you have no sense of nuance and I even tried to spoiler it to give you a chance now I fly off the handle because I thought this place was for people who fucking understand nuance. You're retarded and you're the newfag. Now go back to writing your university thesis on kefka fuckin autist

[Anonymous No.4233065]

>>4233025
Damn, that Hybrid Front art is real nice.

[Anonymous No.4233169]

The opera scene was far from the best In the game, and probably directly responsible for everything bad in FF7.

[Anonymous No.4233208]

>>4233035
>buzzwords, buzzwords, and more buzzwords
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.4233348]

>>4231970
This. The FF games were made for children. Only retards would treat them as highbrow.

[Anonymous No.4233349]

I fucking LOVED the ff6 opera. You prople are CANCERRRRRRR.

[Anonymous No.4233367]

>>4233025
OP wasn't asking for jrpg's, he was asking for games that are refined and evocative.

[Anonymous No.4233384]

>>4231970
To be honest, I do think there are some aspects and genres that I think games work better in.

For example, I am slightly more stimulated by playing a detective game than a detective book because plot progression depends only on if I can solve the mystery.

I think video games is its own thing from movies and books as movies were a different thing from books. And it has a good crux to rely on, which is interactivity.

[Anonymous No.4233390]

>>4233367
tomayto, tomatto

[Anonymous No.4233393]

>>4233367
>refined and evocative
you mean a boring rehash?

[Anonymous No.4233401]

>>4233035
Lol

[Anonymous No.4233412]

>>4230759
People REALLY underrate Sega's JRPG game. In 1993 they released Shining Force 2, which is a great substitute for Fire Emblem, and they released Phantasy Star 4, a fucking juggernaut of cinematic storytelling considering the limitations and times.

[Anonymous No.4233426]

>>4230765
I thought it was pretty cool, though it did take a big chunk out of the gameplay for a time, and chasing Ultros through the rafters sucked ass.

[Anonymous No.4233428]

>>4233412
SNES definitely has a leg up in that category but it's frankly insulting how many people act like the Genesis/Megadrive was the 64 of it's gen when it came to RPGs.

[Anonymous No.4233458]

>>4231970
Not related to FFVI opera, there's some things you can do in video games that can't be done in any other medium. That said, there's also a few games out there that explore themes better than some of the best literature, and do so without nearly as much direct exposition, using the entire set of components of the media (visuals, sound, writing, and player engagement) to produce the effect. In that sense, video games are more akin to Theater than literature, requiring each of those parts to come together as a whole, and the entire thing is only as strong as its weakest bit, whereas literature only has a single avenue and point of failure for its work (the writer's talent at writing).

Dismissing the form of media out of hand is intellectually ruinous, as is refusing to appreciate the effect of any and all media to convey ideas and emotion on their merits rather than expecting all types to conform to a specific design.

[Anonymous No.4233461]

>>4233349
You probably cried when Aerithhhhhhh died.

[Anonymous No.4233468]

>>4233458
All you're telling me is the you don't really absorb literature.

[Anonymous No.4233476]

>>4233468
All you're telling us is that you lack basic reading comprehension skills.

[Anonymous No.4233480]

>>4233412
Also Sega CD has awesome rpgs

[Anonymous No.4233484]

>>4233461
I think the biggest death in Final Fantasy wasn't actually a death at all. Rachel in FFVI telling Locke to move on was one of the best scenes in the entire series, but it's completely overlooked.

[Anonymous No.4233512]

>>4233208
i was trying to start a pasta, I wanted to go on about being levels ahead of you but I thought that would be too obvious so i toned it down. Maybe I should go to /v/ though they sure aren't as fucking retarded as you are mate.

[Anonymous No.4233665]

>>4231035
Played it for the first time earlier this year and tapped out when I reached this. I just couldn't be bothered.

[Anonymous No.4233673]

>>4233512
Or maybe you just got out meta'd /v/irgin, also;
>pretending to be retarded
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.4233713]

>>4233412
And thats about it. In addition some interesting ports but overall a scarce RPG catalog.

[Anonymous No.4233718]

>>4233412
I've only played PS1, which I felt was underwhelming, but then again, it was 2015. Is it worth playing 2 and 3 to get to 4, or can I play 4 straight out of the box and know what's going on?

[Anonymous No.4233738]

>>4230765
Got stuck in my head when I was a kid.

[Anonymous No.4233747]

>>4230759
>artistically sophisticated
go read some books my nigga

[Anonymous No.4234328]

>>4233065
Katsuya Terada?

>>4233025
Some of those are straight clones of Nintendo games and others have Nintendo ports. Great shit post.

[Anonymous No.4234339]

>>4234328
SNES Langrisser is more of a remake.

[Anonymous No.4234478]

>>4234328
Seems to be Jun Suemi, who I've never heard of. Terada did those realistic LoZ illustrations, right? Similar styles.

[Anonymous No.4235205]

>>4234328
>Some of those are straight clones of Nintendo games

Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.4235208]

>>4233747
this

[Anonymous No.4235631]

>>4232095
I will praise Eccos aesthetic, non-cd soundtrack, and gameplay because it is a damn good game.

[Anonymous No.4235658]

>>4232752
>I actually wanted someone to explain it to me, but no one can actually say what it is about the opera scene, so I guess it's nothing afterall.

I think the main reason FFVI fans aren't able to describe why the scene is good is because the scene triggered emotions specific to them, but they aren't willing to admit it nor able to describe it.

>It's like how some people say they have all these great ideas inside their heads. They have a great novel or great song they're working on. They can't get it out of their head though because it's not actually there, all they have is a fantasy of their own skill.

This. If people can't explain it or covert their ideas into something communicable, then they might as well not exist.

[Anonymous No.4235713]

>>4230759
Because Genesis had arcade GAMEs, not shitty interactive movies.


>>4232930

Fucking this. The FF6 opera foreshadowed all the pretentious movie games to follow.

[Anonymous No.4235840]

>>4235658
>If people can't explain it or covert their ideas into something communicable, then they might as well not exist.

Its not that easy kid. Language converts whats on our mind into something you can communicate but that doesn't mean the language can convey everything. This happens to me very often when watching films.