/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4210902]

Any games that were ignored/shitty back in the day that somehow reached meme status later on?

[Anonymous No.4210907]

the king's field and shadow tower games

[Anonymous No.4210912]

Most bad games desu. Shaq-Fu, Superman 64, ET, Cheetahmen, CD-i Zelda games, the list goes on.

[Anonymous No.4210914]

Psychic 5 is a rare game that no one ever heard of until it got emulated on MAME.

[Anonymous No.4210917]

>>4210914
Also the long lost Strider clone Osman

[Anonymous No.4210928]

>>4210912
Don't forget all the "rare" games on NES that only became rare because no one bought them in the first place.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4210970]

Earthbound

[Anonymous No.4210973]

>>4210902
IMMA GONNA PUNCH HIM IN DA FACE!

[Anonymous No.4210981]

>>4210902
Pretty sure that Chris Pruett and his blog/podcasts are the only reason anybody in North America is even aware that Hellnight/Dark Messiah even exists.

[Anonymous No.4211021]

>>4210902
sanic cd

[Anonymous No.4211057]

god I hate metal jesus' fucking face.

[Anonymous No.4211220]

>>4210902

[Anonymous No.4211223]

>>4210912

Shaq-fu was infamous on release because of celeb status.

[Anonymous No.4211232]

>>4211220
Dafuq? Bayou Billy wasn't unknown. I played the shit outta that game.

Inb4 my having played it doesn't constitute everyone having played it

Maybe Wurm: Journey to the Center of the Earth? Or Destiny of an Emperor?

[Anonymous No.4211292]

>>4211232
It was well known yes, but I was under the impression op meant unknown or shitty, and bayou billy certainly qualifies for the latter

[Anonymous No.4211308]

>>4210970

Fucking this actually

Bought EB game when it released in '95 and spent years with no one to talk to about it or who knew anything about it. It was a massive flop and anyone who did know about it just complained about the "shitty" graphics and battle system.

These days its gone completely to the other extreme. Its turned into some super "overrated" game that everyone bitches about because everyone loves it now or something.

I was an idea for liking the game back then, and am an idea for liking it now, but for two competently different reasons. I have no idea but it makes me pull my hair out.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4211348]

>>4211308
I'm sure it's an okay game especially if a person were maybe just 5 years younger than I am but its history AS a game epitomizes everything that's just the worst about "retro gaming"

[Anonymous No.4211358]

Glover. No one gave a shit about Glover back in the day.

[Anonymous No.4211387]

>>4211348

I think its just one of those games that really benefits from proper context. This is an extremely 90s game, for 90s gamers, from its video game cliche parodies to its cultural references. Its not going to hold the same weight to people outside of that 90s context. To them its just going to be a "funny and goofy" game. Its like watching Hot Fuzz without being a fan of buddy cop or action movies. Its still good, but it won't be nearly as appreciated as someone who is really into the genre and can get into the head space of the creator.

The appreciation of EB these days has devolved into immature humor and youtube style obnoxiousness, and that drives me fucking crazy since there really is so much subtly and subtext to so much of the game that goes over most younger fans heads.

Its not a perfect game by any stretch but I don't think you can get the full appreciation of it "unless you were there". Sometimes I wish the game stayed obscure...

[Anonymous No.4211403]

Romancing SaGa
Treasure of the Rudras
Alien Soldier
Castlevania Bloodlines
Gimmick
Turrican

[Anonymous No.4211405]

>>4211358

Is this a meme now? Glover was great but I don't really notice anything about it these days.

[Anonymous No.4211426]

Altered Beast.

>>4211403
>Turrican

That was extremely well renowned for its day.

[Anonymous No.4211427]

>>4211358
Quite the opposite, actually. Glover was a game a lot of people had because it was a $20 budget title.

[Anonymous No.4211589]

>>4210902
Any game an e-celeb made a review about praising it as "le hidden gem". Little Samson and Hagane are a few that come to mind. Nobody gave a fuck about any of those games but because youtubers talked about it, viewers think they're valuable and want to show off how big their E-penis is. It makes me sound like a hipster but most of the time such a "underrated" game always feels mediocre to me when I play it while playing games that are still relatively "obscure" like Plok, Power Blade and Super Battletank 2 are a lot more interesting to me.

[Anonymous No.4211595]

>>4211589
This. Game Grumps possibly the biggest offender with Shatterhand, Journey to Silius, Goof Troop, etc.

[Anonymous No.4211774]

[Anonymous No.4211779]

Michael Jackson's Moonwalker was a game that got absolutely slammed in the reviews and nobody who played a lot of games took seriously, until the dude died. Then the game became rarer than fuck

[Anonymous No.4211786]

>>4211426
>Altered Beast

In the US, the Genesis port was one of the best selling games for the system.

[Anonymous No.4211789]

>>4211595
goof troop is a good game. played the fuck out of that with my cousin like 15 years ago

[Anonymous No.4211790]

>>4211426
>>4211786
yea this. altered beast and sonic were the only 2 games my aunt had. i remember those sega mini plug amd plays had it too

[Anonymous No.4211793]

>>4211774
double teamed

[Anonymous No.4211796]

>>4211790
To be fair, it was apparently a pack-in game so a lot of sales were probably due to that, but nevertheless I think that would keep it from being overlooked and would similarly mean that a lot of Genesis owners likely have some memory of it. I'd either forgotten or was never aware that it was a pack-in title until I looked it up.

Maybe people thought it was shitty back then, I don't really know. My first exposure to it as a kid was in a hotel arcade in the mid to late 90s - I thought it was an awesome game, honestly.

[Anonymous No.4211807]

>>4211793
SMOL

[Anonymous No.4211810]

>>4211308
I don't think it is bad to be an idea, anon.

[Anonymous No.4211823]

>>4211793
6_Foot_vs_5_Foot_10.jpg

[Anonymous No.4211860]

>>4211387
Very much this.
Although I have to say that a lot of the hype around this game is partially the fault of the old school reseller scum who almost always painted it as some rare mystical RPG that "could have changed games forever if we'd only given it a chance" or "was so rare, almost no one got a chance to buy it when it first came out."

[Anonymous No.4211864]

>>4211595
Yeah, what >>4211789 said. It's not that those games suddenly become unplayable because they're more well known after it and in some cases it might make more people try them out, which in turn gives them higher chances to be able to still discuss them at places like this. Hell, that's pretty much what happened to Umihara Kawase and I'm glad I found out about it even though I never heard of it back in the 90s.

The problem is that it also means there'll be more insufferable and ignorant "retro gaymerz" who simply go out and collect that shit just because someone else told them they should get it and not because it might be interesting for them.

[Anonymous No.4211947]

>>4211308
It got a big push right when it came out. I rented it because Nintendo Power made it look awesome.
I had three friends spend the night so we could play it. None of us liked it.

[Anonymous No.4211952]

>>4211426
Altered BEast was a hit and is still fun. Why mention it?

[Anonymous No.4211960]

>>4210907
>the king's field and shadow tower games
Even after Soulsborne hit it big I don't think that King's Field ever penetrated the public consciousness. They're easy to pass over thanks to the clunky gameplay and style.

And as much as I love Shadow Tower to death good luck finding somebody who has heard of it, let alone played it.

[Anonymous No.4211968]

EVO on snes.

[Anonymous No.4212001]

>>4211786
>>4211790
>>4211952
not him but it was terrible even back then, it only sold because it was one of the few games released at launch and a lot of the time it was bundled with the system (in the uk anyway).

Game was fucking awful, we laughed at it even as kids.

t. oldfag

[Anonymous No.4212009]

Street fighter ex alpha
I was surprised when people cheered for skullomania

[Anonymous No.4212012]

My wife's son bought me a retron and we just love it! - Metal Jesus

[Anonymous No.4212040]

>>4211793
he looks like a tranny

[Anonymous No.4212063]

>>4211968
This.

[Anonymous No.4212070]

Earthbound
Street Fighter ex+ alpha
MegaMan legend games

Megaman x4 to an extent. It was somewhat popular when released, but many say it's the best of the series now.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4212078]

>>4212040
Very few trannies have facial hair, Anon. He just looks like a standard "beardo"/

[Anonymous No.4212305]

>>4211793
Has he ever had a full beard? It would do wonders for his jawline.

[Anonymous No.4212321]

What went wrong?

[Anonymous No.4212327]

>>4211308
I too had the big box back in the day...had the scratch and sniff players guide....

I enjoyed the game I play it every few years when I forget...the last time was over 5 years. I enjoy it. It is not the be all / end all. The battle system was rudimentary. The story and the antics that happen are hilarious. In a way it deserves the accolades, but not for gameplay.

[Anonymous No.4212337]

>>4211786
That's because it was a pack in. Altered Beast was the first 16 bit game I even saw (ditched a chick's bday party to hang out with her brother who got a Genesis on launch day because they were rich). Even then, by the end of the day I was pretty underwhelmed with it.

[Anonymous No.4212353]

>>4212321
Time shreds us all

[Anonymous No.4212395]

>>4212001
But the game is still fun. It's not a meme. A great arcade port that was showcased the System before Sonic. I loved playing that one.

[Anonymous No.4212404]

>>4212321
YouTube was created

[Anonymous No.4212405]

>>4212395
It's a terrible arcade port of an already bad game

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4212456]

>>4212405
>>4212001
I pumped lots of quarters into the arcade version and although it wasn't exactly a selling point I was stoked that it was the pack in when Genesis was released. It was an early "edgy" game that very accurately represented the image Sega successfully cultivated for Genesis.

It's a single plane 2D beat-em-up, it heavily leaned on digitized speech as an attraction feature, anthro chacters etc. It didn't "age well" but not aging well is the opposite of the topic of this thread.

[Anonymous No.4212630]

>Mega Man Legends
>Croc
>Crash Team Racing

[Anonymous No.4212673]

>>4212456
I still thought it was shit from the first time I played it. But beat em ups are to me one of the dullest kinds of games there are so I'm biased.

[Anonymous No.4213103]

>>4210902
I fucking hate this faggot so much. Grease ball manchild.

[Anonymous No.4213115]

>>4212321
hot

[Anonymous No.4213237]

Mega Man Legends 1 & 2 are a big one.

They were not popular at all when released and stayed niche for a long time. It's only been in the last decade or so that people have been saying it's good. (Ala Earthbound)

[Anonymous No.4213261]

>>4211057
I think his goatee makes him look kinda bad. But his videos are enjoyable and he's doing what he loves. I can't hate the guy.

[Anonymous No.4213274]

>>4212321
aging badly

[Anonymous No.4213282]

>>4210928
Well yeah, why else would they be rare? I find it kind of funny that people buy some modern shit games because they think they'll be rare in the future because no one is actually buying them.

>so many people bought Devil's Third on Wii U for exactly this reason that NoA did a second print run of the game

[Anonymous No.4213358]

>>4211595
>>4211789
Goof Troop was a fucking Disney game based on an incredibly popular show at the time. It was the game I went with the first time we rented a SNES, and that was specifically because I was a fan of both the show and Disney games in general (had played Duck Tales and Rescue Rangers before). Those games were not ignored.

[Anonymous No.4213430]

>>4210902
Chrono Cross went from being underrated to overrated in a decade.

[Anonymous No.4213452]

>>4211308
this is because of super smash bros
if it wasnt for that, the earthbound/mother series wouldn't be that popular

[Anonymous No.4213464]

>>4213430

Cross was never underrated, wtf are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.4213528]

>>4213464
It wasn't popular in PAL territories. Legend of Dragoon didn't sell well in PAL either.

[Anonymous No.4213531]

>>4213528
Because it's terrible.

[Anonymous No.4213536]

>>4213430

Uhh

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/chrono-cross-review/1900-2545933/

[Anonymous No.4213541]

>>4211426
Turrican was crazy popular, if you lived in Europe

In the USA, no one likes 1 and 2, and only cares about Mega Turrican

[Anonymous No.4213543]

Not a video game, but the Swords of Fury pinball machine. It was hated in the 80s, even by Williams themselves. But the recent lionman meme has tricked people into thinking it's somehow not a shitty machine.

[Anonymous No.4213581]

>>4213543
>It was hated in the 80s, even by Williams themselves.

Citation? Swords of Fury is an excellent game. Very creative asymmetrical layout with plenty of shots on both sides. Four different "advancing value" features (Avenger, Lionman, Ogre's Alley, Magic), and a clever mini playfield that encourages precise aiming and is also used for the jackpot.

[Anonymous No.4213591]

Back in the day Ninja masters was considered the worst fighting game on the neogeo.
I was shocked how good it wss when i first played it years later. Lesson learned, fuck game journalists.

[Anonymous No.4213609]

>>4213358
>>4211789
Boy your jimmies sure get rustled easily. OP asked about games that were bad OR ignored back in the day. The Goof Troop game definitely flew under the radar.

[Anonymous No.4213626]

Majuu Ou on SNES was a very obscure game before YouTube happened.

[Anonymous No.4213667]

>>4211021

Really? Tell me about it.

[Anonymous No.4213692]

>>4213536
>https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/chrono-cross-review/1900-2545933/
Man I remember reading that issue back in the day and being pissed because they gave CC a better score than FF9, and FF9 is the clearly superior game.

That said I still love Chrono Cross to death.

[Anonymous No.4213796]

>>4210902
This still puzzles me. It wasn't a great game in 94 and its not a great game now, but for reasons I may never comprehend this game got memed so hard its price is now several hundred dollars despite being average at best.

[Anonymous No.4213817]

>>4213796
dude JonTron lmao

But in all seriousness, I wonder what kinds of people run out to buy these random old games after some eceleb talks about them. Are they hipster bandwagoners eager to fit in? People afraid that the price of the game will spike so they buy it "just in case?" People who meant to buy it long ago but never did finally deciding that now is the time... before it's too late? Speculators who hope to drive up the price and have a resell opportunity so they can profit off of the people from the other groups? All of the above? I guess I just don't see the appeal in paying hundreds if not a thousand dollars on some mass-produced retail game. If you're going to throw down the big bucks, why not get something more unique. Is it even that rare of a game? Pricecharting seems to show pretty regular sales of complete copies.

[Anonymous No.4213868]

>>4213581
There's an interview with Steve Ritchie out there. He said the team called it "dick swords" because of how bad it was. And no, it's a horrible game. Absolutely zero flow and no good shots.

[Anonymous No.4213945]

>>4210912
CDi's been meme status since at least the reveal of Wind Waker.
Superman 64 was far from ignored when it was released. People wanted that dev team burned to the ground when that came out.

I'm curious when Cheatamen became meme status. The earliest I heard of it was when it was used for that mario parody game.

[Anonymous No.4213954]

>>4211308

Fucking this. No one talked about RPGs until FF7 arrived, and definitely not memebound.

[Anonymous No.4213961]

>>4213954
Super mario RPG was probably the first big push. Not that that makes it any better.

[Anonymous No.4214050]

>>4211589

>Plok

This one is due for a price increase. It's only $15-20 (and even that is higher than it deserves), but the whole "it was almost a Nintendo game" angle is too good for a youtuber to pass up.

[Anonymous No.4214065]

>>4213954

I dunno. Chrono Trigger was always pretty popular from what I remember

[Anonymous No.4214172]

So what is your opinion on this guy?

[Anonymous No.4214180]

>>4214172
he needs to start reviewing more bible games desu

[Anonymous No.4214271]

>>4211403

Alien soldier basically didn't even have a release in the west.

[Anonymous No.4214279]

>>4213961
>no one talked about FInal Fantasy, Dragon Warrior, Chrono Trigger, Phantasy Star, etc, etc

Who the fuck did you hang out with as a kid? This shit was all the rage.

[Anonymous No.4214284]

>>4214279
>Betrayal at Krondor
>fucking ULTIMA
>BALDUR'S GATE
>Fallout 1/2
>Lunar
>Planescape: Torment

Seriously, the 90's had tons of amazing RPGs that were popular and well received.

[Anonymous No.4214285]

>>4210902
BUBSY

[Anonymous No.4214306]

>>4213237
But megaman legends actually are good games.

[Anonymous No.4215048]

>>4211779
I didn't care for the genny game but the arcade game is fun and funny.

>>4212009
They're all either salty capcom fans or minions of shocker

>>4212337
To be fair, the game basically exists only to show how close a console port could be graphically to an arcade original. And even then we got plenty of underwhelming ports like outrun.

>>4213237
That's probably why they're so damn expensive now

>>4213452
This, smash is the reason that so many know that mother exists.

>>4213868
That's surprising, I'm no expert but I think it's pretty cool. Though I can see why they would criticize the flow. Also since when is lion man a meme?

>>4213945
I remember 10 years ago or so, the song became really popular

[Anonymous No.4215059]

>>4215048
>Also since when is lion man a meme?
It's been a meme for like 3 years. There was a thread on pinside that hit like 10k posts.

[Anonymous No.4215075]

>>4210912
The first 3 games on that list were big deals from day one.

[Anonymous No.4215079]

>>4214172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvd-73clV6E

YOU BROKE MY GAMECUBE HACKERMAN Q_Q

[Anonymous No.4215125]

>>4215079
what a fucking retarded manchild. why the fuck do retards keep hdmi modding their retro consoles?
>drunk slut knocked over the shitcube
kek it wasnt even the adapter that killed it.
>iphone
that explains it.

[Anonymous No.4215202]

>>4215079
I don't see the big deal if his gamecube breaks, he probably has like 5 more that he's hoarding anyway

[Anonymous No.4215447]

>>4214284

Those are all PC not console, and not from the 16 bit era which is what that guy is talking about..

[Anonymous No.4215451]

>>4214279

It really wasn't. SNES scene in the U.S was overwhelmingly Nintendo IP, platformers, and some arcade games, mostly MK and SF.

[Anonymous No.4215496]

>>4215451
FF6 had ads all over the place, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4215893]

>>4214306
Yeah, but people ignored the game when it was released. I remember seeing a lot of those games in bargain bins for 10-20 euros.
I bought Toshinden 4 instead.

[Anonymous No.4215926]

>>4215496

Literally where?

[Anonymous No.4215930]

>>4215926
The numerous game mags of the time for starters.

And there were far more commercials then what we see now on TV.

The internet didn't exist back then so companies had to.

Not to mention stores like Walmart having the video demos running in the game departments.

[Anonymous No.4215938]

>>4210914
I remember playing it on arcade but forgot it till I got a mame machine runing, same thing with Extermination

[Anonymous No.4215953]

>>4213817
>I didn't own a genesis growing up, was a nintendo kid. I once considered trying to get a few genesis games but after seeing the prices for some of the games that I had thought were interesting years ago, I decided to emulate instead.

[Anonymous No.4215998]

>>4210902

Chrono Trigger.

>Kicking it on my playstation.
>notice my step brother has it.
>Don't care, playstation has better graphics/games.

Didn't touch that piece of shit till 10 years later. Liked it, but wasn't overwhelmed. It's just the product that was able to draw from and learn from every game that came before it on the SNES. Was more impressed with SoM and FF3/6- they did it first and better. The same is true of Phantasy Star 4- lots of hype, solid execution, but came so late on the genesis that it wasn't satiating the way that PS 2 or 3 was. I was so pissed off at how short and easy PS4 was- I played through it 3 or 4 times just to feel like I got my money's worth.

You young fags will never understand.

[Anonymous No.4216169]

>>4210902
Ff12, ff8

[Anonymous No.4216583]

>>4215998
>frogposter calling others young fags
Whatever floats your boat.

[Anonymous No.4216586]

>>4210902
This dude is desperately trying to look vaguely attractive -- it's hilarious

also based on the question for this thread it's probably the dude himself trying to get ideas for youtube vids

[Anonymous No.4217046]

>people recognize a game as being good
>HURR MEME GAME ITS SHIT DURR

How much of an autistic retard do you have to be to think this?

[Anonymous No.4217070]

>>4215998
Is...is this a Magic Emperor Ghaleon version of pepe?

[Anonymous No.4217125]

>>4210912
Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde

[Anonymous No.4217186]

>>4215926
>>4215930
I have to say, I saw many magazine ads for FF3/6 but nothing ever on TV. FFVII was the first rpg I ever saw with a TV spot and I remember it seeming like a huge deal.

[Anonymous No.4217483]

>>4217186
Yeah, I saw lots of Nintendo power and game store advertisements for all the usual snes jrpgs, but FF7 was when they actually advertised bigtime, with commercials and t-shirts and shit.

[Anonymous No.4217485]

>>4217125
It isn't even that bad of a game, most people just hate on it because of how hard AVGN meme on it.

[Anonymous No.4217560]

>>4217485
It IS that bad a game, it's just that would get zero attention today if it weren't for AVGN.

[Anonymous No.4217764]

>>4217560
I'm not saying its AMAZING GOOD GREAT GAME, but it doesn't deserve all the hate game gets. It's mediocre at best but not one of the worst games in the world, because there are tons of worst games out there.

[Anonymous No.4217784]

>>4217764
Tonic Trouble is a mediocre games.
Puss n' Boots in a mediocre game.
Quest 64 is a mediocre game.

Dr. J & Mr. H is legitimately bad.

But the thing is the NES has tons of bad games just like it. In an alternate timeline that could have been about NES Superman that James made that early AVGN on, and if so then Superman would be the memed game that everyone gawked at instead, but even that case it wouldn't take away from the fact that Superman on NES is also a legitimately bad game.

[Anonymous No.4217913]

>>4210902
Terranigma

[Anonymous No.4218617]

>>4211220
The Japanese version of this game is great.

First of all, it's way more balanced and fair, making it a better game. No bullshit 1-hit deaths in the driving stages or damage sponge enemies.

Secondly, the Japanese title is MAD CITY, which is fucking rad.

https://youtu.be/KjZISP0_ho8

[Anonymous No.4219072]

Battletoads.

[Anonymous No.4219296]

>>4217483
Yeah I gotta say, the first time I saw someone wearing a fucking Final Fantasy shirt (and it wasn't even at a con) broke my brain a little.

I confess I had super cheesy wall scrolls of the huge render of Midgar, Cloud on his bike and Aerith on my dorm room walls.

[Anonymous No.4219304]

>>4210902
> Hidden gems
> Literally everyone knows about it.

God I hate this fuck and how he pretends to be ignorant so his fat friend can read off a wikipedia page.

[Anonymous No.4219327]

>>4214285
I still can't fucking believe this is a thing. What's next? A new Cheetahmen game?

Memes were a mistake.

[Anonymous No.4219427]

>>4219304
>pretends to be ignorant
>pretends

[Anonymous No.4219465]

>>4219327
>What's next? A new Cheetahmen game?
don't underestimate the autism of furfags

[Anonymous No.4219525]

>>4213954
>No one talked about RPGs until FF7 arrived

You hung with a dumb crowd apparently.

[Anonymous No.4219527]

>>4211595
Shatterhand was popular. Pretty much any game with a spread in Nintendo Power can't really be unknown.

[Anonymous No.4219532]

>>4219427
No I mean when he's like 'Uh so tell me what's a famicom?' type of shit to give the fat one an inroad. It's so fucking cringy.

[Anonymous No.4219551]

>>4219532
whos his fat friend? are you referring to the IMORTAL JOHN HAND COCK